Approved Log Testosterone Masteron Cycle Log - Growing Phase

[Jimboslice117]

Privleged to have Alpha allow me to use his products. Will do my best to leave honest feedback.

Introduction -
17 years training, large part natural, now enhanced but never have used much. Just enough to get the jib done. My focus has been on coaching but I'll be spending more time on focusing on my physique for the next 12 months now that time managementis better. Came off a fat loss phase to give me some run way into this growing phases and was using 175mg test/20mg mast. Pics will be provided once I get my phone back from being fixed. They're about 4 weeks old and I'm slightly leaner now then in the photos. Training has been on maintenance volume for more than a year, 4-6 sets a week per bodypart so im going to be sensitive to training for sure. Training will be titrated up slowly, dont want an injury out the gate. Calories atm are about 2500. Food will be moving up each week to a peak load according to scales weight. Androgen load will begin at 285mg/week and titrated up when needed. Starting at 225mg test and 60mg Masteron and 20mg pre workout on my weaker body part, legs to drive a little more tissue accrual on those days. Why so low? Because I've never needed much according to my needs. I'm a coach, not a good bodybuilder. Other drugs at work are Telmisartan (year round as it should be regardless of blood pressure), metformin 500mg, 8IU of humalog split into pre and post with the appropriate amount of carbs. No AI used as I can't justify the side effects. Androgens will be manipulated for androgen to estrogen ratio, want e2 to be as high as I can tolerate for the extra help growing as it's hypertrophic pathway is well worth using. Don't need an AI messing that up for me. None of my clients use them ever.

Goals - add tissue, stay healthy and keep connective tissue in good order. Time frame will be probably be about 6 months of use before I pull back into a short fatloss phase and go again into a push assuming blood work is looking good. The dose will be titrated up depending on how progress goes. The log here will be 4 months however I'll be going much longer than that and if anyone wants it continued, I shall.

Concerns - Have a herniated disk in lower back, sciatica pain daily, rotator cuff injury and torn subscap from baoting accident from years back. Training legs and back is difficult to say the least....very limited to exercises for chest, legs and back as you'll see in the log but I promise you I'll push for progress regardless and be an example of a broken dude getting it done. Will have my own coach along the way where required (I need it for my own adherence)

Training will be provided weekly along with diet, PEDs and whatever changes come along.

Will be starting on the 18th of June and will be doing a weekly dump rather than daily however I'll still engage daily where possible. Thanks for you consideration.

 

[AfterMidnight]

Looking forward to seeing how you go mate.
Using all of alphas oils on my current blast. No doubt you’ll be as happy as I am with them

 

[Pigsy]

Great to see your logging.be good see your progress on @AlphaLabs gear

 

[Coolguy]

Legs go brother look forward to following your log

 

[AlphaLabs]

I'm excited for this legend

 

[B3rnie]

Keen to see how you go with this mate.

 

[RoidRage69]

Have you considered using 150mg NPP to your cycle considering all your pains? It is definitely worth a shot. I am amazed at what it has done for me in my mid 50’s.

 

[Jimboslice117]

It's on the table mate. If I do I'll start at 50mg and see how that goes.

 

[Coolguy]

Have you considered using 150mg NPP to your cycle considering all your pains? It is definitely worth a shot. I am amazed at what it has done for me in my mid 50’s.

I love npp

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Privleged to have Alpha allow me to use his products. Will do my best to leave honest feedback.

Introduction -
17 years training, large part natural, now enhanced but never have used much. Just enough to get the jib done. My focus has been on coaching but I'll be spending more time on focusing on my physique for the next 12 months now that time managementis better. Came off a fat loss phase to give me some run way into this growing phases and was using 175mg test/20mg mast. Pics will be provided once I get my phone back from being fixed. They're about 4 weeks old and I'm slightly leaner now then in the photos. Training has been on maintenance volume for more than a year, 4-6 sets a week per bodypart so im going to be sensitive to training for sure. Training will be titrated up slowly, dont want an injury out the gate. Calories atm are about 2500. Food will be moving up each week to a peak load according to scales weight. Androgen load will begin at 285mg/week and titrated up when needed. Starting at 225mg test and 60mg Masteron and 20mg pre workout on my weaker body part, legs to drive a little more tissue accrual on those days. Why so low? Because I've never needed much according to my needs. I'm a coach, not a good bodybuilder. Other drugs at work are Telmisartan (year round as it should be regardless of blood pressure), metformin 500mg, 8IU of humalog split into pre and post with the appropriate amount of carbs. No AI used as I can't justify the side effects. Androgens will be manipulated for androgen to estrogen ratio, want e2 to be as high as I can tolerate for the extra help growing as it's hypertrophic pathway is well worth using. Don't need an AI messing that up for me. None of my clients use them ever.

Goals - add tissue, stay healthy and keep connective tissue in good order. Time frame will be probably be about 6 months of use before I pull back into a short fatloss phase and go again into a push assuming blood work is looking good. The dose will be titrated up depending on how progress goes. The log here will be 4 months however I'll be going much longer than that and if anyone wants it continued, I shall.

Concerns - Have a herniated disk in lower back, sciatica pain daily, rotator cuff injury and torn subscap from baoting accident from years back. Training legs and back is difficult to say the least....very limited to exercises for chest, legs and back as you'll see in the log but I promise you I'll push for progress regardless and be an example of a broken dude getting it done. Will have my own coach along the way where required (I need it for my own adherence)

Training will be provided weekly along with diet, PEDs and whatever changes come along.

Will be starting on the 18th of June and will be doing a weekly dump rather than daily however I'll still engage daily where possible. Thanks for you consideration.

@Jimboslice117 great start to a log, happy to see you share with the EVO family bro


looking forward to your diet and training

and please share pics of you face blurred so we can see your progress

concerns, with the herniated disk, you need some bpc there

 

[stevesmi]

i've dealth with disc issues for the past 10 years.

the only thing that has helped me was hot yoga. amazingly i took a break from it for 4 weeks and had a fishing trip where a shark about yanked me into the water and problem is back. i have found yoga and rest to be the ONLY help

 

[Jimboslice117]

@Jimboslice117 great start to a log, happy to see you share with the EVO family bro


looking forward to your diet and training

and please share pics of you face blurred so we can see your progress

concerns, with the herniated disk, you need some bpc there

Good idea. Bpc is something I've been meaning to explore. Clients swear by it for connective tissue problems but I can never really tell as nandrolone is always in play on some kind of level for them. For me, I'd be a good case study as I'd try and keep anything related to collagen synthesis out of the picture (apart from the Androgens)

 

[Jimboslice117]

i've dealth with disc issues for the past 10 years.

the only thing that has helped me was hot yoga. amazingly i took a break from it for 4 weeks and had a fishing trip where a shark about yanked me into the water and problem is back. i have found yoga and rest to be the ONLY help

Yeah mate a shark will will do it

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Good idea. Bpc is something I've been meaning to explore. Clients swear by it for connective tissue problems but I can never really tell as nandrolone is always in play on some kind of level for them. For me, I'd be a good case study as I'd try and keep anything related to collagen synthesis out of the picture (apart from the Androgens)

NPP and bpc good mix for joints lets do it

 

[RoidRage69]

I love npp

Me too. It’s my favorite steroid.

 

[RoidRage69]

NPP and bpc good mix for joints lets do it

Don’t forget hgh and igf-1 in the mix.

 

[Mobster]

NPP and bpc good mix for joints lets do it

NPP is temporary at best

 

[Coolguy]

NPP is temporary at best

Just never stop taking it

 

[e2]

if NPP works for you then use it
I'm glad that it works you deserve relief

 

[2Thick]

you could run NPP and cruise on it
you can do 100mgs NPP per week with 20mgs of proviron EOD

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

oh I did get relief personally from deca
but then when I stopped taking it my injuries came back more

 

[Wootoom]

even if it helps you still have to rest
the more you play with the injury the more you inflame it

 

[JasonPriest]

good luck on this log
we definitely want to hear your honest assessment on how much it helps

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro i like npp and deca
but use with tren !

 

[Quadsweep]

i can tell you npp from para pharma is on point
I've had many clients use it and it helped their joints

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[s.gentz]

Privleged to have Alpha allow me to use his products. Will do my best to leave honest feedback.

Introduction -
17 years training, large part natural, now enhanced but never have used much. Just enough to get the jib done. My focus has been on coaching but I'll be spending more time on focusing on my physique for the next 12 months now that time managementis better. Came off a fat loss phase to give me some run way into this growing phases and was using 175mg test/20mg mast. Pics will be provided once I get my phone back from being fixed. They're about 4 weeks old and I'm slightly leaner now then in the photos. Training has been on maintenance volume for more than a year, 4-6 sets a week per bodypart so im going to be sensitive to training for sure. Training will be titrated up slowly, dont want an injury out the gate. Calories atm are about 2500. Food will be moving up each week to a peak load according to scales weight. Androgen load will begin at 285mg/week and titrated up when needed. Starting at 225mg test and 60mg Masteron and 20mg pre workout on my weaker body part, legs to drive a little more tissue accrual on those days. Why so low? Because I've never needed much according to my needs. I'm a coach, not a good bodybuilder. Other drugs at work are Telmisartan (year round as it should be regardless of blood pressure), metformin 500mg, 8IU of humalog split into pre and post with the appropriate amount of carbs. No AI used as I can't justify the side effects. Androgens will be manipulated for androgen to estrogen ratio, want e2 to be as high as I can tolerate for the extra help growing as it's hypertrophic pathway is well worth using. Don't need an AI messing that up for me. None of my clients use them ever.

Goals - add tissue, stay healthy and keep connective tissue in good order. Time frame will be probably be about 6 months of use before I pull back into a short fatloss phase and go again into a push assuming blood work is looking good. The dose will be titrated up depending on how progress goes. The log here will be 4 months however I'll be going much longer than that and if anyone wants it continued, I shall.

Concerns - Have a herniated disk in lower back, sciatica pain daily, rotator cuff injury and torn subscap from baoting accident from years back. Training legs and back is difficult to say the least....very limited to exercises for chest, legs and back as you'll see in the log but I promise you I'll push for progress regardless and be an example of a broken dude getting it done. Will have my own coach along the way where required (I need it for my own adherence)

Training will be provided weekly along with diet, PEDs and whatever changes come along.

Will be starting on the 18th of June and will be doing a weekly dump rather than daily however I'll still engage daily where possible. Thanks for you consideration.

Why would you use masteron during a growing phase? Why not deca, EQ or Primo? Even DHB would be of more benefit.

 

[Ulter]

masteron might not be the best option
i agree with sgentz

 

[chesty]

I would go with equipoise personally
it's a very versatile steroid in mild

 

[ROIDDERS]

try masteron and tell us what you think
that's the whole point of this log

 

[ceo]

bros masteron make other steroids work better
but otherwise just a cosmetic steroid

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Looking forward to following along brother!

 

[Jimboslice117]

Interesting feedback here and will make for good conversation. First off my choice of masteron is really because all AAS acrete protien at about the same rate. Apart from Bill Llewellyn and other bros, not sure where the idea came from otherwise. Sure there may 5% difference. For example the community parrots the phrases tren is 5X more anabolic. We've never ever seen that happen in reality....nott even 2X. In fact the evidence says it's about as anabolic and less androgenic than testosterone hence why our grandmothers were prescribed it for oesteo under the name Parabolan. Bill Llewellyn said some stuff and it stuck i guess. If it were true, that means a man who made 10lb gain from 400mg off testosterone over a 15 week period could gain 50lbs off the equivalent dose of tren....it's never happened.....not even 2X...1.1X the amount sure, won't ague that. Sure maybe 1mg of tren yields more anabolic activity than 1mg of testosterone but once we're at working dose, the gap closes up significantly. Same for any other AAS. Also Masteron was patented by its manufacturer, Syntex, as a growth promoter in cattle to compete with trenbolone in the Agricultural market. Why would Syntex spend millions on a competitive medical and agricultural drug that didnt work? They wouldnt. And in the order of efficacy and safety, it goes testosterone, primobolan and than masteron. So im going with masteron. That's my thought out rationale.

Next, compound selection for myself and clients is based on safety profile. We all have a 20 week plan but not a 20 year plan. We don't start this and say "I'll stop when I'm 48"...no, we keep going until we're forced to stop via cardiac, renal or neuro injury. I'd rather be doing this for life and that means a life long PED exposure plan. That brings me to EQ....shown to be directly renal toxic. We all battle elevated blood pressure because of size and lifestyle and therefore put kidneys under stress....I'm not going to add to it with a compound which barely brings anything more to the table and brings extra risk. If my clients insist on using it AFTER we've gone through the evidence of toxicity, then I'm happy to let them. I'd rather have them informed. Nandrolone/synthetic progestins are a fine choice but seem to be the more neuro toxic....hence the anxiety, paranoia, aggression, mood swings, vivid dreams, depression & homoerotic thoughts from straight men using these...of course genetics play into ALL of the above stuff. Nandrolone is great though and has its place in the off season with great collagen synthesis and joint comfort as shown by the literature and obviously adds to tissue growth. Just wouldnt live on it. Situational only. If primobolan was Dorians staple along with testosterone and 150 tren in prep, I'm sure mast is fine. But we will see from my progress if it is indeed just a cosmetic drug or just as good for growth promotion.

 

[Jimboslice117]

I'll attach a study or 2 explaining my stance as it's not just observational evidence which counts but clinical too.





"In LABC, which exhibits a testosterone-dependent androgenic

response, the effects of Sub Cutaneous Trenbolone treatment was

nearly identical to that of Sub Cutaneous Testosterone. However,

n tissues containing 5AR-reductase such as the VP, the effect of

Trenbolone was much less than that seen with Testosterone"


see below attachment

 

[Jimboslice117]

Regarding tren being stronger

 

[Jimboslice117]

We know tren and other progestins are exert strong influence on the brain. Many have heard that but they dont understand how strong a Progestin it is. Its this that causes most of Trenbolones Problems from Brain Health to Sweats
to Homoerotic Motivation ie Gay Fantasies. Thus is on top of neuro toxicity it carries.

 

[RoidRage69]

So you’re saying that if my goal is to see my wife eat another chick out the odds are in my favor if she is using Tren or deca?

 

[Jimboslice117]

So you’re saying that if my goal is to see my wife eat another chick out the odds are in my favor if she is using Tren or deca?

 

[average918]

Seen you around these forums quite a bit brother your a very knowledgeable guy on a range of health and fitness topics and I have learnt from quite a few of your posts.

Solid start to the log bro will be following along and keen to see what you’re going to achieve bro

 

[Jimboslice117]

It's likey if there's a predisposition.

So you’re saying that if my goal is to see my wife eat another chick out the odds are in my favor if she is using Tren or deca?

 

[RoidRage69]

It's likey if there's a predisposition.

Now I just need to figure out how low a dose she could use of either deca or NPP. She wants to try out the NPP for neck and shoulder pain. It sure worked well for me.

 

[Gene_Lifts]

Can't wait to see your progress

 

[Jimboslice117]

Just double checked mate and according to Dr Steve Howell, nandrolone doesn't seem to have ssame affect on women via progesterone receptor and there's a paradoxical effect on men.

Now I just need to figure out how low a dose she could use of either deca or NPP. She wants to try out the NPP for neck and shoulder pain. It sure worked well for me.

 

[ballin2504]

You should do great

 

[LevButlerov]

Just double checked mate and according to Dr Steve Howell, nandrolone doesn't seem to have ssame affect on women via progesterone receptor and there's a paradoxical effect on men.

@Jimboslice117 "paradoxical" effect? that sounds like broscience honestly ho hard feelings

@RoidRage69 has good points here on the dose, it has to be very low

 

[Jimboslice117]

I took those words from Dr Scot Howell, leader of androgen toxicity behind maybe one other man. Little on the bro side but it's strange how antagonising the progesterone receptor in men has that affect but not in women. In fact women's mood improve as well as mental well-being.

@Jimboslice117 "paradoxical" effect? that sounds like broscience honestly ho hard feelings

@RoidRage69 has good points here on the dose, it has to be very low

 

[LevButlerov]

I took those words from Dr Scot Howell, leader of androgen toxicity behind maybe one other man. Little on the bro side but it's strange how antagonising the progesterone receptor in men has that affect but not in women. In fact women's mood improve as well as mental well-being.

@Jimboslice117 I'm not sure I would call anyone an expert for NPP, would like to see his actual study on this.

 

[Jimboslice117]

@Jimboslice117 I'm not sure I would call anyone an expert for NPP, would like to see his actual study on this.

On the neuro toxic effects?

 

[LevButlerov]

On the neuro toxic effects?

I'm saying NPP hasnt really been studied, vs something like nandrolone decanoate has some studies out there. Esters do matter, otherwise all pain killers and steroids would be the same.

 

[Jimboslice117]

Generally speaking, esters don't do a whole bunch for side effects. The hormone with an ester attached is inert and can't do anything or bind to anything until the ester is cleaved when it reaches the blood serum. Deca, npp, ends up as nadrolone and then it can exert its effects on AR and PR etc. Before that it's just a pro drug.

I'm saying NPP hasnt really been studied, vs something like nandrolone decanoate has some studies out there. Esters do matter, otherwise all pain killers and steroids would be the same.

 

[25homes]

Run npp if it helps

 

[Jimboslice117]

It'll probably go in eventually

Run npp if it helps

 

[LevButlerov]

Generally speaking, esters don't do a whole bunch for side effects. The hormone with an ester attached is inert and can't do anything or bind to anything until the ester is cleaved when it reaches the blood serum. Deca, npp, ends up as nadrolone and then it can exert its effects on AR and PR etc. Before that it's just a pro drug.

@Jimboslice117 share a few human NPP studies he's referring to with us please
I'm going to guess what he's saying is just hallucinations

 

[Jimboslice117]

UPDATE

I've been very sick since the 21st. Lung infection with little help from the GP despite my yearly history of lung infection and pneumonia. I'm a chronic asthmatic and go down hard with anything lung related. Wife had it for 24hrs , didnt bat an eye and I'm bed ridden for a week. It seems every time I get ready for some self improvement I get smacked down hahaha. Obviously haven't started the log, zero point right now. Tried some push-ups today and got 11 and coughing fit took over. I'm going to need a couple weeks to get sorted. Not doing this to Alpha or myself halfed arsed. Lost weight and will want to gain that before starting so as not to skew the results. Thanks for your patience and I'll get back to guys who quoted me.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

UPDATE

I've been very sick since the 21st. Lung infection with little help from the GP despite my yearly history of lung infection and pneumonia. I'm a chronic asthmatic and go down hard with anything lung related. Wife had it for 24hrs , didnt bat an eye and I'm bed ridden for a week. It seems every time I get ready for some self improvement I get smacked down hahaha. Obviously haven't started the log, zero point right now. Tried some push-ups today and got 11 and coughing fit took over. I'm going to need a couple weeks to get sorted. Not doing this to Alpha or myself halfed arsed. Lost weight and will want to gain that before starting so as not to skew the results. Thanks for your patience and I'll get back to guys who quoted me.

@Jimboslice117 get well and come back to us
drink a lot of vitamin C and D and rest bro

 

[Jimboslice117]

Finally back to feeling well after 4 weeks of viral infection bouncing around lungs and nasal and ears. Pretty much gained all the fat that I had lost before this growing phase. Spent last 2 weeks gaining back lost tissue and strength. I'm not going to bother trying to loose the fat again because the log needs to start. Started last week at 240mg test, 60mg Masteron. Will titrate as needed.

Starting weight: 96.5kg, well fed. Photos to come of starting point.

Training: PPL. Will be uploaded hopefully once weekly to show you progression.
Plenty of old injuries to train around and will slowly titrate volume as food comes up.

Nutrition: 3000cals, 220ish protien. Carbs will be the primary focus as food moves up over time.

Cardio: nothing programed as of yet. Just 8k steps a day is always the goal.

Duration will be dependent on how I'm feeling and blood work. I very rarely look at testosterone levels but rather look at health markers but if you want to see my testosterone readings on the dose I'm on happy to do so. I'm a believer in slow and steady. Gaining tissue takes time doing things right for months on end so this won't be some 12 week blast lol. Not 1 client of mine has ever done less than 20 weeks of a growing phase. I may do a deload here and there, again based on feel. No I don't think you need to deload every 4 weeks. I may pull calories during deloads however to wash off some fat.

 

[LevButlerov]

Finally back to feeling well after 4 weeks of viral infection bouncing around lungs and nasal and ears. Pretty much gained all the fat that I had lost before this growing phase. Spent last 2 weeks gaining back lost tissue and strength. I'm not going to bother trying to loose the fat again because the log needs to start. Started last week at 240mg test, 60mg Masteron. Will titrate as needed.

Starting weight: 96.5kg, well fed. Photos to come of starting point.

Training: PPL. Will be uploaded hopefully once weekly to show you progression.
Plenty of old injuries to train around and will slowly titrate volume as food comes up.

Nutrition: 3000cals, 220ish protien. Carbs will be the primary focus as food moves up over time.

Cardio: nothing programed as of yet. Just 8k steps a day is always the goal.

Duration will be dependent on how I'm feeling and blood work. I very rarely look at testosterone levels but rather look at health markers but if you want to see my testosterone readings on the dose I'm on happy to do so. I'm a believer in slow and steady. Gaining tissue takes time doing things right for months on end so this won't be some 12 week blast lol. Not 1 client of mine has ever done less than 20 weeks of a growing phase. I may do a deload here and there, again based on feel. No I don't think you need to deload every 4 weeks. I may pull calories during deloads however to wash off some fat.

@Jimboslice117 welcome back to the EVO family bro
you're doing it, perfect lets see those base photos bro we waiting

id like to see training more too

 

[stevesmi]

that sucks you got sick but it's okay body memory is real

 

[Mobster]

Slow and steady works for me too

 

[JasonPriest]

being sick is never a fun sorry about that

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro I always trained while sick I don't care

 

[Quadsweep]

the problem is when you go to the gym it's hard for your immune system to stay strong with all the stuff

 

[Austin316]

damn man did you end up needing antibiotics for this

 

[sambee38]

those sinus infections can really become a problem

 

[BookerTNY]

I'm glad that you're starting to feel a little better but you might want to see a doctor if it doesn't clear up soon

 

[Arabian]

you took a couple steps back but it's not the end of the world

 

[Zyglamail]

sometimes getting sick is a pain but it gives us more motivation

 

[Shrine]

thanks for being honest on this one and telling us what's going on

 

[caligirl85]

don't worry everybody will get sick at some point just come back strong

 

[zedhed]

and we want you to be back 100% And then you'll be able to kick ass

 

[25homes]

Finally back to feeling well after 4 weeks of viral infection bouncing around lungs and nasal and ears. Pretty much gained all the fat that I had lost before this growing phase. Spent last 2 weeks gaining back lost tissue and strength. I'm not going to bother trying to loose the fat again because the log needs to start. Started last week at 240mg test, 60mg Masteron. Will titrate as needed.

Starting weight: 96.5kg, well fed. Photos to come of starting point.

Training: PPL. Will be uploaded hopefully once weekly to show you progression.
Plenty of old injuries to train around and will slowly titrate volume as food comes up.

Nutrition: 3000cals, 220ish protien. Carbs will be the primary focus as food moves up over time.

Cardio: nothing programed as of yet. Just 8k steps a day is always the goal.

Duration will be dependent on how I'm feeling and blood work. I very rarely look at testosterone levels but rather look at health markers but if you want to see my testosterone readings on the dose I'm on happy to do so. I'm a believer in slow and steady. Gaining tissue takes time doing things right for months on end so this won't be some 12 week blast lol. Not 1 client of mine has ever done less than 20 weeks of a growing phase. I may do a deload here and there, again based on feel. No I don't think you need to deload every 4 weeks. I may pull calories during deloads however to wash off some fat.

Nice work

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Sucks dealing with that but you will be back to form quick. The fat will come off.

 

[Noah Wixx]

those sinus infections can really become a problem

I had an awful one at the start of my cycle it was hell, immune health is so vital to keep us strong and going in the gym.

 

[ballin2504]

Hate to hear you got sick man

 

[Jimboslice117]

Update landing this week.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update landing this week.

waiting on update and some pics @Jimboslice117

 

[Jimboslice117]

Apologies for lateness. A great business opportunity has come up for me in supply chain of pharma medications we all need like telmisartan, metformin and hcg, hmg for fertility. Lots of time involved in getting it off the ground for customers. Here's the last couple weeks I've made note of.

Update for week beginning 22nd July. Dosage is the same. Calories the same. Increase in strength already across most lifts. Weight has moved up to 100kg but expect this to stop for now as it's most likely associated with the increase from trt to current dose with the water retention. Had a good old moon face there but that's leveled off. Blood pressure rose 15 points across the board but has also pulled back to 125/85. Still feel fatigued from sickness and wake occasionally to sore sinus and throat. Probably 80% back to normal I feel.

Nutrition is pretty typical but 4 meals consisting of chicken, red meats, egg, whey, rice, bread, fruit and vegetables.

Training is good considering how I've been recently. Training for the last week as follows.
MONDAY/THURSDAY PUSH
Incline bench 13reps 81kg 12 reps 71.5kg
Deficit pushup 14,11,6
Lateral raise cable 12 9.1kg 11, 11 myorep match 6.8kg
Single arm tricep pushdown 17,17,17 myo 11kg

TUESDAY/FRIDAY PULL
Chest support Db Row 11, 10, 8 40kg
Inverted pull up in Smith 30 reps total
Pull-down 8, 5 89kg, 9 61kg
Laying Rear delt lateral 10, 4 rest pause set
Db curl 12,7 20kg, 6 17.5kg
Incline curl 9,8,5 15kg

WEDNESDAY/SATURDAY LEGS
Srated Ham curl 12,11,10 58kg
Split squat 10,9,8 22.5kg DBs dropset to 8
leg extension 15, 10, 8 45kg 22 rest pause

 

[Jimboslice117]

Update week beginning 29th July. Dosage the same. Strength increases over most movements. Still not 100% feeling good though. Food increased by 300 cals. Sleep is great and workouts are great. Weight moved to 101kg. Tissue is being added no doubt about it alongnwith some fat. Not a bug increase in dose from trt but clearly feeling and seeing the effects of Alphas products. Training below


MONDAY/THURSDAY PUSH
Incline bench 14reps 81.5kg 12 reps 71.5kg
Deficit pushup 15,11,6
Lateral raise cable 13 9.1kg 11, 11 myorep match 6.8kg
Single arm tricep pushdown 17,17,17 myo 11kg

TUESDAY/FRIDAY PULL
Chest support Db Row 12, 10, 8 40kg
Inverted pull up in Smith 32 reps total
Pull-down 8, 5 89kg, 10 61kg
Laying Rear delt lateral 10, 4 rest pause set
Db curl 12,7 20kg, 6 17.5kg
Incline curl 9,8,5 15kg

WEDNESDAY/SATURDAY LEGS
Srated Ham curl 13,12,10 58kg
Split squat 11, 10, 9 22.5kg DBs dropset to 8
leg extension 18, 10, 8 45kg 22 rest pause

Want to add in a leg press or Lunge but my discs are not allowing it. If I'm in to much pain I wont sleep and there goes recovery for everything else so there's the trade off. Still getting stronger though on the keg work so tissue is being added.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Apologies for lateness. A great business opportunity has come up for me in supply chain of pharma medications we all need like telmisartan, metformin and hcg, hmg for fertility. Lots of time involved in getting it off the ground for customers. Here's the last couple weeks I've made note of.

Update for week beginning 22nd July. Dosage is the same. Calories the same. Increase in strength already across most lifts. Weight has moved up to 100kg but expect this to stop for now as it's most likely associated with the increase from trt to current dose with the water retention. Had a good old moon face there but that's leveled off. Blood pressure rose 15 points across the board but has also pulled back to 125/85. Still feel fatigued from sickness and wake occasionally to sore sinus and throat. Probably 80% back to normal I feel.

Nutrition is pretty typical but 4 meals consisting of chicken, red meats, egg, whey, rice, bread, fruit and vegetables.

Training is good considering how I've been recently. Training for the last week as follows.
MONDAY/THURSDAY PUSH
Incline bench 13reps 81kg 12 reps 71.5kg
Deficit pushup 14,11,6
Lateral raise cable 12 9.1kg 11, 11 myorep match 6.8kg
Single arm tricep pushdown 17,17,17 myo 11kg

TUESDAY/FRIDAY PULL
Chest support Db Row 11, 10, 8 40kg
Inverted pull up in Smith 30 reps total
Pull-down 8, 5 89kg, 9 61kg
Laying Rear delt lateral 10, 4 rest pause set
Db curl 12,7 20kg, 6 17.5kg
Incline curl 9,8,5 15kg

WEDNESDAY/SATURDAY LEGS
Srated Ham curl 12,11,10 58kg
Split squat 10,9,8 22.5kg DBs dropset to 8
leg extension 15, 10, 8 45kg 22 rest pause

Update week beginning 29th July. Dosage the same. Strength increases over most movements. Still not 100% feeling good though. Food increased by 300 cals. Sleep is great and workouts are great. Weight moved to 101kg. Tissue is being added no doubt about it alongnwith some fat. Not a bug increase in dose from trt but clearly feeling and seeing the effects of Alphas products. Training below


MONDAY/THURSDAY PUSH
Incline bench 14reps 81.5kg 12 reps 71.5kg
Deficit pushup 15,11,6
Lateral raise cable 13 9.1kg 11, 11 myorep match 6.8kg
Single arm tricep pushdown 17,17,17 myo 11kg

TUESDAY/FRIDAY PULL
Chest support Db Row 12, 10, 8 40kg
Inverted pull up in Smith 32 reps total
Pull-down 8, 5 89kg, 10 61kg
Laying Rear delt lateral 10, 4 rest pause set
Db curl 12,7 20kg, 6 17.5kg
Incline curl 9,8,5 15kg

WEDNESDAY/SATURDAY LEGS
Srated Ham curl 13,12,10 58kg
Split squat 11, 10, 9 22.5kg DBs dropset to 8
leg extension 18, 10, 8 45kg 22 rest pause

Want to add in a leg press or Lunge but my discs are not allowing it. If I'm in to much pain I wont sleep and there goes recovery for everything else so there's the trade off. Still getting stronger though on the keg work so tissue is being added.

@Jimboslice117 nice update you staying really strong on the volume
but any pics you plan to share?

 

[Mobster]

What therapy work are you doing for the back?

 

[stevesmi]

Those are some simple workouts that work great

 

[ceo]

Bros these workouts are simple but effective

 

[ROIDDERS]

I like how you're doing a 3-day split

 

[chesty]

looking good man this is a good thing to follow

 

[Ulter]

be careful with those discs!

 

[e2]

yoga will go a long way towards helping your spine health

 

[2Thick]

make sure you're stretching after each workout

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

it's essential to also warm up prior so that your muscles don't pinch the nerves

 

[Wootoom]

looking really good man I have a lot of respect for what you're doing here

 

[JasonPriest]

I like your honesty and how you lay out things simple

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro sometimes gotta just push through those injuries

 

[Quadsweep]

maybe back off a bit on your split so you only train 4-5x a week not 6x

 

[25homes]

Good job

 

[ballin2504]

You’re doing great!

 

[RoySimpson]

Take some time to recover!

 

[Noah Wixx]

Nicely done on the update

 

[Jimboslice117]

Appreciate the feedback. I'll answer questions here. Hopefully I get them all. For back therapy/warm up cool down I've had the best results regarding pain management by doing decompression exercises for the lower back, reverse cobra at different angles and laying over a half basal ball and finding the right decompression area. I also do my crunches like this with 10kg plate so that the abs are in a stretched position from the beginning with plenty of load and this also decompresses the discs. Tried yoga, acupuncture, massage, remedial, Bowen, etc but these basic ones work best for me for management but also avoiding what compresses the discs is just as important for me.

Next I'm using the basic PPL split but put extra days off when needed. If I'm feeling good, motivated and strong I'll hit it because a day will inevitably come where I'm tired, sore and undriven and that's when I'll take an extra, unprogramed rest day. Similar to work, I'll often work 7 day week because why take a weekend off if I'm able to make money and im motivated to do so but when a day or 2 comes along where I'm mentally fatigued ill have those days off. I personally don't ascribe to the "weekend" off thing. I'm taking time when I need time because if I work whilst tired and drained I'm going to have a low productivity day at work anyways so I'll have it off and recharge instead.

Next, I've tried pushing through the pain but it gets to the point where I'm having to 2 weeks off training. I can't even bench press or curl or even sleep 2 hrs straight. So I focus on the gaining a net result and going hard for a few weeks to only take 2 weeks off runs counter to my goal of making slow steady progress over this period. Doing the boring, consistent stuff over time produces the outcomes we want. Holding food high, holding training stimulus high to where I can tolerate it while progressing, holding sleep hygiene high and holding androgens at a level where protien synthesis out weighs protien breakdown and holding all of that in place for 6 months inevitably leads to new tissue.

I'm considering the 4-5 times a week. Most of my clients are doing this with PPL....PP off, LP off, PL off repeat. I've done this before and I think as my strength increases the demand on my CNS and connective tissue will warrant no more than 2 days in a row of training.

 

[Jimboslice117]

Also moving from local gym to my home gym as the distraction of people and clients needing help is interfering and I'll often feel like I'm still working.

 

[LevButlerov]

Appreciate the feedback. I'll answer questions here. Hopefully I get them all. For back therapy/warm up cool down I've had the best results regarding pain management by doing decompression exercises for the lower back, reverse cobra at different angles and laying over a half basal ball and finding the right decompression area. I also do my crunches like this with 10kg plate so that the abs are in a stretched position from the beginning with plenty of load and this also decompresses the discs. Tried yoga, acupuncture, massage, remedial, Bowen, etc but these basic ones work best for me for management but also avoiding what compresses the discs is just as important for me.

Next I'm using the basic PPL split but put extra days off when needed. If I'm feeling good, motivated and strong I'll hit it because a day will inevitably come where I'm tired, sore and undriven and that's when I'll take an extra, unprogramed rest day. Similar to work, I'll often work 7 day week because why take a weekend off if I'm able to make money and im motivated to do so but when a day or 2 comes along where I'm mentally fatigued ill have those days off. I personally don't ascribe to the "weekend" off thing. I'm taking time when I need time because if I work whilst tired and drained I'm going to have a low productivity day at work anyways so I'll have it off and recharge instead.

Next, I've tried pushing through the pain but it gets to the point where I'm having to 2 weeks off training. I can't even bench press or curl or even sleep 2 hrs straight. So I focus on the gaining a net result and going hard for a few weeks to only take 2 weeks off runs counter to my goal of making slow steady progress over this period. Doing the boring, consistent stuff over time produces the outcomes we want. Holding food high, holding training stimulus high to where I can tolerate it while progressing, holding sleep hygiene high and holding androgens at a level where protien synthesis out weighs protien breakdown and holding all of that in place for 6 months inevitably leads to new tissue.

I'm considering the 4-5 times a week. Most of my clients are doing this with PPL....PP off, LP off, PL off repeat. I've done this before and I think as my strength increases the demand on my CNS and connective tissue will warrant no more than 2 days in a row of training.

@Jimboslice117 training is pushing forward , you going to the next level

 

[Jimboslice117]

Apologies for lateness but I've kept notes on everything. This is for the 2 week period from July 29-Aug12.

Dosage still the same, see no need to increase as progress is steady. Strength increases over all movements. Food increased by 150cals cals. Sleep has been crap at 7 hrs average for last 14 days but workouts are great still. Weight moved to 103.5kg. Training below


MONDAY/THURSDAY PUSH
Incline bench 10reps 85kg 12 reps 72.5kg
Deficit pushup 15,11,6
Lateral raise cable 11, 11 11kg 12, 12 myorep match 6.8kg
Single arm tricep pushdown 22, 22, 22 myo 11kg

TUESDAY/FRIDAY PULL
Chest support DB Row 10,9,7 45kg
Inverted pull up in Smith 24 reps total(BODYWEIGHT GETTING HEAVIER)
Pull-down 6, 5 90kg, 10 75kg
Laying Rear delt lateral 12, 6 rest pause set
Db curl 12,7 20kg, 6 17.5kg
Incline curl 11,9,7 15kg

WEDNESDAY/SATURDAY LEGS
Srated Ham curl 13,12,10 62kg
Split squat 9,8,7 25kg DBs dropset to 8
leg extension 26, 26 myorep match 45k