What would you suggest? Stick with the 500/500?Big training but I wouldn't go up to 1 gram of test![]()
What would you suggest? Stick with the 500/500?Big training but I wouldn't go up to 1 gram of test![]()
500 500 for sureWhat would you suggest? Stick with the 500/500?
1 gram 5 grams whats the issue bro lol @coolguy77711
Big shoulder day @CypherOCE , you doing 200-300 grams protein steady?Hit shoulders again this morning (second time this week)
and another 250mg of Test E supplied by the big man himself @ODINLABSonce I finish up the current bottle I’ll crack into the mast E and hit a mini blast before my euro trip.
DB Shoulder Press - 3 x 30kg
DB lateral raises - 4 x 12.5kg
DB rear delt flys - 4 x 12.5kg
Cable lateral raises - 2 x 10kg
Cable pulls for reae delts - 3 x 25kg
Quick session this morning as I was running a little late but taking the advice of Odin and going heavier for the most amount of reps possible aiming for 6-8 if not 10.
Seeing that I can hit 10 ill up these weights next session and the same across the board with everything else
Food wise going well:
6 weetbix with milk
250 beef mince
1 cup of veggies
2 chicken thigh pieces (250/300g)
Potatoes 250g
Dinner:
Usually 200-300g of a protein
Salad / veggies / rice
Dinner dependant what my wife is cooking but always a protein in there
Sleep: averaging 6-6.5 hours currently. Asleep by 9/9:30pm and up at 4am.
It's more the adage of 'if you can't grow on a gram why do more?'.
Yep! Pumping the protein!!Big shoulder day @CypherOCE , you doing 200-300 grams protein steady?
True! My body seemed to adapt really well on 500mg so definitely worth keeping in mind thanks!It's more the adage of 'if you can't grow on a gram why do more?'.
Solid brother! How you settling in at s.a?Hit chest this morning, fairly quick session but got the job done which is all that matters
Machine flys - 2 x 90kg (murdered my chest on this)
Machine chest press - 2 x 65kg felt like it should’ve been more weight but I was pretty gassed from the flys
Incline DB - 2 x 25kg. Fatigue well and truly set in by this point as I’d normally push 30/32.5kg. Did one drop set here with 17k.5kg.
Triceps push down machine - 2 x 82kg
Rope pull downs - 3 x 15kg
Push down 3 x 40kg
Food practically the same as yesterday with the addition of homemade burgers so +52 on the protein
Leg day tomorrow. Going to push it hard and absolutely murder them before work![]()
It’s actually really goodSolid brother! How you settling in at s.a?
It’s actually really goodI love it so far
F700 much easier to work with here! Really helpful, great bunch of guys, everyone so far has been awesome
@CypherOCE quick but effective and no injuries right because no @BigCheese2000Hit chest this morning, fairly quick session but got the job done which is all that matters
Machine flys - 2 x 90kg (murdered my chest on this)
Machine chest press - 2 x 65kg felt like it should’ve been more weight but I was pretty gassed from the flys
Incline DB - 2 x 25kg. Fatigue well and truly set in by this point as I’d normally push 30/32.5kg. Did one drop set here with 17k.5kg.
Triceps push down machine - 2 x 82kg
Rope pull downs - 3 x 15kg
Push down 3 x 40kg
Food practically the same as yesterday with the addition of homemade burgers so +52 on the protein
Leg day tomorrow. Going to push it hard and absolutely murder them before work![]()
No @BigCheese2000 no injuries correct!!@CypherOCE quick but effective and no injuries right because no @BigCheese2000
+52 on protein is a win no matter what.
Hit shoulders again this morning (second time this week)
and another 250mg of Test E supplied by the big man himself @ODINLABSonce I finish up the current bottle I’ll crack into the mast E and hit a mini blast before my euro trip.
DB Shoulder Press - 3 x 30kg
DB lateral raises - 4 x 12.5kg
DB rear delt flys - 4 x 12.5kg
Cable lateral raises - 2 x 10kg
Cable pulls for reae delts - 3 x 25kg
Quick session this morning as I was running a little late but taking the advice of Odin and going heavier for the most amount of reps possible aiming for 6-8 if not 10.
Seeing that I can hit 10 ill up these weights next session and the same across the board with everything else
Food wise going well:
6 weetbix with milk
250 beef mince
1 cup of veggies
2 chicken thigh pieces (250/300g)
Potatoes 250g
Dinner:
Usually 200-300g of a protein
Salad / veggies / rice
Dinner dependant what my wife is cooking but always a protein in there
Sleep: averaging 6-6.5 hours currently. Asleep by 9/9:30pm and up at 4am.
@CypherOCE food is on point bro!Hit shoulders again this morning (second time this week)
and another 250mg of Test E supplied by the big man himself @ODINLABSonce I finish up the current bottle I’ll crack into the mast E and hit a mini blast before my euro trip.
DB Shoulder Press - 3 x 30kg
DB lateral raises - 4 x 12.5kg
DB rear delt flys - 4 x 12.5kg
Cable lateral raises - 2 x 10kg
Cable pulls for reae delts - 3 x 25kg
Quick session this morning as I was running a little late but taking the advice of Odin and going heavier for the most amount of reps possible aiming for 6-8 if not 10.
Seeing that I can hit 10 ill up these weights next session and the same across the board with everything else
Food wise going well:
6 weetbix with milk
250 beef mince
1 cup of veggies
2 chicken thigh pieces (250/300g)
Potatoes 250g
Dinner:
Usually 200-300g of a protein
Salad / veggies / rice
Dinner dependant what my wife is cooking but always a protein in there
Sleep: averaging 6-6.5 hours currently. Asleep by 9/9:30pm and up at 4am.
whats that friend @BigCheese2000 and if not, why not? lolHit shoulders with a friend I made at work
Absolutely smashed them and him on shoulders so much so he couldn’t touch his rear delt thanks to the pump
DB shoulder press - 3 x 30kg
Reps: 11, 6 and 9
Comments: big big pump from this. Had my friend help with getting the weights up since my wrists are cooked but moving the weight is fine. Will be looking to get this upwards to 35+ over the coming months.
DB lateral raises: 4 x 12.5kg
Reps: 12, 7, 9 and 6
DB front raises: 3 x 12.5kg
Reps: 11, 12 and 9
DB rear delt flys - 4 x 12.5kg
Reps: 12, 12, 10 and 8
Comments: BIGGGGG pump from these.
Cable rear delt flys - 3 x (100-130lbs)
45 - 60kg? I think
Reps: Until failure
Finished off with some AB crunch machine
Reps: 4 x 45kg
Overall a really good session, great pump and felt good to get out and about early in the morning on a day off
As always fueled by @ODINLABS who looks after me really well. Man is a wealth of information and a great resource for all things PEDs.
Nah not @BigCheese2000 he’s been banished to the shadow realmwhats that friend @BigCheese2000 and if not, why not? lol![]()
@CypherOCE You're hating on @BigCheese2000Nah not @BigCheese2000 he’s been banished to the shadow realm
never! he's a great guy
You’re such a slutnever! he's a great guyJudt had to find a replacement while i'm away working haha
Only if the tap & go worksYou’re such a slut![]()
Thanks bro! You're too kindGreat session brother killing it
Loveee the look of this workout!!Hit back this morning on my day off with some added cardio
25 minutes on 13% incline @ 6km/ph - good little sweat before the real work begun.
seated row - lower grip
3 sets - 82kg
Reps: 11, 7 and 10
Comments: really struggled on the second set idk why but powered through the last one.
seated row - high grip
3 sets - 50kg (upper back not as strong)
Reps: 10, 10 and 9.
Comments: Upping the weight next session. Feel like i can push this further.
Lat pulldown
3 sets - 80kg
Reps: 8, 7 and 6 (just)
Comments: Seems to be my max for now - form wasn't great so i'll drop the weight
After this I went to biceps, was feeling pretty good about the session so far, overall pump was good, forearms on fire and biceps pumped but not too much.
Cable reverse curls
3 sets - 25kg
Reps: AMRAP
Cable curls
3 sets - 25kg
Reps: AMRAP
At this point my biceps were pumped to the MAX so i tried to squeeze in some single arms curls but only managed two sets before my form was absolutely shit hahaha
Single arm cable bicep curls
2 sets - 10kg
Reps: AMRAP
That's it for today![]()
Love the detail in this update brother, really helps paint a proper picture for the workout!! I can also feel the tricep pump after those sets haha fuck yeah nice work!!Chest and tris this morning, felt a little flat to begin with but got better once I was in the zone.
Pec dec flys
3 sets - 82kg
Reps: 8, 7 and 9 (form not so great)
Comments: good opener to get the blood flowing in the chest
Incline DB chest press
3 sets - 27.5kg
Reps: 6, 7 and 8
Comments: definitely felt the fatigue on this after pec dec but more weight than last week so that’s a good thing.
Barbell Bench press
3 sets - 40kg
Reps: 7, 6 and 8.
Comments: joined in with a friend from work as he got there after I had already started chest. Never been much of a barbell kinda guy but felt okay just struggled with technique.
Seated low to high cable flys
3 sets - 12.5kg
Reps: 7, 6 and 8.
Comments: stole this variation from training with @Trenhead3cc so I try to incorporate it every now and then.
High to low cable flys
3 sets - 10kg
Reps: 8, 6 and 5
Comments: well and truly fatigued at this point so called it a day for chest and went to hit tris before heading home
Triceps:
cable pull downs
3 sets - 15kg
Reps: AMRAP
Pushdowns
3 sets - 25kg
Reps: AMRAP
Cable extensions
3 sets - 25kg
Reps: AMRAP
No added cardio today, but probably 15-20k steps at work to comelucky me
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You’re such a slut![]()
LOL !Only if the tap & go works![]()
@CypherOCE pec dec was probably great on pumps with benchChest and tris this morning, felt a little flat to begin with but got better once I was in the zone.
Pec dec flys
3 sets - 82kg
Reps: 8, 7 and 9 (form not so great)
Comments: good opener to get the blood flowing in the chest
Incline DB chest press
3 sets - 27.5kg
Reps: 6, 7 and 8
Comments: definitely felt the fatigue on this after pec dec but more weight than last week so that’s a good thing.
Barbell Bench press
3 sets - 40kg
Reps: 7, 6 and 8.
Comments: joined in with a friend from work as he got there after I had already started chest. Never been much of a barbell kinda guy but felt okay just struggled with technique.
Seated low to high cable flys
3 sets - 12.5kg
Reps: 7, 6 and 8.
Comments: stole this variation from training with @Trenhead3cc so I try to incorporate it every now and then.
High to low cable flys
3 sets - 10kg
Reps: 8, 6 and 5
Comments: well and truly fatigued at this point so called it a day for chest and went to hit tris before heading home
Triceps:
cable pull downs
3 sets - 15kg
Reps: AMRAP
Pushdowns
3 sets - 25kg
Reps: AMRAP
Cable extensions
3 sets - 25kg
Reps: AMRAP
No added cardio today, but probably 15-20k steps at work to comelucky me
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I’m probably too nice but I get it all done without having to be a prickPutting in the big haul brother fuck you must march around giving the contractors heaps of shit hahaha nearly 20k steps.. and on minimal sleep you Cray Cray![]()
Comments: this is what sent me over the I feel sick edgecurrently laying on the floor at home considering all my choices in life up to this point
Fell asleep after this and got to work half an hour latefuck this one got me in the site sheds.. actually had me laughing out loud
Closing out the day on a high
I’m absolutely cookedlong day in the heat! But powered through all the same. Consistency is the game and I will become the master
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@CypherOCE after this intense training i can see why you fell asleep bro pure hardcoreFell asleep after this and got to work half an hour late
Feeling better nowdidn’t vomit
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smashed some legs this morning, it’s currently 5:30am and I feel like I’ve run a marathon. I feel sickfelt a bit iffy this morning but decided to go anyway as the guy from work was meeting me there.
Leg extensions
3 sets - 78kg
Reps: 10, 10 and 12.
Comments: up the weight next session. Felt good did a few warm ups prior to this. Blood was definitely pumping towards the end.
Hamstring curls
3 sets @ 68kg
Reps: 10, 10 and 12.
Comments: up the weight next session. Felt good did a few warm ups prior to this. Blood was definitely pumping towards the end.
Well and truly pumped up before heading to my arch nemesis of the recent months. The squat area.
Squats
3 sets - 95kg
Reps: 10, 7 and 8.
Comments: not as good as I would’ve liked but I’d usually squat first and do extensions and curls after squats and leg press so all of that considered it was a good showing. I think
Leg press
3 sets - 180kg
Reps: 10, 10 and 10.
Comments: this is what sent me over the I feel sick edgecurrently laying on the floor at home considering all my choices in life up to this point
Overall a solid quick leg session. Would like to add in some abductor and hip thrusts next time when we have more time to dedicate to legs but for now prettt happy with how it went.
Always @BigCheese2000 when something goes wrong@CypherOCE after this intense training i can see why you fell asleep bro pure hardcore
and the late for work no issues, its likely something we can blame on @BigCheese2000![]()
cheese effect LOL! for sure bro hahaAlways @BigCheese2000 when something goes wrong
I like to call it the cheese effect - chicken goes off. Cheese turned the power off. Everything really when you think about all comes back to him.
It’s a vicious cycle![]()
Evos #1 scapegoatAlways @BigCheese2000 when something goes wrong
I like to call it the cheese effect - chicken goes off. Cheese turned the power off. Everything really when you think about all comes back to him.
It’s a vicious cycle![]()
Good work getting in there and doing it!smashed some legs this morning, it’s currently 5:30am and I feel like I’ve run a marathon. I feel sickfelt a bit iffy this morning but decided to go anyway as the guy from work was meeting me there.
Leg extensions
3 sets - 78kg
Reps: 10, 10 and 12.
Comments: up the weight next session. Felt good did a few warm ups prior to this. Blood was definitely pumping towards the end.
Hamstring curls
3 sets @ 68kg
Reps: 10, 10 and 12.
Comments: up the weight next session. Felt good did a few warm ups prior to this. Blood was definitely pumping towards the end.
Well and truly pumped up before heading to my arch nemesis of the recent months. The squat area.
Squats
3 sets - 95kg
Reps: 10, 7 and 8.
Comments: not as good as I would’ve liked but I’d usually squat first and do extensions and curls after squats and leg press so all of that considered it was a good showing. I think
Leg press
3 sets - 180kg
Reps: 10, 10 and 10.
Comments: this is what sent me over the I feel sick edgecurrently laying on the floor at home considering all my choices in life up to this point
Overall a solid quick leg session. Would like to add in some abductor and hip thrusts next time when we have more time to dedicate to legs but for now prettt happy with how it went.
16k steps bro thats intense @CypherOCE arm work is max I like thisBíceps, tríceps and abs this morning
Little sesh just to stay active as I’ll likely be pretty busy over the weekend
DB bicep curls
Sets: 4 x 15kg
Reps AMRAP
Tricep pushdowns
Sets: 4 x 45kg
Reps: AMRAP
Preacher curls
Sets: 4 x 30kg
Reps AMRAP
Single arm Tricep extension machine
Sets: 4 x 25kg (each arm)
Reps AMRAP
Cable - single arm Tricep kickbacks
Sets: 4 x 10kg
Reps AMRAP
That’s it really, quick in and out and off to work. Currently 16k steps and my day is pretty much finished besides some office work.
PEDs supplied by @ODINLABS as always. Really enjoying the test E and mast combo. Probably be one of my favourites![]()
I keep tabs on him16k steps bro thats intense @CypherOCE arm work is max I like this
you see @BigCheese2000 what he up to?
Gotta keep him honest!stay on top of @BigCheese2000![]()
make sure @BigCheese2000 dont slack lolGotta keep him honest!
Hgh not helping you sleep?hit some shoulders this morning
DB shoulder press
3 sets @ 30kg
Reps: 8
Comments: probably going to push this harder next session when I have a spotter probably go for 32/35kgs.
DB lateral raises
4 sets @ 12.5kg
Reps: AMRAP
Comments: great pump from AMRAP on this, really enjoyed it.
DB rear delt flys
4 sets @ 15kg
Reps: 10
Comments: great pump from this before heading into the face pulls, could definitely feel it working the rear delts.
Face pulls
3 sets @ 45kg
Reps: AMRAP
Comments: killer pump was strugglingtowards the end
ABS -
Crunches
Planks
Obliques
Another session powered by @ODINLABS. Smashed this mornings session after a pretty average sleep. Not getting much deep sleep at the moment. Not sure if it’s the clen or the snoring habit I seemed to have picked up but will have to try and get that back under control.
Not really, I fall asleep fast AF but just not a quality sleep. I’m leaning towards it being the clen but also the snoring I think has to play a role in it as wellHgh not helping you sleep?
I've got some coming in, really struggling with it too
Bugger , hopefully you get it sortedNot really, I fall asleep fast AF but just not a quality sleep. I’m leaning towards it being the clen but also the snoring I think has to play a role in it as well
It hasn’t gotten any better, and my throat feels like it’s got phlegm in it but I haven’t been able to get it out.
Not sure if that’s a long term PEDs use thing or notmy wife seems to think it’s the test that’s causing the snoring based on her research.
Probably a bit of everything
Definitely the clen bro Not really, I fall asleep fast AF but just not a quality sleep. I’m leaning towards it being the clen but also the snoring I think has to play a role in it as well
It hasn’t gotten any better, and my throat feels like it’s got phlegm in it but I haven’t been able to get it out.
Not sure if that’s a long term PEDs use thing or notmy wife seems to think it’s the test that’s causing the snoring based on her research.
Probably a bit of everything
The steel has claimed fingers from many men once the carnage of the cuzzies has finished hahahaahaLast update for the night
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Also pretty sure I’ve jarred my left thumb at work trying to untangle PT stands from underneath SL82 mesh@Allupfromhere will understand my pain
See how it feels in the morning, hoping it’ll be fine to push out a good session on chest day.
The steel has claimed fingers from many men once the carnage of the cuzzies has finished hahahaaha
No good brother, not that it happens often but i also hate getting sick lolFeels a little better today but skipped chest anyway and I’m pretty sure I’ve got the beginnings of a cold lol
get rest and take more vitamins and soup broFeels a little better today but skipped chest anyway and I’m pretty sure I’ve got the beginnings of a cold lol
Stiff brotherWaiting on an X-ray but fairly certain I’ve broke my thumbso we’ll see how things pan out haha
6-8weeks of just pure leg annihilationWaiting on an X-ray but fairly certain I’ve broke my thumbso we’ll see how things pan out haha
Isn't it something like, don't put your fingers where you you wouldn't put your willyWaiting on an X-ray but fairly certain I’ve broke my thumbso we’ll see how things pan out haha
Isn't it something like, don't put your fingers where you you wouldn't put your willy![]()
Yeah I shouldn’t have done it in hindsight6-8weeks of just pure leg annihilation
many are impatient bro not just you thats why we using steroids LOL @CypherOCEYeah I shouldn’t have done it in hindsightbut I’m impatient
Likely just be a cardio bunny with legs every 2/3 days hahaha see what happens with the X-ray
So truemany are impatient bro not just you thats why we using steroids LOL @CypherOCE
Great news on the thumb bro,Slack on the updates since the whole thumb saga started - turns out it isn’t broken just a very bad sprain. It’s still quiet sore so probably hurt a ligament but otherwise illl be back into the gym today.
Still plenty of steps - sleep last night was great!
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Seems to be like this as my sleep average during the week with work is 6.5-7 hours at best and I recover really well over a weekend break.
Food wise - falling off the wagon a little I seem to be an emotional eater and when things aren’t going well I eat bad foods.
Weight wise: unsure haven’t got the scales but we’ve secured a new place and I’ll be setting it up over the weekend so I’ll try and get a sense of where I’m at last weigh in was 89kg so hopefully low 88s and I’ll be happy as I have fairly visible abs and I’m starting to see the separations on my quads.
Still pushing along with @ODINLABS oils and GH. I find both very beneficial, especially the GH.
Water retention: I see to still be getting the swelling in my legs and ankles and then it returns to normal once I’m off my feet over the weekends? Not sure if this is my bodies reaction to everything or the sign of deeper issues so I’m still investigating this. Have been increasing potassium intake and keeping an eye on how much sodium I’m consuming with the aim of keep it under 2000 daily which I’m fairly consistent with.
Other than the above, everything is tracking really well
I’m finding the water usually around my anklesGreat news on the thumb bro,
Hopefully you get the water retention sorted.
As an aside 2xu do a really good Calf compression sleeve helps a lot with circulation in the legs especially if your walking around as much as you do
Yeah that's time off feet. If you have poor circulation already maybe gh water retention is magnifying it?I’m finding the water usually around my anklesfor example I had proper kankles last night and today nothing
It’s really really weird - do I need more steps or more time off my feet? Idk![]()
PerhapsYeah that's time off feet. If you have poor circulation already maybe gh water retention is magnifying it?
I had some similar things happen especially from my socks around my ankles. Tight socks maybe? The sometimes it wouldnt happen. Was thinking could be sodium intake on the day influencing it but my oestrogen was high too so not sure if it was from that. 12.5mg asin eod and bloods to come Tuesday so will see.Perhapsthey’re looking very normal and back to paper thin skin now
even had a big card refeed last night and it’s fine
Admittedly no GH last night tho. Usually won’t have any over a weekend since I’m resting anyway
The problem only started in maybe august/September last year. It’s never been an issue before so it’s really weird haha I’ve always been this busy with work and steps wise so it’s come out of the blue
i know its strange but you can recover the thumb easier with bpc157 just inject small doses broSlack on the updates since the whole thumb saga started - turns out it isn’t broken just a very bad sprain. It’s still quiet sore so probably hurt a ligament but otherwise illl be back into the gym today.
Still plenty of steps - sleep last night was great!
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Seems to be like this as my sleep average during the week with work is 6.5-7 hours at best and I recover really well over a weekend break.
Food wise - falling off the wagon a little I seem to be an emotional eater and when things aren’t going well I eat bad foods.
Weight wise: unsure haven’t got the scales but we’ve secured a new place and I’ll be setting it up over the weekend so I’ll try and get a sense of where I’m at last weigh in was 89kg so hopefully low 88s and I’ll be happy as I have fairly visible abs and I’m starting to see the separations on my quads.
Still pushing along with @ODINLABS oils and GH. I find both very beneficial, especially the GH.
Water retention: I see to still be getting the swelling in my legs and ankles and then it returns to normal once I’m off my feet over the weekends? Not sure if this is my bodies reaction to everything or the sign of deeper issues so I’m still investigating this. Have been increasing potassium intake and keeping an eye on how much sodium I’m consuming with the aim of keep it under 2000 daily which I’m fairly consistent with.
Other than the above, everything is tracking really well
Yep! Was looking like a Michelin man with the rings hahahaI had some similar things happen especially from my socks around my ankles. Tight socks maybe? The sometimes it wouldnt happen. Was thinking could be sodium intake on the day influencing it but my oestrogen was high too so not sure if it was from that. 12.5mg asin eod and bloods to come Tuesday so will see.
If you can press a finger on your skin and it's stays indented even if for only a moment then edema is on the cards. Fingers crossed it isnt that though
Definitely big cheese! He did this to me. Cursed me with his bad joojooi know its strange but you can recover the thumb easier with bpc157 just inject small doses bro
you have how much water retention can we see a pic please? @CypherOCE
and the thumb problem, we going to put this on @BigCheese2000 right?![]()
Getting there I really avoid training them lately idk why I used to enjoy it immensely but yeah idkBro your legs are looking fucking sweet brother!!! Gotta be happy with those!!
Your shorts are saying otherwise bro..I’m not even that big lol
lets are TOP quads thick bro @CypherOCEFeeling a little flat today and it’s bloody hot here and the new place doesn’t have a working AC! Fucking comical
I was talking about starting to see the quads seperate (see photo below) slowly getting there which is great! Excuse all the boxes still unpacking shitand dying slowly in the heat
Got the veins along my shins and water retention is pretty much back to zero now I’ve given my legs a break @Npcclassicphysique champ
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its gotta be all lower body bro @CypherOCE dont do hand stuffUpdates for the thumb: avulsion fracture so not terrible but not ideal either - tiny bit of the bone between joint broke off which is still causing lingering pain and giving me grief when gripping objects.
Gym wise - with the thumb I haven’t really been as the pain makes holding things difficult.
Still been keeping up with the cardio tho
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Food wise, still on track and eating pretty much the same meals.
post breakfast: 250g mince, 250g potatoes and some sauce for flavour with pineapple to help disgestion cause the little man said it helps @BigCheese2000
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