Trustability/Riskiness; Curious

BlackWaistDown · Jun 18, 2024

hey all, about to start a calm small cycle.

Been lifting for a few years, just hit 21 and ready to take it a step further. Reached great stats pre-gear: 145B/205S

Thinking of using UGLOZ. How risky is the delivery process? Is it stealth packaged? What measures do you guys take? Package will be sent to a share home.

Lastly, is there anything any of you feel I need to know about the process/any insider knowledge I should be aware of? Thank you so much in advance. xx

s.gentz · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
Been lifting for a few years, just hit 21 and ready to take it a step further. Reached great stats pre-gear: 145B/205S

You need to lift natural for a lot longer. What are your stats? I'm venturing to guess your not even benching close to your bodyweight?
You are nowhere near your natural limits and ready/needing to use gear.

BlackWaistDown · Jun 18, 2024

s.gentz said:
You need to lift natural for a lot longer. What are your stats? I'm venturing to guess your not even benching close to your bodyweight?
You are nowhere near your natural limits and ready/needing to use gear.

Hello, I appreciate the reply.

Stats as in bw? My bench is 145kg, squat is 205kg. Bodyweight is 85kg. Perhaps how I listed my stats it looked like it was lbs instead of kgs? That's my fault.

Thank you for the caution, genuinely very kind.

s.gentz · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
Hello, I appreciate the reply.

Stats as in bw? My bench is 145kg, squat is 205kg. Bodyweight is 85kg. Perhaps how I listed my stats it looked like it was lbs instead of kgs? That's my fault.

Thank you for the caution, genuinely very kind.

Ok this makes more sense. You still are very young and you really should wait until your body and brain are fully developed in your late 20's before you start messing with gear. You also don't want to risk your HPTA this young.

BlackWaistDown · Jun 18, 2024

s.gentz said:
Ok this makes more sense. You still are very young and you really should wait until your body and brain are fully developed in your late 20's before you start messing with gear. You also don't want to risk your HPTA this young.

Thank you for the advice--you really think so? I have this weird feeling where I am racing against time. If I use it too late in my life, it would be me putting aside the opportunities I had. I have a genuine passion for bodybuilding, it was never for the sake of external validation but I see it more as an art form from my body.

s.gentz · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
Thank you for the advice--you really think so? I have this weird feeling where I am racing against time. If I use it too late in my life, it would be me putting aside the opportunities I had. I have a genuine passion for bodybuilding, it was never for the sake of external validation but I see it more as an art form from my body.

This is a decision you will have to make for yourself but we want to make sure you have all the info. Using this early in life def has implications on your further development.
How tall are you? Can you post a pic?

BlackWaistDown · Jun 18, 2024

s.gentz said:
This is a decision you will have to make for yourself but we want to make sure you have all the info. Using this early in life def has implications on your further development.
How tall are you? Can you post a pic?

I am 176cm tall, pic attached:

s.gentz · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
I am 176cm tall, pic attached:

Your a pretty big guy. You obviously have good genetics.
It's still a decision i wouldn't take lightly. As far as a source in Oz i would check out the Aussie forums on this site or maybe @Pigsy ca steer you in the right direction.

BlackWaistDown · Jun 18, 2024

s.gentz said:
Your a pretty big guy. You obviously have good genetics.
It's still a decision i wouldn't take lightly. As far as a source in Oz i would check out the Aussie forums on this site or maybe @Pigsy ca steer you in the right direction.

Thank you so much for the compliment, but more so for the advice.

I'll be sure to both take all necessary precautions and fully understand its implications.

Should I contact Pigsy directly or wait for a response from him? Cheers.

dylangemelli · Jun 18, 2024

you are making a massive and i mean massive mistake.. ive been doing this well over 15 years, coaching everyone from professional bodybuilders to every day people... thousands upon thousands have i dealt with and NOTHING comes good from using steroids at your age... long term problems, ruining your quality of life and more than likely shortening your lifespan as well... its a horrible idea.. you do you, noone here is your dad and i am only reaching out one time each to people that are intent on ruining their lives... i wish you nothing but the best but you need to take a lot longer to learn and understand the ramifications of this

The problems with individuals that had not yet attained full physio-sexual development, is that that anabolic compounds are acting 9on locations within the central nervous system that are still under development. That is, that many receptors that are activated by Testosterone are STILL performing developmental functions, and you are stimulating them before they had the chance to fully create a working framework of hormonal balance that would sustain you for the rest of your adult life.

good luck with everything

s.gentz · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
Should I contact Pigsy directly or wait for a response from him?

I'm sure he will respond.

Take @dylangemelli comment seriously.

BlackWaistDown · Jun 18, 2024

dylangemelli said:
you are making a massive and i mean massive mistake.. ive been doing this well over 15 years, coaching everyone from professional bodybuilders to every day people... thousands upon thousands have i dealt with and NOTHING comes good from using steroids at your age... long term problems, ruining your quality of life and more than likely shortening your lifespan as well... its a horrible idea.. you do you, noone here is your dad and i am only reaching out one time each to people that are intent on ruining their lives... i wish you nothing but the best but you need to take a lot longer to learn and understand the ramifications of this

The problems with individuals that had not yet attained full physio-sexual development, is that that anabolic compounds are acting 9on locations within the central nervous system that are still under development. That is, that many receptors that are activated by Testosterone are STILL performing developmental functions, and you are stimulating them before they had the chance to fully create a working framework of hormonal balance that would sustain you for the rest of your adult life.

good luck with everything

I am not at all aware of this, thank you so much for this insight. I come from a place where steroid use is rampant and the common age for its use is around 17s--this is also due to the very often teenage parents being the same age (17), so they would feel justified to hop on after having kids.

I'll take this very much into account--it's clear I haven't dwelled into it as deep as I thought I had.

If it's okay to ask: at what age would you say is 'okay' to consider gear?

stevesmi · Jun 18, 2024

i always tell people close to me to wait until you are in your late 20's to use anabolic steroids.

bodybuilding doesn't have to be about PED use. what is fascinating to think about are humans have been on this planet for 2.5M years and our mammal ancestors have been on this planet for millions of years. yet we only came up with playing and extracting hormones during the 50's so it hasn't even been 80 years. we have literally survived so much shit over the course of our existance without needing steroids. your ancestors, unless you are descended from royalty, likely had to farm or work hard manual jobs to put food on the table. they did this without steroid use.

just giving you some perspective

also if you want to use steroids then i say go for it, the worse thing is preaching to people.. when you preach preach preach people will want to do the opposite. but when you educate them properly they will listen. so one of the things to think about is how AAS damage your HPTA in many ways permanently.

now if you want to pursue bodybuilding as a career and monetize it and you don't care if you fry your nuts forever then go for it. i didn't touch steroids till i was 28/29 so it isn't just me talking out of my ass here

Eddie Haskell · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
hey all, about to start a calm small cycle.

Been lifting for a few years, just hit 21 and ready to take it a step further. Reached great stats pre-gear: 145B/205S

Thinking of using UGLOZ. How risky is the delivery process? Is it stealth packaged? What measures do you guys take? Package will be sent to a share home.

Lastly, is there anything any of you feel I need to know about the process/any insider knowledge I should be aware of? Thank you so much in advance. xx

BlackWaistDown said:
Thank you for the advice--you really think so? I have this weird feeling where I am racing against time. If I use it too late in my life, it would be me putting aside the opportunities I had. I have a genuine passion for bodybuilding, it was never for the sake of external validation but I see it more as an art form from my body.

BlackWaistDown said:
I am 176cm tall, pic attached:

dylangemelli · Jun 18, 2024

BlackWaistDown said:
I am not at all aware of this, thank you so much for this insight. I come from a place where steroid use is rampant and the common age for its use is around 17s--this is also due to the very often teenage parents being the same age (17), so they would feel justified to hop on after having kids.

I'll take this very much into account--it's clear I haven't dwelled into it as deep as I thought I had.

If it's okay to ask: at what age would you say is 'okay' to consider gear?

when you are reaching your full genetic potential, essentially once you are done growing and truly becoming a man so to speak.. not that you are not now , so dont mix words but you are a young man now, not even close to your full growth potential and messing with hormones when you are still developing, which you are still in early stages of, will have long term repercussions.. like i said, im noones dad and certainly do not tell people what they can and cannot do but im a realist, and i never tell people what they just want to hear.. i tell them what they need to hear, the cold realities of things.. all things in life has cause and effect.. some positive, some negative.. some far far worse than others.. THIS particular topic, rest assured, can be very very touchy because people want to be blind to the actual reality.. IVE LIVED IT for this long seeing client after client after client that suffers and lives in regret... its a constant and a major major life altering mistake.. you do you, you do what you want with your life but always be prepared to deal with and accept consequences of decisions made

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