Honest Cycle Advice

[dylangemelli]

Good luck with everyone.. I definitely cannot help.. its just all wrong from a health standpoint both short and long term... while it is absolutely awesome that you have taken control and have yourself moving in the right direction with your weight, you are actually going backwards on overall health for a multitude of reasons...

the doses are so far past excessive its insane..

your body fat, even at this point, is far too high to use steroids and puts you at such a greater risk of issues later

using clen is going to backfire in a major way.. not only is it likely going to cause short and long term heart problems but it also often leaves people gaining back weight it helped them lose being you cannot run it long term..

i really wish you nothing but the best but this is just going to end up being a huge health mess for you and anyone encouraging you to use in the condition you are in on top of the doses should be ashamed

 

[Fella Finn]

I would really listen to Dylan's advice as he is really spot on. These are dangerously high doses coupled with a high body fat and you are not going to have anything good from it. You may seem and feel okay right now but you are not realizing the longer term ramifications from what you are doing

 

[25homes]

waayyyyy tooo much tren bro dont do it

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Great job with your progress so far! Honestly, I would just focus on cutting and not running steroids. You can use some Cardarine but really focus on diet to get lean. You will be amazed at how much bigger you will look even though you will obviously lose weight (including some muscle). Check out sarms.forsale and Umbrella Labs if you decide to run the Cardarine. 20mg per day for 12-16 weeks is what I recommend. No need for PCT at all either.

 

[ballin2504]

The guys got you

 

[Topps_Baseball88]

I'm confused at the body fat % 21% at 249lbs ? I'm 15 % at 217lbs and we are right around the same height also gear is way high man try and decrease it for health

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

I'm confused at the body fat % 21% at 249lbs ? I'm 15 % at 217lbs and we are right around the same height also gear is way high man try and decrease it for health

Body fat percentage is nearly impossible to estimate. I’d guess people are often off by 10% or more estimating their own. Compounding the problem, finding out what it really is is expensive, and not all that readily available. I’ve given up on even trying to guess mine, rather preferring to focus on whether I like what I see, and whether my health markers remain good.

FFMI is a good metric, though. The difference between the two numbers you mention is huge. 249/21% needs to have about 20 lbs more lean mass than 215/15%. That is a metric fuck ton of extra muscle, especially considering that somebody at 215 15% is carrying a substantial amount of muscle to begin with.

 

[MrPillowPantz]

Good luck with everyone.. I definitely cannot help.. its just all wrong from a health standpoint both short and long term... while it is absolutely awesome that you have taken control and have yourself moving in the right direction with your weight, you are actually going backwards on overall health for a multitude of reasons...

the doses are so far past excessive its insane..

your body fat, even at this point, is far too high to use steroids and puts you at such a greater risk of issues later

using clen is going to backfire in a major way.. not only is it likely going to cause short and long term heart problems but it also often leaves people gaining back weight it helped them lose being you cannot run it long term..

i really wish you nothing but the best but this is just going to end up being a huge health mess for you and anyone encouraging you to use in the condition you are in on top of the doses should be ashamed

If you were my coach, At this point where I am right now, What would you have me do? Im getting alot of feedback from friends to bulk then cut. I feel like I want to keep cutting to get down to 12-15% for a health point, and how would you do it? My diet is clean and I count macros daily. Im eating my maintenance off my BMR calculator.

 

[MrPillowPantz]

Body fat percentage is nearly impossible to estimate. I’d guess people are often off by 10% or more estimating their own. Compounding the problem, finding out what it really is is expensive, and not all that readily available. I’ve given up on even trying to guess mine, rather preferring to focus on whether I like what I see, and whether my health markers remain good.

FFMI is a good metric, though. The difference between the two numbers you mention is huge. 249/21% needs to have about 20 lbs more lean mass than 215/15%. That is a metric fuck ton of extra muscle, especially considering that somebody at 215 15% is carrying a substantial amount of muscle to begin with.

There is a local supplement shop that has a scale that "scans" my body for it. Thats what Im basing my numbers off of. I cant tell you if its 100%

 

[dylangemelli]

If you were my coach, At this point where I am right now, What would you have me do? Im getting alot of feedback from friends to bulk then cut. I feel like I want to keep cutting to get down to 12-15% for a health point, and how would you do it? My diet is clean and I count macros daily. Im eating my maintenance off my BMR calculator.

anyone telling you to bulk, with an already excessive body fat, is NO FRIEND to you at all.. thats HORRIFIC advice to say the least...

obviously it continues with busting your ass in the gym, cardio 5 days a week, 45 minutes per day.. mix of steady state and HIIT and then continuously working on and improving your diet...

i would look at a sarms cutting stack at this point which will help you lose the body fat at a more rapid rate... you definitely want to get to the 12-15 range as its a far far more healthy range and thats an acceptable range to move on to anabolics if you still feel the need to do so...

here is a strong sarms cutting cycle...


for the best quality sarms visit either https://umbrellalabs.is or https://sarms.forsale

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[MrPillowPantz]

anyone telling you to bulk, with an already excessive body fat, is NO FRIEND to you at all.. thats HORRIFIC advice to say the least...

obviously it continues with busting your ass in the gym, cardio 5 days a week, 45 minutes per day.. mix of steady state and HIIT and then continuously working on and improving your diet...

i would look at a sarms cutting stack at this point which will help you lose the body fat at a more rapid rate... you definitely want to get to the 12-15 range as its a far far more healthy range and thats an acceptable range to move on to anabolics if you still feel the need to do so...

here is a strong sarms cutting cycle...


for the best quality sarms visit either https://umbrellalabs.is or https://sarms.forsale

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Sr9009 (STENABOLIC) 30 mg day... 10 mg doses 4-5 hours apart
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

That stacks based on them sites are over $1200 for a 12 week stack. That seems alot for SARM's when no one else I have seen on here push them. I mean I got the money but I also thought why not do the real stuff for that much cash and get better benefits out of it if my blood work comes back good. Im just trying to understand it I guess. Either way, I really appreciate the feedback. All information to me in good information.

 

[dylangemelli]

That stacks based on them sites are over $1200 for a 12 week stack. That seems alot for SARM's when no one else I have seen on here push them. I mean I got the money but I also thought why not do the real stuff for that much cash and get better benefits out of it if my blood work comes back good. Im just trying to understand it I guess. Either way, I really appreciate the feedback. All information to me in good information.

You should always do what you are comfortable with... you being advised steroid use is absolutely insane and shows a lack of care and trying to get you just spend money.. you can run smaller sarms cutting cycles or just continue going natural with your work that you have already done a good job on.. i attempted to save you from certain short and long term problems.. I provide the strongest layouts to get the most results with minimal side effects...

also, myself, steve, rick and mobster have been doing this well over a decade now and have far more experience than most on here... not all , but most.. some people throw around random dangerous and bull shit advice that will likely only get you hurt...

on the prices...

you need

3 bottles each of gw, rad, s4 and sr and i would go with poly cell

3 of rad is 234

3 of s4 is 234

3 of sr is 234

3 of gw is 234

total is 936

you get 20% off orders over 200 dollars

so that makes it 800 for the order

so that makes it $265 a month to run a 4 compound sarms stack that is far safer, far more effective and will get you into far better condition at a much more rapid rate

 

[MrPillowPantz]

You should always do what you are comfortable with... you being advised steroid use is absolutely insane and shows a lack of care and trying to get you just spend money.. you can run smaller sarms cutting cycles or just continue going natural with your work that you have already done a good job on.. i attempted to save you from certain short and long term problems.. I provide the strongest layouts to get the most results with minimal side effects...

also, myself, steve, rick and mobster have been doing this well over a decade now and have far more experience than most on here... not all , but most.. some people throw around random dangerous and bull shit advice that will likely only get you hurt...

on the prices...

you need

3 bottles each of gw, rad, s4 and sr and i would go with poly cell

3 of rad is 234

3 of s4 is 234

3 of sr is 234

3 of gw is 234

total is 936

you get 20% off orders over 200 dollars

so that makes it 800 for the order

so that makes it $265 a month to run a 4 compound sarms stack that is far safer, far more effective and will get you into far better condition at a much more rapid rate

Im about to do a full blood work panel tm. I should have it back in about 1 week. I can post it here? Do yall know how to decipher it?

My diet is on point. Im eating my maint cal right now at 3000 cal. Im eating about 240-250g protein every day. 6-8 eggs for omegas included. under 120 carbs. No sugars. Also. I do zero cardio. LOL. I feel like Im going to die after 5 minutes on the stair climber. I have a home gym with a air assault bike in there. I can start doing that every morning fasted.

I dont alot of greens but I supplement with greens powder. Ive been off gear for 2 months. I want to do it right. I will order this today then start a log as soon as I get them in.

 

[dylangemelli]

Im about to do a full blood work panel tm. I should have it back in about 1 week. I can post it here? Do yall know how to decipher it?

My diet is on point. Im eating my maint cal right now at 3000 cal. Im eating about 240-250g protein every day. 6-8 eggs for omegas included. under 120 carbs. No sugars. Also. I do zero cardio. LOL. I feel like Im going to die after 5 minutes on the stair climber. I have a home gym with a air assault bike in there. I can start doing that every morning fasted.

I dont alot of greens but I supplement with greens powder. Ive been off gear for 2 months. I want to do it right. I will order this today then start a log as soon as I get them in.

you can post it here.. regardless of the bloodwork, that has no bearing given your body fat with steroid use bro.. i cannot stress that enough.. at a higher body fat where you are, you are FAR more susceptible to a wide array of side effects and anyone advising you to use them at your current body fat should be ashamed of themselves, not to mention the sever lack of cardio, which not only effects your overall health, but also would contribute to being in far better condition.. GW501516 and SR9009 are DIRECTLY aimed at improving cardio and metabolism, on top of gw benefiting cholesterol and blood pressure, which you are FAR more susceptible to having issues with at a higher body fat