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OGsunnyMIA

OGsunnyMIA

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5’11”
180 lbs
Been on trt for over 1 month 200 / weekly
Ordered bunch of parmaqo qomatropin & pfizer genotropin as had bad back injury and hopefully this will help ( will do 2 iu every other day for few weeks and then 5 iu daily every other day for 6 months )
Taking supplements:
Saw palmetto
Liv 52
Cystone
Swedish flower pollen
Fish oil / 1000mg + 100 Coq-10

Your thoughts 💭 are appreciated.
Want to shred and be 178 or so nicely cut up and shredded…
 
OGsunnyMIA said:
42
5’11”
180 lbs
Been on trt for over 1 month 200 / weekly
Ordered bunch of parmaqo qomatropin & pfizer genotropin as had bad back injury and hopefully this will help ( will do 2 iu every other day for few weeks and then 5 iu daily every other day for 6 months )
Taking supplements:
Saw palmetto
Liv 52
Cystone
Swedish flower pollen
Fish oil / 1000mg + 100 Coq-10

Your thoughts 💭 are appreciated.
Want to shred and be 178 or so nicely cut up and shredded…
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@OGsunnyMIA we are happy to have you on evolutionary.org, good question
and you're not the first to add something to TRT, especially hgh
why are you hgh doses eod? hgh should be taken 5/2 for a long burst followed by a short pause thats why 5/2

supplements seem lacking n2guard organ liver support but even what you're taking on fish oil is off

we need to know a lot more about you , you have to share bro, put up your diet training and trt LOG for us in a NEW thread please

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
 
back injuries are very bad news for weight trainers
I know so many guys that I trained with who been not the same
make sure you log your comeback
 
def pick up n2guard
everything else looks good
now time to log your journey
 
I'm excited to see your log

and I'm excited to see how well you react to going on growth hormone
 
LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

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LOG LOG LOG
 
LOG LOG LOG
let's see your come back and let's see you get successful
 
that sounds like a good layout
i would possibly add in some bpc and tb500 too peptides
log it!
 
OGsunnyMIA said:
42
5’11”
180 lbs
Been on trt for over 1 month 200 / weekly
Ordered bunch of parmaqo qomatropin & pfizer genotropin as had bad back injury and hopefully this will help ( will do 2 iu every other day for few weeks and then 5 iu daily every other day for 6 months )
Taking supplements:
Saw palmetto
Liv 52
Cystone
Swedish flower pollen
Fish oil / 1000mg + 100 Coq-10

Your thoughts 💭 are appreciated.
Want to shred and be 178 or so nicely cut up and shredded…
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hgh is killer bro
 
ceo said:
bros you 180 pounds and 5'11''
got some room to grow
but get healthy first and log
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Bro,
I dont want to grow. I want to add just a little extra muscle and shred shred shred. Basically a “calisthenics guy” figure :)
( me currently )
 
LevButlerov said:
@OGsunnyMIA we are happy to have you on evolutionary.org, good question
and you're not the first to add something to TRT, especially hgh
why are you hgh doses eod? hgh should be taken 5/2 for a long burst followed by a short pause thats why 5/2

supplements seem lacking n2guard organ liver support but even what you're taking on fish oil is off

we need to know a lot more about you , you have to share bro, put up your diet training and trt LOG for us in a NEW thread please

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
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Hey Lev,

Will have to disagree with you as far as 5/2 GH use.
Numerous studies have been conducted and proven that bi daily ( every other say ) prolonged use of HGH produces better results and allows your pituitary gland to continue producing own hgh and restricting memory affect of continued use thus overriding the total disabling of it ( in the case of a daily use your pituitary gland fully disables own production, even if it tinny )
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14517774/
Thats one study, but there are many on goggle if you search …
Another research:
No differences were found in the various parameters after 12 and 36 hours post rhGH injection. In conclusion, rhGH therapy given on alternate days is clinically effective and may result in improved patient compliance. Monitoring glucose tolerance and thyroid function while on rhGH is essential.

As far as blog. I am not very good at it and not a very public individual so will post what i can.
Completely agree on vitamins and will order n2guard as everyone seems to love it ))

Thank you for support and advice !
Very much appreciated and cherished !
 
OGsunnyMIA said:
42
5’11”
180 lbs
Been on trt for over 1 month 200 / weekly
Ordered bunch of parmaqo qomatropin & pfizer genotropin as had bad back injury and hopefully this will help ( will do 2 iu every other day for few weeks and then 5 iu daily every other day for 6 months )
Taking supplements:
Saw palmetto
Liv 52
Cystone
Swedish flower pollen
Fish oil / 1000mg + 100 Coq-10

Your thoughts 💭 are appreciated.
Want to shred and be 178 or so nicely cut up and shredded…
Click to expand...
thats really not an actual trt dose.. that will land you well over 1000 for a total T number which is NOT healthy to stay on year round... thats too much and too high..

are you under the impression that hgh is going to shred you up? it takes TIME to begin to start showing fat loss effects just so you are aware...

5 ius daily is absolutely ridiculous.. that is COMPLETELY unnecessary and you will find more bad than good coming from that in terms of side effects.. 2-3 ius of quality HGH is MORE than enough.. i would hate to see you over do it and not get what you are wanting/expecting.. my goal is to always make sure people get them most out of what they are doing while experiencing the LEAST amount of side effects possible... quality of life and longevity should always come first
 
dylangemelli said:
thats really not an actual trt dose.. that will land you well over 1000 for a total T number which is NOT healthy to stay on year round... thats too much and too high..

are you under the impression that hgh is going to shred you up? it takes TIME to begin to start showing fat loss effects just so you are aware...

5 ius daily is absolutely ridiculous.. that is COMPLETELY unnecessary and you will find more bad than good coming from that in terms of side effects.. 2-3 ius of quality HGH is MORE than enough.. i would hate to see you over do it and not get what you are wanting/expecting.. my goal is to always make sure people get them most out of what they are doing while experiencing the LEAST amount of side effects possible... quality of life and longevity should always come first
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200 weekly of testa was prescribed by the doctor so don’t understand how it is not healthy ?? People who train START at 200 weekly ( considered a bigger dose )
GH: as stated, its a bi daily dose / every other day ( 5 iu every other day as an objective and the top desired amount to be used )and obviously through time with 2 iu every other day as a start …
 
OGsunnyMIA said:
200 weekly of testa was prescribed by the doctor so don’t understand how it is not healthy ?? People who train START at 200 weekly ( considered a bigger dose )
GH: as stated, its a bi daily dose / every other day ( 5 iu every other day as an objective and the top desired amount to be used )and obviously through time with 2 iu every other day as a start …
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@OGsunnyMIA 200mgs testosterone isnt a bad dose but 2 IUs for HGH is 5/2 if you do use hgh
are you planning to put up a log journal?

directions
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/advise-adjustments.95973/post-1409978
 
OGsunnyMIA said:
200 weekly of testa was prescribed by the doctor so don’t understand how it is not healthy ?? People who train START at 200 weekly ( considered a bigger dose )
GH: as stated, its a bi daily dose / every other day ( 5 iu every other day as an objective and the top desired amount to be used )and obviously through time with 2 iu every other day as a start …
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as i already said.. 200 mg of test per week will likely put your test levels at 1400 give or take.. that is NOT healthy whatsoever... thats far too much to be walking around all year with levels that hight... there is a point in everything where going too high is detrimental and that level certainly is... as i said, good luck with everything, i wish you nothing but the best...
 
OGsunnyMIA said:
200 weekly of testa was prescribed by the doctor so don’t understand how it is not healthy ?? People who train START at 200 weekly ( considered a bigger dose )
GH: as stated, its a bi daily dose / every other day ( 5 iu every other day as an objective and the top desired amount to be used )and obviously through time with 2 iu every other day as a start …
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I do 70mg of test for my trt and stay in the 700 total t range, when I'm on cycle I run between 200-300mg so don't believe everything u read or hear 200mg is not. Big dose for a cycle most guys run 500mg for a starting test cycle. You do what you like I just figured I'd clear some things up for you.
 
Topps_Baseball88 said:
I do 70mg of test for my trt and stay in the 700 total t range, when I'm on cycle I run between 200-300mg so don't believe everything u read or hear 200mg is not. Big dose for a cycle most guys run 500mg for a starting test cycle. You do what you like I just figured I'd clear some things up for you.
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Thx bro ! I figured i would do high dose of trt (350 or 450 weekly ) while on gh for 6 months and then back to a 100 weekly or so as maintenance afterwards.
But again, i go slowly and cautiously:)
Cheers !)
 
s.gentz said:
This is not TRT. It's a steroid cycle. TRT is meant to replace your natural production while you stay in range or maybe slightly above.
350-400 is gonna put you way out of range.
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And ….
I want to be out of range for that cycle …
Did you read my comment: high dose for a cycle and then back to regular dosing …
 
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