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-Test E: 200mg e4d OR 350mg a week, 200mg Monday and 150mg Friday. Both work out to the same total test over 11 weeks.
-Aromasin: 10mg eod, weeks 1-11
-Finasteride(as a precaution): 1mg everyday, weeks 1-11

PCT
-Clomid: start 2 weeks after last test dose. For 4 weeks.
Weeks 1-2, 50mg everyday
Weeks 3-4, 25mg everyday
-N2generate and N2guard: weeks 1-4
-Ostarine: weeks 1-4

Which of the test dose method do you guys prefer? If there is a difference. 200mg e4d or 350mg a week.
Is the Aromasin, Finasteride and clomid dosage adequate?
Anything I’m missing?
 
It’s been proven with extensive blood work that Long Acting Esters like Cypionate and Enanthate maintain optimal (less of a roller coaster effect) if you inject every 5-days. There are plenty of people out their that pin once a week with Long Acting Esters and see great results as well. But if we’re talking maintaining Peek Hormone Blood Serum Levels, Every 5-days is spot on.

As far as the dosage, it’s all body weight and experience dependent. Not sure about your body stats and age, but I ALWAYS recommend to first time users to start out with a 200/mg every 5-days dosage schedule. If money is a concern and your wanting to stretch our each Vial to the fullest, 200/mg once a week will give you some good results that you’ be happy about. I would never recommend starting out at 350/400/500mg a week for a first timer - see how your body responds to the lower doses and work your way up each cycle. Always try and use this logic - What dosage gives “me” my best gains with the least side effects.
 
Oh my bad. I’m 5’6”, 170lbs at around 13-15% body fat.

After seeing what you had to say, I’m gonna drop my dosage for sure. How is my Aromasin, clomid and Finasteride dosage relative to 125mg test e4d or 200mg once a week?

Glad I asked before diving in. Thanks for the response ragincajun!
 
Gluckintucker said:
-Test E: 200mg e4d OR 350mg a week, 200mg Monday and 150mg Friday. Both work out to the same total test over 11 weeks.
-Aromasin: 10mg eod, weeks 1-11
-Finasteride(as a precaution): 1mg everyday, weeks 1-11

PCT
-Clomid: start 2 weeks after last test dose. For 4 weeks.
Weeks 1-2, 50mg everyday
Weeks 3-4, 25mg everyday
-N2generate and N2guard: weeks 1-4
-Ostarine: weeks 1-4

Which of the test dose method do you guys prefer? If there is a difference. 200mg e4d or 350mg a week.
Is the Aromasin, Finasteride and clomid dosage adequate?
Anything I’m missing?
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Age, stats?
 
RaginCajun41 said:
It’s been proven with extensive blood work that Long Acting Esters like Cypionate and Enanthate maintain optimal (less of a roller coaster effect) if you inject every 5-days. There are plenty of people out their that pin once a week with Long Acting Esters and see great results as well. But if we’re talking maintaining Peek Hormone Blood Serum Levels, Every 5-days is spot on.

As far as the dosage, it’s all body weight and experience dependent. Not sure about your body stats and age, but I ALWAYS recommend to first time users to start out with a 200/mg every 5-days dosage schedule. If money is a concern and your wanting to stretch our each Vial to the fullest, 200/mg once a week will give you some good results that you’ be happy about. I would never recommend starting out at 350/400/500mg a week for a first timer - see how your body responds to the lower doses and work your way up each cycle. Always try and use this logic - What dosage gives “me” my best gains with the least side effects.
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After hearing what you had to say, I agree and it makes sense. I’m gonna drop my dose to 250mg once a week. I should have mentioned I’m 5’6”, 170lbs sitting at 13-15% bodyfat, 130carbs/170protein/80fat.

Thanks for your response! Thoughts on Aromasin/clomid/Finasteride dosing at 250mg test e once a week?
 
Mobster said:
Age, stats?
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I went from 130lbs to 170lbs, pretty steady gains until the past year. Feel like I’m running into a wall/reaching my genetic potential. I’ve tried all kinds of training methods, splits, foods, vitamins and supplements. I’m sure I could press another 10lbs in the next year or two. But I’m hungry for much more now.
 
Gluckintucker said:
I went from 130lbs to 170lbs, pretty steady gains until the past year. Feel like I’m running into a wall/reaching my genetic potential. I’ve tried all kinds of training methods, splits, foods, vitamins and supplements. I’m sure I could press another 10lbs in the next year or two. But I’m hungry for much more now.
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Forgot to mention I’m 20 now. I started lifting when I was 16, and I’ve been going nearly everyday(6 days on 1 day off: various splits) for the past 4 years. I know I’m still young but I already look years ahead of anyone my age. I’m very serious about bodybuilding, and certain I know how to properly train/eat. I plan on starting the cycle with my cutting macros being 75carbs/180protein/100fat.
 
Gluckintucker said:
Forgot to mention I’m 20 now. I started lifting when I was 16, and I’ve been going nearly everyday(6 days on 1 day off: various splits) for the past 4 years. I know I’m still young but I already look years ahead of anyone my age. I’m very serious about bodybuilding, and certain I know how to properly train/eat. I plan on starting the cycle with my cutting macros being 75carbs/180protein/100fat.
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you are making the worst mistake of your young life so far using steroids at your age.

are you aware of the dangers? dylan asked you above if you know about finasteride and your answer proved you are ignorant

finasteride is used by transexuals for a reason. you said it blocks DHT, do you even realize the dangers of doing that? you are simply not ready for steroids nor should you be using finasteride without knowing all the facts

if you go through with this at best your dick will not work at 25, you will have to run to the drawer to take a dick pill just to fuck a chick.. how embarassing for a guy to not be able to get it up and the girl will think you are a beta cuck. don't do it man
 
I won’t be as harsh as stevesmi, but he’s right Gluckintucker - if I had it to do over, I’d have never taken my first Testosterone Enanthate injection back in 1995. I was a 20yo immature kid who didn’t know the first thing about Steroids. All I wanted was to look like Mike Matarazzo from the first time I saw him on the cover of Muscular Development magazine. Fast forward to 2018 - I’ve been on Hormone Replacement Therapy for for 10 years, Blood Pressure medicine for 8 years, Cialis for 4 years, and just had to start Cholesterol med.’s last month. I get a thorough mandatory physical exam by my employer yearly, and there is abnormal noise indicating from my Left Ventricle, which I’m told by a Heart Specialist could be a Valve Problem caused by Heart Enlargement. So you see, when you hear us guys telling the younger guys not to do it - we are speaking from experience. AAS’s cause Chronic (long term) health issues, not many lasting Acute (short term) health problems. If you play in this game long enough, the health affects are irreversible.
 
Gluckintucker said:
Forgot to mention I’m 20 now. I started lifting when I was 16, and I’ve been going nearly everyday(6 days on 1 day off: various splits) for the past 4 years. I know I’m still young but I already look years ahead of anyone my age. I’m very serious about bodybuilding, and certain I know how to properly train/eat. I plan on starting the cycle with my cutting macros being 75carbs/180protein/100fat.
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Still way too young man. 4 years isn't that long and there's no way you've been dieting, recovering and training properly for even half of those 4 years. If you even are right now. Just seeing how you have a 6 days on 1 day off split and complaining about slow progress it's pretty evident you're either not training with the required intensity or recovering well enough.

You are not even close to your genetic limit yet and are still growing at only 20 yo. Why shut yourself down now when you have so much more room to improve without gear?

Just keep working hard in the gym if progress has slowed try out a different program but really stick to it or try alternative exercises. Personally I would train with more intensity, drop down to a 3 day split such as ppl 3 on 1 off or focus on strength with a 1 on 1 off full body.

Itll be a huge mistake jumping on now.

Also If you want to cut do it naturally no need for gear you'd get better results starting while lean anyways.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
 
RaginCajun41 said:
I won’t be as harsh as stevesmi, but he’s right Gluckintucker - if I had it to do over, I’d have never taken my first Testosterone Enanthate injection back in 1995. I was a 20yo immature kid who didn’t know the first thing about Steroids. All I wanted was to look like Mike Matarazzo from the first time I saw him on the cover of Muscular Development magazine. Fast forward to 2018 - I’ve been on Hormone Replacement Therapy for for 10 years, Blood Pressure medicine for 8 years, Cialis for 4 years, and just had to start Cholesterol med.’s last month. I get a thorough mandatory physical exam by my employer yearly, and there is abnormal noise indicating from my Left Ventricle, which I’m told by a Heart Specialist could be a Valve Problem caused by Heart Enlargement. So you see, when you hear us guys telling the younger guys not to do it - we are speaking from experience. AAS’s cause Chronic (long term) health issues, not many lasting Acute (short term) health problems. If you play in this game long enough, the health affects are irreversible.
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yup that is exactly what it is

people see a picture of someone they want to look like and want to look that way ASAP. the reality is that picture was photoshopped and taken at the guys peak. they also don't mention he has top .02% genetics. would be like having a picture of Tom brady and wanting to be a pro QB one day. realistically will never happen, hard enough to start at QB on your middle school team, much less in the NFL..

for us it was that, but for the young guys these days it is social media and these ridiculous transformations we see. they see a guy transform in 12 weeks and it is a huge ruse. this is a marathon
 
I think it is a terrible idea to use steroids at 20 but if you do it anyways, please do NOT use finasteride. You could really fuck up your dick. Is it worth a few lbs of extra muscle if you cant even function in the bedroom when you are with a girl?
 
stevesmi said:
you are making the worst mistake of your young life so far using steroids at your age.

are you aware of the dangers? dylan asked you above if you know about finasteride and your answer proved you are ignorant

finasteride is used by transexuals for a reason. you said it blocks DHT, do you even realize the dangers of doing that? you are simply not ready for steroids nor should you be using finasteride without knowing all the facts

if you go through with this at best your dick will not work at 25, you will have to run to the drawer to take a dick pill just to fuck a chick.. how embarassing for a guy to not be able to get it up and the girl will think you are a beta cuck. don't do it man
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Oh wow I did not know transsexual used this. That is a big scare. Thanks you for the input, I’ll be putting off with my cycle for now, maybe a couple more years of research. And when I do probably won’t include Finasteride.

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RaginCajun41 said:
I won’t be as harsh as stevesmi, but he’s right Gluckintucker - if I had it to do over, I’d have never taken my first Testosterone Enanthate injection back in 1995. I was a 20yo immature kid who didn’t know the first thing about Steroids. All I wanted was to look like Mike Matarazzo from the first time I saw him on the cover of Muscular Development magazine. Fast forward to 2018 - I’ve been on Hormone Replacement Therapy for for 10 years, Blood Pressure medicine for 8 years, Cialis for 4 years, and just had to start Cholesterol med.’s last month. I get a thorough mandatory physical exam by my employer yearly, and there is abnormal noise indicating from my Left Ventricle, which I’m told by a Heart Specialist could be a Valve Problem caused by Heart Enlargement. So you see, when you hear us guys telling the younger guys not to do it - we are speaking from experience. AAS’s cause Chronic (long term) health issues, not many lasting Acute (short term) health problems. If you play in this game long enough, the health affects are irreversible.
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Yeah after the overwhelming response from others, I’ll be waiting at least till I’m 25-26(is this “safer”?). I don’t want to have problems long term, too expensive for me. Thanks friend. When should I start in your opinion?

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cartm9 said:
Still way too young man. 4 years isn't that long and there's no way you've been dieting, recovering and training properly for even half of those 4 years. If you even are right now. Just seeing how you have a 6 days on 1 day off split and complaining about slow progress it's pretty evident you're either not training with the required intensity or recovering well enough.

You are not even close to your genetic limit yet and are still growing at only 20 yo. Why shut yourself down now when you have so much more room to improve without gear?

Just keep working hard in the gym if progress has slowed try out a different program but really stick to it or try alternative exercises. Personally I would train with more intensity, drop down to a 3 day split such as ppl 3 on 1 off or focus on strength with a 1 on 1 off full body.

Itll be a huge mistake jumping on now.

Also If you want to cut do it naturally no need for gear you'd get better results starting while lean anyways.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
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That seems to be the general consensus here. You guys have persuaded me to stay natural atleast another 20lbs. Thanks for the save.

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Masonic Bodybuilder said:
I think it is a terrible idea to use steroids at 20 but if you do it anyways, please do NOT use finasteride. You could really fuck up your dick. Is it worth a few lbs of extra muscle if you cant even function in the bedroom when you are with a girl?
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To answer your question, no I definitely want my dick working for life. I will certainly be waiting till I’m older now, major scares that made me rethink. But hey that’s what the forum is for! Glad I asked, now when would be a more mature/safe age?

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dylangemelli said:
please watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VagZos2m7fc
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Dylan you struck home. I started bodybuilding because I like to see the long term gains, I knew I had to be patient. I just got really discouraged recently. Thank you though, I’ll be staying natural till I’m 25-26. Unless you think I should wait even longer?
 
Brother that’s what a true forum should be like, getting honest advice and feedback from honest people. Are Steroids bad for you, yes, but they are safer than street Drugs, Pain Pills, and all that other shit if used modestly and wisely. The hard part about Steroids is see the results and wanting more, which leads to increased dosages and long term use - that’s where your health problems arise from - I know because I’ve done it and still continue to do it. If my honesty can persuade the younger guys to not use this stuff, or at least not abuse it, then I’ve done my job.
 
Gluckintucker said:
Oh wow I did not know transsexual used this. That is a big scare. Thanks you for the input, I’ll be putting off with my cycle for now, maybe a couple more years of research. And when I do probably won’t include Finasteride.

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Yeah after the overwhelming response from others, I’ll be waiting at least till I’m 25-26(is this “safer”?). I don’t want to have problems long term, too expensive for me. Thanks friend. When should I start in your opinion?

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That seems to be the general consensus here. You guys have persuaded me to stay natural atleast another 20lbs. Thanks for the save.

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To answer your question, no I definitely want my dick working for life. I will certainly be waiting till I’m older now, major scares that made me rethink. But hey that’s what the forum is for! Glad I asked, now when would be a more mature/safe age?

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Dylan you struck home. I started bodybuilding because I like to see the long term gains, I knew I had to be patient. I just got really discouraged recently. Thank you though, I’ll be staying natural till I’m 25-26. Unless you think I should wait even longer?
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you just earned a lot of respect bro... 25 is the youngest i would go but i really dont like that either to be honest... i prefer to see guys wait until they are in their later 20's at least...
 
Gluckintucker said:
Oh wow I did not know transsexual used this. That is a big scare. Thanks you for the input, I’ll be putting off with my cycle for now, maybe a couple more years of research. And when I do probably won’t include Finasteride.

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Yeah after the overwhelming response from others, I’ll be waiting at least till I’m 25-26(is this “safer”?). I don’t want to have problems long term, too expensive for me. Thanks friend. When should I start in your opinion?

- - - Updated - - -



That seems to be the general consensus here. You guys have persuaded me to stay natural atleast another 20lbs. Thanks for the save.

- - - Updated - - -



To answer your question, no I definitely want my dick working for life. I will certainly be waiting till I’m older now, major scares that made me rethink. But hey that’s what the forum is for! Glad I asked, now when would be a more mature/safe age?

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Dylan you struck home. I started bodybuilding because I like to see the long term gains, I knew I had to be patient. I just got really discouraged recently. Thank you though, I’ll be staying natural till I’m 25-26. Unless you think I should wait even longer?
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A man is going through puberty until he is about 23 years old. I don't recommend starting a steroid cycle until you are around 25.

At 25, most guys have ALOT going on. They just finished school and are looking for a career, thinking about starting a family etc etc. There is no rush to start a steroid cycle. I would wait until you are at least 25 and have a comfortable lifestyle so you can really benefit from the cycle
 
The issue: The problems with individuals that had not yet attained full physio-sexual development, is that that anabolic compounds are acting on locations within the central nervous system that are still under development. That is, that many receptors that are activated by Testosterone are STILL performing developmental functions, and you are stimulating them before they had the chance to fully create a working framework of hormonal balance that would sustain you for the rest of your adult life.
 
stevesmi said:
you are making the worst mistake of your young life so far using steroids at your age.

are you aware of the dangers? dylan asked you above if you know about finasteride and your answer proved you are ignorant

finasteride is used by transexuals for a reason. you said it blocks DHT, do you even realize the dangers of doing that? you are simply not ready for steroids nor should you be using finasteride without knowing all the facts

if you go through with this at best your dick will not work at 25, you will have to run to the drawer to take a dick pill just to fuck a chick.. how embarassing for a guy to not be able to get it up and the girl will think you are a beta cuck. don't do it man
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even IF my normal test level is only 380 ng/dl at THAT age? can't I just take test E only just to get my level back to normal? ( normal range: 300 - 1200 for adult if you are lazy to do some search )
 
agu4004 said:
even IF my normal test level is only 380 ng/dl at THAT age? can't I just take test E only just to get my level back to normal? ( normal range: 300 - 1200 for adult if you are lazy to do some search )
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you dont get it whatsoever.. running a cycle is only going to suppress you more, not get your level back up... trt is what would keep it consistent and staying up in a higher range... and thats only for MEDICAL conditions.. you clearly have no understanding of how this actually works and that can only hurt you
 
agu4004 - yes, you can take Test E (or any for that matter) to get your level back to normal....then what? Like Dylangemelli said, you have be on TRT to maintain that level and then you need to be monitoring a lot more than just your Test levels. You need to get bloodwork done and understand it. You need to keep your Estradiol in check. Taking Test is going to make your E levels spike once you stop (and even while you are taking it, it may spike). Dude, you're going to be all F'd up and this will hurt you. It'll hurt your health, both sexually and physically. Then once you have those 2 areas in the shitter, guess what? Your mental health also deteriorates...depression sets in, you grow bitch tits, etc...
 
ha! Good point, Santa. The only caveat to that is I am sure most of the serious guys here know more than most endos. What I mean by that is there is something to tried and true broscience. Just have to be smart enough to weed through the BS and be a sponge at the same time. The problem with endos is some don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. I knew a dude who went to get "TRT" and they gave him 100mg of Test Cyp every 2 weeks. I told him to fire that moron and find an endo that knows WTF they are doing. If you can read you can pretty much be smart enough to at least quasi-self diagnose and understand that what that prescription was is total crap. I'm not at all discouraging seeing an endo, I'm just saying you have to find the right one. I guess that goes to show for any doctor really. There are some docs out there that would still rather give you an opiod vs getting to the root of the problem. To me, those are shit doctors.
 
RaginCajun41 said:
It’s been proven with extensive blood work that Long Acting Esters like Cypionate and Enanthate maintain optimal (less of a roller coaster effect) if you inject every 5-days. There are plenty of people out their that pin once a week with Long Acting Esters and see great results as well. But if we’re talking maintaining Peek Hormone Blood Serum Levels, Every 5-days is spot on.

As far as the dosage, it’s all body weight and experience dependent. Not sure about your body stats and age, but I ALWAYS recommend to first time users to start out with a 200/mg every 5-days dosage schedule. If money is a concern and your wanting to stretch our each Vial to the fullest, 200/mg once a week will give you some good results that you’ be happy about. I would never recommend starting out at 350/400/500mg a week for a first timer - see how your body responds to the lower doses and work your way up each cycle. Always try and use this logic - What dosage gives “me” my best gains with the least side effects.
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How does Sustanon compare to the longer esters like Cypionate and Enanthate when aiming for less of a rollercoaster effect?
 
ZekePrime said:
How does Sustanon compare to the longer esters like Cypionate and Enanthate when aiming for less of a rollercoaster effect?
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@ZekePrime welcome to the EVO family:)

sustanon isn’t much better than enanthate or cyp, after all few shots the half life overlaps and there is no point to having short esters with extra PiP.

What’s your cycle plan? Please tell us
 
ZekePrime said:
I’m currently still researching but plan on taking 250mg Sustanon and 1500ui of HCG.

I was hoping this would help with more stable levels, and mitigate acne. Normally just do a 12 week test e, however acne becomes a problem by week 3-4.

And the HCG is to help my fertility while on gear.
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@ZekePrime HCG is highly estrogenic, so person to person its different

Read:
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

Stable testosterone or E2 levels wont mitigate acne for the most part either btw.

The issue here is you need to properly prep the cycle without reading a 1000 different posts. To do that you need to share with the EVO family to get actual guidance.

Asked you to start a LOG already check this post
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...cycle-affecting-fertility.102727/post-1672735

Can you start one now? so we can actually guide you.

LevButlerov said:
@ZekePrime i checked your post in supplements and wanted to move into this discussion here.

Listen the honest truth is that its too hard to guess and answer deep questions like this without knowing more about you.
Like a lot more.
can you do a cycle and have a kid? well 100% because many pros have kids.
But can YOU personally? not sure and we need you to share first before we assume anything.
how?
you need to start a LOG journal with your current routine diet training cardio and more about you and we will help you and guide you into a clean TRT
its easy start a new thread 15-20min of your time

HOW TO
To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training Diet cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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