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@rustle Hoping that finger doesnt require surgery!
All the same once that ester is cleaved off brother!
Nice workout mate! Hopefully there's a cancellation and you can get in earlier with the surgeon.
@rustle man I hate to hear that about your finger. Hopefully they can get you fixed up quickly and you heal fast and 100%
Sunday 30th November 2025:
Training (9:30am):
Cardio: 25 mins
Incline DB Press: 40kg x 15, 40kg x 15, 80kg x 5
Machine Flys: 54kg x 15, 54kg x 15, 103kg x 6, 103kg x 6
Chest Dips: 20, 17, 16
DB Lat Raise: 10kg x 15, 12.5kg x 11, 12.5kg x 8, 12.5kg x 6
Upright Row: skipped
Tricep Pushdown: 21.25kg x 20, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 7
DB single arm tricep extension: 10kg x 6, 10kg x 6, 10kg x 6
General Health and Wellbeing:
Another decent session. Trained later than normal as it was the weekend. No discernable different in weights or reps. Still skipping upright rows as its not good on the wrist but all else moves quiet well
Training (9:30am):
Cardio: 25 mins
Incline DB Press: 40kg x 15, 40kg x 15, 80kg x 5
Machine Flys: 54kg x 15, 54kg x 15, 103kg x 6, 103kg x 6
Chest Dips: 20, 17, 16
DB Lat Raise: 10kg x 15, 12.5kg x 11, 12.5kg x 8, 12.5kg x 6
Upright Row: skipped
Tricep Pushdown: 21.25kg x 20, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 7
DB single arm tricep extension: 10kg x 6, 10kg x 6, 10kg x 6
General Health and Wellbeing:
Another decent session. Trained later than normal as it was the weekend. No discernable different in weights or reps. Still skipping upright rows as its not good on the wrist but all else moves quiet well
Monday 1st December 2025:
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Pull Ups: 15, 15, 10
Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown: 40kg x 12, 54kg x 15, 68kg x 7
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 20kg x 12, 30kg x 10, 40kg x 12
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 11, 47kg x 9
Cable Bicep curl: 15kg x 15, 25kg x 13, 32.5kg x 6
Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12
General Health and Wellbeing:
Was extremely tired this morning. Almost skipped the session but forced myself out of bed. Glad i did. Felt good today, decent weights moved. Switched DB row with seated ISO row today as its easier on the carpal tunnel. Also switched barbell curls to cable curls with bar as the twisting bar is better for the wrist as well.
I'm going to be stuck with the carpal tunnel for a while so need to work out a routine that limits harmful movements while still allowing progression.
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Pull Ups: 15, 15, 10
Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown: 40kg x 12, 54kg x 15, 68kg x 7
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 20kg x 12, 30kg x 10, 40kg x 12
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 11, 47kg x 9
Cable Bicep curl: 15kg x 15, 25kg x 13, 32.5kg x 6
Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12
General Health and Wellbeing:
Was extremely tired this morning. Almost skipped the session but forced myself out of bed. Glad i did. Felt good today, decent weights moved. Switched DB row with seated ISO row today as its easier on the carpal tunnel. Also switched barbell curls to cable curls with bar as the twisting bar is better for the wrist as well.
I'm going to be stuck with the carpal tunnel for a while so need to work out a routine that limits harmful movements while still allowing progression.
I find the sessions where i force myself to go end up being my better sessions lol, good work on still smashing it out even with being tired. Did the cable bar curl help with the wrists? I do the same as well.
Saturday 6th December 2025:
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Pull Ups: 15, 12, 10
Iso-lasteral High Row: 20kg x 15, 35kg x 12, 40kg x 10
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 20kg x 15, 30kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 50kg x 12
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 11, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 7
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 6.25kg x 15, 11.25kg x 12, 13.75kg x 6, 13.75kg x 6
DB Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 15kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 21.25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 8, 28.75kg x 8
General Health and Wellbeing:
Took a little overnight getaway the other day to Sydney for my bday. Ate some amazing food, had a couple of drinks and generally just took a break from everything. Stopped in cabramatta for breakfast/brunch and then barely made it back home before i started pissing out of my ass for the next 8 hours ahaha.
Was stinking hot overnight, woke up early this morning sweating already so figured i'd get up and smash a session out. Felt good, no pain from the wrist/fingers with the carpal tunnel. I'd stopped pissing out of my ass overnight so that was a positive but i did feel pretty "drained" during this session without having been able to really replenish/re-feed the body yet. Couple of different exercises in there today and a couple of extra sets compared to usual.
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Pull Ups: 15, 12, 10
Iso-lasteral High Row: 20kg x 15, 35kg x 12, 40kg x 10
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 20kg x 15, 30kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 50kg x 12
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 11, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 7
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 6.25kg x 15, 11.25kg x 12, 13.75kg x 6, 13.75kg x 6
DB Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 15kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 21.25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 8, 28.75kg x 8
General Health and Wellbeing:
Took a little overnight getaway the other day to Sydney for my bday. Ate some amazing food, had a couple of drinks and generally just took a break from everything. Stopped in cabramatta for breakfast/brunch and then barely made it back home before i started pissing out of my ass for the next 8 hours ahaha.
Was stinking hot overnight, woke up early this morning sweating already so figured i'd get up and smash a session out. Felt good, no pain from the wrist/fingers with the carpal tunnel. I'd stopped pissing out of my ass overnight so that was a positive but i did feel pretty "drained" during this session without having been able to really replenish/re-feed the body yet. Couple of different exercises in there today and a couple of extra sets compared to usual.
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Awesome session brother
, Sydney almost killed me yesterday with the heat and found my session last night lacking from it
Hey , great to hear , cort shot helped?
oh, no. i still cant feel my middle finger, but its not causing any pain or discomfort
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I'm not pro drinks but good food I'd like to see some pics? @rustle lol
you have some kind of stomach issue?
good pull ups I like the volume there and rows did well too
hows your wrist?
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Nice training man, its good to take a break but I would avoid drinking while on, interested to see how you recover
Oh it wasnt excessive. My wife and i shared a bottle of wine and had a cocktail. Other than 2 other birthday events, i've pretty much been sober since March which is a huge achievement for me considering i'd drink excessively every night previously.
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you have to do good liver detox post, you take tudca nac mt?
NAC, Tudca, milk thistle, citrus bergamot etc etc are all part of my stack since day oneyou have to do good liver detox post, you take tudca nac mt?
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slam a double doseNAC, Tudca, milk thistle, citrus bergamot etc etc are all part of my stack since day one
Sunday 7th December 2025:
Training (6am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 30kg x 20, 50kg x 15, 80kg x 5, 80kg x 4
Pec Dec: 54kg x 12, 82kg x 12, 103kg x 5 DS 75kg x 8
Chest Dip: 20, 18, 16
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 15, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 10
Lateral Raise: 7.5kg x 15, 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 8
Tricep Pushdow: 21.25kg x 12, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 6
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 15, 21.25kg x 15, 28.75kg x 7
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 20, 40kg x 17, 40kg x 12
General Health and Wellbeing:
Nothing special to report today. No PRs or increase in reps. Just testing out the hand/wrist still and throwing some slightly different exercises in around that. Have dropped upright rows for the time being as it doesn't work with the wrist.
Im determined not to waste this cycle, so need to make sure im doing exercises that stay comfortable while still allowing me to extend/push myself.
Training (6am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 30kg x 20, 50kg x 15, 80kg x 5, 80kg x 4
Pec Dec: 54kg x 12, 82kg x 12, 103kg x 5 DS 75kg x 8
Chest Dip: 20, 18, 16
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 15, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 10
Lateral Raise: 7.5kg x 15, 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 8
Tricep Pushdow: 21.25kg x 12, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 6
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 15, 21.25kg x 15, 28.75kg x 7
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 20, 40kg x 17, 40kg x 12
General Health and Wellbeing:
Nothing special to report today. No PRs or increase in reps. Just testing out the hand/wrist still and throwing some slightly different exercises in around that. Have dropped upright rows for the time being as it doesn't work with the wrist.
Im determined not to waste this cycle, so need to make sure im doing exercises that stay comfortable while still allowing me to extend/push myself.
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Good training 6am early
no PRs but you getting back into it impressive
Bro thats some big volume and weight on DB incline and Pec Dec! bloody awesome! was your chest cooked after this session?
Monday 8th December 2025:
Training (7am):
Cardio: 20 mins
Leg Press: 105kg x 12, 135kg x 12, 155kg x 8
Lying Leg Curl: 39kg x 12, 46kg x 12, 53kg x 8
Leg Extension: 47kg x 12, 54kg x 12, 68kg x 12
Hip Abduction: 28kg x 15, 35kg x 15, 42kg x 15, 49kg x 15
Standing Calf Raise: 105kg x 15, 145kg x 12, 185kg x 10
Cable Crunch: 36.25kg x 20, 40kg x 20, 47.5kg x 14
General Health and Wellbeing:
Tired AF this morning. Severely lacked motivation but pushed through, yawning the whole session. Nothing much else to note today.
Training (7am):
Cardio: 20 mins
Leg Press: 105kg x 12, 135kg x 12, 155kg x 8
Lying Leg Curl: 39kg x 12, 46kg x 12, 53kg x 8
Leg Extension: 47kg x 12, 54kg x 12, 68kg x 12
Hip Abduction: 28kg x 15, 35kg x 15, 42kg x 15, 49kg x 15
Standing Calf Raise: 105kg x 15, 145kg x 12, 185kg x 10
Cable Crunch: 36.25kg x 20, 40kg x 20, 47.5kg x 14
General Health and Wellbeing:
Tired AF this morning. Severely lacked motivation but pushed through, yawning the whole session. Nothing much else to note today.
Wednesday 10th December 2025:
Training (5:30am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 35kg x 20, 50kg x 15, 70kg x 9, 70kg x 5
Pec Dec: 54kg x 15, 82kg x 10, 82kg x 7 DS 47kg x 8
Chest Dip: 15, 15, 15
Low Cable Crossovers: 5kg x 20, 7.5kg x 15, 10kg x 15
Lateral Raise: 7.5kg x 20, 10kg x 12, 10kg x 12
Tricep Pushdow: 25kg x 20, 32.5kg x 15, 40kg x 9 DS 25kg x 10
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 12, 21.25kg x 10, 21.25kg x 9
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 15, 40kg x 17, 40kg x 15
General Health and Wellbeing:
Dropped the weights on a couple of exercises today to focus on more reps/hypertrophy. Felt pretty good actually. No pain out of the carpal tunnel, still just a completely dead and tight feeling in the middle finger.
Training (5:30am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 35kg x 20, 50kg x 15, 70kg x 9, 70kg x 5
Pec Dec: 54kg x 15, 82kg x 10, 82kg x 7 DS 47kg x 8
Chest Dip: 15, 15, 15
Low Cable Crossovers: 5kg x 20, 7.5kg x 15, 10kg x 15
Lateral Raise: 7.5kg x 20, 10kg x 12, 10kg x 12
Tricep Pushdow: 25kg x 20, 32.5kg x 15, 40kg x 9 DS 25kg x 10
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 12, 21.25kg x 10, 21.25kg x 9
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 15, 40kg x 17, 40kg x 15
General Health and Wellbeing:
Dropped the weights on a couple of exercises today to focus on more reps/hypertrophy. Felt pretty good actually. No pain out of the carpal tunnel, still just a completely dead and tight feeling in the middle finger.
Nice weight on the Incline DBs there man, if your doing 15 for 3 on dips youd be able to move some nice weight on that too
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pushing when no motivation is the key
you try a preworkout? like creatine amino mix?good incline bench! 70kg was a win! and smart you dropped weight, go slow.
The tired feeling, what are your macros and sleep like now?
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I love this section of your log and the layout. Good choice of using when to BOLD for easy to read sections etc.
Love this. Don't see this as often as I'd like. I use the 'cable crunch' machine but sometimes do these too.
Dedicated!
Great macros for your goals
BUT... you must have seen this one coming be we NEED to know where these macros are coming from including pics if you want.
For the lean mass gains you're looking for and wanting to get to 15% I'd try and make time for this
They are for sure! And bro, you can 100% get to 10%BF if you just give it time. I think what @Mobster was saying is to treat this as a marathon and not so much a sprint so no shame in letting it take a while for you to get down to sub 15% maybe even 10% and THEN go hard on the lean mass gain cycling.
Also,
Superdrol: tell me more about that I'm super interested.
Sleep: I noticed in your whole log an ongoing feeling of weakness, fatigue and complaints on sleep. Do you supplement with any sleep aids and have you tried Valerian Root? Getting to the gym when we're tired and saying 'fuck it' is good but redlining it to burnout is not.
Carpal: Any update on the surgery?
Nice workout mate. Looks like you went alright despite feeling tired.
Thursday 11th December 2025:
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Pull Ups: 13, 10, 6
Iso-lasteral High Row: 20kg x 15, 35kg x 12, 40kg x 10
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 20kg x 15, 40kg x 12, 60kg x 8
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 11
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 6.25kg x 15, 8.75kg x 10, 11.25kg x 10
DB Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 15kg x 10, 17.5kg x 8
Cable Bicep Curl: 21.25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 10, 28.75kg x 10
General Health and Wellbeing:
Nothing new to report today. Some exercises lost some reps while others gained weight and reps. No real logic to it.
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Pull Ups: 13, 10, 6
Iso-lasteral High Row: 20kg x 15, 35kg x 12, 40kg x 10
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 20kg x 15, 40kg x 12, 60kg x 8
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 11
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 6.25kg x 15, 8.75kg x 10, 11.25kg x 10
DB Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 15kg x 10, 17.5kg x 8
Cable Bicep Curl: 21.25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 10, 28.75kg x 10
General Health and Wellbeing:
Nothing new to report today. Some exercises lost some reps while others gained weight and reps. No real logic to it.
Monday 15th December 2025:
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 40kg x 20, 60kg x 12, 70kg x 9
Pec Dec: 47kg x 12, 61kg x 12, 82kg x 8, 82kg x 7
Chest Dip: 20, 16, 15
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 15, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 9
Lateral Raise: 7.5kg x 12, 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 8
Tricep Pushdow: 25kg x 15, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 9
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 12, 21.25kg x 9, 21.25kg x 10
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20
General Health and Wellbeing:
Had a very broken sleep last night. Both my wife and i were tossing and turning, waking very regularly. I went to bed approx 10pm and was awake atleast 3 times during the night before getting up to train.
I have also recently started taking SLU-PP-332 from @HeliosLabs at 25mg/day. Having previously tried 1.5mg/day it'll be interesting to see the difference.
As of today my peptide stack consists of:
MOTS-C 2mg/day - pre-workout
SLU-PP-332 25mg/day - pre-workout
SS31 5mg/day - before bed
Klow80 - before bed
Additionally i stopped taking reta about 2 weeks ago when i decided to start training properly again despite the carpal tunnel. I need to grow, which mean i need to EAT. I'll add reta back in when the cycle ends and i go back onto TRT.
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 40kg x 20, 60kg x 12, 70kg x 9
Pec Dec: 47kg x 12, 61kg x 12, 82kg x 8, 82kg x 7
Chest Dip: 20, 16, 15
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 15, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 9
Lateral Raise: 7.5kg x 12, 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 8
Tricep Pushdow: 25kg x 15, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 9
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 12, 21.25kg x 9, 21.25kg x 10
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20
General Health and Wellbeing:
Had a very broken sleep last night. Both my wife and i were tossing and turning, waking very regularly. I went to bed approx 10pm and was awake atleast 3 times during the night before getting up to train.
I have also recently started taking SLU-PP-332 from @HeliosLabs at 25mg/day. Having previously tried 1.5mg/day it'll be interesting to see the difference.
As of today my peptide stack consists of:
MOTS-C 2mg/day - pre-workout
SLU-PP-332 25mg/day - pre-workout
SS31 5mg/day - before bed
Klow80 - before bed
Additionally i stopped taking reta about 2 weeks ago when i decided to start training properly again despite the carpal tunnel. I need to grow, which mean i need to EAT. I'll add reta back in when the cycle ends and i go back onto TRT.
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You're back at it, but sleep is the issue, your room cold enough? @rustle
how do you feel about getting reta back?
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I dont handle the heat well, but on the flip side my wife doesnt like the cold. She complains even when i have a fan pointed only on me, on the slowest speed possible. At the moment we're getting down to 12-15C at night but soon it will be 20-25C overnight which is beyond my comfort level.
Sleep has been an issue for a long time if you remember from my previous logs. Havent had much success in resolving it.
A lot of sickness going around in Aus at the moment brother and it started as broken sleep for myself as well. Assuming broken sleep isn't typcial for you?
Also time to grow hey? Mate that's exciting. What's your plan for nutrition?
I havent been able to sleep a full night since recovering from Covid in June. I typically wake every 2-2.5hrs and cannot sleep past 5:30am (sunrise)
Curious hey. What does your bed-time routine look like? And your sleep hygiene? Has stress been high the past few months?
Get done with putting kids to bed by about 8:30 most nights. Then i spend some time on the computer browsing forums etc. I also do hobbyist console repair/modding watch a good movie/tv series etc. It varies night by night but generally in bed by about 11pm.
I have no problems falling asleep. i can lie down on my pillow and be out within a matter of minutes. I just cant STAY asleep.
I've trust Night Night with *some* success. Have tried DSIP recently but that actually went the other way and caused some insomnia (dose too high?). Restavit will keep me down, but i will be falling asleep the entire next day so thats not an option either.
The one thing that makes a *bit* of sense is the anxiety of knowing i want to train in the morning. It's like when you have an early flight in the morning and have a horrible sleep because youre afraid of sleeping through your alarm and missing your flight. Only difference is that even when i know im not training the next day, i still dont sleep properly.
MATE tell me you're in SE QLD and can repair Ps2's!
Curious re. sleep. I used to lean on Restavit a lot but it brings a HUGE risk of onsetting early dementia unfortunately. Low hanging fruit: what is your caffeine intake like?
Anxiety re training, maybe, but I wouldn't think so
lol nah im in that little place that nobody other than politicians and public servants live/visit. But yes i have experience with PS2s. Youre best bet up that way is ACE console repairs though.
caffeine: 1 to 2 coffees a day. usually 1 at about 7:30am and the other at 9am. No other caffeine or stims
Thanks heaps lol - I'm slowly building up a little collection of Ps2 consoles and games and one has a laser issue I'm struggling to get help with.
What was your experience with Night Night?
it was inconsistent. I got a few "good" nights out of it but unfortunately not the success rates other people seem to have.
I struggle with my sleep too man, I like melatonin and glycine, but I am sure you have tried these natural remedys.
Would recommened not using Restavit, quite a heavy list of risk and sides associated.
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Adhoc sleep update:
Last night i took 300mcg of DSIP and 2iu of HGH. slept from 10:30pm through to 4:45am uninterrupted, no wake ups.
Now I know I shouldn't be taking hgh with my carpal tunnel but needed to try it.
Tonight I'll try just the DSIP at 300mcg to see if I get the same result without HGH.
Last night i took 300mcg of DSIP and 2iu of HGH. slept from 10:30pm through to 4:45am uninterrupted, no wake ups.
Now I know I shouldn't be taking hgh with my carpal tunnel but needed to try it.
Tonight I'll try just the DSIP at 300mcg to see if I get the same result without HGH.
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You should pull the hgh imo dont even play with it @rustle
Yep have tried melatonin and glycine. The night night mix actually has a pretty potent amount (10g) of melatonin in it. I never went that high when trying it by itself. i only went to 5g.
I have struggled with sleep for a long time, can I suggest looking into CBD with your GP, It has worked wonders for me where everything else has failed.
If you're O- I'm proud of you for donating brother!! It's a big deal being O-
Not only that, today they told me im CMV negative which apparently only about 15-20% of adults are. Basically this puts me into the 1% club meaning im pumping liquid gold through my veins
Bro that means it can be used in newborns or aids patients in trauma. O- was liquid gold if a soldier went down or a cop came into the trauma unit all shot up. You'll truly be giving back if you donated every 8 weeks.
Wish i could that frequently. Its every 3 months here in Aus.
Thursday 18th December 2025:
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 40kg x 20, 60kg x 12, 70kg x 9
Pec Dec: 54kg x 12, 82kg x 9, 82kg x 9
Chest Dip: 20, 19, 14
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 12, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 10
Lateral Raise: 8kg x 15, 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12
Tricep Pushdow: 21.25kg x 15, 28.75kg x 15, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 6
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 12, 21.25kg x 10, 21.25kg x 9
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20
General Health and Wellbeing:
nothing substantial of noting today
Training (5:45am):
Cardio: 15 mins
Incline DB Bench: 40kg x 20, 60kg x 12, 70kg x 9
Pec Dec: 54kg x 12, 82kg x 9, 82kg x 9
Chest Dip: 20, 19, 14
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 12, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 10
Lateral Raise: 8kg x 15, 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12
Tricep Pushdow: 21.25kg x 15, 28.75kg x 15, 32.5kg x 12, 40kg x 6
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 15kg x 12, 21.25kg x 10, 21.25kg x 9
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20, 40kg x 20
General Health and Wellbeing:
nothing substantial of noting today
Love the layout of this push day brother! Some nice numbers in there too
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Thursday 1st January 2026:
Training (6:30pm):
Pull Ups: 12, 9, 5
Reverse grip lat pulldown: 40kg x 12, 54kg x 10, 61kg x 10
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 40kg x 12, 60kg x 11
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 11
Upright Row: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 11.25kg x 12, 13.75kg x 12, 16.25kg x 7
DB Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 17.5kg x 10, 17.5kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 7
General Health and Wellbeing:
First day of the new year and havent lost focus on training. Gave myself a "sleep in" this morning so decided to train at night time. Didnt notice much difference having had a full day's worth of meals in my body vs my usual early morning training. Weights and reps are largely the same.
I have been training consistently through the holiday period, except 27 to 30 Dec while i took a short trip away, however i havent put my sessions up in here.
I'll probably go and get bloodwork done on Tuesday next week just to see how everything is tracking. I'm 12 weeks into this cycle now, and as frustrating as the experience with injury/carpal tunnel has been, i still think i can make good progress over the next 6 weeks provided my blood work supports that.
Training (6:30pm):
Pull Ups: 12, 9, 5
Reverse grip lat pulldown: 40kg x 12, 54kg x 10, 61kg x 10
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 40kg x 12, 60kg x 11
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 47kg x 11
Upright Row: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 11.25kg x 12, 13.75kg x 12, 16.25kg x 7
DB Hammer curl: 10kg x 12, 17.5kg x 10, 17.5kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 7
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First day of the new year and havent lost focus on training. Gave myself a "sleep in" this morning so decided to train at night time. Didnt notice much difference having had a full day's worth of meals in my body vs my usual early morning training. Weights and reps are largely the same.
I have been training consistently through the holiday period, except 27 to 30 Dec while i took a short trip away, however i havent put my sessions up in here.
I'll probably go and get bloodwork done on Tuesday next week just to see how everything is tracking. I'm 12 weeks into this cycle now, and as frustrating as the experience with injury/carpal tunnel has been, i still think i can make good progress over the next 6 weeks provided my blood work supports that.
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Sunday 4th December 2025:
Training (6am):
Incline DB Bench: 40kg x 12, 75kg x 8, 75kg x 5
Pec Dec: 47kg x 12, 96kg x 9, 96kg x 7
Cable Crossovers: 13.75kg x 12, 16.25kg x 12
Chest Dip: 20, 20, 17
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 12, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 10
Lateral Raise: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 12.5kg x 10
Tricep Pushdow: 25kg x 15, 36.25kg x 12, 43.75kg x 8
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 17.5kg x 12, 21.25kg x 10, 21.25kg x 10
General Health and Wellbeing:
Feeling absolutely exhausted. My legs feel weak and like they dont want to support me walking around. Tiredness throughout the day, following my workout, generally making me feel like a sloth. Sleep has been very disrupted with 2-3 wake ups each night, usually requiring me to get up for a piss.
Have bloodwork booked for tuesday and am 95% certain it's going to come back with crashed e2. This would explain some of my fatigue issues, combined with my terrible sleep quality. If thats the case im going to drop the EQ down to 140mg/wk which will put me at a 4:1 Test:EQ ratio. I dont want to drop the EQ altogether, im seeing some good vascularity coming through now in my biceps, foreams and calves. I've got 6 weeks left to go on the cycle so i want to see how i can leverage this time to optimise potential future dosing ratios.
Training (6am):
Incline DB Bench: 40kg x 12, 75kg x 8, 75kg x 5
Pec Dec: 47kg x 12, 96kg x 9, 96kg x 7
Cable Crossovers: 13.75kg x 12, 16.25kg x 12
Chest Dip: 20, 20, 17
Low Cable Crossovers: 6.25kg x 12, 8.75kg x 12, 11.25kg x 10
Lateral Raise: 10kg x 12, 12.5kg x 12, 12.5kg x 10
Tricep Pushdow: 25kg x 15, 36.25kg x 12, 43.75kg x 8
Overhead Cable Tricep Extension: 17.5kg x 12, 21.25kg x 10, 21.25kg x 10
General Health and Wellbeing:
Feeling absolutely exhausted. My legs feel weak and like they dont want to support me walking around. Tiredness throughout the day, following my workout, generally making me feel like a sloth. Sleep has been very disrupted with 2-3 wake ups each night, usually requiring me to get up for a piss.
Have bloodwork booked for tuesday and am 95% certain it's going to come back with crashed e2. This would explain some of my fatigue issues, combined with my terrible sleep quality. If thats the case im going to drop the EQ down to 140mg/wk which will put me at a 4:1 Test:EQ ratio. I dont want to drop the EQ altogether, im seeing some good vascularity coming through now in my biceps, foreams and calves. I've got 6 weeks left to go on the cycle so i want to see how i can leverage this time to optimise potential future dosing ratios.
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if you feel tired you need to get some naps in here and there
lets see the bloods waiting to see iton training chest dips a win! @rustle
Summary of the cycle to date:
12 weeks done.
Starting weight: 78kg
Current weight: 77.3kg
Current PEDs (daily injections):
Test E: 0.3ml (525mg/wk)
Deca: 0.15ml (210mg/wk)
EQ500: 0.08ml (280mg/wk)
Current Pep usage:
MOTS-C: 2mg daily (am)
SS31: 5mg daily (pm)
DISP: 400mcg 30mins before bed
Issues:
6 weeks (planned) left of the cycle - pending outcome of bloodwork. Im not sure what the best approach now is though. Do i go hard, eat big (clean) and try get some of the mass i wanted, or do i run it out as a recomp (which is what this cycle has seemingly turned out to be). The scales show an overall weight loss, but i'm seeing good progress in a few body parts biceps and forearms in particular.
12 weeks done.
Starting weight: 78kg
Current weight: 77.3kg
Current PEDs (daily injections):
Test E: 0.3ml (525mg/wk)
Deca: 0.15ml (210mg/wk)
EQ500: 0.08ml (280mg/wk)
Current Pep usage:
MOTS-C: 2mg daily (am)
SS31: 5mg daily (pm)
DISP: 400mcg 30mins before bed
Issues:
- Carpel Tunnel and Cortisone injection prevented any effective training between 27 October and 24 November 2025. Followed by a couple of weeks of testing different exercises to get around the carpel tunnel issues. This pretty much stopped any effective training for around 6 weeks, half of the cycle. Unfortunate, but not much i could do about it. Im still waiting on resolution of the carpel tunnel. Im on the waiting list for surgery. In the meantime i now have exercises that are manageable with the discomfort, to continue to push to the end of the cycle.
- Sleep! even before this cycle i've been struggling with sleep. Waking multiple times during the night and unable to sleep past 5:00am. I've tried CS Supp Night Night with limited success. Glycine, magnesium, ashwanganda and even resorted to restavit to get a solid night sleep. Nothing has really worked. I feel this is has really limited gains throughout the cycle and i really dont know what else to do about it at this point.
- This was supposed to be a growth cycle for me. It hasnt really panned out that way due to the above issues. Weight has fluctuated from 78-83kg at different stages of the cycle.
6 weeks (planned) left of the cycle - pending outcome of bloodwork. Im not sure what the best approach now is though. Do i go hard, eat big (clean) and try get some of the mass i wanted, or do i run it out as a recomp (which is what this cycle has seemingly turned out to be). The scales show an overall weight loss, but i'm seeing good progress in a few body parts biceps and forearms in particular.
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i think you can go hard and see if you can recomp, i think putting on mass can actually hurt your wrist and other issues we cant predict imo @rustle
@rustle nice honest summary on this update. I like how you list out your current peptide usage. Those are some interesting things. I am very curious about MOTS-C.
Bros, overall looking really sweet. I like the different exercises you're doing. PED layout is pretty good. 525mg Test-E is solid. @rustle
I think that you're looking really good on this. @rustle the PED stack is really solid. I would definitely though add some proviron to it.
When bloods come back, hopefully thursday/friday, im fully expecting E2 to be completely tanked.
If confirmed, i'm planning to adjust the PEDS from next week to try bring it up a bit:
Test E: 0.35ml (612mg/wk)
Deca: 0.15ml (210mg/wk)
EQ500: 0.04ml (140mg/wk)
I'll run the cycle out at these dosages and retest bloods at the end to see where i get to. I should then have a relatively good idea of what sort of test:EQ ratio i can run in future.
If confirmed, i'm planning to adjust the PEDS from next week to try bring it up a bit:
Test E: 0.35ml (612mg/wk)
Deca: 0.15ml (210mg/wk)
EQ500: 0.04ml (140mg/wk)
I'll run the cycle out at these dosages and retest bloods at the end to see where i get to. I should then have a relatively good idea of what sort of test:EQ ratio i can run in future.
I like this setup for sure. I like that you have the Equipoise at around 300mg/week. @rustle And I like the Deca at around 200mg/wk. That is a good setup.
I have proviron in my stash. What's your reasoning for adding it though?
@rustle nice overall update from you. I like how you list out the three issues that you're going through. These are things that we all have to experience and overcome. So you're going to do it and you're going to have a lot of success.
Are you strapping the wrist?
Yes. I have a hand and wrist strap/splint that i wear nearly 24/7 and i remove the metal splint from it while training.
proviron makes the whole cycle better
If my e2 is crashed wouldn't proviron just make things worse?
Looks like a great place to start and you seem to have your bloods done and prepared !
I can’t handle Eq and NPP at the same time to many sides and anxiety is wild, but every one is different but interesting to see your feedback on both the mental sides as well as physical !
The gains will certainly be there! This is a interesting approach I’ll be checking back to see how it goes
Good luck brother
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@rustle really nice update. Big guy looks like it’s all going good for you.
Well you wouldn't use Proviron if your estrogen has crashed.
Bloodwork came back yesterday. Overall its not as bad as i thought it was going to be, but its clear the EQ has taken it's toll.
- Red Blood Cell width is quite a bit above the threshold, despite having donated blood a couple of weeks ago.
- Liver and kidney markers are elevated, but not excessively. All other reading look acceptable.
- Cholesterol is good bar HDL which is too low. Im already on statins (though this is really for LDL) and have been doing light cardio with most workouts
- Homones:
- Total T is up from my last bloods, but i've also been doing daily injections now so that was to be expected - Free T calculates to aroun 5100 pmol/L which is huge! @Sassy's Pharmaceuticals @Sassy Rep gear really doing its thing!
- Oestradiol reports a 122. This was not an LCMS test so i expect this value is significantly lower based on what i've seen the variance in other peoples bloods. This has ranged from 40-75% lower with LCMS readings
- Test E: 0.35ml (612mg/wk)
- Deca: 0.15ml (210mg/wk)
- EQ: 0.1ml (140mg/wk)
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overall good bloods imo but your alt/ast really needs work @rustle can you add a cycle support on board?
lipids i wouldnt worry about, tbh you dont even need statins but up to you
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Alot of dietary adjustments can be made to increase HDL, healthy fats such as avocados, fatty fish, olive oil, nuts etc
I already supplement with NAC, TUDCA and Citrus Bergamot.
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likely need more doses and milk thistle
Thursday 8th January 2026:
Training (8:30am):
Pull Ups: 10, 10, 7
Reverse grip lat pulldown: 35kg x 12, 60kg x 12
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 40kg x 12, 65kg x 12
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 47kg x 12
Upright Row: 17.5kg x 12, 28.75kg x 9
Face Pull: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 11.25kg x 12, 16.25kg x 10, 16.25kg x 7
DB Hammer curl: 12.5kg x 12, 20kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 15kg x 12, 28.75kg x 15, 32.5kg x 8
General Health and Wellbeing:
Felt pretty good today. Most exercises i limited myself to one warmup set and then one set at max weight. This resulted in slight increases in the number of reps i could get out at max weight.
The wrist is feeling good, so added face pulls back in today without issue. Will monitor over the coming days and see if theres any flare ups, but considering i've been doing upright rows a while now, i think it should be fine.
Biceps felt STRONG today. New max on cable curls and hammer curls even after exhausting myself on behind the back cable curls so pretty happy with that.
Sleep remains terrible. Wakeup consistently 2-3x a night. Its the middle of summer here and starting to get a bit hot at night. I've moved myself downstairs to the couch a couple of times just because theres such a big difference in room temps between the upstairs bedroom and downstairs.
I'm finding myself falling asleep at my desk for the last 3 days at around 1pm. I did some reading that potentially too high dose of MOTS-C can actually be detrimental. I've been taking 2mg each morning before trainging so will try dropping the MOTS-C tomorrow all together just to see what, if any effect that has.
Training (8:30am):
Pull Ups: 10, 10, 7
Reverse grip lat pulldown: 35kg x 12, 60kg x 12
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 40kg x 12, 65kg x 12
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 47kg x 12
Upright Row: 17.5kg x 12, 28.75kg x 9
Face Pull: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 11.25kg x 12, 16.25kg x 10, 16.25kg x 7
DB Hammer curl: 12.5kg x 12, 20kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 15kg x 12, 28.75kg x 15, 32.5kg x 8
General Health and Wellbeing:
Felt pretty good today. Most exercises i limited myself to one warmup set and then one set at max weight. This resulted in slight increases in the number of reps i could get out at max weight.
The wrist is feeling good, so added face pulls back in today without issue. Will monitor over the coming days and see if theres any flare ups, but considering i've been doing upright rows a while now, i think it should be fine.
Biceps felt STRONG today. New max on cable curls and hammer curls even after exhausting myself on behind the back cable curls so pretty happy with that.
Sleep remains terrible. Wakeup consistently 2-3x a night. Its the middle of summer here and starting to get a bit hot at night. I've moved myself downstairs to the couch a couple of times just because theres such a big difference in room temps between the upstairs bedroom and downstairs.
I'm finding myself falling asleep at my desk for the last 3 days at around 1pm. I did some reading that potentially too high dose of MOTS-C can actually be detrimental. I've been taking 2mg each morning before trainging so will try dropping the MOTS-C tomorrow all together just to see what, if any effect that has.
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Pull ups on the open perfect
@rustle but sleep is the real issue. have you started testing more sleep aids for it?
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Alot of diet
Mots is pretty strong man. I started at 5mg and was crashing so hard in the arvo - try 1mg and see how you go 1.5 feels great for me
When you do bloods again please include ferritin. Your result all indicate that it is low.
Ferritin was tested when i donated blood on 17 December and was 144ug/L which is pretty normal according to them.
Good work , I was going to say this actually. Citrus bergamot is a great supplement. ,
If you are into your endurance and cardio. Cardarine GW50156 could be a good addition aswell , will help your cholesterol.
Bro bloods look good but you need N2Guard from needtobuildmuscle.com
There's bloodwork on here showing it works.
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for sure n2guard would be a good addition
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Nice workout despite the sleep issues? Have you had a deload recently? I know when I'm due (usually every two months or so) I start having sleep issues.
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Nice touchdown brother
Ive had sleep issues since i recovered from covid and pneumonia mid last year.
Nice Bold Cyp!
Monday 19th January 2026:
Training (6am):
Pull Ups: 12, 10, 9
Reverse grip lat pulldown: 35kg x 12, 68kg x 8
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 40kg x 12, 70kg x 10
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 61kg x 10
Upright Row: 17.5kg x 12, 28.75kg x 10
Face Pull: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 11.25kg x 12, 16.25kg x 10, 16.25kg x 8
DB Hammer curl: 12.5kg x 12, 17.5kg x 12, 17.5kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 15kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12, 32.5kg x 9
General Health and Wellbeing:
Only got 4 hours sleep last night. Felt pretty weak in the gym today. Strength and endurance were both down in general today.
Tuesday 20th January 2026:
Training (6am):
Leg Press: 105kg x 12, 135kg x 8
Deadlift: 60kg x 12, 100kg x 12, 100kg x 8
Lying Leg Curl: 39kg x 12, 53kg x 10, 53kg x 8
Leg Extension: 46kg x 12, 68kg x 11, 75kg x 8
Hip Abduction: 35kg x 12, 49kg x 12, 36kg x 8
Standing Calf Raise: 105kg x 12, 145kg x 12, 185kg x 10
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 40kg x 12
Leg Raises: 20, 15, 15
General Health and Wellbeing:
Again only 4 hours sleep. was an OK session but nothing really improved. Sleep deprivation has got the better of me. I arrived at work around 8:30am and just slept in the car for an hour as i was nearly falling asleep on the drive there. By 1pm i was nearly asleep at my desk so went and had another nap for 30mins in the car. Something has to change here, its not good.
Training (6am):
Pull Ups: 12, 10, 9
Reverse grip lat pulldown: 35kg x 12, 68kg x 8
Seated Iso Lateral Row: 40kg x 12, 70kg x 10
Rear delt reverse fly: 33kg x 12, 61kg x 10
Upright Row: 17.5kg x 12, 28.75kg x 10
Face Pull: 15kg x 12, 25kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12
Behind Back Cable Bicep curl: 11.25kg x 12, 16.25kg x 10, 16.25kg x 8
DB Hammer curl: 12.5kg x 12, 17.5kg x 12, 17.5kg x 10
Cable Bicep Curl: 15kg x 12, 28.75kg x 12, 32.5kg x 9
General Health and Wellbeing:
Only got 4 hours sleep last night. Felt pretty weak in the gym today. Strength and endurance were both down in general today.
Tuesday 20th January 2026:
Training (6am):
Leg Press: 105kg x 12, 135kg x 8
Deadlift: 60kg x 12, 100kg x 12, 100kg x 8
Lying Leg Curl: 39kg x 12, 53kg x 10, 53kg x 8
Leg Extension: 46kg x 12, 68kg x 11, 75kg x 8
Hip Abduction: 35kg x 12, 49kg x 12, 36kg x 8
Standing Calf Raise: 105kg x 12, 145kg x 12, 185kg x 10
Cable Crunch: 40kg x 12, 40kg x 12, 40kg x 12
Leg Raises: 20, 15, 15
General Health and Wellbeing:
Again only 4 hours sleep. was an OK session but nothing really improved. Sleep deprivation has got the better of me. I arrived at work around 8:30am and just slept in the car for an hour as i was nearly falling asleep on the drive there. By 1pm i was nearly asleep at my desk so went and had another nap for 30mins in the car. Something has to change here, its not good.
Hey brother,
Saw this update and I still reckon the answers in your blood.
Your haemoglobin is at the bottom of the range, your HCT and MCH are both at the bottom end and your RDW is elevated.
This means the EQ is causing you to push out RBC's at an accelerated rate and your body doesn't have enough supplies to make them properly, hence each cell is low in haemoglobin and the RDW means that rather than each cell being roughly the same size you have a higher level that outside normal size, in your case I'd say smaller.
All this means is a lower oxygen carrying ability and you feeling exhausted.
I'd get some Maltofer iron supplement, increase red meat consumption and ensure your taking vit C to help with absorption.
Hope this helps.
Love this explanation brother!
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sleep is very low we need to get sleep up
@rustle any pre bed sleep aids? to keep it longer.trianing pull ups is the #1 for me there and on leg press lets add a drop set in future
Fun fact: I've been tracking my weight and bodyfat % using some "fairly" expensive withings smart scales since i started my journey back in April last year. I always thought the scales read high bf. I started at 93kg and it reported 33.8% bodyfat. I was definitely fat, but i didnt think it was accurate.
Anyway they've been reporting only as low as 23% and given i have abs visibly starting to show i knew it was wrong and just assumed a 7% correction factor. I was exploring the app over the weekend and realised i had set my gender to female instead of male. After correcting that, i jumped on the scales this morning and lo and behold, its now reporting 75kg and 15.1% bf which i think is now pretty close to true.
TLDR; if you want to get lean, dont be a woman
Anyway they've been reporting only as low as 23% and given i have abs visibly starting to show i knew it was wrong and just assumed a 7% correction factor. I was exploring the app over the weekend and realised i had set my gender to female instead of male. After correcting that, i jumped on the scales this morning and lo and behold, its now reporting 75kg and 15.1% bf which i think is now pretty close to true.
TLDR; if you want to get lean, dont be a woman
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