Approved Log My Recomp cycle Journal

[2Thick]

and stop the rest nac, vit c and zinc for now

Very good on this update. It's important to let us know if you stop or stop your supplements. @Dreamer

 

[LevButlerov]

Just ordered cardarine. I'll give it a go with the test at trt dose for now and once bloods clear ill up to 250mg and throw in 20mg anavar daily and see how i respond after 4 weeks. If all is good and bloods are still sweet maybe ill drop the anavar then throw in the boldenone acetate I have and finish with mast p at the end of cycle.

Main focus now is getting health right so I can stay on track this time

Lets get back on TRT and some cardarine will be a start and add more as we go @Gabs

 

[ROIDDERS]

Boys im unsure on where to start once I recommence cycle. I dont want to end up sick and off cycle again and was thinking the cycle i was on may have be a bit too much to jump back into after my recovery.

I was thinking test, eq but I havent used eq before so unsure of the effects on bloods and if its suitable right now.
Thought ill ease back into it with something mild but not sure where to start.

Open to suggestions, let me know what you boys think.

Equipoise is an awesome steroid. A lot of people are going towards it the last few years. i have a lot of respect for it. @Gabs its not bad at all on sides and mild at 400mgs a week

 

[StrongZoeM]

Welcome to the forum, Gabs! Keen to see the progress pics. Always interesting to see different approaches to cycles.

 

[ballin2504]

Update on bloods is promising for a restart of cycle soon.

Back into training this week and fully dialled in with diet.

Monday push 70%
Tuesday pull 80%
Wednesday rest
Thursday 100%
Friday 100%

Been noticing some dizziness towards the end of my session and afterwards but im in a defecit and carbs are only 180 per day mainly pre and post training but i think i need to up carbs on meal 2 before pre workout meal.

Apart from that ive dropped 2% body fat since ive been sick and maintained slightly above trt dose (165mg per week) and havent lost muscle (actually gained a bit this week).

Rebound is looking really good however I think i'll need another week before I recommence cycle.

Bloods look pretty good to me considering what they looks like last week..

@Gabs I don’t blame you for waiting another week to recommence on the cycle. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Gabs]

Equipoise is an awesome steroid. A lot of people are going towards it the last few years. i have a lot of respect for it. @Gabs its not bad at all on sides and mild at 400mgs a week

Ive heard nothing but great things about it and im keen to give it a try. Hopefully things clear up on the next round of bloods

Did you find it always needs to be run at 2:1 or 2:1.5 test to eq? Ive seen others heard it higher than test with great results

 

[Gabs]

Welcome to the forum, Gabs! Keen to see the progress pics. Always interesting to see different approaches to cycles.

Thanks brother. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks ill have something worthy to post lol

 

[Gabs]

@Gabs I don’t blame you for waiting another week to recommence on the cycle. Better safe than sorry.

Yeah bro it was a shit go having to come off so early in the cycle when I was starting to see progress but its made me want to come back stronger this time around.

Training intensly while sick, dehydrated and taking psudo cold and flu tablets was a horrible idea

 

[Dreamer]

Yeah bro it was a shit go having to come off so early in the cycle when I was starting to see progress but its made me want to come back stronger this time around.

Training intensly while sick, dehydrated and taking psudo cold and flu tablets was a horrible idea

Man once your back and on properly itll be even better - itll be worth it

 

[Gabs]

Man once your back and on properly itll be even better - itll be worth it

I pray brother, im so hungry for it now.

 

[BeMe]

Just ordered cardarine. I'll give it a go with the test at trt dose for now and once bloods clear ill up to 250mg and throw in 20mg anavar daily and see how i respond after 4 weeks. If all is good and bloods are still sweet maybe ill drop the anavar then throw in the boldenone acetate I have and finish with mast p at the end of cycle.

Main focus now is getting health right so I can stay on track this time

Sounds like a really good plan bro. Can't have a good cycle if you aren't healthy going in. I'm actually holding off on a new cycle right now for the same reason.

 

[Gabs]

Sounds like a really good plan bro. Can't have a good cycle if you aren't healthy going in. I'm actually holding off on a new cycle right now for the same reason.

Yeah bro in hindsight I wish I did. We live and learn.
What cycle you planning on running?

 

[ROIDDERS]

Ive heard nothing but great things about it and im keen to give it a try. Hopefully things clear up on the next round of bloods

Did you find it always needs to be run at 2:1 or 2:1.5 test to eq? Ive seen others heard it higher than test with great results

Experiment with what works. There's no right or wrong answer.

 

[BeMe]

Yeah bro in hindsight I wish I did. We live and learn.
What cycle you planning on running?

I'm gonna ride the dragon and hop on Tren for the first time. Pretty critical that I'm healthy going into this one lol.

 

[ceo]

Thanks bro. 100% is literally nothing left in the tank at the end of the session lol. Ive always been like this, 100% or I dont feel like im ready to leave. Only reason Ive been easing in is because im still recovering.

Bros. That's how the workout should be. Hell yeah. Pumping that iron like a champion.

 

[Gabs]

I'm gonna ride the dragon and hop on Tren for the first time. Pretty critical that I'm healthy going into this one lol.

Yeah definitely bro. First time I did tren was the last time I did tren - only lasted 4 weeks lol. I loved the gains in those 4 weeks but was it worth the night terrors, mood swings, irritability and rage? For me..definitely no hahaha

 

[Gabs]

Bros. That's how the workout should be. Hell yeah. Pumping that iron like a champion.

Thanks brother! Only way to train! Sometimes need to convince myself to leave haha.

Today's session

Back, rear delts, biceps to failure or 2 RIR
Seated row 12 x 3
Machine pull down 12 x 3
Cable lat pull down wide grip 12 x 3
Barbell bent over rows 12 x 3
Cable lat pull through 12 x 3
Rear delt fly machine 12 x 4
Seated rear delt flys 12 x 3
Cable bicep curl 12 x 5
Incline seated dumbbell curls 12 x 3

Cardio
1Km rower max resistance 4 mins
10 min on stair master on level 10
Stretching and mobility work 10 minutes

Couldnt get all my meals in earlier today so this was done on 770 cal. Going to make up for it tonight with plenty of food lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Sounds like a really good plan bro. Can't have a good cycle if you aren't healthy going in. I'm actually holding off on a new cycle right now for the same reason.

you're doing the right thing

 

[ceo]

Thanks brother! Only way to train! Sometimes need to convince myself to leave haha.

Today's session

Back, rear delts, biceps to failure or 2 RIR
Seated row 12 x 3
Machine pull down 12 x 3
Cable lat pull down wide grip 12 x 3
Barbell bent over rows 12 x 3
Cable lat pull through 12 x 3
Rear delt fly machine 12 x 4
Seated rear delt flys 12 x 3
Cable bicep curl 12 x 5
Incline seated dumbbell curls 12 x 3

Cardio
1Km rower max resistance 4 mins
10 min on stair master on level 10
Stretching and mobility work 10 minutes

Couldnt get all my meals in earlier today so this was done on 770 cal. Going to make up for it tonight with plenty of food lol

Bros you are a true champion. That's what we like to see.

 

[Gabs]

Bros you are a true champion. That's what we like to see.

Thanks bro, still got a long way to go before I earn that title though haha

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks brother! Only way to train! Sometimes need to convince myself to leave haha.

Today's session

Back, rear delts, biceps to failure or 2 RIR
Seated row 12 x 3
Machine pull down 12 x 3
Cable lat pull down wide grip 12 x 3
Barbell bent over rows 12 x 3
Cable lat pull through 12 x 3
Rear delt fly machine 12 x 4
Seated rear delt flys 12 x 3
Cable bicep curl 12 x 5
Incline seated dumbbell curls 12 x 3

Cardio
1Km rower max resistance 4 mins
10 min on stair master on level 10
Stretching and mobility work 10 minutes

Couldnt get all my meals in earlier today so this was done on 770 cal. Going to make up for it tonight with plenty of food lol

good training today though no weights

 

[Gabs]

good training today though no weights

The seated rear delt flys were dumbbells.

Also I forgot to add the dumbbell shrugs 15x3 with pause reps.



I have advanced arthritis in both shoulders so I limit free weights to avoid strain. I need 2 shoulder replacements

 

[BeMe]

The seated rear delt flys were dumbbells.

Also I forgot to add the dumbbell shrugs 15x3 with pause reps.



I have advanced arthritis in both shoulders so I limit free weights to avoid strain. I need 2 shoulder replacements

Damn bro both shoulders...that's awful. Amazing you can train through that. Talk about will power.

They can fix arthritis with replacement surgery?

 

[LevButlerov]

The seated rear delt flys were dumbbells.

Also I forgot to add the dumbbell shrugs 15x3 with pause reps.



I have advanced arthritis in both shoulders so I limit free weights to avoid strain. I need 2 shoulder replacements

I see got it, go slow if you have arthritis

 

[Gabs]

Damn bro both shoulders...that's awful. Amazing you can train through that. Talk about will power.

They can fix arthritis with replacement surgery?

Surprisingly if done right it helps with the pain but if i do overdo it it flares up.

So basically I have advanced arthritis in both shoulders which causes degeneration of the cartridge. Essentially theres barely any cartridge left now in my shoulders and its bone on bone. Ive got pieces of chipped bone some up to 12mm floating around in there.

Ain't great but cortisone injections help briefly. Lowering my estrogen is a killer as well as estrogen lubes it up a lot better.

 

[ceo]

Thanks bro, still got a long way to go before I earn that title though haha

bros your heart i can tell already a champion

 

[BeMe]

Surprisingly if done right it helps with the pain but if i do overdo it it flares up.

So basically I have advanced arthritis in both shoulders which causes degeneration of the cartridge. Essentially theres barely any cartridge left now in my shoulders and its bone on bone. Ive got pieces of chipped bone some up to 12mm floating around in there.

Ain't great but cortisone injections help briefly. Lowering my estrogen is a killer as well as estrogen lubes it up a lot better.

Damn bro that sounds awful. Can't you bit the bullet and get them replaced? Sounds like it's gonna get worse over time. Fragments floating around in a shoulder joint sounds pretty serious too.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks brother! Only way to train! Sometimes need to convince myself to leave haha.

Today's session

Back, rear delts, biceps to failure or 2 RIR
Seated row 12 x 3
Machine pull down 12 x 3
Cable lat pull down wide grip 12 x 3
Barbell bent over rows 12 x 3
Cable lat pull through 12 x 3
Rear delt fly machine 12 x 4
Seated rear delt flys 12 x 3
Cable bicep curl 12 x 5
Incline seated dumbbell curls 12 x 3

Cardio
1Km rower max resistance 4 mins
10 min on stair master on level 10
Stretching and mobility work 10 minutes

Couldnt get all my meals in earlier today so this was done on 770 cal. Going to make up for it tonight with plenty of food lol

I’m getting more into fasted workouts lately to try and drop BF before next cycle. 770 cals is okay you can grit through it and did.

Sorry to hear about the arthritis bro it’ll be importsnt to work around that safely.

Thinking of adding any new peptides for that? Not sure what you can do with fragments in the joints though.

 

[Gabs]

Damn bro that sounds awful. Can't you bit the bullet and get them replaced? Sounds like it's gonna get worse over time. Fragments floating around in a shoulder joint sounds pretty serious too.

Yeah bro both surgeons said 6 month to q year recovery each shoulder.
If I just do a clean up of the fragments its a minimum 3 month recovery and its not guaranteed to give relief.

 

[Gabs]

I’m getting more into fasted workouts lately to try and drop BF before next cycle. 770 cals is okay you can grit through it and did.

Sorry to hear about the arthritis bro it’ll be importsnt to work around that safely.

Thinking of adding any new peptides for that? Not sure what you can do with fragments in the joints though.

Yeah definitely going to get into fasting once im recovered, just need the calories to recover quicker.

Thanks bro, cant do much but be mindful of it. Bpc, tb500 and gh are helping but I have my days.

You have any other peptides in mind that could help? Keen to try anything.
Deca and npp helps but plays with my mood and gives me too much water retention.

Anastrozole is my biggest killer. 0.25mg literally kills my shoulders for a few days after so Ive decided to scrap it completely.
Once back on cycle ill give aromasin a try if e2 goes out of control.

 

[HarleyGuy]

You have any other peptides in mind that could help? Keen to try anything.

Definitely TB500 with the BPC-157

Anastrozole is my biggest killer. 0.25mg literally kills my shoulders for a few days after so Ive decided to scrap it completely.

Yes low e2 will give you joint issues and irritability you probably didn’t need it and had e2 too low, and especially if you’re off cycle.

Once back on cycle I’ll give aromasin a try if e2 goes out of control.

Do you have bloods confirmed in terms of a date? This is the best way to find out dosing for AI’s and whether it’s necessary. I find aromasin a little more forgiving and easier to control with dosing. 12.5mg e3d can be a good start if you’re running higher aromatizing compounds. Arimidex is an excellent AI but needs to be used more sparingly without bloods and meanwhile diligently watch for low e2 sides.

You seemed to imply you were running arimidex off cycle is this the case?

 

[Gabs]

Definitely TB500 with the BPC-157


Yes low e2 will give you joint issues and irritability you probably didn’t need it and had e2 too low, and especially if you’re off cycle.

Do you have bloods confirmed in terms of a date? This is the best way to find out dosing for AI’s and whether it’s necessary. I find aromasin a little more forgiving and easier to control with dosing. 12.5mg e3d can be a good start if you’re running higher aromatizing compounds. Arimidex is an excellent AI but needs to be used more sparingly without bloods and meanwhile diligently watch for low e2 sides.

You seemed to imply you were running arimidex off cycle is this the case?

My e2 was 136 pmol/ml a week after I stopped cycle and was running only 175mg test. Further dropped test to 125mg until I recover and thought my estrogen was creeping but mustn't have been. Ive always felt better with e2 over 100. Going lower kills my joints and mood.

 

[HarleyGuy]

My e2 was 136 pmol/ml a week after I stopped cycle and was running only 175mg test. Further dropped test to 125mg until I recover and thought my estrogen was creeping but mustn't have been. Ive always felt better with e2 over 100. Going lower kills my joints and mood.

Same here. Being low makes me a moody angry bitch. Mid to mid/high e2 is where I like to be.

 

[Gabs]

Same here. Being low makes me a moody angry bitch. Mid to mid/high e2 is where I like to be.

I thought I was the only one

 

[HarleyGuy]

I thought I was the only one

Negative. It’s very common. Welcome to EVO where no one feels alone.

 

[Gabs]

Negative. It’s very common.

How do you manage water retention when e2 goes high on cycle?

 

[Dreamer]

Yeah definitely going to get into fasting once im recovered, just need the calories to recover quicker.

Thanks bro, cant do much but be mindful of it. Bpc, tb500 and gh are helping but I have my days.

You have any other peptides in mind that could help? Keen to try anything.
Deca and npp helps but plays with my mood and gives me too much water retention.

Anastrozole is my biggest killer. 0.25mg literally kills my shoulders for a few days after so Ive decided to scrap it completely.
Once back on cycle ill give aromasin a try if e2 goes out of control.

Arimidex is brutal on me too, about to switch to aromasin pending bloods, my e2 was at 315 pmol, water retention bad

 

[HarleyGuy]

How do you manage water retention when e2 goes high on cycle?

Depends what you mean by “high”

Like out of range high? Aromasin.
In range but high? That’s due to choice of compound and how you aromatize. If you’re not contest prepping you just have to accept it and use it for some extra strength gains if anything.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Arimidex is brutal on me too, about to switch to aromasin pending bloods, my e2 was at 315 pmol, water retention bad

I find Aromasin more forgiving than Adex and easier to use.

 

[Dreamer]

I find Aromasin more forgiving than Adex and easier to use.

This is what I am hearing and seeing all over the place, I am very hopeful to put this to bed finally, e2 is a battle for me, seem to aromatise heavily

 

[HarleyGuy]

This is what I am hearing and seeing all over the place, I am very hopeful to put this to bed finally, e2 is a battle for me, seem to aromatise heavily

Keep us posted. Get bloods after about 3 weeks even if it’s just e2 and prolactin.

 

[Dreamer]

Keep us posted. Get bloods after about 3 weeks even if it’s just e2 and prolactin.

Definitely the plan - I got them drawn today, expecting to see another 300+ the way I feel, then Ill do it again after some aromasin, interesting im only like 200mg test a week - probably 10% body fat too makes no sense

 

[HarleyGuy]

Definitely the plan - I got them drawn today, expecting to see another 300+ the way I feel, then Ill do it again after some aromasin, interesting im only like 200mg test a week - probably 10% body fat too makes no sense

You could be a high aromatizer and 200mg is still enough to put some out of range.

You should get your bloods back in 2 business days make sure and screenshot it in your log and @tag me.

 

[Dreamer]

You could be a high aromatizer and 200mg is still enough to put some out of range.

You should get your bloods back in 2 business days make sure and screenshot it in your log and @tag me.

Will do my man, will be in my log and the blood test sub forum! Thanks brother

 

[HarleyGuy]

Will do my man, will be in my log and the blood test sub forum! Thanks brother

Perfect! We’ll get that e2 in check bro you can bet on that. Do you have aromasin in the mail or on hand at present?

 

[Dreamer]

Perfect! We’ll get that e2 in check bro you can bet on that. Do you have aromasin in the mail or on hand at present?

Got aromasin and arimidex on hand

 

[BeMe]

Yeah bro both surgeons said 6 month to q year recovery each shoulder.
If I just do a clean up of the fragments its a minimum 3 month recovery and its not guaranteed to give relief.

Omg...that's so brutal. Is there a lifespan on shoulder similar to a knee or hip?

 

[Gabs]

Depends what you mean by “high”

Like out of range high? Aromasin.
In range but high? That’s due to choice of compound and how you aromatize. If you’re not contest prepping you just have to accept it and use it for some extra strength gains if anything.

I'll give it a try. Seems like barely anyone uses anastrozole in us. Its something that is first point for e2 control here in aus.

 

[Gabs]

Omg...that's so brutal. Is there a lifespan on shoulder similar to a knee or hip?

Just depends on everyone's circumstances bro. I played rugby leage when I was young and was a big hitter, put a lot of wear on my shoulders. Then when I started training I pushed myself too much at a young age. I used to dumbbell shoulder press 56kg at 18 for reps and do 80kg weighted dips. When youre young you think you're invincible

 

[HarleyGuy]

I'll give it a try. Seems like barely anyone uses anastrozole in us. Its something that is first point for e2 control here in aus.

anastrozole works very effectively, problem is it's harder to dose as it's so strong mg vs. mg. Aromasin comes in 12.5mg or 25mg and you can play around more with the dosing and hence it's more forgiving in that sense. If you wanted to take 6.25mg you could. Whereas, with anastrozole coming in 1mg tabs, good luck chopping up 0.25mg of anastrozole if a low dose e2d or e3d is needed. You'd lose 25% of your anastrozole just pill cutting it.

 

[Gabs]

anastrozole works very effectively, problem is it's harder to dose as it's so strong mg vs. mg. Aromasin comes in 12.5mg or 25mg and you can play around more with the dosing and hence it's more forgiving in that sense. If you wanted to take 6.25mg you could. Whereas, with anastrozole coming in 1mg tabs, good luck chopping up 0.25mg of anastrozole if a low dose e2d or e3d is needed. You'd lose 25% of your anastrozole just pill cutting it.

I do it with a pill cutter but honestly even 0.25mg is too much for me. From what ive read a low shbg makes hormonal changes dramatic also. Mine is 12

 

[Dreamer]

I do it with a pill cutter but honestly even 0.25mg is too much for me. From what ive read a low shbg makes hormonal changes dramatic also. Mine is 12

That is what I am currently experiencing too, I have aromasin on hand waiting for bloods to come back

 

[HarleyGuy]

I do it with a pill cutter but honestly even 0.25mg is too much for me. From what ive read a low shbg makes hormonal changes dramatic also. Mine is 12

Well there ya go. You can pill cut Aromasin way down and it’s much easier to dose to suit your needs which is why I say it’s more forgiving.

 

[Gabs]

I legit said 4 days ago never touching anastrozole again. Joint pains and mood swings are way too severe. Rather the high estrogen lol

 

[BeMe]

Just depends on everyone's circumstances bro. I played rugby leage when I was young and was a big hitter, put a lot of wear on my shoulders. Then when I started training I pushed myself too much at a young age. I used to dumbbell shoulder press 56kg at 18 for reps and do 80kg weighted dips. When youre young you think you're invincible

No I meant the replacement. I know hips are good for like 20 years and round about the same for knees. So people hold off on getting them until they're older cuz it's tough to replace a replacement.

 

[Gabs]

No I meant the replacement. I know hips are good for like 20 years and round about the same for knees. So people hold off on getting them until they're older cuz it's tough to replace a replacement.

Oh yeah.. thats the main reason the surgeons suggested i hold off. If I do it now ill most likely ruin the rubber joint and would have to go in to replace it. Especially with bodybuilding but also even with normal daily activities someone in their 30s does.

They recommend i hold off until in 40, they cant believe the condition of my shoulders at my age. I'll try everything else until they figure out a better way to fix the issue. Tech is advancing so God willing something better will come out soon. With the strength from God ill keep on the pain and staying on top of it for as long as possible

 

[BeMe]

Oh yeah.. thats the main reason the surgeons suggested i hold off. If I do it now ill most likely ruin the rubber joint and would have to go in to replace it. Especially with bodybuilding but also even with normal daily activities someone in their 30s does.

They recommend i hold off until in 40, they cant believe the condition of my shoulders at my age. I'll try everything else until they figure out a better way to fix the issue. Tech is advancing so God willing something better will come out soon. With the strength from God ill keep on the pain and staying on top of it for as long as possible

Yea I have a similar issue to you only with my wrist. I too am very hopeful about scientific advances. Go Ai!!!

Sux cuz there isn't really much you can do about arthritis. Just gotta minimize the degradation as much as possible

 

[Gabs]

Yea I have a similar issue to you only with my wrist. I too am very hopeful about scientific advances. Go Ai!!!

Sux cuz there isn't really much you can do about arthritis. Just gotta minimize the degradation as much as possible

100% brother. Hopefully something pops up for us soon in the future!

 

[Gabs]

Finally back into it and dialed in.

I was cleared 4 weeks ago by the doc and have since re-commenced cycle, dialed in both with training and diet.

Weight 87kg

Body fat aprox 14% now dropped down from 16% confirmed by dexa.

PED

Test e 315mg/week
Mast p 210mg/week
Hgh 3iu daily
Anavar 20mg per day (have just paused this a few days ago as Im doing 4 on 4 off 4 on for this cycle)
Reta 1.5mg per week
Hcg 500iu e4d

Supplements
Nac
Tudca
Taurine
Magnesium glycinate
Curcumin
Fish oil
Coq10
Vit d
Zinc
Glycine
Probiotics
Dijestive enzymes

Macros
I ensure protein is high, carbs are enough to fuel and recover and fats aren't too high otherwise digestion slows down.
2200-2500 cals
170-230g protein
150-300g carbs
70g-100g fats

Training

Monday
Chest, shoulders 20 sets chest 15 sets shoulders
Cardio 20 minutes zone 2

Tuesday
Back, biceps, side delts and rear delts 25 sets total (shoulders are high rep low weight for pump)
Cardio 20 minutes zone 2

Wednesday
Legs 25 sets

Thursday
Rest

Friday
Chest, shoulders, triceps 25-30 sets

Saturday
Back, biceps 20 sets
Cardio 20 mine zone 2

Sunday
Rest

I am very happy with my results so far being only 4 weeks in and feeling great.

Will post some progress photos tomorrow.

 

[Gabs]

Blood tests below

Prolactin is really high but libido is fine.
Estrogen is also really high which explains my water retention.

One thing im struggling to work out is why my free test has dropped so much. Previously on 300mg test my levels were 3700.

I was running aromasin 12.5mg e4d for 2 weeks leading up the the test (tested day after I was meant to take my next dose). Clearly is wasnt keeping up so I took 25mg as a start and will go to 12.5mg eod moving forward. Water retention dropped significantly day after the dose which was good.

Ive never dealt with high prolactin so not sure if lowering estrogen will sort it out entirely..

I also stopped anavar 4 days before the test

 

[Freki]

Blood tests below

Prolactin is really high but libido is fine.
Estrogen is also really high which explains my water retention.

One thing im struggling to work out is why my free test has dropped so much. Previously on 300mg test my levels were 3700.

I was running aromasin 12.5mg e4d for 2 weeks leading up the the test (tested day after I was meant to take my next dose). Clearly is wasnt keeping up so I took 25mg as a start and will go to 12.5mg eod moving forward. Water retention dropped significantly day after the dose which was good.

Ive never dealt with high prolactin so not sure if lowering estrogen will sort it out entirely..

I also stopped anavar 4 days before the test

Hey bro, good to see your back at it

 

[Dreamer]

Blood tests below

Prolactin is really high but libido is fine.
Estrogen is also really high which explains my water retention.

One thing im struggling to work out is why my free test has dropped so much. Previously on 300mg test my levels were 3700.

I was running aromasin 12.5mg e4d for 2 weeks leading up the the test (tested day after I was meant to take my next dose). Clearly is wasnt keeping up so I took 25mg as a start and will go to 12.5mg eod moving forward. Water retention dropped significantly day after the dose which was good.

Ive never dealt with high prolactin so not sure if lowering estrogen will sort it out entirely..

I also stopped anavar 4 days before the test

Lowering your estrogen will most likely lower your prolactin too, the important part is your not having symptoms, but e2 can stimulate prolactin yes

 

[Gabs]

Lowering your estrogen will most likely lower your prolactin too, the important part is your not having symptoms, but e2 can stimulate prolactin yes

What im confused about it ive had high h2 before, Im naturally a high aromatiser but never had high prolactin..

One symptom I noticed was hazy vision at rest and just a lot of subq water retention.

Hopefully aromasin helps. I was taking 12.5 e4d before the bloods which clearly wasnt working so I took 25mg to start but I think that dropped my e2 too far.
I was thinking 12.5 eod moving forward but not sure. First time using aromasin.

 

[LevButlerov]

Finally back into it and dialed in.

I was cleared 4 weeks ago by the doc and have since re-commenced cycle, dialed in both with training and diet.

Weight 87kg

Body fat aprox 14% now dropped down from 16% confirmed by dexa.

PED

Test e 315mg/week
Mast p 210mg/week
Hgh 3iu daily
Anavar 20mg per day (have just paused this a few days ago as Im doing 4 on 4 off 4 on for this cycle)
Reta 1.5mg per week
Hcg 500iu e4d

Supplements
Nac
Tudca
Taurine
Magnesium glycinate
Curcumin
Fish oil
Coq10
Vit d
Zinc
Glycine
Probiotics
Dijestive enzymes

Macros
I ensure protein is high, carbs are enough to fuel and recover and fats aren't too high otherwise digestion slows down.
2200-2500 cals
170-230g protein
150-300g carbs
70g-100g fats

Training

Monday
Chest, shoulders 20 sets chest 15 sets shoulders
Cardio 20 minutes zone 2

Tuesday
Back, biceps, side delts and rear delts 25 sets total (shoulders are high rep low weight for pump)
Cardio 20 minutes zone 2

Wednesday
Legs 25 sets

Thursday
Rest

Friday
Chest, shoulders, triceps 25-30 sets

Saturday
Back, biceps 20 sets
Cardio 20 mine zone 2

Sunday
Rest

I am very happy with my results so far being only 4 weeks in and feeling great.

Will post some progress photos tomorrow.

welcome back to the EVO family lets get some pics up to see where you're at @Gabs

 

[LevButlerov]

Blood tests below

Prolactin is really high but libido is fine.
Estrogen is also really high which explains my water retention.

One thing im struggling to work out is why my free test has dropped so much. Previously on 300mg test my levels were 3700.

I was running aromasin 12.5mg e4d for 2 weeks leading up the the test (tested day after I was meant to take my next dose). Clearly is wasnt keeping up so I took 25mg as a start and will go to 12.5mg eod moving forward. Water retention dropped significantly day after the dose which was good.

Ive never dealt with high prolactin so not sure if lowering estrogen will sort it out entirely..

I also stopped anavar 4 days before the test

this is deep analysis needed @Gabs please repost this bloods and some info in our blood work sub
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/blood-work-research-analysis.283/
easier for community to help

 

[Gabs]

welcome back to the EVO family lets get some pics up to see where you're at @Gabs

this is deep analysis needed @Gabs please repost this bloods and some info in our blood work sub
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/blood-work-research-analysis.283/
easier for community to help

Thanks bros. I'll post some pics this afternoon and upload to bloods section!

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bros. I'll post some pics this afternoon and upload to bloods section!

please do

 

[Gabs]

 

[Gabs]

I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue.

 

[LevButlerov]

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I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue. View attachment 169194View attachment 169195

before and after you look amazing really a new man EVO family support and love your way for doing this, huge change! @Gabs

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz
@Trenhead3cc

 

[Dreamer]

Wow @Gabs, that must feel incredible to look back on, this is a serious achievement and one not everyone can do, you should be incredibly proud of yourself

 

[Coolguy]

Awesome work brother.
We are proud of you for sticking through it.

 

[Pigsy]

before and after you look amazing really a new man EVO family support and love your way for doing this, huge change! @Gabs

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
@Coolguy @toddthelineman @Sheshredz
@Trenhead3cc

Now this is motivation

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Awesome work bro! That’s an amazing transformation, you should be so proud of yourself! Love to see these transformations and people turning their lives around

 

[waggat]

Blood tests below

Prolactin is really high but libido is fine.
Estrogen is also really high which explains my water retention.

One thing im struggling to work out is why my free test has dropped so much. Previously on 300mg test my levels were 3700.

I was running aromasin 12.5mg e4d for 2 weeks leading up the the test (tested day after I was meant to take my next dose). Clearly is wasnt keeping up so I took 25mg as a start and will go to 12.5mg eod moving forward. Water retention dropped significantly day after the dose which was good.

Ive never dealt with high prolactin so not sure if lowering estrogen will sort it out entirely..

I also stopped anavar 4 days before the test

E2 isn't crazy high. Sounds like 12.5mg aromasin EOD would be about right.

Regarding the free T levels, were both tests taken at the same time relative to last pin?

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Looking good in these photos mate. Big and powerful look. Crazy difference to the before photos from Oct 2024!

 

[HarleyGuy]

I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue. View attachment 169194View attachment 169195

So glad you posted the before and after because this shows you haven't been slacking AT ALL in your absence on EVO and deserve and earned the praise you are getting bro. Great transformation!

I'm gonna hop over to the blood thread because we'll need to address those.

For those that want to take a look at the feedback it's all here: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/high-prolactin-and-high-estrogen-during-cycle.108782/

 

[Gabs]

Thanks a lot boys! Body dismorphia is a real thing because I still ain't happy lol!
Still have a long way to go and very keen to see where the next few months take me.
Much love brothers, appreciate the love and support!

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Great work brother!

 

[Gabs]

Great work brother!

Thanks brother!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks a lot boys! Body dismorphia is a real thing because I still ain't happy lol!
Still have a long way to go and very keen to see where the next few months take me.
Much love brothers, appreciate the love and support!

Body dysmorphia is the shit! Don’t leave home without it!!

 

[Gabs]

Body dysmorphia is the shit! Don’t leave home without it!!

100%!

 

[Mobster]

Leaner and traps a-popping

 

[Mobster]

Life, inc injuries, will always try to get in the way. How you deal with it is on you

 

[Gabs]

Life, inc injuries, will always try to get in the way. How you deal with it is on you

I definitely agree.
Training with no cartridge in both shoulders is a huge challenge and would keep most out of the gym but with the grace of God and throwing pride out the window while in the gym and picking exercises that work specifically for me, it can be done.

 

[stevesmi]

I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue. View attachment 169194View attachment 169195

@Gabs definitely nice job getting things on track. I think if we all posted a picture of our worst in life, we would be very ashamed of ourselves.

 

[ROIDDERS]

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You're definitely gonna have no problem reaching your goals on this log. We expect you to be sub 10% within the next year. Let's do this! @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

@Gabs definitely nice job getting things on track. I think if we all posted a picture of our worst in life, we would be very ashamed of ourselves.

Was well overdue bro. I used to be 10% bf in the gym 5 days a week for 8 years since 15. Then let myself go bad.
Will never again let that happen!

 

[Gabs]

You're definitely gonna have no problem reaching your goals on this log. We expect you to be sub 10% within the next year. Let's do this! @Gabs

I hope so brother, definitely going to give it my best!

 

[2Thick]

I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue. View attachment 169194View attachment 169195

This is a great start to this log. @Gabs seeing where you were, seeing where you are, and then having a goal of going where you want to go is very important.

 

[stevesmi]

Was well overdue bro. I used to be 10% bf in the gym 5 days a week for 8 years since 15. Then let myself go bad.
Will never again let that happen!

Yes, for sure man I let myself go as well after college

 

[ceo]

I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue. View attachment 169194View attachment 169195

@Gabs bros, thanks a lot for posting these pictures. I got out of shape like hell after my injury when I fell through a ceiling doing my plumbing job. It took me two years to get back so it's good to see where you were before. That gives everyone motivation and yourself too.

 

[Ulter]

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Make sure you put in the consistency in the gym that will yield the conditioning and that will really help your body. It's going to take some time but keep at it and be consistent. @Gabs

 

[ballin2504]

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@gave looking good here man

 

[ballin2504]

I havent given a background to this log and it was probably lackint but just a comparison to where i was at october 2024. Its been a i only started back in the gym consistently june this year but pulled back after 8 weeks due to an injury.
Then had the above issues can more set backs.
But the last month has been fully dialed and Im quite eager to see where I stand at the end of this cycle. My plan is to get to 10% body fat while continuing to increase lean tissue. View attachment 169194View attachment 169195

@Gabs made some really great progress

 

[Gabs]

This is a great start to this log. @Gabs seeing where you were, seeing where you are, and then having a goal of going where you want to go is very important.

Thanks man. If you saw where I was before I let myself go you would understand why it hurt a lot more and why the goal post keeps moving. Gym was my second home, and it is again now!

 

[Gabs]

Yes, for sure man I let myself go as well after college

I think most of us do at some point in our lives bro. Mine was after getting married and having kids

 

[Gabs]

@Gabs bros, thanks a lot for posting these pictures. I got out of shape like hell after my injury when I fell through a ceiling doing my plumbing job. It took me two years to get back so it's good to see where you were before. That gives everyone motivation and yourself too.

That sounds rough brother, im glad you also got back into it.
Life will always throw us a curve ball at some point, we just need to persevere!

 

[stevesmi]

I think most of us do at some point in our lives bro. Mine was after getting married and having kids

yeah a lot of guys get married and figure 'hey i'm married, why do i need to look good anymore?"
post college and steady gf who didn't take care of herself either did me in.

 

[Gabs]

Make sure you put in the consistency in the gym that will yield the conditioning and that will really help your body. It's going to take some time but keep at it and be consistent. @Gabs

Definitely am and will continue to, have a long way to go but im enjoying the journey!

 

[ceo]

That sounds rough brother, im glad you also got back into it.
Life will always throw us a curve ball at some point, we just need to persevere!

Bros, hell yeah! Doctors said that I couldn't walk but one doctor said I would. I came back hard and look at me now.