Yes, trying to recover fertility. I’m 39 and so is my missus, so it has to happen soon.Good to see you read @CypherOCE Log @Chowmanly big EVO family respect to him for pushing through this.
what is your situation @Chowmanly ? you are trying to recover fertility? would be nice for you to share
and check @bss log he has an amazing journey as well on fertility
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...is-trt-recovery-protocol-with-hcg-hmg.106749/
I did basically two years on TRT with some mild blasts in between — nothing crazy, mainly masteron and oxandrolone — and never went above 200 mg test per week, with fantastic results.
Last pin was on 15/12, so I’m heading into week 9. PCT consisted of two weeks of high-dose HCG followed by clomiphene 50 mg (it sucked hard — clomiphene is brutal). I managed to get some enclomiphene and have been on 25 mg for the past two weeks.
First blood test at week 3 showed total test and free test below reference, SHBG high, and LH/FSH very low. Once clomiphene kicked in, total test went through the roof, but free test didn’t follow because E2 and SHBG shot up. LH improved further, but FSH has been lagging.
Semen analysis at week 6 showed low count (1.2 million), but other parameters were just above range. I’ve since added HMG at 75 IU three times per week and HCG 250 IU three times per week, and I’m maintaining clomiphene for now. I’m also running plenty of ancillaries and supplements to support things — probably overkill.
Overall, it seems like I’m on the right path, but I’m finding it challenging to ejaculate, which has never been an issue in my life. Libido hasn’t fully recovered either, so it’s hard to perform when needed, but I’ve been managing it. I know I need to get SHBG down to bring free test back up. I’ve been on boron 5 mg daily and had bloods done today to see if it’s helping and whether enclomiphene is making a difference (it certainly helped with mood already), also started very low dose anastrozole at 0.125mg pw.
I really sympathized with the OP — anxiety plays a big part during PCT, especially with the pressure of trying to conceive. I’m wondering whether I should go back on low-dose TRT and increase HMG and HCG, following his path, or continue on this current journey. I want to get a baby on the way, then It’ll be blast and cruise for life. I understand spermatogenesis hasn’t fully matured yet, so another semen analysis is due mid-March.
I also had an endocrinologist prescribe Proviron at 50 mg daily during PCT, as he said it can help with sperm morphology. I understand it’ll help libido and probably tank SHBG, freeing up more testosterone, but from what I’ve gathered it may work against fertility. I only took it for the first three weeks of PCT, then stopped (had a great time while on it, haha).
His protocol was clomiphene 50 mg daily, HCG 2,500 IU twice weekly, and Proviron 50 mg split AM/PM — continue until pregnancy occurs.
I’ve attached blood results for weeks 3, 5, and 7, plus the semen analysis.
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