Overdosed it fine imo, even up to 10% range. Underdosing is a bigger issues for bodybuilders.eq could be slightly overdosed bro i aim for over 5% on each compound not enough to make much of a difference just to make sure you get your moneys worth
Overdosed it fine imo, even up to 10% range. Underdosing is a bigger issues for bodybuilders.eq could be slightly overdosed bro i aim for over 5% on each compound not enough to make much of a difference just to make sure you get your moneys worth
Thanks for your input R&D. Eq obviously works for me as an AI.eq could be slightly overdosed bro i aim for over 5% on each compound not enough to make much of a difference just to make sure you get your moneys worth
Going to take longer than 2 weeks due to eq being a long ester I would increase the test slightly if you want faster resultsThanks for your input R&D. Eq obviously works for me as an AI.
Not feeling it badly, but E2 is obviously low. Should I increase the Test to 600, drop the Eq completely for a week or two? Then reintroduce Eq at 300 - half my Test dose?
Any other suggestions greatly appreciated, first time with Eq and all is going well so would prefer to keep running it, assuming I can get a good balance with Test re.E2.
Spot on. Easiest solution.Going to take longer than 2 weeks due to eq being a long ester I would increase the test slightly if you want faster results
You feel the estrogen drop from EQ or did you do blood work for this?Thanks for your input R&D. Eq obviously works for me as an AI.
Not feeling it badly, but E2 is obviously low. Should I increase the Test to 600, drop the Eq completely for a week or two? Then reintroduce Eq at 300 - half my Test dose?
Any other suggestions greatly appreciated, first time with Eq and all is going well so would prefer to keep running it, assuming I can get a good balance with Test re.E2.
You liked his post of blood work a page previous.You feel the estrogen drop from EQ or did you do blood work for this?
Bloods on previous page broYou liked his post of blood work a page previous.
You should consider running a log @Peshay i will follow it
Found your bloodsYou feel the estrogen drop from EQ or did you do blood work for this?
I see it says <70 but reference ranges for pmol/l are usually 50-200. The issue if it’s 20 e2 vs 65 is a huge difference. You would make different adjustments in each case.Finished week 6 of current R&D cycle: Test 450 and 380 Eq pw. Daily Test/Eq injections. Drew bloods this morning(Monday) 24 hrs after Sunday injections:
Eq doing its job (perhaps a bit too well?keeping E2 in range
I was writing an update as you posted this.Bloods on previous page bro
Just Test and Eq. Have been taking Raloxifene 30mg pd while on this cycle. L-Carnitine 600mg pwo, Cialis, Modafinil and DMAA also pre workout.Are you on other anabolics? ai? Serms? Supplements? Please share more details. @Peshay
@Allupfromhere 100% agree, it would benefit @Peshay a lot to have EVO family support and guidance.
You should consider running a log @Peshay i will follow it
brother you should run a log for this cycle,
Thanks Eddie, would still love EVO guidance, if that’s not being too selfish.
@Peshay we respect your choices no matter what they are.Thanks Eddie, would still love EVO guidance, if that’s not being too selfish.
Thanks Eddie, would still love EVO guidance, if that’s not being too selfish.
Plan to increase Test from 470 pw to 600, with no Eq till there are signs of increased E2, either physically or via bloods.Going to take longer than 2 weeks due to eq being a long ester I would increase the test slightly if you want faster results
It would be best to keep testosterone the same and not pin any EQ.Plan to increase Test from 470 pw to 600, with no Eq till there are signs of increased E2, either physically or via bloods.
Thanks Wheelhouse87. Apart from being a bit too effective as an AI for me, have also enjoyed using Eq.Just jumping in on this one... I've found a new love for EQ after running it.
E2 levels in check, takes a while to get working but the lean mass gains are impressive with low sides (for myself anyway)
Have to agree thereIt would be best to keep testosterone the same and not pin any EQ.easier to control.
My happy e2 place with test, eq. Was 1ml test to 0.7ml eqThanks Wheelhouse87. Apart from being a bit too effective as an AI for me, have also enjoyed using Eq.
What sort of ratio of Test/Eq have you found worked for you.
Was just about to ask thisThanks Wheelhouse87. Apart from being a bit too effective as an AI for me, have also enjoyed using Eq.
What sort of ratio of Test/Eq have you found worked for you.
Was just about to ask thisdefiantly following along
Also just wanted to give a massive shoutout to DofRandD with amazing customer service and quality gear with awesome shipping time really appreciate you bro
Currently 0.6ml of test E 250 and 0.6 mastron E 200mg 3 times a week ( 450mg test e and 360mg mastron E)What cycle you running brother?![]()
Questioned pathologist about that his response:Correct if I'm wrong but it doesn't tell you your estrogen it just says less than 70.
Good point, nothing drastic to date, but assuming they may be on the way? Want to nip it in the bud given Eq is such a long lasting compound.Are you having symptoms of low estrogen? If not, why change anything?
400mg Test E and 300mg EQ broThanks Wheelhouse87. Apart from being a bit too effective as an AI for me, have also enjoyed using Eq.
What sort of ratio of Test/Eq have you found worked for you.
Did you get E2 tested on that?400mg Test E and 300mg EQ bro
I always had done and do LCMS tests for both testosterone and E2, takes 2 weeks for e2 but you have a precise number without it being screwed by other compounds as well.Questioned pathologist about that his response:
“The immunoassay won't read down to very low levels with E2. It gets too unreliable when e2 is very low. LCMS needs to be used for very low readings.
Regardless, Drs will say it is moot whether 70 or 40 as both are 'too low'”
Good point, nothing drastic to date, but assuming they may be on the way? Want to nip it in the bud given Eq is such a long lasting compound.
“Thanks but anything less than 70 is something that might need addressing, as per my query to pathologist , who responded:takes 2 weeks for e2 but you have a precise number
Yeh bro.. 2 weeks ago E2 sitting at 83Did you get E2 tested on that?
Thanks electus,
E2 in the 60s in not low btw, like @Eddie Haskell and @Pigsy said you can just drop the eq or you could up the test, the main point is to change just one variable at the time so that you have a better control and can adjust according to your finding (wheter to upp test or lower eq after your assessment).“Thanks but anything less than 70 is something that might need addressing, as per my query to pathologist , who responded:
“The immunoassay won't read down to very low levels with E2. It gets too unreliable when e2 is very low. LCMS needs to be used for very low readings.
Regardless, Drs will say it is moot whether 70 or 40 as both are 'too low' and it would not add any more clinically significant information to know. They would just treat the 'low' reading if they were going to etc. “
All that said, given I don’t believe I’m having terrible symptoms to date - no dry/achy joints. Im going to go with increasing Test from 475 to 600 immediately, while reducing Eq completely for two to three weeks then consider reintroducing Eq at 200-300
Great advice, but don’t really know it is in the 60’s, suspect I need a sensitive assay of E2 to get an accurate figure. Hope the pathologist still has my blood sampleE2 in the 60s in not low btw, like @Eddie Haskell and @Pigsy said you can just drop the eq or you could up the test, the main point is to change just one variable at the time so that you have a better control and can adjust according to your finding (wheter to upp test or lower eq after your assessment).
I suggest you to use imedical for bloodworks, just pay print the referral and you go to one of the clinics and you get the results by mail and on their site.Great advice, but don’t really know it is in the 60’s, suspect I need a sensitive assay of E2 to get an accurate figure. Hope the pathologist still has my blood sample
I used iMed originally, just emailed them to check they still have my sample. If so I’ll get it redone by ultra sensitive.I suggest you to use imedical for bloodworks, just pay print the referral and you go to one of the clinics and you get the results by mail and on their site.
Usually i do this one to have the free test but you can just do testosterone and e2 to spend less i guess.
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Nice number test number brother, you normally aromatise easily?Using R&D's Test E for TRT 175mg a week giving me some nice numbers might need to dial it down a bit for the E2. On a side note how good is Roidsafe had blood test results back within 24 hours!
Not sure bro I dropped my dose from 200 to 175mg last time to bring my Test levels down a bit but looks like they stayed the same and E2 went up. Just took some Aromasin and dropped my dose to 150mg will test again in a month or soNice number test number brother, you normally aromatise easily?
Yeah my E2 was in range last time on 1250 not sure what's happened all I added was 20mg Anavar and Retatrutide for a 6 week cut and didn't crash my SHBG150 has my test around 1400 (prob a bit high for trt) so next cruise I will drop to 125. E2 in check for me though at 150 with no AI.
Could always put a little primo in there
11/10 results on 175mg a week!Using R&D's Test E for TRT 175mg a week giving me some nice numbers might need to dial it down a bit for the E2. On a side note how good is Roidsafe had blood test results back within 24 hours!
Do you have any gyno flare ups or high e2 symptoms at 246 E2?Yeah my E2 was in range last time on 1250 not sure what's happened all I added was 20mg Anavar and Retatrutide for a 6 week cut and didn't crash my SHBG
Never had a problem with gyno but I haven't been sleeping as well and my blood pressure is a bit high but I just put it down to the Anavar. Have taken 25mg Aromasin and lowered the dose to 150mg so will see how that goes for the next 4 weeks or soDo you have any gyno flare ups or high e2 symptoms at 246 E2?
Mine as well but had to use 3:1 ratio primo to testCan vouch for @DofRandD s Primo
Kept my e2 perfect with no AI required
250 test 750 primo for a couple of monthsinteresting, what does were u running?
Fuck sounds like my ratio250 test 750 primo for a couple of months
thats a fair dose of primo right there!250 test 750 primo for a couple of months
YesYou going to use an AI?
Curious to know how you would dose a 10mg cap?
If i need i can half it from the cap, when you open them you can see the "powder" in the longest part of the cap and you just puor half of it somewhere else and you get 5mg.Curious to know how you would dose a 10mg cap?
That's a big dose of aromasin.. been some time since I done an AI, but I was only doing 0.5-0.75mg.If i need i can half it from the cap, when you open them you can see the "powder" in the longest part of the cap and you just puor half of it somewhere else and you get 5mg.
You can see the level on the cap if you look at the cap with some light behind.
Took 10mg last night and I peed all night, my mistake for taking it at night![]()
You might be getting it confused with Arimidex (Anastrozole). Pharma Aromasin usually comes in 25mg and alot of people halve them 12.5mg is a common doseThat's a big dose of aromasin.. been some time since I done an AI, but I was only doing 0.5-0.75mg.
Watch out for the joint pain.
That would be it. Thanks for clarifying.You might be getting it confused with Arimidex (Anastrozole). Pharma Aromasin usually comes in 25mg and alot of people halve them 12.5mg is a common dose
Think you need a more sensitive blood test next time.Half way through my cycle on @DofRandD oils and my recent blood work attest to the fact that their product is the real deal. I might also add they are great blokes to deal with.
Weekly cycle details: 420 mg Test E, 420 mg Primo, 350 mg NPP pinned EoD.
E2 is above target at present at 230 pmol/l, so will increase Primo dose to get into the acceptable range (100 pmol/l)
@DofRandD - please hit me up when primo is back in stock.
Cheers all.
Same thing happened when I got bloods done on NPP came back over 10k , was running 400 test 500 npp , definitely wasn't correct.Think you need a more sensitive blood test next time.
Test levels that high is very abnormal for what you’re taking
Nandrolone will show up as test on a blood test unless you get LCMSSame thing happened when I got bloods done on NPP came back over 10k , was running 400 test 500 npp , definitely wasn't correct.
you're welcome bro thanks for your reviewExcellent comms and next day delivery. Impressed with my first experience. Cheers
What else are you taking with the test lolVouch. Very quick delivery and fast responder. Can confirm the Test E 250 works. I accidentally glanced over the fact that they offer Test E 400. Would've saved myself a fair amount of money there. On a cycle of 500mg a week. On week 5 of cycle and last pin was 2 days ago. Here are my blood test: View attachment 75372
Agree numbers seem way higher than just 500mg Test a weekWhat else are you taking with the test lol
That’s why too high for 500 test
Agree numbers seem way higher than just 500mg Test a week
Nothing else. I think someone in the thread previously stated the need for a more sensitive test. I think that might be why, but considering everyone uses iMedical and would've had similar results I'm not too sure.What else are you taking with the test lol
That’s why too high for 500 test
Those numbers on 500 is absolutely wild that’s more like 1g test lolNothing else. I think someone in the thread previously stated the need for a more sensitive test. I think that might be why, but considering everyone uses iMedical and would've had similar results I'm not too sure.
Vouch. Very quick delivery and fast responder. Can confirm the Test E 250 works. I accidentally glanced over the fact that they offer Test E 400. Would've saved myself a fair amount of money there. On a cycle of 500mg a week. On week 5 of cycle and last pin was 2 days ago. Here are my blood test: View attachment 75372
Hahaha yeah. No idea if my body just responds well as it's my first cycle. Makes sense why my E2 was 730 pmol.Those numbers on 500 is absolutely wild that’s more like 1g test lol
500 should only have you around 90-100 test and over 2000 total.
Any spicy nips as 730 pmol ? My pmol hit 303 for bit and I freaked out/ added masin, maybe I jumped the gun. First TRT+ for me.Hahaha yeah. No idea if my body just responds well as it's my first cycle. Makes sense why my E2 was 730 pmol.
I started getting insomnia around 250pmol so took an Aromasin and dialled my dose back to 150mg. Still not sleeping well not sure if it's that or the Retatrutide will get bloods in another week to seeAny spicy nips as 730 pmol ? My pmol hit 303 for bit and I freaked out/ added masin, maybe I jumped the gun. First TRT+ for me.
I started getting insomnia around 250pmol so took an Aromasin and dialled my dose back to 150mg. Still not sleeping well not sure if it's that or the Retatrutide will get bloods in another week to see
Good to know it'll definitely be my E2 then hopefully I can dial it in lower without needing an AI. My test level was 1250 on 175mg so can definitely come down a bitiv been Reta for about 6 months. No insomnia my way and on fairly high dose now. 9 to 10 mg a week.
Hey brother I get insomnia if I ramp up reta to fast, you mite find pushing your next dose back afew days will help its what I've had to do twiceI started getting insomnia around 250pmol so took an Aromasin and dialled my dose back to 150mg. Still not sleeping well not sure if it's that or the Retatrutide will get bloods in another week to see
I had much less on a gram it was like 89 or somethingThose numbers on 500 is absolutely wild that’s more like 1g test lol![]()
500 should only have you around 90-100 test and over 2000 total.
I had 89 on 500! was stoked with thatI had much less on a gram it was like 89 or something
Because they're not doing LCMS tests that's why.I had 89 on 500! was stoked with thatthese results are just absolutely wild
I don't think you need LCMS for testosterone unless you're running nandrolone as well
appreciate you leaving a review broThanks R&D got the goods in 2 days, first shot of 250 test very smooth injection. Went out of their way to provide extra help to me which I appreciate a lot. Will leave another review in a few weeks when the wheels are turning a bit more. Happy with the service for sure
what was your shbg at? could be bottomed out also... Im messing with sarms atm so who knows how low mine has been hahaI should do another test soon
Sorry for the late reply. None at all. I'm really confused though. I've read about guys getting 1/3 what I had and getting spicy nips. But I had no side effects at all. I'm on asin 10mg 3x week a now, so maybe it was going to happen soon.Any spicy nips as 730 pmol ? My pmol hit 303 for bit and I freaked out/ added masin, maybe I jumped the gun. First TRT+ for me.
It's all personalised from one individual to the next, keep in mind we're not meant to stay at high e2 for extended lengths of time even without sides. There are other long term implications that can happen.Sorry for the late reply. None at all. I'm really confused though. I've read about guys getting 1/3 what I had and getting spicy nips. But I had no side effects at all. I'm on asin 10mg 3x week a now, so maybe it was going to happen soon
I’m no expert but in WA non LCMS test doesn’t show e2 below 100 nmol - just says <100 which is pain cos 1 and 90 is difference between crash and no crash.I don't think you need LCMS for testosterone unless you're running nandrolone as well
Excellent point. How annoying also the fact you're paying extra to have LCMS done and yet they don't even give you an exact readingI’m no expert but in WA non LCMS test doesn’t show e2 below 100 nmol - just says <100 which is pain cos 1 and 90 is difference between crash and no crash.
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