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gavlad30

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Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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it looks like you may have nuked your estrogen eq is potent. I would Lower the eq or drop it until u find out where your e2 is at from your bloodwork. The same for arimdex aswell . See what the others say thats my humble opinon
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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Get rid of your coach, go get a LCMS e2 test , and as fluffy said drop the eq till you get the results back. And definitely dont take adex till you see blood results
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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Figuratively, your coach needs his ass whipped. You know more than he does. This is infuriating. Personally, if I had no better knowledge to work from, I would drop everything but the test for now and get those bloods asap. Fire the coach and start a log. You’ll be way better off.
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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Test:Eq ratio has more than likely tanked your e2 coupled with the extremely unneeded dose of arimadex @ 3mg a week…get rid of coach and spread the word that this guy is a muppet so he doesn’t do this to other people…if you need a reliable coach that knows what he’s doing and actually cares + listens reach out to @Gains Man
You can have a look at my log and see what he’s been doing for me
 
Freki said:
Get rid of your coach, go get a LCMS e2 test , and as fluffy said drop the eq till you get the results back. And definitely dont take adex till you see blood results
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This.

Plus post stats
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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You should get rid of this "coach" and get bloodwork. You've prob tanked your estrogen.
This cycle he gave you sucks.
Luckily you are asking questions and not just blindly following this idiot.
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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That will tank your estrogen into oblivion.
Upping your test could help or it could hurt. Hard to say. What is your experience with gear?
 
stevesmi said:
That will tank your estrogen into oblivion.
Upping your test could help or it could hurt. Hard to say. What is your experience with gear?
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Running gear for 3 years now, never had such an issue before, used 1mg a week of arimdex before on a test 600 npp 300, because of sides and it fixed it.
This is my first time using eq and masteron. How do I go about getting my estrogen back to normal then ? Just drop the eq and mast ? Or do I change the dosages? Ill post bloods next week.
Thanks for your feedback lads really appreciate it 🙏
 
gavlad30 said:
Running gear for 3 years now, never had such an issue before, used 1mg a week of arimdex before on a test 600 npp 300, because of sides and it fixed it.
This is my first time using eq and masteron. How do I go about getting my estrogen back to normal then ? Just drop the eq and mast ? Or do I change the dosages? Ill post bloods next week.
Thanks for your feedback lads really appreciate it 🙏
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Drop the eq and Arimidex post blood work then we can adjust from there.
Keep using test and mast your estrogen will return
 
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gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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gavlad30 said:
Running gear for 3 years now, never had such an issue before, used 1mg a week of arimdex before on a test 600 npp 300, because of sides and it fixed it.
This is my first time using eq and masteron. How do I go about getting my estrogen back to normal then ? Just drop the eq and mast ? Or do I change the dosages? Ill post bloods next week.
Thanks for your feedback lads really appreciate it 🙏
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welcome to the EVO family @gavlad30 I see you joined a while back but this is something that just came up or was it there before?
your last thread you posted bloods
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/blood-test-advice.104800
but they already showed e2 trending down.
we asked you to log for us then but you ignored us and kept on with the cycle and this is the result you have now unfortunately
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/blood-test-advice.104800/post-1752991

My overall view is Low e2 sounds likely here, the mast and eq both suppress aromatization so 3 mg arimidex weekly could crash you fast. Drop the AI completely for now and let levels recover before making any new dose changes.

We don’t know enough yet though since everyone’s response differs, could also be thyroid, dopamine, or even just over suppression from too clean of a stack. Bloods will confirm it.

Start a proper log so we can track mood, energy, lifts, and e2 symptoms week by week, that’ll make it easier to fine tune your ratios and AI use next cycle. I hope this time you learn your lesson and actually start a log! it takes 15min and you wont feel like shit again!

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?
  • Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
  • Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
  • The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
  • Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
  • Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590
 
Boys, you NEED estrogen!

You obviously don’t want levels at a female, but if you crash it to a menopausal women, you’re going to feel horrible!

Do you know any 80 year old women who feel like lifting weight?
 
gavlad30 said:
Running gear for 3 years now, never had such an issue before, used 1mg a week of arimdex before on a test 600 npp 300, because of sides and it fixed it.
This is my first time using eq and masteron. How do I go about getting my estrogen back to normal then ? Just drop the eq and mast ? Or do I change the dosages? Ill post bloods next week.
Thanks for your feedback lads really appreciate it 🙏
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Identify what u are doing now vs before and correct it

Estrogen is easy to figure out with simple bloods
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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I'm running out and haven't checked what the other mods have said but they should have you covered.

My two cents is your coach is an imbecile and doesn't know the intricacies of gear usage.

A 1:1 ratio of test/eq will in itself usually nuke your e2 and arimidex at 3mg will ensure it's scorched earth nuked.

This what having no e2 feels like and it sucks, and I like my e2 in the mid-high range at that.

Drop the eq in half and shitcan the arimidex and you should feel better in about 3 weeks. And tell your coach I said this and can come on here and DM me if he wants to debate why!
 
JimmyO187 said:
Test:Eq ratio has more than likely tanked your e2 coupled with the extremely unneeded dose of arimadex @ 3mg a week…get rid of coach and spread the word that this guy is a muppet so he doesn’t do this to other people…if you need a reliable coach that knows what he’s doing and actually cares + listens reach out to @Gains Man
You can have a look at my log and see what he’s been doing for me
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Thanks so much for the recommendation brother ❤
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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Nobody can say what can happen. The problem here is things will change in your body. So what worked before may not work in the future. You need to Log your experience so we can guide you.
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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Bros. It's honestly hard to answer this question. But you certainly need to change directions. That's why we recommend logging so we can help get you the right direction.
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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I don't think adding more steroids is ever the solution when things are going off. I think it makes more sense to reevaluate what you're doing. Get a Log going so we know more about you and your history.
 
gavlad30 said:
Hey lads looking for some advice...
my online coach has me on a cycle of 300 test 300 eq 200 mast. Im about 7 weeks in. I told him i havent been feeling myself at all, no motivation bit of depression.. he told me take arimdex 3 mg a week ..
Will that not make it worse? Shouldn't i up the test..?
Will get bloods done next week,
Looking for another opinion.
cheers lads
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At the end of the day you've got to make some changes on this. That's not the way you want to run a cycle. Make sure you get your Log going. Let's see.
 
@gavlad30 Apologies if I came across stern but bad coaching gets me wound up and it always will. You're more than welcome here and if you start a log we can give you all the guidance you need to help you feel better!
 
First off I’d get bloods
 
HarleyGuy said:
@gavlad30 Apologies if I came across stern but bad coaching gets me wound up and it always will. You're more than welcome here and if you start a log we can give you all the guidance you need to help you feel better!
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did you DM @gavlad30 ? I did nothing from him
 
gavlad30 said:
With that sort my e2 out? I havent bloods yet just feeling depressed and hopeless. Ive never had this feeling in my life
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Hard to say but it will def help. We are all different. If I took this stack I would have no issue with estrogen. You obviously do.
You may be able to get some estrogen conversion going by taking a big shot of test or if you have some dbol you could take 50mg of that for a week and drop the mast.
 
s.gentz said:
Hard to say but it will def help. We are all different. If I took this stack I would have no issue with estrogen. You obviously do.
You may be able to get some estrogen conversion going by taking a big shot of test or if you have some dbol you could take 50mg of that for a week and drop the mast.
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Yea I aromatise easy enough its my first time using these compounds, other cycles of test and npp i needed arimidex my last cycle was test primo npp that was fine
 
gavlad30 said:
Yea I aromatise easy enough its my first time using these compounds, other cycles of test and npp i needed arimidex my last cycle was test primo npp that was fine
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Drop the mast. Double your test for the next week and then go back to what you are taking now for test. After that it's a waiting game for mast to clear and estrogen to come up.
 
gavlad30 said:
So keep eq at 300 and double test to 600 ? Mast was mast P If that makes a difference
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THis is good. Will be out of your system in a week or so.
And yes, double the test for 1 week. Keep EQ the same. Then after next week just run 300mg/wk of each and check bloods to see where you are at.
 
gavlad30 said:
With that sort my e2 out? I havent bloods yet just feeling depressed and hopeless. Ive never had this feeling in my life
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Bro if you can, get bloods right away! It takes two weeks to get high sensitivity estradiol results back. If you change things, then keep waiting, finally get blood results, it could be a moth or more and you won’t even know where you were at when your problems were at their peak.

I just did bloods three weeks ago. The first e2 results said 40. Pretty ok, just a point out of range. Two weeks later I got the high sensitivity results, the accurate results. 83! Huge difference. Get the bloods as soon as you can.

You are suffering currently, I still think dropping everything but the testosterone is a good move. Fuck that shit man.
 
Sheshredz said:
Boys, you NEED estrogen!

You obviously don’t want levels at a female, but if you crash it to a menopausal women, you’re going to feel horrible!

Do you know any 80 year old women who feel like lifting weight?
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@Sheshredz I just came across this post and it's a really good insight especially coming from a female. I encourage you to let loose on any knowledge you have which clearly you have a lot (as per your log). And yes, I prefer my estrogen mid range or even a bit higher, never low!
 
Sheshredz said:
Boys, you NEED estrogen!

You obviously don’t want levels at a female, but if you crash it to a menopausal women, you’re going to feel horrible!

Do you know any 80 year old women who feel like lifting weight?
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I agree. I feel so much better with estrogen. High is not great feeling but low feels the worse. For men it's that sweet spot in the middle or for me a little above mid.
 
HarleyGuy said:
@Sheshredz I just came across this post and it's a really good insight especially coming from a female. I encourage you to let loose on any knowledge you have which clearly you have a lot (as per your log). And yes, I prefer my estrogen mid range or even a bit higher, never low!
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Yeah a lot of guys don't understand the relationship of test/estrogen. They want high test but don't realize that estrogen is on a linear path with test. It's OK to let it rise as long as it's not out of control and your not getting symptoms. Mine always sits on the higher end but I feel great with no ill effects.
 
HarleyGuy said:
@Sheshredz I just came across this post and it's a really good insight especially coming from a female. I encourage you to let loose on any knowledge you have which clearly you have a lot (as per your log). And yes, I prefer my estrogen mid range or even a bit higher, never low!
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I dont have anything particular, i just think that most levels in your body should be "even".

There is obviously things you want high and low, but most things ideally should be in the middle. I think eostrogren is one (for guys).
 
Sheshredz said:
I dont have anything particular, i just think that most levels in your body should be "even".

There is obviously things you want high and low, but most things ideally should be in the middle. I think eostrogren is one (for guys).
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Very true!
 
Sheshredz said:
I dont have anything particular, i just think that most levels in your body should be "even".

There is obviously things you want high and low, but most things ideally should be in the middle. I think eostrogren is one (for guys).
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I am currently playing with my Arimidex to find the sweet spot. Getting blood work see where I am at then make an adjustment then run that for a few weeks get blood work again. Keep adjusting until I find the sweet spot. I will say this when I am low it's worse then being high. I tend to like mine mid high. Just got to find the right amount of AI to keep it there.
 
kcates said:
I am currently playing with my Arimidex to find the sweet spot. Getting blood work see where I am at then make an adjustment then run that for a few weeks get blood work again. Keep adjusting until I find the sweet spot. I will say this when I am low it's worse then being high. I tend to like mine mid high. Just got to find the right amount of AI to keep it there.
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Low e2 is the worst! mid high is my preference too.
 
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