Approved Log First Cycle 250mg Testosterone Enanthate Log

[Going2theO]

G'day Legends,

I'm new to this forum and I am hoping to be pointed in the right direction throughout the course of my journey, by none other than you blokes.

I am 24 years old, from Sydney I've been training since I was 18, for 3 of those years it wasn't anything fancy just a garage setup with a bench and a few dumbbells. It wasn't until the start of 2023 I really ramped up training and joined a gym. Couple years on I've reached a point in the works where I'd like to compete one day and see how far I can take this. Training and diet have been on point for over a year.

As mentioned in the thread title, this will be my first cycle of 250mg Test E, special mention to @R&Dpharma for supplying my gear. I have no experience when it comes to pinning so all opinions and advice are very much appreciated. Waiting for blood results to come in hopefully this week. Being a pretty active and healthy 24 year old, I see no reason as to why my baseline wouldn't be in normal range.

Information:
- Age: 24
- Height: 192cm
- Weight: 79kg
- Body Fat %: Unsure
- Training Experience: 6 Years

Training:
MONDAY PUSH/TUESDAY PULL/ WEDNESDAY LEGS/ THURSDAY PUSH/ FRIDAY PULL/ SATURDAY LEGS/ SUNDAY - REST
I will get a comprehensive split uploading on here detailing my reps/sets with weight.

Diet:
Daily Cals - Fluctuates 3200-3500 (depending on if i can get an extra feed in during the day at work)
Will upload meal plan on here at a later stage just wanted to get a thread started
Macro: C390 | P180 | F120
Water intake: 3L day

Vits: Mens multivitamin daily. Omega 3 daily (Any other recommendations appreciated)

Supps:
Creatine 5g daily with pre
Pre: 1 scoop of DVST8 Inspired 30mins before workout
Precision mass 1 scoop (twice a day)

Blood work:
Awaiting results
Should I get bloods done mid-cycle & post for my first cycle of 250test E or just at the end (How long after??)

Cycle plan:
See how I react to 250g Test E. Build up on 2nd cycle.

Compounds planned for use: Test E to begin with. (What would you recommend for the second cycle? pretty open to try anything)

Cycle Length: 12 weeks

PCT Help is needed. What do you recommend? Should I be taking orals during?

Additional Notes/Goals:
Just keen to take this shit to the next level and lock TF in. No excuses now.
Heres a pic of my current physique.

Look forward to hearing from you guys, everything is appreciated.

 

[R&Dpharma]

@electus
@I Need it
@Rogue888

 

[electus]

Hi bro, before starting using PEDS I've done this bloodworks(see attachment) just to know where my baseline was and I've tried to cover most of it with those.
For the diet I see that the fats are very high, I would go to 60F bump protein to 200 if massing otherwise even 220/240 and the rest carbs around training.
Definitely would replace the precision mass with real quality food, those 1124kcal are from junk if compared to real food( i saw that you take 5g of creatine but in the supplement there's already 6g for 2 scoops), just with that your gonna see changes in your physique and well-being(bloodworks as well).
On 250 test you can stay there longer than 12 weeks but If you want to do a quick cycle to see how you react its fine I guess, can't help with the PCT since I've never done it .
I would check blood pressure changes as well.
Get some aromasin on hand in case you aromatise to much.
Been brief there but if you have questions just ask, I'll try to help with the knowledge I have.
There's good knowledgeable people in the forum but I'll suggest you to still try to do your due diligence research and then take decisions without taking words for granted.

 

[electus]

For the training split i use PPL as well even though in an asynchronous way.

 

[Rogue888]

Welcome to the @R&Dpharma team, you’re in good hands with R&D brother.

As above agree on ditching the mass gainer and replacing with real food, have done the same based on personal experience. Even just adding some oats to a smoothie in the morning if you are struggling to hit cals. Mass gainer just not really required and generally speaking expensive for what it is

I’d be aiming to split your pins into at least 2x a week, 3x even better

Can’t help with the PCT side of things as I don’t come off now, just drop back to TRT doses for cruise but I’m sure one of the guys will chime in with suggestions / protocols

250mg week sounds like a sensible start, just don’t neglect blood work and food intake most of all, bloodwork you can either use imedical for a more in depth test , or roidsafe offer bulk referrals for a cheap price too which can make it cheaper if you want to get a few sets of bloods throughout your cycle

Plenty of good guys and info on here too mate if you get stuck with anything

 

[stevesmi]

Very good start to this long. Don’t forget to get some meal pictures up. We wanna see what you’re eating not just hear about the calories.

 

[I Need it]

Welcome to the team bro. @R&Dpharma is the go @electus and @Rogue888 have given you some sound advice there. Like the lads have said I would lower the fat slightly to around 70/80g and up the protien the 220 or so, stick to real food brother and all stuff you can digest easily like chicken, beef and rice is always safe and keep your fibre intake up to aid digestion aswell. As for pct I'm the same as the other boys. I blast and cruise bro but back in the day I used to just take nolvadex or clomid for 3 or 4 weeks I believe and there is hcg aswell to help you come back. As I said bro I haven't done pct in years so I can't remember inexact protocol but I'm sure we will be able to find something. At the end of the day bro bloods don't lie so go off them.

Good to have u on board brother. Train hard, eat clean and post on here as much as you can. This community is fantastic and has alot of knowledge.

 

[Pigsy]

Welcome to logging, and.joining team @R&Dpharma. Will be following

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

G'day Legends,

I'm new to this forum and I am hoping to be pointed in the right direction throughout the course of my journey, by none other than you blokes.

I am 24 years old, from Sydney I've been training since I was 18, for 3 of those years it wasn't anything fancy just a garage setup with a bench and a few dumbbells. It wasn't until the start of 2023 I really ramped up training and joined a gym. Couple years on I've reached a point in the works where I'd like to compete one day and see how far I can take this. Training and diet have been on point for over a year.

As mentioned in the thread title, this will be my first cycle of 250mg Test E, special mention to @R&Dpharma for supplying my gear. I have no experience when it comes to pinning so all opinions and advice are very much appreciated. Waiting for blood results to come in hopefully this week. Being a pretty active and healthy 24 year old, I see no reason as to why my baseline wouldn't be in normal range.

Information:
- Age: 24
- Height: 192cm
- Weight: 79kg
- Body Fat %: Unsure
- Training Experience: 6 Years

Training:
MONDAY PUSH/TUESDAY PULL/ WEDNESDAY LEGS/ THURSDAY PUSH/ FRIDAY PULL/ SATURDAY LEGS/ SUNDAY - REST
I will get a comprehensive split uploading on here detailing my reps/sets with weight.

Diet:
Daily Cals - Fluctuates 3200-3500 (depending on if i can get an extra feed in during the day at work)
Will upload meal plan on here at a later stage just wanted to get a thread started
Macro: C390 | P180 | F120
Water intake: 3L day

Vits: Mens multivitamin daily. Omega 3 daily (Any other recommendations appreciated)

Supps:
Creatine 5g daily with pre
Pre: 1 scoop of DVST8 Inspired 30mins before workout
Precision mass 1 scoop (twice a day)

Blood work:
Awaiting results
Should I get bloods done mid-cycle & post for my first cycle of 250test E or just at the end (How long after??)

Cycle plan:
See how I react to 250g Test E. Build up on 2nd cycle.

Compounds planned for use: Test E to begin with. (What would you recommend for the second cycle? pretty open to try anything)

Cycle Length: 12 weeks

PCT Help is needed. What do you recommend? Should I be taking orals during?

Additional Notes/Goals:
Just keen to take this shit to the next level and lock TF in. No excuses now.
Heres a pic of my current physique.

Look forward to hearing from you guys, everything is appreciated.

@Going2theO first welcome to the EVO family bro nice to see you start a log and share pics thanks

i think your plan is actually good, and i think you can grow from this plan
start with test only and start logging food and training and we can grow your cycle and your size from there

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more

 

[electus]

I've always pinned ED subq, I would still recommend you ED subq pinning for a more stable serum even at that dose.

 

[Mobster]

I'd have you wait a year - 25

 

[ceo]

Bros Welcome to the family. You are a young dude. You got many years ahead of you. Let's make sure we do it the right way.

 

[ROIDDERS]

For your age. You have an excellent base so far.

I started taking it serious when I was about your age as well.

 

[chesty]

Looking really good. You already have a good v-shape to your physique. That's a good start.

 

[Ulter]

Terrific. Start to this man. Don't forget to add some food pictures.

It would be cool to see how your food prepping.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[e2]

Food prep at your age, can be an extreme weapon.

If you do it the right way, you will do an amazing job.

 

[2Thick]

Let's do this man. Good job on the pictures. Maybe get some more pictures up as a log goes on.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Looking really good, man.

I have a lot of respect for your progress at your age!

 

[Wootoom]

That's great. That you started weight training So young
I think I started when I was about 19 or 20

 

[JasonPriest]

Looking really good, man. I like your supplements.

 

[BodyMonster34]

Bro, you gonna have some good results on this.

We all started with modest backgrounds as well. I started in my trailer

 

[Quadsweep]

Looking really good so far man. I like your split routine, it's definitely good volume.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Great start to the log brother. You have a great physique to work from. Just focus 100% on what you are doing now. Don't worry about a second cycle just yet. People are always looking to change things up but when it works, why change it? Just something to keep in mind if you have a successful run. We don't always need to add more or do things differently from cycle to cycle.

 

[ballin2504]

G'day Legends,

I'm new to this forum and I am hoping to be pointed in the right direction throughout the course of my journey, by none other than you blokes.

I am 24 years old, from Sydney I've been training since I was 18, for 3 of those years it wasn't anything fancy just a garage setup with a bench and a few dumbbells. It wasn't until the start of 2023 I really ramped up training and joined a gym. Couple years on I've reached a point in the works where I'd like to compete one day and see how far I can take this. Training and diet have been on point for over a year.

As mentioned in the thread title, this will be my first cycle of 250mg Test E, special mention to @R&Dpharma for supplying my gear. I have no experience when it comes to pinning so all opinions and advice are very much appreciated. Waiting for blood results to come in hopefully this week. Being a pretty active and healthy 24 year old, I see no reason as to why my baseline wouldn't be in normal range.

Information:
- Age: 24
- Height: 192cm
- Weight: 79kg
- Body Fat %: Unsure
- Training Experience: 6 Years

Training:
MONDAY PUSH/TUESDAY PULL/ WEDNESDAY LEGS/ THURSDAY PUSH/ FRIDAY PULL/ SATURDAY LEGS/ SUNDAY - REST
I will get a comprehensive split uploading on here detailing my reps/sets with weight.

Diet:
Daily Cals - Fluctuates 3200-3500 (depending on if i can get an extra feed in during the day at work)
Will upload meal plan on here at a later stage just wanted to get a thread started
Macro: C390 | P180 | F120
Water intake: 3L day

Vits: Mens multivitamin daily. Omega 3 daily (Any other recommendations appreciated)

Supps:
Creatine 5g daily with pre
Pre: 1 scoop of DVST8 Inspired 30mins before workout
Precision mass 1 scoop (twice a day)

Blood work:
Awaiting results
Should I get bloods done mid-cycle & post for my first cycle of 250test E or just at the end (How long after??)

Cycle plan:
See how I react to 250g Test E. Build up on 2nd cycle.

Compounds planned for use: Test E to begin with. (What would you recommend for the second cycle? pretty open to try anything)

Cycle Length: 12 weeks

PCT Help is needed. What do you recommend? Should I be taking orals during?

Additional Notes/Goals:
Just keen to take this shit to the next level and lock TF in. No excuses now.
Heres a pic of my current physique.

Look forward to hearing from you guys, everything is appreciated.

@Going2theO nice start to the log big guy. Can’t wait to follow along.

 

[Noah Wixx]

For the training split i use PPL as well even though in an asynchronous way.

Another ppl split believer my favorite split i follow much the same.

 

[25homes]

Def following this. Should be good run. Stay focused

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

G'day Legends,

I'm new to this forum and I am hoping to be pointed in the right direction throughout the course of my journey, by none other than you blokes.

I am 24 years old, from Sydney I've been training since I was 18, for 3 of those years it wasn't anything fancy just a garage setup with a bench and a few dumbbells. It wasn't until the start of 2023 I really ramped up training and joined a gym. Couple years on I've reached a point in the works where I'd like to compete one day and see how far I can take this. Training and diet have been on point for over a year.

As mentioned in the thread title, this will be my first cycle of 250mg Test E, special mention to @R&Dpharma for supplying my gear. I have no experience when it comes to pinning so all opinions and advice are very much appreciated. Waiting for blood results to come in hopefully this week. Being a pretty active and healthy 24 year old, I see no reason as to why my baseline wouldn't be in normal range.

Information:
- Age: 24
- Height: 192cm
- Weight: 79kg
- Body Fat %: Unsure
- Training Experience: 6 Years

Training:
MONDAY PUSH/TUESDAY PULL/ WEDNESDAY LEGS/ THURSDAY PUSH/ FRIDAY PULL/ SATURDAY LEGS/ SUNDAY - REST
I will get a comprehensive split uploading on here detailing my reps/sets with weight.

Diet:
Daily Cals - Fluctuates 3200-3500 (depending on if i can get an extra feed in during the day at work)
Will upload meal plan on here at a later stage just wanted to get a thread started
Macro: C390 | P180 | F120
Water intake: 3L day

Vits: Mens multivitamin daily. Omega 3 daily (Any other recommendations appreciated)

Supps:
Creatine 5g daily with pre
Pre: 1 scoop of DVST8 Inspired 30mins before workout
Precision mass 1 scoop (twice a day)

Blood work:
Awaiting results
Should I get bloods done mid-cycle & post for my first cycle of 250test E or just at the end (How long after??)

Cycle plan:
See how I react to 250g Test E. Build up on 2nd cycle.

Compounds planned for use: Test E to begin with. (What would you recommend for the second cycle? pretty open to try anything)

Cycle Length: 12 weeks

PCT Help is needed. What do you recommend? Should I be taking orals during?

Additional Notes/Goals:
Just keen to take this shit to the next level and lock TF in. No excuses now.
Heres a pic of my current physique.

Look forward to hearing from you guys, everything is appreciated.

@Going2theO Welcome to Evo bro.....looking forward to an awesome log............

 

[RoySimpson]

G'day Legends,

I'm new to this forum and I am hoping to be pointed in the right direction throughout the course of my journey, by none other than you blokes.

I am 24 years old, from Sydney I've been training since I was 18, for 3 of those years it wasn't anything fancy just a garage setup with a bench and a few dumbbells. It wasn't until the start of 2023 I really ramped up training and joined a gym. Couple years on I've reached a point in the works where I'd like to compete one day and see how far I can take this. Training and diet have been on point for over a year.

As mentioned in the thread title, this will be my first cycle of 250mg Test E, special mention to @R&Dpharma for supplying my gear. I have no experience when it comes to pinning so all opinions and advice are very much appreciated. Waiting for blood results to come in hopefully this week. Being a pretty active and healthy 24 year old, I see no reason as to why my baseline wouldn't be in normal range.

Information:
- Age: 24
- Height: 192cm
- Weight: 79kg
- Body Fat %: Unsure
- Training Experience: 6 Years

Training:
MONDAY PUSH/TUESDAY PULL/ WEDNESDAY LEGS/ THURSDAY PUSH/ FRIDAY PULL/ SATURDAY LEGS/ SUNDAY - REST
I will get a comprehensive split uploading on here detailing my reps/sets with weight.

Diet:
Daily Cals - Fluctuates 3200-3500 (depending on if i can get an extra feed in during the day at work)
Will upload meal plan on here at a later stage just wanted to get a thread started
Macro: C390 | P180 | F120
Water intake: 3L day

Vits: Mens multivitamin daily. Omega 3 daily (Any other recommendations appreciated)

Supps:
Creatine 5g daily with pre
Pre: 1 scoop of DVST8 Inspired 30mins before workout
Precision mass 1 scoop (twice a day)

Blood work:
Awaiting results
Should I get bloods done mid-cycle & post for my first cycle of 250test E or just at the end (How long after??)

Cycle plan:
See how I react to 250g Test E. Build up on 2nd cycle.

Compounds planned for use: Test E to begin with. (What would you recommend for the second cycle? pretty open to try anything)

Cycle Length: 12 weeks

PCT Help is needed. What do you recommend? Should I be taking orals during?

Additional Notes/Goals:
Just keen to take this shit to the next level and lock TF in. No excuses now.
Heres a pic of my current physique.

Look forward to hearing from you guys, everything is appreciated.

@Going2theO Solid foundation. 250mg Test E is a good starting point. Prioritize bloodwork: pre, mid (week 6), and post (4-6 weeks after). Research Perfect PCT. Dial in training and diet. Future cycles depend on your goals. Keep us posted!

 

[Going2theO]

Hey legends, Thanks all so much for the support & added extra bits of knowledge. So appreciative of all of you!
Blood results in this arvo. I'll post them up as a 'baseline'. Keep you boys in the loop with regular updates too.

 

[Going2theO]

S/O to @R&Dpharma. Bottles are sick man! Pins arriving today

 

[electus]

It's gonna be a good winter bro, full of added muscles

 

[electus]

@Going2theO are pinning subq or Intra muscular?
Did you got some aromasin just in case?

 

[Coolguy]

Nice log so far @Going2theO
Will be following along brother

 

[Going2theO]

@Going2theO are pinning subq or Intra muscular?
Did you got some aromasin just in case?

I'll go Intra bro this time round. But I think next time SubQ especially if the dose is higher too
I got some aromasin just incase bro, I have clomid and nolvadex for when im off cycle. Anything else?

 

[electus]

I'll go Intra bro this time round. But I think next time SubQ especially if the dose is higher too
I got some aromasin just incase bro, I have clomid and nolvadex for when im off cycle. Anything else?

Im curious as to why IM instead of subq especially since your dealing with low doses, not accusatory just curious

 

[Coolguy]

I'll go Intra bro this time round. But I think next time SubQ especially if the dose is higher too
I got some aromasin just incase bro, I have clomid and nolvadex for when im off cycle. Anything else?

If your serious i don't know if I'd run a pct or come off. Just drop your test levels down to say 125mg a week. That way you don't smash your body with all the harsh pct drugs.

 

[Going2theO]

Im curious as to why IM instead of subq especially since your dealing with low doses, not accusatory just curious

Hey bro nah your sweet man, honestly just through my lack of knowledge regarding subq injections. I will admit that. Is there any pros/cons over subq opposed to intra?

 

[electus]

Hey bro nah your sweet man, honestly just through my lack of knowledge regarding subq injections. I will admit that. Is there any pros/cons over subq opposed to intra?

Yes there are I'll suggest you to watch vigorous steve videos about it to get the details, subq is more newbie friendly as well since you don't risk injecting into a vein and won't leave scar tissue since your injecting into fat tissues.
Other reasons as well such as more stable blood serum ecc but I'll refrain you to the video.

 

[Going2theO]

Yes there are I'll suggest you to watch vigorous steve videos about it to get the details, subq is more newbie friendly as well since you don't risk injecting into a vein and won't leave scar tissue since your injecting into fat tissues.
Other reasons as well such as more stable blood serum ecc but I'll refrain you to the video.

Really appreciate it man, I’ll definitely look into it

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

S/O to @R&Dpharma. Bottles are sick man! Pins arriving today

good touchdown from @R&Dpharma bro

but how about you start sharing nutrition/ training? and more

 

[Going2theO]

Hey Boys.
Bit going on in my personal life right now, hence why I haven't been updating regularly. I havent started cycle yet. Finally got my bloods back and a few things that I need your advice with.

History of sarms: RAD140 and LGD 4033 (2 cycles, 10 weeks each, 15 weeks off)

These are all base bloods.

All opinions and help appreciated

 

[Going2theO]

Training this week:

CHEST/TRIS
Dumbbell Flat Bench - 12x4 (35,37,37,35)
Dumbbell Incline bench - 12x4 (25,27,27,27)
Plated Incline press 12x3 (35,40,35)
Plated Decline press 12x3 (40,40,40)
Incline bench dumbbell flys 15x3 (20,20,20)
Seated Pec Dec - AMRAP x 3 (50,50,50)

-Standing Cable rope pulldown 15x3 (30,30,25) Last set til fail
-Skull crushers ezy bar 12x3 (20,20,15)
- Tricep dip AMRAP X 3
- Cable kick back 15x3 (5,5,5)
Overhead cable extensions x 3 (15,15,10)

BACK/BIS
Barbell Bent over rows 10x3 (60,60,70)
Lat pulldown 12x4 (65,65,65,65)
Close grip row 15x3 (50,50,50)
seated plated row 12x4 (80,100,120,120)
Standing cable pulldowns with rope 15x3 (20,20,20)

Dumbbell curl 12x3 (17.5)
Dumbbell Hammer curl 12x3 (20)
Cable hammers with rope 12x3 (25)
Ezybar preacher curl 12x3 (20)

LEGS/SHOULDERS

Leg press - 12x4 (200)
Hack Squat 10x3 (40)
Leg extensions 12x4 (85)
Hamstring curl (65)
Calf Raises AMRAP X 3 (40)

Smith Machine seated press 12x3 (65)
Seated dumbbell Arnold press (12x3) (20)
Lateral raises dumbbell - 12x3 (12.5) dropset AMRAP (8kg)
Rear delt fly dumbbell - 12 x 3 (10)
Reverse pec deck - 15x3 (25)
Barbell shrugs - 10x3 (85)

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Bit going on in my personal life right now, hence why I haven't been updating regularly. I havent started cycle yet. Finally got my bloods back and a few things that I need your advice with.

welcome back to the EVo family bro @Going2theO
you can share with our family what happened with personal issues?

History of sarms: RAD140 and LGD 4033 (2 cycles, 10 weeks each, 15 weeks off)

These are all base bloods.

All opinions and help appreciated

looks to me like your testosterone is LOW AF! bro you need testosterone asap
and your alt/ast is real bad you need to be on liver organ support like n2guard asap like now

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Training this week:

CHEST/TRIS
Dumbbell Flat Bench - 12x4 (35,37,37,35)
Dumbbell Incline bench - 12x4 (25,27,27,27)
Plated Incline press 12x3 (35,40,35)
Plated Decline press 12x3 (40,40,40)
Incline bench dumbbell flys 15x3 (20,20,20)
Seated Pec Dec - AMRAP x 3 (50,50,50)

-Standing Cable rope pulldown 15x3 (30,30,25) Last set til fail
-Skull crushers ezy bar 12x3 (20,20,15)
- Tricep dip AMRAP X 3
- Cable kick back 15x3 (5,5,5)
Overhead cable extensions x 3 (15,15,10)

BACK/BIS
Barbell Bent over rows 10x3 (60,60,70)
Lat pulldown 12x4 (65,65,65,65)
Close grip row 15x3 (50,50,50)
seated plated row 12x4 (80,100,120,120)
Standing cable pulldowns with rope 15x3 (20,20,20)

Dumbbell curl 12x3 (17.5)
Dumbbell Hammer curl 12x3 (20)
Cable hammers with rope 12x3 (25)
Ezybar preacher curl 12x3 (20)

LEGS/SHOULDERS

Leg press - 12x4 (200)
Hack Squat 10x3 (40)
Leg extensions 12x4 (85)
Hamstring curl (65)
Calf Raises AMRAP X 3 (40)

Smith Machine seated press 12x3 (65)
Seated dumbbell Arnold press (12x3) (20)
Lateral raises dumbbell - 12x3 (12.5) dropset AMRAP (8kg)
Rear delt fly dumbbell - 12 x 3 (10)
Reverse pec deck - 15x3 (25)
Barbell shrugs - 10x3 (85)

this is the whole week bro? no cardio at all? @Going2theO

 

[Going2theO]

Fucking hell not looking good. Split with Misses of 3 years. Young love, huh. Time to just fucking lock in. idgaf anymore.

Yes, sorry Cardio x 2 for the week
10km walk both Saturday and Sunday at a moderate pace, 10:30/km.

 

[Going2theO]

welcome back to the EVo family bro @Going2theO
you can share with our family what happened with personal issues?


looks to me like your testosterone is LOW AF! bro you need testosterone asap
and your alt/ast is real bad you need to be on liver organ support like n2guard asap like now

Dunno what the fuck has happened & i dont know how long this has been going on for. Might be dead before I even get on stage.
Where the fuck can i find n2guard brother, will anything else work in the meantime just some organ support from chemist warehouse for the meantime until i can find a good source for n2.

 

[Going2theO]

Thats down. Gonna get an AI and Serms for PCT. Any advice on when to take an AI. How much/how often?

 

[stevesmi]

i'm not understanding the timeline. you were on a sarms cycle then came off?

when was your last dose and what pct are you using?

would also be helpful if you had gotten your LH and FSH tested, its a must on future bloods

 

[Going2theO]

i'm not understanding the timeline. you were on a sarms cycle then came off?

when was your last dose and what pct are you using?

would also be helpful if you had gotten your LH and FSH tested, its a must on future bloods

Hey mate, attached is LH & FSH results.

Yeah I’ve been off sarms close to 10 weeks now. Pct im using rich piana’s ‘post’ tablets.
I also tapered off the sarms lowering the dose slightly each week

 

[Going2theO]

LH & FSH

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Dunno what the fuck has happened & i dont know how long this has been going on for. Might be dead before I even get on stage.
Where the fuck can i find n2guard brother, will anything else work in the meantime just some organ support from chemist warehouse for the meantime until i can find a good source for n2.

you can find n2guard here bro
https://n2guard.com
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/cycle-support/n2guard/

Hey mate, attached is LH & FSH results.

Yeah I’ve been off sarms close to 10 weeks now. Pct im using rich piana’s ‘post’ tablets.
I also tapered off the sarms lowering the dose slightly each week

LH & FSH

rich piana is dead because of abusing shit bro i wouldnt use any of his products
you're not recovered at all
your best case is to go on self TRT @Going2theO

 

[electus]

Start using Tudca at the very least, Astragalus extract, NAC and Milk thistle.
Clean up your diet and drink more water, this is imperative bro.

 

[electus]

For the AI you need bloodwork to evaluate the situation, on 250 test you might not need an AI, but then again it depends as well how frequently your pinning.
Check e2 with LCMS after 5 weeks on testosterone.

 

[Mobster]

Training this week:

CHEST/TRIS
Dumbbell Flat Bench - 12x4 (35,37,37,35)
Dumbbell Incline bench - 12x4 (25,27,27,27)
Plated Incline press 12x3 (35,40,35)
Plated Decline press 12x3 (40,40,40)
Incline bench dumbbell flys 15x3 (20,20,20)
Seated Pec Dec - AMRAP x 3 (50,50,50)

-Standing Cable rope pulldown 15x3 (30,30,25) Last set til fail
-Skull crushers ezy bar 12x3 (20,20,15)
- Tricep dip AMRAP X 3
- Cable kick back 15x3 (5,5,5)
Overhead cable extensions x 3 (15,15,10)

BACK/BIS
Barbell Bent over rows 10x3 (60,60,70)
Lat pulldown 12x4 (65,65,65,65)
Close grip row 15x3 (50,50,50)
seated plated row 12x4 (80,100,120,120)
Standing cable pulldowns with rope 15x3 (20,20,20)

Dumbbell curl 12x3 (17.5)
Dumbbell Hammer curl 12x3 (20)
Cable hammers with rope 12x3 (25)
Ezybar preacher curl 12x3 (20)

LEGS/SHOULDERS

Leg press - 12x4 (200)
Hack Squat 10x3 (40)
Leg extensions 12x4 (85)
Hamstring curl (65)
Calf Raises AMRAP X 3 (40)

Smith Machine seated press 12x3 (65)
Seated dumbbell Arnold press (12x3) (20)
Lateral raises dumbbell - 12x3 (12.5) dropset AMRAP (8kg)
Rear delt fly dumbbell - 12 x 3 (10)
Reverse pec deck - 15x3 (25)
Barbell shrugs - 10x3 (85)

lbs or kilos? @ me

 

[Going2theO]

lbs or kilos? @ me

Hey @Mobster kilos mate

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro dayum yo liver crazy high.
Remind me of when I drink Hooch and I'm on the gear at the same time.
You should get liver support.

 

[ceo]

Bros. Your training looks really solid. I like the different exercises you do and you push in some good weights.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Definitely don't want your organs to be under pressure for a long period Of time.
I'm curious if you're on any other types of drugs, or if you're drinking alcohol, something that could be stressing them out.
There's lots of different things that could be happening.

 

[2Thick]

You are doing a great job on this training, I have a lot of respect for what you're doing. Just make sure you monitor, your blood work and you keep track of it. Really good opportunity for you To do all this.

 

[Going2theO]

Definitely don't want your organs to be under pressure for a long period Of time.
I'm curious if you're on any other types of drugs, or if you're drinking alcohol, something that could be stressing them out.
There's lots of different things that could be happening.

Hey bro. No drinking, for about a month now. I quit vaping about a week ago too. And never touch rec drugs

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey bro. No drinking, for about a month now. I quit vaping about a week ago too. And never touch rec drugs

but you drank 1 month before this?

 

[Ulter]

Hey Boys.
Bit going on in my personal life right now, hence why I haven't been updating regularly. I havent started cycle yet. Finally got my bloods back and a few things that I need your advice with.

History of sarms: RAD140 and LGD 4033 (2 cycles, 10 weeks each, 15 weeks off)

These are all base bloods.

All opinions and help appreciated

This is an excellent update my friend your blood work is very important to post. You can get it tested again and compare the before and after

Do you have prior blood work? From months ago. Maybe the sarms may have irritated your liver. It's hard to really tell or it could be something else you're taking.

 

[Going2theO]

1 month before the bloods yes. On cycle no definitely not.

but you drank 1 month before this?

 

[Going2theO]

This is an excellent update my friend your blood work is very important to post. You can get it tested again and compare the before and after

Do you have prior blood work? From months ago. Maybe the sarms may have irritated your liver. It's hard to really tell or it could be something else you're taking.

I’d say for sure it’s the sarms brother. I don’t have any more tests. I don’t drink anymore, don’t smoke, literally exercise like a fucking demon I have a pretty labour intensive job as a plumber, not like I’m stuck in an office. I do Cardio twice a week (10km walk). Just don’t understand why it hasn’t recovered and it’s affected my test levels like crazy.

 

[Noah Wixx]

I’d say for sure it’s the sarms brother. I don’t have any more tests. I don’t drink anymore, don’t smoke, literally exercise like a fucking demon I have a pretty labour intensive job as a plumber, not like I’m stuck in an office. I do Cardio twice a week (10km walk). Just don’t understand why it hasn’t recovered and it’s affected my test levels like crazy.

Sarms can definitely hit ast and alt hard it happened to me and took a really long time for revocery

 

[Going2theO]

Sarms can definitely hit ast and alt hard it happened to me and took a really long time for revocery

Did you have any PCT or did you just let it play its course

 

[Ulter]

I’d say for sure it’s the sarms brother. I don’t have any more tests. I don’t drink anymore, don’t smoke, literally exercise like a fucking demon I have a pretty labour intensive job as a plumber, not like I’m stuck in an office. I do Cardio twice a week (10km walk). Just don’t understand why it hasn’t recovered and it’s affected my test levels like crazy.

@Going2theO it is true sarms do cause some issues like this. especially when you stack them.. hell the bloods dont lie

 

[LevButlerov]

@Going2theO sarms do have sides for sure, this is why we suggest organ liver support like n2guard with sarms stacks.

You are on test now?

1 month before the bloods yes. On cycle no definitely not.

I’d say for sure it’s the sarms brother. I don’t have any more tests. I don’t drink anymore, don’t smoke, literally exercise like a fucking demon I have a pretty labour intensive job as a plumber, not like I’m stuck in an office. I do Cardio twice a week (10km walk). Just don’t understand why it hasn’t recovered and it’s affected my test levels like crazy.

 

[Going2theO]

@Going2theO sarms do have sides for sure, this is why we suggest organ liver support like n2guard with sarms stacks.

You are on test now?

Hey bro, yes about to start test cycle. Currently taking liver detox, multivitamins, fish oils & Tudca everyday.
Will be interesting week 6 to see how the bloods go.
I’ve got n2guard from America. When that arrives do you advise taking that even on cycle & as a pct

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey bro, yes about to start test cycle. Currently taking liver detox, multivitamins, fish oils & Tudca everyday.
Will be interesting week 6 to see how the bloods go.
I’ve got n2guard from America. When that arrives do you advise taking that even on cycle & as a pct

This is a smart move, load up. Can you do a short fast like 24 hours too? @Going2theO

 

[Going2theO]

This is a smart move, load up. Can you do a short fast like 24 hours too? @Going2theO

Short fast prior to bloods, or before starting test e

 

[RoySimpson]

Training this week:

CHEST/TRIS
Dumbbell Flat Bench - 12x4 (35,37,37,35)
Dumbbell Incline bench - 12x4 (25,27,27,27)
Plated Incline press 12x3 (35,40,35)
Plated Decline press 12x3 (40,40,40)
Incline bench dumbbell flys 15x3 (20,20,20)
Seated Pec Dec - AMRAP x 3 (50,50,50)

-Standing Cable rope pulldown 15x3 (30,30,25) Last set til fail
-Skull crushers ezy bar 12x3 (20,20,15)
- Tricep dip AMRAP X 3
- Cable kick back 15x3 (5,5,5)
Overhead cable extensions x 3 (15,15,10)

BACK/BIS
Barbell Bent over rows 10x3 (60,60,70)
Lat pulldown 12x4 (65,65,65,65)
Close grip row 15x3 (50,50,50)
seated plated row 12x4 (80,100,120,120)
Standing cable pulldowns with rope 15x3 (20,20,20)

Dumbbell curl 12x3 (17.5)
Dumbbell Hammer curl 12x3 (20)
Cable hammers with rope 12x3 (25)
Ezybar preacher curl 12x3 (20)

LEGS/SHOULDERS

Leg press - 12x4 (200)
Hack Squat 10x3 (40)
Leg extensions 12x4 (85)
Hamstring curl (65)
Calf Raises AMRAP X 3 (40)

Smith Machine seated press 12x3 (65)
Seated dumbbell Arnold press (12x3) (20)
Lateral raises dumbbell - 12x3 (12.5) dropset AMRAP (8kg)
Rear delt fly dumbbell - 12 x 3 (10)
Reverse pec deck - 15x3 (25)
Barbell shrugs - 10x3 (85)

@Going2theO awesome workout right here bro!

 

[LevButlerov]

Short fast prior to bloods, or before starting test e

Both would be good, 24 hours before bloods and 48 hours before cycle. @Going2theO

 

[Going2theO]

Both would be good, 24 hours before bloods and 48 hours before cycle. @Going2theO

Legend bro will do

 

[LevButlerov]

Legend bro will do

Now stay steady update the food and training please

 

[ballin2504]

Hey Boys.
Bit going on in my personal life right now, hence why I haven't been updating regularly. I havent started cycle yet. Finally got my bloods back and a few things that I need your advice with.

History of sarms: RAD140 and LGD 4033 (2 cycles, 10 weeks each, 15 weeks off)

These are all base bloods.

All opinions and help appreciated

@Going2theO am I reading that right? Is your testosterone that low?

 

[Going2theO]

@Going2theO am I reading that right? Is your testosterone that low?

Hey @ballin2504 yes bro, it is that low. Hard to believe really, and I’m not even sure how long it’s been going on. Now im aware of it, probably makes sense as to a lot of unwanted mood swings & just feeling tired and exhausted all the time.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey @ballin2504 yes bro, it is that low. Hard to believe really, and I’m not even sure how long it’s been going on. Now im aware of it, probably makes sense as to a lot of unwanted mood swings & just feeling tired and exhausted all the time.

It's exactly the reason actually you have the mood swings. @Going2theO you need to get on TRT asap.

 

[25homes]

Good work on bloods

 

[CypherOCE]

@BigCheese2000 and I use this list for our supps

Definitely keeps you in good stead.

As for PCT - I’d suggest nova clomid with HCG to get the LH and FSH levels firing up again

If you have any questions just @ me or shoot me a message always happy to help a follow tradie even though you’re a plumber I won’t hold it against you

 

[Going2theO]

@BigCheese2000 and I use this list for our supps

Definitely keeps you in good stead.

View attachment 88153

As for PCT - I’d suggest nova clomid with HCG to get the LH and FSH levels firing up again

If you have any questions just @ me or shoot me a message always happy to help a follow tradie even though you’re a plumber I won’t hold it against you

 

[Going2theO]

@BigCheese2000 and I use this list for our supps

Definitely keeps you in good stead.

View attachment 88153

As for PCT - I’d suggest nova clomid with HCG to get the LH and FSH levels firing up again

If you have any questions just @ me or shoot me a message always happy to help a follow tradie even though you’re a plumber I won’t hold it against you

Thanks for that bro!
Hahah, appreciate it man

 

[LevButlerov]

@BigCheese2000 and I use this list for our supps

Definitely keeps you in good stead.

View attachment 88153

As for PCT - I’d suggest nova clomid with HCG to get the LH and FSH levels firing up again

If you have any questions just @ me or shoot me a message always happy to help a follow tradie even though you’re a plumber I won’t hold it against you

Add fadogia to the list for pct.

 

[BeMe]

I can't offer much in as far as technical support but I do wish you well and hope your health improves! You're a strong young guy so I'm sure you'll bounce back better than before.