New Member Introduction

[Jgainz]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

 

[s.gentz]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Welcome @Jgainz
Personally I would get your TRT dialed in before adding anything especially if you have Dr bloodwork to deal with. Once your bloods move to 6mos apart then you can start experimenting and have enough time to get bloodwork back in check.

 

[Jgainz]

Welcome @Jgainz
Personally I would get your TRT dialed in before adding anything especially if you have Dr bloodwork to deal with. Once your bloods move to 6mos apart then you can start experimenting and have enough time to get bloodwork back in check.

Well that sounds entirely way too logical!
Thanks for the good advice.
So I understand, are you saying get my bloodwork back in check so nothing shows up in my Dr drawn bloodwork? I would keep him in the loop for whatever I try. He’s non-judgemental and would just want to make sure my numbers are all okay.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

welcome to the EVO family @Jgainz Good start getting your health back but we need a proper TRT log first because we do not know anything about your labs food or training yet. Once you post that dial in we can talk about adding anything because even light anavar needs context before we advise you. Will take you 15min to get it up.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

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[Allupfromhere]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Nice brother proud of you taking back control of your lifestyle and health.

As @LevButlerov mention a log here is a perfect opportunity to dial you in not just with aas's but with your training, nutrition and overall health.

It helps us paint a clearer picture of where your at and how to best help you. Check @LevButlerov post above

Welcome to Evo brother

 

[Dreamer]

As said above - I would dial in first, battling e2 is no fun and it gets harder the more you add to it, but yes get some bloods and share them here on Evo with your name blurred - plenty of people to help and guide - Welcome

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

get the dose in check - personally my TRT dose of 150mg/week kept E2 in check but levels around 1100+, probably a bit much for TRT so I dialled back to 125mg.
I think a nice first cycle would be 300mg T and the Var as you suggested - you will notice a nice change - say 12 weeks then back to TRT and your bloods should be good. May need an AI if you are a high converter.
My Doc knows that I self TRT (after initial prescribed) and he is happy to monitor my bloods for me - sounds like yours might be similar.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Welcome to EVO brother!

Ok bro, if I've ever recommended someone look at my log it's gonna be you man! It's in my signature attached to all my posts on here. I'm the exact same and used to a fat hot mess myself! I even posted pics of my big whale belly on page 1 of my log, before and after pics! There's no judgement here so if you wanna see what I look like after night binging a family size bag of Doritos in the middle of the night the picture of my bloated whale belly in the morning is in my log too! I went from 270lbs down to 190lbs (using keto and no extra AAS except for TRT same dose as you at that time!) then up to 220lbs (using Test and anadrol and I think that time maybe Deca can't recall). Point is, it never looked good and I never really got strong. I injured my tendons, tore them actually and came on here (had been a member a while but just making hit and run reads of some posts and never replying or asking questions that I recall) and as soon as I came on here for real and my tendon injury took me down to 188lbs I got myself up to 205lbs using every single bit of advice I got on here and I look 10x better than I have in years (like probably 10 years) and am just as strong now as I was when I was in my 30's and running gear but not at the detailed level I do now with the help of EVO.

Point being: Once you start a log and we get an idea of your diet, training, macros, TRT with bloodwork if you're able (I'm posting my bloodwork tomorrow), then we can laser focus in on the best AAS for you to add to your TRT. Your TRT should be super in check first and we'd know that by bloodwork (it's a cheap way to reassure yourself you're in a healthy spot to add in some AAS and for us to gauge what would work for you).

Also, and about HCG. I'm not a fan especially for guys our age. I like call it "estrogen in a vial/bottle". You're not having kids anymore so who cares about your balls anymore when all HCG does it spike your e2 levels (estrogen) which are NOT good for us older guys = fat not mess again LOL, and all for the sake of your balls feeling a bit bigger? We have identified a supplement that works just as well and it's called HCGenerate and we can look at that once your log is up.

I'd run your TRT for 4 weeks, no HCG and get bloodwork, meanwhile post your log and get that up and running and we'll dial you in for a great cycle especially if you have some years under your belt at 5 days/week. You'll have to post a pic of yourself too, something like mine or the other guys you see on here.

Let's go my fellow 49-year old!!!! Happy to have you hear bro! When we turn 50 we can post pics that make the Millenials drool and wish they had our build!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Well that sounds entirely way too logical!
Thanks for the good advice.
So I understand, are you saying get my bloodwork back in check so nothing shows up in my Dr drawn bloodwork? I would keep him in the loop for whatever I try. He’s non-judgemental and would just want to make sure my numbers are all okay.

Yes I am also always honest with my doc even when my testosterone comes back as literally "out of range" and off the charts. He'll ask me how much I'm using and I'll say 800mg of Test and he'll just say mmmkay let's do bloods when you're back to TRT dosing and make sure everything looks back to baseline LOL. A lot of people are afraid to be honest with their docs but they have a duty to supervise us and provide care.

 

[stevesmi]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Glad to have you on here, man. I'm glad you liked the forum so far. Hopefully you can dig in and stay around a while.

 

[Jgainz]

Thanks for the warm welcome! I’m due for labs soon and will update as soon as I have them.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks for the warm welcome! I’m due for labs soon and will update as soon as I have them.

This is great @Jgainz! Take screenshots and black out your private info and post here. You’re off to a great start let’s get you in even better shape! I need it too let’s start a 2026 log together.

 

[Pigsy]

Great place to start is logging on EVO. So much support here

 

[Nasser1997o2]

If you’re done with kids, bail on the hcg.

I had the snip before I got on TRT. My shit doesn’t work at all and GOOD!

It’s testosterone REPLACEMENT therapy. We are replacing our feminist test levels with levels us kings deserve.

Our nuts can be decoration.

 

[waggat]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Hey mate, good that you're getting back on track with lifting etc. Can you share some typical workouts including exercises and weights used?

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

If you’re done with kids, bail on the hcg.

I had the snip before I got on TRT. My shit doesn’t work at all and GOOD!

It’s testosterone REPLACEMENT therapy. We are replacing our feminist test levels with levels us kings deserve.

Our nuts can be decoration.

agreed - I have had the snip too and haven't noticed any testicular shrinkage at all.

 

[HarleyGuy]

agreed - I have had the snip too and haven't noticed any testicular shrinkage at all.

I had a bit but HCG never helped it just spiked my e2.

 

[LevButlerov]

I had a bit but HCG never helped it just spiked my e2.

HCG is highly estrogenic.

 

[HarleyGuy]

HCG is highly estrogenic.

Like I say on every log I can find where they wanna HCG with their cycle, it's like estrogen in a vial. No need.

 

[Mobster]

Yeah not a fan. It's just a ball plumper for most and my ID doesn't need bigger balls. Plus they never really shrunk on cycle

 

[Nasser1997o2]

Yeah not a fan. It's just a ball plumper for most and my ID doesn't need bigger balls. Plus they never really shrunk on cycle

I need all the help I can get.

Smaller balls makes the main attraction look bigger

 

[s.gentz]

Well that sounds entirely way too logical!
Thanks for the good advice.
So I understand, are you saying get my bloodwork back in check so nothing shows up in my Dr drawn bloodwork? I would keep him in the loop for whatever I try. He’s non-judgemental and would just want to make sure my numbers are all okay.

Correct. That is what i'm saying. It's great to keep Doc abreast of what you are doing but keep in mind they also have a responsibility for you health/safety so make sure they are not gonna stop your TRT if you stray outside of scripted drugs. My Doc will not renew my script if he knows i'm doing mower than I am supposed to and then I need to start all over again with 3 month bloods and all that stuff.

 

[Noah Wixx]

As said above - I would dial in first, battling e2 is no fun and it gets harder the more you add to it, but yes get some bloods and share them here on Evo with your name blurred - plenty of people to help and guide - Welcome

100% agreed

 

[2Thick]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

there is an argument to be made that hcg doesn't improve fertility. its been shown in many cases to actually cause a drop

 

[Ulter]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

When it comes to Anavar you won't go wrong as a man going with 20 or 30 mg a day. That's a great idea.

 

[ceo]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

bros get a log going then. 10mgs pointless if you a man IMO. run atleast 20-30mgs

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

It's an honor to have you on here, man. We have a lot of success stories from guys. I hope that you will get a lot going and check out their logs as well. Also check out the podcast.

 

[ballin2504]

Welcome aboard the forum man. Glad to have you here

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Hoping you start up a log bro .... waiting. EVO has your back.

 

[BeMe]

Hi everyone,
Apologies if I’m posting in the wrong sub forum. I’m brand new here. I’m a 49 year old guy. I was athletic and active decades ago but got fat and lazy. I’ve spent the past few years getting myself back on track lifting 5 days/week and have greatly improved my health/body composition.
I started Dr prescribed TRT about 8 months ago. i’m on 100mg/week and some HcG to keep my tackle looking good. I was on a higher dose but my total T and estradiol were both high. Still getting it dialed in.
Anyway, I’m interested in exploring the AAS world but thinking of starting with a very conservative dose of anavar. Maybe even just 10-20mg 3/week before heavy workouts. Take a few days in between doses to try and not mess up my lipids. i’m wondering if anybody else here has used it similarly and what, if any, gains you had.
Anyway, thanks to whomever is running this place and everyone else here helping cut through so much of the misinformation out there.

Hey bro welcome to the family! Great intro.

What's the problem you guys are having dialing in the TRT? I'd have thought after 8 months it would be figured no problem. What's your doc got you doing?

Usually what you would do is adjust the dose and check bloods after 6 weeks to see where you're at..then adjust again and so on. By my count you should've done atleast 5 sets of bloods by now?