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ABane43

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Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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It’s really hard to recommend anything to you without knowing more about you.
What not start a log so we can see where you are currently at and help you push forward. From what I can see in your pic you’ve got a great base.
 
It’s really hard to recommend anything to you without knowing more about you.
What not start a log so we can see where you are currently at and help you push forward. From what I can see in your pic you’ve got a great base.
No problem, I definitely will start logging my workouts and meals in detail, thanks for the response
 
Welcome to the community.
For your 1st cycle you want to keep it simple.
Testosterone should always be the base of any cycle. I prefer longer acting esters like Testosterone enanthate.

Based on current market conditions and availability of compounds, i would suggest
Testosterone enanthate
Boldenone undecylenate
Hgh
Clenbuterol

Boldenone undecylenate is a excellent multi purpose compound. It can be used for a clean lean bulk or a cut cycle.
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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No problem, I definitely will start logging my workouts and meals in detail, thanks for the response
@ABane43 welcome to the EVO family :D happy to see your thick! you're big and thick already, amazing pic, huge triceps and big shoulders and back I see. But I agree with @s.gentz without a LOG how can we help you honestly? its all guess work if we got no log from you.

You can see @s.gentz has a good log here - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2024-2025-build-log.101897/
and @jerseyshoremuscles who posted has a log here - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-tesamorelin-hexarelin-igf-cycle-log.104230/

what we'd like you to do @ABane43 is start a NEW thread with your pre cycle log, post your diet training sleep history and supp use and we can properly guide you on your journey as a big EVO family and guide you into a good cycle, its easy 15min to start and 5min to update weekly.

HOW-TO LOG?
  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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@ABane43 i think you are looking terrific. if you are just focused on weight training you might want to take something that induces pumps. that will make you feel great when you train
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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seems like for you a recomp stack would work well. some test and var
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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From someone who was/is in a similar boat - I hopped on in November of last year, and I'm a similar age with a similar training history - my biggest recommendation would be to start slow, make the most of the least, and learn to roll with the punches.

Obviously, get your bloods done beforehand - Get a general hormone panel, but also get your liver, kidneys, and full blood count looked at. I got the basic bloods done, but regret not getting more info before i started. This is a good all-around blood test, or at least a good range of markers -- https://imedical.com.au/order/blood...te-blood-tests/blood-testing-for-bodybuilders.

I started at 150mg of Test E, which bumped my test levels to about 950 nmol/L - this helped me to put on 10kg of muscle tissue in just 6 months. Anyone who recommends multiple compounds or medium to high doses for a first cycle doesn't care about your health.

When I say 'roll with the punches', this comes to side effects - 150mg test will increase your estrogen levels, I tried to manage this with arimidex at first, but responded poorly - so instead added 150mg Primo to control E2 and also add other aesthetic and anabolic benefits. The primo made my hair start to fall out and thin, had to find something to deal with that. Overall the primo is great tho, if you can get real stuff. 10/10 recommendation for a second compound, Masteron is a good alternative, but primo feels smoother

After several months on 250 test and 150 primo (still very low doses in comparison), I realised my blood pressure was in an unhealthy range - so I pulled back to 150 test 150 primo to learn how to get my BP under control. You are guaranteed to run into side effects, but starting slow gives you the chance to understand what compounds cause what side effects and gives you the time to deal with them.

I believe 'blast and cruise' is a much better method than using a PCT. Overall, start slow - build up doses and compounds until you're at a 'cycle level doses' - see how you respond to that, and then pull back to a cruise. After 4-8 weeks on a cruise, you'd be ready to start again at those higher doses and blast from there.

I'm sure people will disagree with these methods, but this is a health-first approach to using PEDs - if you look after your health month to month, you'll be fine for years to come. Work with a coach too who can guide you through how training, PEDs, food and everything all works together.

As far as supplements, I take:
- Fish oils
- Zinc/magnesium (ZMA) in the morning and more magnesium at night
- CoQ10 and nattokinase for heart health and blood pressure
- Nac, milk thistle and Tudca for kidneys and liver
- Finasteride to keep my hair
- Injectable L-carnitine - to slow the rate of fat gained in a bulk and support training
- A daily greens supplement - 'Vitality switch' if you're in Aus if the best

If you nail your diet, get enough sleep, reduce stress, basically don't ever drink alcohol, you'll run into fewer and fewer side effects


P.S
Any questions, clarification or disagreements - please do ask/ comment :)
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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can't tell a lot from this pic except you got some huge triceps and a nice tight back. get a log up and post up your full pics and goals @ABane43
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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bro i can tell you got texas genetics. got good frame. you need to hit the tren HARD
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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@ABane43 bros you looking good! the arms look excellent. nice job on this one!
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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glad to see you on the EVO family forum. hope to see a log out of you. tell us more about you !
 
From someone who was/is in a similar boat - I hopped on in November of last year, and I'm a similar age with a similar training history - my biggest recommendation would be to start slow, make the most of the least, and learn to roll with the punches.

Obviously, get your bloods done beforehand - Get a general hormone panel, but also get your liver, kidneys, and full blood count looked at. I got the basic bloods done, but regret not getting more info before i started. This is a good all-around blood test, or at least a good range of markers -- https://imedical.com.au/order/blood...te-blood-tests/blood-testing-for-bodybuilders.

I started at 150mg of Test E, which bumped my test levels to about 950 nmol/L - this helped me to put on 10kg of muscle tissue in just 6 months. Anyone who recommends multiple compounds or medium to high doses for a first cycle doesn't care about your health.

When I say 'roll with the punches', this comes to side effects - 150mg test will increase your estrogen levels, I tried to manage this with arimidex at first, but responded poorly - so instead added 150mg Primo to control E2 and also add other aesthetic and anabolic benefits. The primo made my hair start to fall out and thin, had to find something to deal with that. Overall the primo is great tho, if you can get real stuff. 10/10 recommendation for a second compound, Masteron is a good alternative, but primo feels smoother

After several months on 250 test and 150 primo (still very low doses in comparison), I realised my blood pressure was in an unhealthy range - so I pulled back to 150 test 150 primo to learn how to get my BP under control. You are guaranteed to run into side effects, but starting slow gives you the chance to understand what compounds cause what side effects and gives you the time to deal with them.
Perfect bro, I would just add HCG to keeps balls more alive if doing it for long. Rest of it you spoke my mind out. If the bloods come out with very high natty test levels for OP, then going directly to 200/250 makes sense? Also where in Aus did you get Primo from?
 
Hey guys,
New to the community and looking into doing my first cycle within the next few months.
I've played sport (mauy thai, rugby etc.) my whole life and have be specifically weight training for the past 3.5 years. I wanted to post to see if anyone has advice on what to run, how much and PCT to ensure I'm as safe as I can possibly be. I don't take many pictures of my physic but this is my current state and wanting to see if I could push it a little more.

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Great physique man. Can’t wait to see your log.
 
Solid
 
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