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It's likey if there's a predisposition.
Now I just need to figure out how low a dose she could use of either deca or NPP. She wants to try out the NPP for neck and shoulder pain. It sure worked well for me.
 
Just double checked mate and according to Dr Steve Howell, nandrolone doesn't seem to have ssame affect on women via progesterone receptor and there's a paradoxical effect on men.
Now I just need to figure out how low a dose she could use of either deca or NPP. She wants to try out the NPP for neck and shoulder pain. It sure worked well for me.
 
Just double checked mate and according to Dr Steve Howell, nandrolone doesn't seem to have ssame affect on women via progesterone receptor and there's a paradoxical effect on men.
@Jimboslice117 "paradoxical" effect? that sounds like broscience honestly :) ho hard feelings

@RoidRage69 has good points here on the dose, it has to be very low
 
I took those words from Dr Scot Howell, leader of androgen toxicity behind maybe one other man. Little on the bro side but it's strange how antagonising the progesterone receptor in men has that affect but not in women. In fact women's mood improve as well as mental well-being.
@Jimboslice117 "paradoxical" effect? that sounds like broscience honestly :) ho hard feelings

@RoidRage69 has good points here on the dose, it has to be very low
 
I took those words from Dr Scot Howell, leader of androgen toxicity behind maybe one other man. Little on the bro side but it's strange how antagonising the progesterone receptor in men has that affect but not in women. In fact women's mood improve as well as mental well-being.
@Jimboslice117 I'm not sure I would call anyone an expert for NPP, would like to see his actual study on this.
 
On the neuro toxic effects?
I'm saying NPP hasnt really been studied, vs something like nandrolone decanoate has some studies out there. Esters do matter, otherwise all pain killers and steroids would be the same.
 
Generally speaking, esters don't do a whole bunch for side effects. The hormone with an ester attached is inert and can't do anything or bind to anything until the ester is cleaved when it reaches the blood serum. Deca, npp, ends up as nadrolone and then it can exert its effects on AR and PR etc. Before that it's just a pro drug.
I'm saying NPP hasnt really been studied, vs something like nandrolone decanoate has some studies out there. Esters do matter, otherwise all pain killers and steroids would be the same.
 
Run npp if it helps
 
Generally speaking, esters don't do a whole bunch for side effects. The hormone with an ester attached is inert and can't do anything or bind to anything until the ester is cleaved when it reaches the blood serum. Deca, npp, ends up as nadrolone and then it can exert its effects on AR and PR etc. Before that it's just a pro drug.
@Jimboslice117 share a few human NPP studies he's referring to with us please
I'm going to guess what he's saying is just hallucinations
 
UPDATE

I've been very sick since the 21st. Lung infection with little help from the GP despite my yearly history of lung infection and pneumonia. I'm a chronic asthmatic and go down hard with anything lung related. Wife had it for 24hrs , didnt bat an eye and I'm bed ridden for a week. It seems every time I get ready for some self improvement I get smacked down hahaha. Obviously haven't started the log, zero point right now. Tried some push-ups today and got 11 and coughing fit took over. I'm going to need a couple weeks to get sorted. Not doing this to Alpha or myself halfed arsed. Lost weight and will want to gain that before starting so as not to skew the results. Thanks for your patience and I'll get back to guys who quoted me.
 
UPDATE

I've been very sick since the 21st. Lung infection with little help from the GP despite my yearly history of lung infection and pneumonia. I'm a chronic asthmatic and go down hard with anything lung related. Wife had it for 24hrs , didnt bat an eye and I'm bed ridden for a week. It seems every time I get ready for some self improvement I get smacked down hahaha. Obviously haven't started the log, zero point right now. Tried some push-ups today and got 11 and coughing fit took over. I'm going to need a couple weeks to get sorted. Not doing this to Alpha or myself halfed arsed. Lost weight and will want to gain that before starting so as not to skew the results. Thanks for your patience and I'll get back to guys who quoted me.
@Jimboslice117 get well and come back to us
drink a lot of vitamin C and D and rest bro :)
 
Finally back to feeling well after 4 weeks of viral infection bouncing around lungs and nasal and ears. Pretty much gained all the fat that I had lost before this growing phase. Spent last 2 weeks gaining back lost tissue and strength. I'm not going to bother trying to loose the fat again because the log needs to start. Started last week at 240mg test, 60mg Masteron. Will titrate as needed.

Starting weight: 96.5kg, well fed. Photos to come of starting point.

Training: PPL. Will be uploaded hopefully once weekly to show you progression.
Plenty of old injuries to train around and will slowly titrate volume as food comes up.

Nutrition: 3000cals, 220ish protien. Carbs will be the primary focus as food moves up over time.

Cardio: nothing programed as of yet. Just 8k steps a day is always the goal.

Duration will be dependent on how I'm feeling and blood work. I very rarely look at testosterone levels but rather look at health markers but if you want to see my testosterone readings on the dose I'm on happy to do so. I'm a believer in slow and steady. Gaining tissue takes time doing things right for months on end so this won't be some 12 week blast lol. Not 1 client of mine has ever done less than 20 weeks of a growing phase. I may do a deload here and there, again based on feel. No I don't think you need to deload every 4 weeks. I may pull calories during deloads however to wash off some fat.
 
Finally back to feeling well after 4 weeks of viral infection bouncing around lungs and nasal and ears. Pretty much gained all the fat that I had lost before this growing phase. Spent last 2 weeks gaining back lost tissue and strength. I'm not going to bother trying to loose the fat again because the log needs to start. Started last week at 240mg test, 60mg Masteron. Will titrate as needed.

Starting weight: 96.5kg, well fed. Photos to come of starting point.

Training: PPL. Will be uploaded hopefully once weekly to show you progression.
Plenty of old injuries to train around and will slowly titrate volume as food comes up.

Nutrition: 3000cals, 220ish protien. Carbs will be the primary focus as food moves up over time.

Cardio: nothing programed as of yet. Just 8k steps a day is always the goal.

Duration will be dependent on how I'm feeling and blood work. I very rarely look at testosterone levels but rather look at health markers but if you want to see my testosterone readings on the dose I'm on happy to do so. I'm a believer in slow and steady. Gaining tissue takes time doing things right for months on end so this won't be some 12 week blast lol. Not 1 client of mine has ever done less than 20 weeks of a growing phase. I may do a deload here and there, again based on feel. No I don't think you need to deload every 4 weeks. I may pull calories during deloads however to wash off some fat.
@Jimboslice117 welcome back to the EVO family bro :)
you're doing it, perfect lets see those base photos bro we waiting

id like to see training more too
 
that sucks you got sick but it's okay body memory is real
 
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