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Mobster the “moderator”

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Who here thinks @Mobster has any valuable input to the aussie communitiy?
Any valuable input to any of our logs with workouts and diets, Gear usage?

Isnt a moderator supposed to have some sort of good advice and help others to be a better version of themselves?

I know thats what @Pigsy does even for the newbies who have no fucking idea.

@Mobster just comes in to take the piss and thinks he is the fucking best cunt around.

@Mobster Dont comment on any of our logs, posts, threads, anything. Just stay in your lane “mobster” 😂

Please feel free to comment on your experiences with him good(🤣) or bad. Let it be known what type of moderator he is and what he means to the aussie community.
And dont forget your n2guard boys💪
 
My 2 cents.

I’ve recently joined EVO and built the courage to do my first log. @Pigsy has set the bar in the lifting community as a mod the same way that bar is set in the real world. A mentor, a coach, an uplifting voice for physiques across the whole board.

@Mobster has failed this industry as a whole with his useless and negative comments shaming others. We have a young 15 year old @ our gym with Down syndrome who comes in daily and gives it a go, and I can’t imagine if I’d leave any teeth in another man’s jaw if they spoke to him the same way @Mobster does

I entered the gym for the first time 17 years ago and it’s a place where everyone automatically becomes brothers, lifting each other up and gives people another chance at battling the messes of the real world. @Mobster energy is the complete opposite, I can’t imagine the affect his words would have on someone not as mentally strong who came to this website as a safe place to start their fitness journey

I don’t care if my comment or account gets deleted. @Mobster you’re a piece of shit mate, I’ll gladly ragdoll you and use your head as a mop but the problem is you’re probably that pumped with Tren that you’ll enjoy it and suffer from the famous Tren gay
 
Disappointing to see someone who’s “staff” and a “senior moderator” make sexist comments towards a man who’s actively in the gym bettering himself, all while logging so evo can keep their traffic up and charge more for sponsors.

Charles Bronson looking cunt

He tried to kiss me too the weirdo
 
I commented back to his negativity a few times and I’m now 3 for 3 positive comments from him so things are looking up for me 💪🏽

he did make me want to scrap my log at one point though which I hate admitting because it’s the best decision I’ve ever made to start logging
 
Mobster is ok . Thing is , this is internet .
It’s just words .
Words get lost in translation in text.
You ever actually had a conversation with him ?
Why are the boys from ugloz chat not happy with mobster today ?
 
Yeah i have found him more negative than positive. A person in his position should be more encouraging than discouraging. Also I have listened to the podcast as I listen to many to further expand my PED knowledge. I take his comments with a grain of salt. Unless I want to get fat as fuck and be a powerlifter and only impress blokes. Then yeah might listen to his advice. But he talks about all these compounds with no real life experience using them unless it’s the Dbol, Deca primarily.
 
Been saying this since I started logging my journey a long time ago. I have called him out multiple times and told him to keep his stupid comments to himself.
Fuck knows how he even is a moderator honestly.

At one point I became really sick and lost an unhealthy amount of weight, his response was “6 kilo’s down, great effort”

He goes against everything you “staff members” advocate for.
 
I have just started my log, coming back from an injury so my weights are on the milder side so I don't aggravate the injuries anymore. Every comment on my log has been positive... Except Mobster, who is the most senior person I think to comment on my log

He wrote "All crazy light. There are girls at my gym who lift more"

Now before anyone says that is not what it says on my log, it is because he edited his original comment and deleted comments that were defending me.

I know a certain someone here likes screen shots - so yes, I have them to show the original message from him.

This is a big turn off from me and my friends from being part of this community if thats how the senior guys act.
 
You
Mobster is ok . Thing is , this is internet .
It’s just words .
Words get lost in translation in text.
You ever actually had a conversation with him ?
Why are the boys from ugloz chat not happy with mobster today ?
You can kiss his ass in private,no need to do it publicly
 
Who here thinks @Mobster has any valuable input to the aussie communitiy?
Any valuable input to any of our logs with workouts and diets, Gear usage?

Isnt a moderator supposed to have some sort of good advice and help others to be a better version of themselves?

I know thats what @Pigsy does even for the newbies who have no fucking idea.

@Mobster just comes in to take the piss and thinks he is the fucking best cunt around.

@Mobster Dont comment on any of our logs, posts, threads, anything. Just stay in your lane “mobster” 😂

Please feel free to comment on your experiences with him good(🤣) or bad. Let it be known what type of moderator he is and what he means to the aussie community.
And dont forget your n2guard boys💪
Do a log. Do a log. Do a log. That's it
 
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Yeah i have found him more negative than positive. A person in his position should be more encouraging than discouraging. Also I have listened to the podcast as I listen to many to further expand my PED knowledge. I take his comments with a grain of salt. Unless I want to get fat as fuck and be a powerlifter and only impress blokes. Then yeah might listen to his advice. But he talks about all these compounds with no real life experience using them unless it’s the Dbol, Deca primarily.
Does anyone here commenting or offering advice NEED to have had real world experience of ALL steroids? No. If, as has been pointed out, I train for strength then it makes sense that I'll use PEDs which aid that. It's also why we have two hosts per show. So that if one hasn't the other might. Stevesmi, for example, has never used Cheque Drops. His experience of Tren is more than mine (much more limited). In order to do a show I do NOT need to have tried every steroid there is. Nor every brand.

You said that you listened to the show to expand your PED knowledge. Good. It means you don't need to try them all too in order to know. Kinda how it works right?
 
Just your choose of words sometimes are poor, negative and lacking. Maybe it in your person to talk like this. The EVO family is ment to be a positive and supportive place. Some join after injury others for mental health and well being. Been working hard to get more Logs and engagement on EVO. When they get hit with negative and hurtful comments, and then I have to work at keeping them active to help the keep EVO engagement.

Let's keep the EVO family as a place of positive and encouragement. Not a place where we put each other down.

My 2 cents
Pigsy
 
I work with mobster a lot with the podcasts and he is also a big part of this team on evo. so i know him more then anyone on here. he is also VERY knowledgeable on this stuff. i mean he is a world record holder and is strong as hell and that doesn't come by accident.

i had a talk with mobster today and i understand that miscommunication can happen but i assure you mobster cares about every single one of you and wants everyone to succeed 100%. in no way did he ever mean to put anyone down! that is not what he is all about and working with him for years he has not once ever had a single bad thing to say about any of you, in fact he ALWAYS has defended every member on here even those who have broke rules (aside from scammers of course). he is truly a man for the people and always has your backs

i also understand that sometimes telling someone to lift more weights or you are doing baby weights etc. can be encouraging on one end of the spectrum but also can be insulting on the other end. I GET IT... i was a weight lifting coach and some of the guys i worked with had to be talked to a certain way while others actually loved to be kicked in the ass hard to get the most out of them. and then there are the in between situations. when i was competing my coach in college used to push me hard because there was nobody even close to me in my weight class, so i had to have SOMEONE to compete against so i could improve, otherwise i would have not been able to compete at the next level if that makes sense. my football coach once ran on the field and cursed me out for missing a block and i LOVED IT, why? cause it showed me that he thought i had potential . after the game i even went up to him and thanked him and promised him i would never miss that block again and he gave me a pat on the helmet and said "I yell at you cause i love you!"

let's all just move on and let it go instead of beating a dead horse, or in your cases beat a dead kangaroo :P
if there is any issues that arise in the future (which i doubt there will be) just reach out to one of us next time. that would make more sense then having a thread like this only divides. there are a few of you on this thread that i welcome to PM me or mobster personally if you still feel like your voice hasn't been heard. let's all just unite as brothers in arms going forward
 
There are better ways to motivate another's to work and lift harder, Times have changed. All I'm saving is the choose of words is poor. Yes he is a record holder, there also so many here who are high achieving in many different areas. I love the EVO family hopefully this remains. As it's so off putting these comments on new loggers

Pigsy
 
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Just your choose of words sometimes are poor, negative and lacking. Maybe it in your person to talk like this. The EVO family is ment to be a positive and supportive place. Some join after injury others for mental health and well being. Been working hard to get more Logs and engagement on EVO. When they get hit with negative and hurtful comments, and then I have to work at keeping them active to help the keep EVO engagement.

Let's keep the EVO family as a place of positive and encouragement. Not a place where we put each other down.

My 2 cents
Pigsy
well said bro
 
guys I spoke to Pigsy and Mobster today

and we will continue to talk. again any concerns please feel free to reach out to any of us in the future. i don't see any of this being not correctable.
 
Just your choose of words sometimes are poor, negative and lacking. Maybe it in your person to talk like this. The EVO family is ment to be a positive and supportive place. Some join after injury others for mental health and well being. Been working hard to get more Logs and engagement on EVO. When they get hit with negative and hurtful comments, and then I have to work at keeping them active to help the keep EVO engagement.

Let's keep the EVO family as a place of positive and encouragement. Not a place where we put each other down.

My 2 cents
Pigsy
💯. Bit discouraging to be quite happy with your transformation - as you live in your own skin and body. To be told from a before and after photo of a cycle “I don’t see the difference” Meanwhile I have gone from size 38 to 34 in 4 months. And kept the scales basically the same.
 
Just your choose of words sometimes are poor, negative and lacking. Maybe it in your person to talk like this. The EVO family is ment to be a positive and supportive place. Some join after injury others for mental health and well being. Been working hard to get more Logs and engagement on EVO. When they get hit with negative and hurtful comments, and then I have to work at keeping them active to help the keep EVO engagement.

Let's keep the EVO family as a place of positive and encouragement. Not a place where we put each other down.

My 2 cents
Pigsy
@Pigsy I agree, the EVO family is a judgement free zone with LOVE and Support for our family members. :)
But like with any family, sometimes things get out of hand and things are said that aren't meant to be negative but come off so.

From the whole EVO staff, I'd like to apologize to Aussie brothers and sisters. We will do our best to improve our approach to all the EVO family members.
 
@Pigsy I agree, the EVO family is a judgement free zone with LOVE and Support for our family members. :)
But like with any family, sometimes things get out of hand and things are said that aren't meant to be negative but come off so.

From the whole EVO staff, I'd like to apologize to Aussie brothers and sisters. We will do our best to improve our approach to all the EVO family members.
to add to my statement:

@Mobster is an amazing part of the EVO family, he's my favorite on the podcast (sorry steve @stevesmi 😁). He's a true champion and an oldschool veteran. @Mobster you have my full respect and support, and I hope we can put this behind us and come to positive terms with all the Aussie brothers.
 
to add to my statement:

@Mobster is an amazing part of the EVO family, he's my favorite on the podcast (sorry steve @stevesmi 😁). He's a true champion and an oldschool veteran. @Mobster you have my full respect and support, and I hope we can put this behind us and come to positive terms with all the Aussie brothers.
Thank you for your response, this is just a minor setback. Let's get back to being real, training hard, get nutrition on put and doing this safe as possible to support and giving great advice. Let's keep EVO family strong 💪💪
 
💯. Bit discouraging to be quite happy with your transformation - as you live in your own skin and body. To be told from a before and after photo of a cycle “I don’t see the difference” Meanwhile I have gone from size 38 to 34 in 4 months. And kept the scales basically the same.
solid effort bro
 
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I have just started my log, coming back from an injury so my weights are on the milder side so I don't aggravate the injuries anymore. Every comment on my log has been positive... Except Mobster, who is the most senior person I think to comment on my log

He wrote "All crazy light. There are girls at my gym who lift more"

Now before anyone says that is not what it says on my log, it is because he edited his original comment and deleted comments that were defending me.

I know a certain someone here likes screen shots - so yes, I have them to show the original message from him.

This is a big turn off from me and my friends from being part of this community if thats how the senior guys act.
I dont comment here much or even know who mobster is but everyone here is trying to better themselves and to read this genuinely makes me feel upset. We all need to support each other.
 
Sorry brother @DinoSaur isn't very good at sharing
😢 oh well not like there's a shortage of that on line anyway i mean i live in SF wear guys walk around town naked.
plus i got some good stuff too according to the reviews. 😉
i just don't have have abs to go with it.

i'm gonna go stand over there and be sad. 🤷
 
In this guys defence. At least he actually read my log and replied appropriately.

99% of the comments I've received so far have to be some kind or generated responses or they're fucking brain dead.
 
I've had the opportunity of getting to know mobster pretty well, I've done a podcast as a guest for an hour with him and stevesmi, he joked around with me offered me great training tips and advice, he was very professional as well. This is my take on the situation and from my perspective.

Mobster is old-school he has seen alot done alot, he also knows a ton of information about the industry among various other things. Old-school guys like mobster are not easily impressed and they expect people to work hard and put in max effort, the reason he calls out something on a log is because he realizes a person's true potential and what they are capable of and he wants to see people have growth in a mental and physical aspect.

Mobster was very hard on me in the beginning and I didn't take it as disrespectful at all, I looked at it as ok one day I will earn his respect and when I have it I will know it, I made a comment on my own log being old at 36 and trying to go for a pro card, Mobster said 36 is nothing you will kill it! If that isn't positive high praise I don't know what is at this point.

Mobster is very critical and that is ok he does it because he might see something we aren't seeing and in the end it is so he can help you. I know he was hard on me for a while all it did was fuel me to push harder and get after it and I appreciated thr criticism overall.

I also have spoken with him plenty in dm together and he has always joked around with me offered me advice, spoke about daily life, he always encouraged me is a good man overall and a person i consider a friend, he always made time for me if I had a question. Alot of my interaction with him was way before I was staff or part of the team I want to also add that in.

I think sometimes people see something typed and if it was said verbally they would not take it in a negative context when he replies.

I don't like to bash people or speak negative on someone, for me and imo Mobster is a big part of evo and I've learned alot from him with articles he has written and the podcast he is a co-host on.

At the end of the day we all might disagree and that is ok, long term goal should always be a place where everyone feels welcome and wants to contribute with this awesome community we all have helped build up. I know we are all here for different reasons and I respect what everyone is doing with a log and brings to the table, at the end of the day I just want us all to keep up the hard work and come together as a family, we are stronger united together than divided, this is the one place we can all go and escape the bs of the real world, we are all in the iron game and love what we do, so let's all help one another grow and become our best version together.

Wixx
 
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I've had the opportunity of getting to know mobster pretty well, I've done a podcast as a guest for an hour with him and stevesmi, he joked around with me offered me great training tips and advice, he was very professional as well. This is my take on the situation and from my perspective.

Mobster is old-school he has seen alot done alot, he also knows a ton of information about the industry among various other things. Old-school guys like mobster are not easily impressed and they expect people to work hard and put in max effort, the reason he calls out something on a log is because he realizes a person's true potential and what they are capable of and he wants to see people have growth in a mental and physical aspect.

Mobster was very hard on me in the beginning and I didn't take it as disrespectful at all, I looked at it as ok one day I will earn his respect and when I have it I will know it, I made a comment on my own log being old at 36 and trying to go for a pro card, Mobster said 36 is nothing you will kill it! If that isn't positive high praise I don't know what is at this point.

Mobster is very critical and that is ok he does it because he might see something we aren't seeing and in the end it is so he can help you. I know he was hard on me for a while all it did was fuel me to push harder and get after it and I appreciated thr criticism overall.

I also have spoken with him plenty in dm together and he has always joked around with me offered me advice, spoke about daily life, he always encouraged me is a good man overall and a person i consider a friend, he always made time for me if I had a question. Alot of my interaction with him was way before I was staff or part of the team I want to also add that in.

I think sometimes people see something typed and if it was said verbally they would not take it in a negative context when he replies.

I don't like to bash people or speak negative on someone, for me and imo Mobster is a big part of evo and I've learned alot from him with articles he has written and the podcast he is a co-host on.

At the end of the day we all might disagree and that is ok, long term goal should always be a place where everyone feels welcome and wants to contribute with this awesome community we all have helped build up. I know we are all here for different reasons and I respect what everyone is doing with a log and brings to the table, at the end of the day I just want us all to keep up the hard work and come together as a family, we are stronger united together than divided, this is the one place we can all go and escape the bs of the real world, we are all in the iron game and love what we do, so let's all help one another grow and become our best version together.
i've listened to the podcasts where you hear him and steve's voices which... 1. are , not what you might expect ( since we all just use our imagination in these cases till we hear) and 2 when you hear both of them can tell he's they nice and also funny. the internet in general and social media in particular (where everything is text form) just are just generally bad bad for us i think.
 
i've listened to the podcasts where you hear him and steve's voices which... 1. are , not what you might expect ( since we all just use our imagination in these cases till we hear) and 2 when you hear both of them can tell he's they nice and also funny. the internet in general and social media in particular (where everything is text form) just are just generally bad bad for us i think.
Yeah that's why in a community it is super important getting to know people, like if u looked at me you would not think I was the way I am, you and I have spoken alot in private and I'm not anything how my appearance would make me look like, same with if u play the interviews I've been part of with the podcast on evo, it's one of the many reasons why I wanted to be on it, so people can hear me abd see what I'm about, so when I type something to you, you know my personality.
 
i've listened to the podcasts where you hear him and steve's voices which... 1. are , not what you might expect ( since we all just use our imagination in these cases till we hear) and 2 when you hear both of them can tell he's they nice and also funny. the internet in general and social media in particular (where everything is text form) just are just generally bad bad for us i think.
Exactly this . Text betrays allot of our intentions.
I’ve been told I’m being aggressive when I type .
I’m definitely not .
 
Yeah that's why in a community it is super important getting to know people, like if u looked at me you would not think I was the way I am, you and I have spoken alot in private and I'm not anything how my appearance would make me look like, same with if u play the interviews I've been part of with the podcast on evo, it's one of the many reasons why I wanted to be on it, so people can hear me abd see what I'm about, so when I type something to you, you know my personality.
I liked your interview on the podcast, pretty deep into your contest planning @Noah Wixx

i've listened to the podcasts where you hear him and steve's voices which... 1. are , not what you might expect ( since we all just use our imagination in these cases till we hear) and 2 when you hear both of them can tell he's they nice and also funny. the internet in general and social media in particular (where everything is text form) just are just generally bad bad for us i think.
@SFDom415 I agree, in person what @Mobster said would come off way different. That's why text doesn't always relate clearly what people mean. So we have to be careful in the EVO family to do our best to get our points across clearly. :)
 
In this guys defence. At least he actually read my log and replied appropriately.

99% of the comments I've received so far have to be some kind or generated responses or they're fucking brain dead.
I try to read as much as possible but it can be a time limited issue. Often as not I'll focus on one post rather than every aspect. Others lack the skills, knowledge etc but also work for a living so have even less time. No one is on a wage to reply.
 
I liked your interview on the podcast, pretty deep into your contest planning @Noah Wixx


@SFDom415 I agree, in person what @Mobster said would come off way different. That's why text doesn't always relate clearly what people mean. So we have to be careful in the EVO family to do our best to get our points across clearly. :)
Time is also a part. If I have minutes the reply will be short, brief and to the point. Some forget that they are having a singular issue whereas those replying are doing so on many such logs. Some days we reply to 40+ posts before breakfast and then another 40+ through the day. Stevesmi and I do podcasts, he also works. Many helping here coach too. Plus our own training. Finally we ALL have a habit, mostly unintentional, of putting on OTHERS issues we might have or think they have.
 
Yeah that's why in a community it is super important getting to know people, like if u looked at me you would not think I was the way I am, you and I have spoken alot in private and I'm not anything how my appearance would make me look like, same with if u play the interviews I've been part of with the podcast on evo, it's one of the many reasons why I wanted to be on it, so people can hear me abd see what I'm about, so when I type something to you, you know my personality.
oh yeh i remember i did hear you and was like omg that's noah? but i liked you even more after heard your voice. yes we have talked privately and that made me just wish the best for you. of course i'm quite enamored with you cuz the biceps lol 🤪
 
oh yeh i remember i did hear you and was like omg that's noah? but i liked you even more after heard your voice. yes we have talked privately and that made me just wish the best for you. of course i'm quite enamored with you cuz the biceps lol 🤪
Atleast someone appreciates me 😁😂 that's why it's important to put ourselves out in the open so the members can really get a more indepth idea of who we are. Yeah most people expect a different voice than the one I have based on outside appearance lol. I appreciate the kind words, and you know I always wish the best for you as well im life.
 
Atleast someone appreciates me 😁😂 that's why it's important to put ourselves out in the open so the members can really get a more indepth idea of who we are. Yeah most people expect a different voice than the one I have based on outside appearance lol. I appreciate the kind words, and you know I always wish the best for you as well im life.
yep and on my log i put myself aaaaaaallllllllll the way out there. yeh i think your voice is kinda adorable actually 🏋️🏋️
 
Its great to see that there are people out there supporting @Mobster and I have no doubt he has a wealth of knowledge and experience to go with it.

Thats why these forums exist so people can learn and the greats can share.

Ive been called out for calling people cunts etc and get told this isnt the aussie section and you cant talk like that, no worries it offends some people and I have to stop doing it. I believe the same applies with mobster being a senior moderator here he should show people a little more respect.

I started this thread to make the issue public as Ive had a few people complain in private about his comments and feel they are getting discouraged and wanted to stop logging. Also if I have a problem with someone I have no issue letting them know publicly as its not something that can be hidden.

I understand that he may want people to do their best and sees potential that others dont. He has a wealth of knowledge he should share with people who are putting themselves out there and are vulnerable to being put down.
In other words stop being just a cunt (I can say this because its aussie section and we all know its not as bad as everyone thinks) and start being a good cunt.
As a mod you should get to know someone before taking the piss and if you dont know them then dont do it.
I know mobster doesnt like me and I have no issue with that but please prove me wrong and show the community how good and valuable you are and so you can say suck it sparky I am a good cunt and I am helping people, what do you do?
 
Its great to see that there are people out there supporting @Mobster and I have no doubt he has a wealth of knowledge and experience to go with it.

Thats why these forums exist so people can learn and the greats can share.

Ive been called out for calling people cunts etc and get told this isnt the aussie section and you cant talk like that, no worries it offends some people and I have to stop doing it. I believe the same applies with mobster being a senior moderator here he should show people a little more respect.

I started this thread to make the issue public as Ive had a few people complain in private about his comments and feel they are getting discouraged and wanted to stop logging. Also if I have a problem with someone I have no issue letting them know publicly as its not something that can be hidden.

I understand that he may want people to do their best and sees potential that others dont. He has a wealth of knowledge he should share with people who are putting themselves out there and are vulnerable to being put down.
In other words stop being just a cunt (I can say this because its aussie section and we all know its not as bad as everyone thinks) and start being a good cunt.
As a mod you should get to know someone before taking the piss and if you dont know them then dont do it.
I know mobster doesnt like me and I have no issue with that but please prove me wrong and show the community how good and valuable you are and so you can say suck it sparky I am a good cunt and I am helping people, what do you do?
Surly as this is the Aussie section. Good cunt should be replaced with sick cunt?
 
Ive been called out for calling people cunts etc and get told this isnt the aussie section and you cant talk like that, no worries it offends some people and I have to stop doing it. I believe the same applies with mobster being a senior moderator here he should show people a little more respect.
Look at the hypocrisy by these guys defending Mobster? They happy call everyone out but one of their own.

Instead, they sit here and type up paragraphs about how Mobster is such a great guy in real life, and trying to sugar coat the problem away under walls of texts... which will just enable Mobster to continue on what he doing.

Maybe it's a cultural thing? In Australia, we pull our mates up if they being fuck wits, because if we don't, it makes us look like fuck wits also by being friends with them. That's what you guys are doing, just enabling him to continue on his rampage of shit talking and making your selves look like idiots too in the process.

If you really want be his mate - pull him up and work out where the issue is. I'll do it for you this time. It's in his response. His talking about doing 40+ messages morning and night. Why is he doing quantity over quality of messages?

You friends that are defending him haven't even understood the issue before you jump in and start sucking his dick. The quality of his messages are rubbish. That's what all the messages have been trying to say, and Mobster has just answered why... he thinks typing 40+ shit messages in morning and night is contributing to community even if most of those are putting people down.

If you his fucken mate, tell him to do quality over quantity because it makes you all look like a bunch of fools atm with the way you all cuckholding each other's balls. If i was Mobster mate, i would tell him "love you bro, but grow the fuck up and stop spraying shit everytime you type, and uplift everyone instead with your knowledge. Cut back to 20 quality messages in morning. Like you said, you not paid to do 40+ shit messages, no quota, so why making us look like a bunch of useless tools. Over the long term, giving quality advice to fewer people a day will grow the community better."

Typed this from phone in gym so think there some repeats but cbf editing it. Had to get thoughts out after I just read walls of crap about his good character when the issue had nothing to do with how Mobster is in real life. Idiots. It's about how he is online, and try's putting on a tough guy persona. Must make him feel important and get his rocks off by typing 40+ negative messages under the alias "Mobster" (yeah right lol), then bats him self off after and pats him self on back that he did a good job today talking shit behind his keyboard.. look like a bunch of fools right now
 
Look at the hypocrisy by these guys defending Mobster? They happy call everyone out but one of their own.

Instead, they sit here and type up paragraphs about how Mobster is such a great guy in real life, and trying to sugar coat the problem away under walls of texts... which will just enable Mobster to continue on what he doing.

Maybe it's a cultural thing? In Australia, we pull our mates up if they being fuck wits, because if we don't, it makes us look like fuck wits also by being friends with them. That's what you guys are doing, just enabling him to continue on his rampage of shit talking and making your selves look like idiots too in the process.

If you really want be his mate - pull him up and work out where the issue is. I'll do it for you this time. It's in his response. His talking about doing 40+ messages morning and night. Why is he doing quantity over quality of messages?

You friends that are defending him haven't even understood the issue before you jump in and start sucking his dick. The quality of his messages are rubbish. That's what all the messages have been trying to say, and Mobster has just answered why... he thinks typing 40+ shit messages in morning and night is contributing to community even if most of those are putting people down.

If you his fucken mate, tell him to do quality over quantity because it makes you all look like a bunch of fools atm with the way you all cuckholding each other's balls. If i was Mobster mate, i would tell him "love you bro, but grow the fuck up and stop spraying shit everytime you type, and uplift everyone instead with your knowledge. Cut back to 20 quality messages in morning. Like you said, you not paid to do 40+ shit messages, no quota, so why making us look like a bunch of useless tools. Over the long term, giving quality advice to fewer people a day will grow the community better."

Typed this from phone in gym so think there some repeats but cbf editing it. Had to get thoughts out after I just read walls of crap about his good character when the issue had nothing to do with how Mobster is in real life. Idiots. It's about how he is online, and try's putting on a tough guy persona. Must make him feel important and get his rocks off by typing 40+ negative messages under the alias "Mobster" (yeah right lol), then bats him self off after and pats him self on back that he did a good job today talking shit behind his keyboard.. look like a bunch of fools right now
Hahaha... good laugh thank you bro
That's savage.
 
Look at the hypocrisy by these guys defending Mobster? They happy call everyone out but one of their own.

Instead, they sit here and type up paragraphs about how Mobster is such a great guy in real life, and trying to sugar coat the problem away under walls of texts... which will just enable Mobster to continue on what he doing.

Maybe it's a cultural thing? In Australia, we pull our mates up if they being fuck wits, because if we don't, it makes us look like fuck wits also by being friends with them. That's what you guys are doing, just enabling him to continue on his rampage of shit talking and making your selves look like idiots too in the process.

If you really want be his mate - pull him up and work out where the issue is. I'll do it for you this time. It's in his response. His talking about doing 40+ messages morning and night. Why is he doing quantity over quality of messages?

You friends that are defending him haven't even understood the issue before you jump in and start sucking his dick. The quality of his messages are rubbish. That's what all the messages have been trying to say, and Mobster has just answered why... he thinks typing 40+ shit messages in morning and night is contributing to community even if most of those are putting people down.

If you his fucken mate, tell him to do quality over quantity because it makes you all look like a bunch of fools atm with the way you all cuckholding each other's balls. If i was Mobster mate, i would tell him "love you bro, but grow the fuck up and stop spraying shit everytime you type, and uplift everyone instead with your knowledge. Cut back to 20 quality messages in morning. Like you said, you not paid to do 40+ shit messages, no quota, so why making us look like a bunch of useless tools. Over the long term, giving quality advice to fewer people a day will grow the community better."

Typed this from phone in gym so think there some repeats but cbf editing it. Had to get thoughts out after I just read walls of crap about his good character when the issue had nothing to do with how Mobster is in real life. Idiots. It's about how he is online, and try's putting on a tough guy persona. Must make him feel important and get his rocks off by typing 40+ negative messages under the alias "Mobster" (yeah right lol), then bats him self off after and pats him self on back that he did a good job today talking shit behind his keyboard.. look like a bunch of fools right now
On the 'Mobster'. As I explained a few time over the years it's not meant to be a 'gangster' type vibe. It came from being a reader of Muscle Mob magazine (a very small group of physical culturists). The name was created by a well known PC writer called David Gentle. Now deceased. If you read the magazine you was a 'muscle mobster'. Which got shortened to 'mobster'. Hence the name. I've used it for 30+ years online.

Every single one of the mods replies to the same number of threads as I do. Meaning my 40 or whatever is the same as theirs. So there kinda is a quota. It especially applies to logs.

Now you talk about lifting buddies up. I think, in your example, I am. In my most recent post on your log yesterday, I pointed out that you are (IMO mind) doing right to use healing peptides but wrong in using AAS. Multiple reasons:

1) You are, by your own admission (it's in that log) 'feeling your form' on squats etc
2) Actually training harder on upper body exercises which
3) Will all be impacting on the recovery of the injury - shoulder.

So it'd make sense to do less work until you're fully recovered around that joint and MORE work on the squats etc. You also said that you was time limited - I replied to that in the log too.

Now we can have a back and forth or move on. Up to you
 
Yo
On the 'Mobster'. As I explained a few time over the years it's not meant to be a 'gangster' type vibe. It came from being a reader of Muscle Mob magazine (a very small group of physical culturists). The name was created by a well known PC writer called David Gentle. Now deceased. If you read the magazine you was a 'muscle mobster'. Which got shortened to 'mobster'. Hence the name. I've used it for 30+ years online.

Every single one of the mods replies to the same number of threads as I do. Meaning my 40 or whatever is the same as theirs. So there kinda is a quota. It especially applies to logs.

Now you talk about lifting buddies up. I think, in your example, I am. In my most recent post on your log yesterday, I pointed out that you are (IMO mind) doing right to use healing peptides but wrong in using AAS. Multiple reasons:

1) You are, by your own admission (it's in that log) 'feeling your form' on squats etc
2) Actually training harder on upper body exercises which
3) Will all be impacting on the recovery of the injury - shoulder.

So it'd make sense to do less work until you're fully recovered around that joint and MORE work on the squats etc. You also said that you was time limited - I replied to that in the log too.

Now we can have a back and forth or move on. Up to youonly started all
You only started all this "helping" after you edited your original message and deleted a bunch of messages criticising you. Covering up instead of facing your issues and taking reaponsibility like a man. How much weight you push in the gym, doesn't make you a man Mobster. Taking responsibility is one thing that will and not deleting comments and trying to change history to make you look like you ain't a cunt and hated on by everyone.

Dw, I got a bunch attavhrd here for you of what people really think about you. These are messages you deleted cause they critisied you and you wanted cover it up. There was alot more that I didn't get.

No need go back and forth because I don't see any value in your advice anyways, cause you just talk shit. I already responded to that message, which you haven't seen, right? I said I've slipped my disc twice already so I'm working my way back up ffs. I'm doing what's right for me in not injure my self again; what's so hard for you to understand about that? You just keep making your self look like an idiot.

Nice deflect btw. Trying to make the thread that is meant to be about you, about someone else cause you aint man enough to handle the heat. If you can't handle the heat then stop going around giving smoke in every message.m you type.

Never saw you respond to Blakey advice about going to gym and working on your own squat?
 

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why are we beating a dead kangaroo at this point? i said earlier in the thread if anyone had anything that they weren't satisfied with to reach out to me, gearhead, pigsy or mobster.

the posts were removed not by mobster, but with agreement among all running the forum to remove the negative posts which have no bearing on the outcome or end goals out of a log so that everyone could move on and we could let it go. seems like the majority on here are ready to move on with things but there are maybe a few of you who aren't. so if you still are not happy with this then you are free to reach out to one of us via PM.
 
Yo

You only started all this "helping" after you edited your original message and deleted a bunch of messages criticising you. Covering up instead of facing your issues and taking reaponsibility like a man. How much weight you push in the gym, doesn't make you a man Mobster. Taking responsibility is one thing that will and not deleting comments and trying to change history to make you look like you ain't a cunt and hated on by everyone.

Dw, I got a bunch attavhrd here for you of what people really think about you. These are messages you deleted cause they critisied you and you wanted cover it up. There was alot more that I didn't get.

No need go back and forth because I don't see any value in your advice anyways, cause you just talk shit. I already responded to that message, which you haven't seen, right? I said I've slipped my disc twice already so I'm working my way back up ffs. I'm doing what's right for me in not injure my self again; what's so hard for you to understand about that? You just keep making your self look like an idiot.

Nice deflect btw. Trying to make the thread that is meant to be about you, about someone else cause you aint man enough to handle the heat. If you can't handle the heat then stop going around giving smoke in every message.m you type.

Never saw you respond to Blakey advice about going to gym and working on your own squat?
First time I've seen a few of the replies. Were they in my log or quoted from there and posted elsewhere (Oz forum? Not been on there in weeks)?

And, of course, you can take my advice or ignore it. Same as me and Blakey above. In the quoted/screenshot posts the guys know more about you than I do. I was quite clear on what I'd seen (the shoulder injury being mentioned) vs what was not. And when I saw your later reply it referred to you being time limited not having more injuries (although you did say 'injuries' to begin with but only later mentioned the shoulder).

I've not deleted any such messages. That'll be down to admin. Indeed while I MIGHT have edited my reply (can't say as I remember but maybe even I thought it was a bit rude) I'd actually get a bollocking if I remove posts (been bollocked 2x - so don't do that anymore). The last time was when someone in the Oz forum was offering to rape and kill someone else in the Oz forum (supportive or what)? I think that's when and why Pigsy was asked to mod there (as suggested by other members of the Oz forum.

Edited to say after posting the above I see Stevesmi also says posts were removed by the bosses
 
Its great to see that there are people out there supporting @Mobster and I have no doubt he has a wealth of knowledge and experience to go with it.

Thats why these forums exist so people can learn and the greats can share.

Ive been called out for calling people cunts etc and get told this isnt the aussie section and you cant talk like that, no worries it offends some people and I have to stop doing it. I believe the same applies with mobster being a senior moderator here he should show people a little more respect.

I started this thread to make the issue public as Ive had a few people complain in private about his comments and feel they are getting discouraged and wanted to stop logging. Also if I have a problem with someone I have no issue letting them know publicly as its not something that can be hidden.

I understand that he may want people to do their best and sees potential that others dont. He has a wealth of knowledge he should share with people who are putting themselves out there and are vulnerable to being put down.
In other words stop being just a cunt (I can say this because its aussie section and we all know its not as bad as everyone thinks) and start being a good cunt.
As a mod you should get to know someone before taking the piss and if you dont know them then dont do it.
I know mobster doesnt like me and I have no issue with that but please prove me wrong and show the community how good and valuable you are and so you can say suck it sparky I am a good cunt and I am helping people, what do you do?
are australians really some kind of different breed? just curious. generally we americans are fascinated by brit's and aussies. there's an aussie section here? where?
according to the media we see,
aussie men are hot and sexy. 🤗 so i want to hang out in this aussie section you mentioned.

i think you use the word cunt the way americans use the word bitch. ( apolgies if there's any women reading this)
we ( americans) think
both brit's and aussies are very straightforward ,
one in a most eloquent way the other much less so. thus, the head butting.

this has nothing to do with anything. i'm just looking for sexy aussies. 🤷
 
are australians really some kind of different breed? just curious. generally we americans are fascinated by brit's and aussies. there's an aussie section here? where?
according to the media we see,
aussie men are hot and sexy. 🤗 so i want to hang out in this aussie section you mentioned.

i think you use the word cunt the way americans use the word bitch. ( apolgies if there's any women reading this)
we ( americans) think
both brit's and aussies are very straightforward ,
one in a most eloquent way the other much less so. thus, the head butting.

this has nothing to do with anything. i'm just looking for sexy aussies. 🤷
i can tell you that aussie women are gorgerous. i dated one that was half aussie, she had the most gorgerous green eyes and brown hair. this was in my mid 20's before i was smart enough to truly appreciate her.
 
i can tell you that aussie women are gorgerous. i dated one that was half aussie, she had the most gorgerous green eyes and brown hair. this was in my mid 20's before i was smart enough to truly appreciate her.
too bad it's a 900 hour hour flight to get down there. otherwise it'd be a good vacation
 
bros how far Austria from Texas by truck? want to make sures i got enough gas to make it without problems. when i get belt fixed gonna head down there and pick up SFdom on way. they got good hooch or should i pack my own?
 
yep and on my log i put myself aaaaaaallllllllll the way out there. yeh i think your voice is kinda adorable actually 🏋️🏋️
I don't know of that I'd a good thing or not 😁😂
 
Look at the hypocrisy by these guys defending Mobster? They happy call everyone out but one of their own.

Instead, they sit here and type up paragraphs about how Mobster is such a great guy in real life, and trying to sugar coat the problem away under walls of texts... which will just enable Mobster to continue on what he doing.

Maybe it's a cultural thing? In Australia, we pull our mates up if they being fuck wits, because if we don't, it makes us look like fuck wits also by being friends with them. That's what you guys are doing, just enabling him to continue on his rampage of shit talking and making your selves look like idiots too in the process.

If you really want be his mate - pull him up and work out where the issue is. I'll do it for you this time. It's in his response. His talking about doing 40+ messages morning and night. Why is he doing quantity over quality of messages?

You friends that are defending him haven't even understood the issue before you jump in and start sucking his dick. The quality of his messages are rubbish. That's what all the messages have been trying to say, and Mobster has just answered why... he thinks typing 40+ shit messages in morning and night is contributing to community even if most of those are putting people down.

If you his fucken mate, tell him to do quality over quantity because it makes you all look like a bunch of fools atm with the way you all cuckholding each other's balls. If i was Mobster mate, i would tell him "love you bro, but grow the fuck up and stop spraying shit everytime you type, and uplift everyone instead with your knowledge. Cut back to 20 quality messages in morning. Like you said, you not paid to do 40+ shit messages, no quota, so why making us look like a bunch of useless tools. Over the long term, giving quality advice to fewer people a day will grow the community better."

Typed this from phone in gym so think there some repeats but cbf editing it. Had to get thoughts out after I just read walls of crap about his good character when the issue had nothing to do with how Mobster is in real life. Idiots. It's about how he is online, and try's putting on a tough guy persona. Must make him feel important and get his rocks off by typing 40+ negative messages under the alias "Mobster" (yeah right lol), then bats him self off after and pats him self on back that he did a good job today talking shit behind his keyboard.. look like a bunch of fools right now
Name one person I've called out or talked down on ? Brother I spend alot of time in the aussie section and comment on everyone's logs, I've always been supportive of everyone.

I am 100% supportive of the entire aussie community and that is a fact, ask pigsy or anyone here who has interacted with me.

We are all on this jounery together just at different points thats the beauty of it all seeing helping and watching someone become the best version of themselves.

The only people I call out are the one's who come up with ridiculous cycles that are harmful because I don't want to see something bad happened to someone.

I call out troll posts and I will call out people making mistakes and try to help them understand better and change there course of action to help them not hurt themselves.

I do this in American section of evo as well I try and be well rounded and help everyone best I can.

Im no schill ask anyone who spent time talking with me i will go out of my way for anyone to help and make this feel like a family and great community.

I can see all your points and they are very valid, i hope you also see my points and understand i know mobster a bit better than most in the aussie section do so i can speak truthfully on what i know and have experienced with talking one on one and working with mobster.

I've helped aussie vendors in private and anyone who sends me a message, I even tell people I'm just a guest over here and speak with pigsy as he is the one who helps all the aussie brothers, I know how to stay I'm my lane.

Also I did state in my post mobster used to be hard on me, I just don't get offended by things like that, he has been short or called me on things, regardless I never took it negative even if it sounded that way, majority of my life I had coaches in sports or the weight room that were just like mobster so I guess I'm used to that old school kind of talk and motivation so I take it as a way to better myself nothing more nothing less.

I understand we all are different and react differently with certain situations, I feel if you had a conversation with mobster in private maybe you would feel differently .

In life we learn we grow and hopefully learn to all come together to help better one another for the long term benefit of everyone.
 
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It’s obvious that the majority of the guys maybe expected a small amount of accountability or even a well worded apology of “sorry if I’ve come across this way but it was never the intention” but that didn’t happen.

And that’s fine.

Mobster can be blunt. He’s made it clear sometimes it’s a time situation.

I think we move forward and if people feel that there isn’t change. They can approach yourself or other staff members privately.

@LevButlerov hit the nail on the head with the way he addressed the situation.

@Noah Wixx Your efforts at mediating the situation are appreciated also brother but it’s become a back and forth now and that’s going to get us nowhere.

Let’s get it back to the love and lifting 💪🏽
 
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I don't know of that I'd a good thing or not 😁😂
well i have to have fun. cycles reps and chicken consumption is boring 😝


i'm fat and bloated from the frozen foods but at least my arms look ok today
 

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It’s obvious that the majority of the guys maybe expected a small amount of accountability or even a well worded apology of “sorry if I’ve come across this way but it was never the intention” but that didn’t happen.

And that’s fine.

Mobster can be blunt. He’s made it clear sometimes it’s a time situation.

I think we move forward and if people feel that there isn’t change. They can approach yourself or other staff members privately.

@LevButlerov hit the nail on the head with the way he addressed the situation.

@Noah Wixx Your efforts at mediating the situation are appreciated also brother but it’s become a back and forth now and that’s going to get us nowhere.

Let’s get it back to the love and lifting 💪🏽
I agree brother I said my peace and will leave it at that and get back to doing my mod work and supporting everyone 😎
 
are australians really some kind of different breed? just curious. generally we americans are fascinated by brit's and aussies. there's an aussie section here? where?
according to the media we see,
aussie men are hot and sexy. 🤗 so i want to hang out in this aussie section you mentioned.

i think you use the word cunt the way americans use the word bitch. ( apolgies if there's any women reading this)
we ( americans) think
both brit's and aussies are very straightforward ,
one in a most eloquent way the other much less so. thus, the head butting.

this has nothing to do with anything. i'm just looking for sexy aussies. 🤷
Aussie culture is very laid back .
Generally if you give someone grief , your likey to get it back . Jokes can be very crude , a lot of sarcasm .
Most important, the ability to take a knock to the chin .
That last part is dying out .
Hence this whole winge fest .
Oh poor baby a moderator said some rude words.
Harden up boys.
For a bunch of “ men “ who take male hormones to get more masculine,
We sure do act like little 13 year old girls sometimes .
Me included .
 
I have a different point of view than more of my friends in the EVO family. I think many things we are experiencing here are cultural issues, Americans UK guys vs Australians, this seems to be the root cause of misunderstandings in our family.

While we can say, "I'm sorry for what happened and we'll try to avoid it again," it wouldn't resolve the core issue. It's a paradox of culture IMO. There is no bad things here, there are cultural misunderstandings.
 
Aussie culture is very laid back .
Generally if you give someone grief , your likey to get it back . Jokes can be very crude , a lot of sarcasm .
Most important, the ability to take a knock to the chin .
That last part is dying out .
Hence this whole winge fest .
Oh poor baby a moderator said some rude words.
Harden up boys.
For a bunch of “ men “ who take male hormones to get more masculine,
We sure do act like little 13 year old girls sometimes .
Me included .
I think you miss the point bro.

Calling people cry babies when the fact is. People have expressed an opinion on a matter that goes against the core value of the forum and that’s it plain and simple.

Yeh mate cool you got thick skin. Mine is thick majority of the time too. But does that mean that it gives right for people to be put down or under minded by what they may feel as an achievement.

The evo team always preaches to log. But when you read through the logs you see a pattern. It may not be an issue to you or myself. But to others it can be very deterring.

This is a community built on building one another up. Mental strength aswel as physical strength and well being.

Mods can we possibly just lock this thread up now coz it’s become stupid.

You have a majority of people who feel a type of way.

Followed by some mods/staff saying “no you’re wrong, mobster is great”

The focus was the comments and wording. Not mobster as a person.

No disrespect to anyone. Especially you @Mobster as id like to keep my positive comment streaks going. If you take a look at yesterday I didn’t do squats with the smith machine 💪🏽

Peace everyone !!!
 
Yo

You only started all this "helping" after you edited your original message and deleted a bunch of messages criticising you. Covering up instead of facing your issues and taking reaponsibility like a man. How much weight you push in the gym, doesn't make you a man Mobster. Taking responsibility is one thing that will and not deleting comments and trying to change history to make you look like you ain't a cunt and hated on by everyone.

Dw, I got a bunch attavhrd here for you of what people really think about you. These are messages you deleted cause they critisied you and you wanted cover it up. There was alot more that I didn't get.

No need go back and forth because I don't see any value in your advice anyways, cause you just talk shit. I already responded to that message, which you haven't seen, right? I said I've slipped my disc twice already so I'm working my way back up ffs. I'm doing what's right for me in not injure my self again; what's so hard for you to understand about that? You just keep making your self look like an idiot.

Nice deflect btw. Trying to make the thread that is meant to be about you, about someone else cause you aint man enough to handle the heat. If you can't handle the heat then stop going around giving smoke in every message.m you type.

Never saw you respond to Blakey advice about going to gym and working on your own squat?
There is a situation here that was caused by me. Specifically, the editing of the quote by @Mobster.

@Mobster did not edit his posts, so you understand that @SuperMedium , I was told by my senior admin to handle the situation. When I saw the issue was the "comment" in question, I edited the post in question to try to calm the situation. @Mobster was not aware of this, this was me.
Further, I notified only 2 admins about the edits and didn't follow up with @Mobster about it, so my apologies to all involved for the situation.
 
Aussie culture is very laid back .
Generally if you give someone grief , your likey to get it back . Jokes can be very crude , a lot of sarcasm .
Most important, the ability to take a knock to the chin .
That last part is dying out .
Hence this whole winge fest .
Oh poor baby a moderator said some rude words.
Harden up boys.
For a bunch of “ men “ who take male hormones to get more masculine,
We sure do act like little 13 year old girls sometimes .
Me included .
joking and razzing etc is in the delivery . my great grandma use to say " you can call me anything you want as long as you smile when you say it"
( and of course no breed is more viscous to its own than gay men i literally have ptsd from it)

same with comedy it's the intent behind it. well have to be able to laugh at ourselves . it relives atess to know you can and it's ok and it won't kill you.

as far as muscle boys being girls sometimes.... that's just super hot. 🔥 i'm here for it. 👍 just let me grab my crop
 
I think you miss the point bro.

Calling people cry babies when the fact is. People have expressed an opinion on a matter that goes against the core value of the forum and that’s it plain and simple.

Yeh mate cool you got thick skin. Mine is thick majority of the time too. But does that mean that it gives right for people to be put down or under minded by what they may feel as an achievement.

The evo team always preaches to log. But when you read through the logs you see a pattern. It may not be an issue to you or myself. But to others it can be very deterring.

This is a community built on building one another up. Mental strength aswel as physical strength and well being.

Mods can we possibly just lock this thread up now coz it’s become stupid.

You have a majority of people who feel a type of way.

Followed by some mods/staff saying “no you’re wrong, mobster is great”

The focus was the comments and wording. Not mobster as a person.

No disrespect to anyone. Especially you @Mobster as id like to keep my positive comment streaks going. If you take a look at yesterday I didn’t do squats with the smith machine 💪🏽

Peace everyone !!!
Awesome lol. All joking aside I had a post prepped re bulgarian split squats and goblet squats. Like Smith machine squats they have their place. People can, of course, train how they want. But, as with the first two exercises it can be technically hard to do and feel like they are working but to really force growth not just in the legs but throughout the body NOTHING beats more than bodyweight for reps in a barbell squat. Avoiding these, as it can appear some do, without injuries etc to hold them back, is to hold yourself back from getting all you could.

That said Yates ended up only being able to smith machine squat (big weights though) and had decent legs
 
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Aussie culture is very laid back .
Generally if you give someone grief , your likey to get it back . Jokes can be very crude , a lot of sarcasm .
Most important, the ability to take a knock to the chin .
That last part is dying out .
Hence this whole winge fest .
Oh poor baby a moderator said some rude words.
Harden up boys.
For a bunch of “ men “ who take male hormones to get more masculine,
We sure do act like little 13 year old girls sometimes .
Me included .
Look bro, Ive never said anything bad about you except when I didnt know you where dirt aswell Through all the shit thats gone down between certain people and yourself. But you need to shut the fuck up here on this. Ive seen shit youve done, I dont care why or what happened but dont pretend like youre better than anyone else. Senior mods need to be responsible for speaking to people who are logging in the correct manner. Thats it.
No further comments will be made by me about this comment as you know what Im talking about, there is nothing to clarify, nothing to be added or elaborated on, nothing else needs to be said.
I hope you and the family are doing well.
 
Look bro, Ive never said anything bad about you except when I didnt know you where dirt aswell Through all the shit thats gone down between certain people and yourself. But you need to shut the fuck up here on this. Ive seen shit youve done, I dont care why or what happened but dont pretend like youre better than anyone else. Senior mods need to be responsible for speaking to people who are logging in the correct manner. Thats it.
No further comments will be made by me about this comment as you know what Im talking about, there is nothing to clarify, nothing to be added or elaborated on, nothing else needs to be said.
I hope you and the family are doing well.
Pm coming your way mate. .
 
Aussie culture is very laid back .
Generally if you give someone grief , your likey to get it back . Jokes can be very crude , a lot of sarcasm .
Most important, the ability to take a knock to the chin .
That last part is dying out .
Hence this whole winge fest .
Oh poor baby a moderator said some rude words.
Harden up boys.
For a bunch of “ men “ who take male hormones to get more masculine,
We sure do act like little 13 year old girls sometimes .
Me included .
 
joking and razzing etc is in the delivery . my great grandma use to say " you can call me anything you want as long as you smile when you say it"
( and of course no breed is more viscous to its own than gay men i literally have ptsd from it)

same with comedy it's the intent behind it. well have to be able to laugh at ourselves . it relives atess to know you can and it's ok and it won't kill you.

as far as muscle boys being girls sometimes.... that's just super hot. 🔥 i'm here for it. 👍 just let me grab my crop
You have to laugh or you will cry .
Notice I added a bit at the bottom of my post “ me included “….. we should all be self aware that none of us are innocent of the behaviour I speak of .
expect me . I’m perfect .
I can’t do a thing wrong , it’s physically impossible.
 
You have to laugh or you will cry .
Notice I added a bit at the bottom of my post “ me included “….. we should all be self aware that none of us are innocent of the behaviour I speak of .
expect me . I’m perfect .
I can’t do a thing wrong , it’s physically impossible.
well. i'd have to review your profile pic and judge how much of a pass's you get
 
You have to laugh or you will cry .
Notice I added a bit at the bottom of my post “ me included “….. we should all be self aware that none of us are innocent of the behaviour I speak of .
expect me . I’m perfect .
I can’t do a thing wrong , it’s physically impossible.
Why do you always turn up taking the minorities side, disregard what the issue is, and try and direct all the attention to you / make everything about you? It is very sad. You need to give your keyboard (Australia's most abused) a rest and go outside, make some friends in the real world.

@Dirt let me try make a simple concept, even more simple for you to understand

Scenario1
Say there is a restaurant called Evo. And 1 of the staff likes to abuse everyone. Would you eat there? Would he keep his job? @TeeGee already very succinctly explained it... There should be a Vision, Mission and Values that the Evo staff of this restaurant adhere too.

Tell me why anyone should waste their time at this restaurant when there is a big line of restaurants? Your ignorant response is as if we are tied to this place, and we just need "cop it on the chin" to be there. Get fucked lol. Most of us have a life outside the internet, which I know you don't. We have family that love us that we can spend time with, other forums to go to, social events to attend, etc etc. You cop it on the chin when you don't have any other options or you need this thing (like that shit job/its your rugby team or your sports team like the other ignorant people chiming in that still haven't grasped the concept that majority are saying here cause they are also tied to this place to have a personality and to feel good about them selves, because without it they are nothing). No one that is part of the majority here fucken needs to be here and be abused by some rat they don't know, except you and those others that have chimed in defense, cause you got no life outside this world, so you would rather be abused then be a fucken man and stand up for your self when you reach milestones. Get fucked, no one puts me down like a bitch like you making your self look like. You are openly telling everyone you got no balls to stand up for your self as a man, and no life outside of this Evo, so you are ok to be abused like a bitch hahahaha

Now, what has happened, is the majority of people, as @TeeGee said, complained against Mobster about how he acts while he is working at this resturant. And the staff has come in and go "oh no, his great ouside work.. When he talks to his mum, he is sweet. He feeds the homeless dogs. He goes to Church every Sunday."... Thats not what the majority is saying @mods. @MassiveSparky said it already to make it simple for your guys to grasp... It is how he acts as the senior staff of this restaurant. No idea why this simple concept needs to be repeated multiple times till you guys understand?

Funniest part of all of this - you guys still expect people to do logs and be abused at the same time lol hahahaha what a warped reality you guys live in

Scenario 2
There is a guy called, I make a fake name, Popeye that comes into a chat. Everyone hates him cause he talks so much shit and can't back it up. You do what you always do, and choose the minority side and it blows up in your face, because you realised the majority were trying to warn you how this person is and you just love to be on the side of drama...

Oh wait, this scenario really did happen. And you doing it again.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

Guess you havn't learnt yet, mate.

@mods - please lock this thread down, it is going to turn into a shit show now Dirt is here.
 
I have a different point of view than more of my friends in the EVO family. I think many things we are experiencing here are cultural issues, Americans UK guys vs Australians, this seems to be the root cause of misunderstandings in our family.

While we can say, "I'm sorry for what happened and we'll try to avoid it again," it wouldn't resolve the core issue. It's a paradox of culture IMO. There is no bad things here, there are cultural misunderstandings.
this☝️

👍

i thought my log was a lot but this thread seems extra. might just be hormones.
but is it too much test or too much est 🤷 can't tell.
 
Come on everyone let’s try remember the sole focus of this thread. It’s about word choice and the core value of evo being to lift one another up and build confidence and character within our community.

If you guys start turning on each other due to differing opinions it makes the entire thing pointless and we just look silly.

Respect one another. Treat others as you wish to be treated is what my parents would always tell me.

Have a great day everyone 💪🏽
 
Come on everyone let’s try remember the sole focus of this thread. It’s about word choice and the core value of evo being to lift one another up and build confidence and character within our community.

If you guys start turning on each other due to differing opinions it makes the entire thing pointless and we just look silly.

Respect one another. Treat others as you wish to be treated is what my parents would always tell me.

Have a great day everyone 💪🏽
You are right. I apologise to everyone for my serious lack of thinking through while I wrote that message and the poor choice of words I chose - such as the calling people directly and indirectly bitch and a rat, etc..

I still stand by the essence of the message though.

This be my last message in this thread, and I will be unfollowing it. It has run its course and adds no more value. Its just going to go in circles now or off topic (like it was already before I responded).

Peace and grow
 
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Why do you always turn up taking the minorities side, disregard what the issue is, and try and direct all the attention to you / make everything about you? It is very sad. You need to give your keyboard (Australia's most abused) a rest and go outside, make some friends in the real world.

@Dirt let me try make a simple concept, even more simple for you to understand

Scenario1
Say there is a restaurant called Evo. And 1 of the staff likes to abuse everyone. Would you eat there? Would he keep his job? @TeeGee already very succinctly explained it... There should be a Vision, Mission and Values that the Evo staff of this restaurant adhere too.

Tell me why anyone should waste their time at this restaurant when there is a big line of restaurants? Your ignorant response is as if we are tied to this place, and we just need "cop it on the chin" to be there. Get fucked lol. Most of us have a life outside the internet, which I know you don't. We have family that love us that we can spend time with, other forums to go to, social events to attend, etc etc. You cop it on the chin when you don't have any other options or you need this thing (like that shit job/its your rugby team or your sports team like the other ignorant people chiming in that still haven't grasped the concept that majority are saying here cause they are also tied to this place to have a personality and to feel good about them selves, because without it they are nothing). No one that is part of the majority here fucken needs to be here and be abused by some rat they don't know, except you and those others that have chimed in defense, cause you got no life outside this world, so you would rather be abused then be a fucken man and stand up for your self when you reach milestones. Get fucked, no one puts me down like a bitch like you making your self look like. You are openly telling everyone you got no balls to stand up for your self as a man, and no life outside of this Evo, so you are ok to be abused like a bitch hahahaha

Now, what has happened, is the majority of people, as @TeeGee said, complained against Mobster about how he acts while he is working at this resturant. And the staff has come in and go "oh no, his great ouside work.. When he talks to his mum, he is sweet. He feeds the homeless dogs. He goes to Church every Sunday."... Thats not what the majority is saying @mods. @MassiveSparky said it already to make it simple for your guys to grasp... It is how he acts as the senior staff of this restaurant. No idea why this simple concept needs to be repeated multiple times till you guys understand?

Funniest part of all of this - you guys still expect people to do logs and be abused at the same time lol hahahaha what a warped reality you guys live in

Scenario 2
There is a guy called, I make a fake name, Popeye that comes into a chat. Everyone hates him cause he talks so much shit and can't back it up. You do what you always do, and choose the minority side and it blows up in your face, because you realised the majority were trying to warn you how this person is and you just love to be on the side of drama...

Oh wait, this scenario really did happen. And you doing it again.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

Guess you havn't learnt yet, mate.

@mods - please lock this thread down, it is going to turn into a shit show now Dirt is here.
I don’t understand what’s wrong with me having my own opinion .
Not once have a personally attacked anyone here , yet I’ve been attacked personally for my opinion about 5 times in this thread now .
Why ?
Because my opinion differs ?
I’m sorry but I understand you have the right to your opinion , But you need to understand not everyone will share your opinion . And you know what ? That’s ok brother . It’s what makes the world a colourful place.
You need to learn to accept difference of opinion , and understand that it doesn’t mean hostility.

As for drama ….. there never was any from my side .

Just relax man.
Don’t take things so personal and let others say what they want .
 
Come on everyone let’s try remember the sole focus of this thread. It’s about word choice and the core value of evo being to lift one another up and build confidence and character within our community.

If you guys start turning on each other due to differing opinions it makes the entire thing pointless and we just look silly.

Respect one another. Treat others as you wish to be treated is what my parents would always tell me.

Have a great day everyone 💪🏽
I love your ideals .
This is exactly what I’m trying to say .
 
Some good points made in this thread Aussie brothers. :) The EVO family should always discuss our problems instead of building resentment. Happy to see we are coming to terms here.

I value and respect all views of the EVO family on any topic, no matter what it is. We should always give all sides of a situation the ability to discuss everything in the open and respectfully make their points. While we can disagree on issues, we should always stay respectful and build more love in our family. ❤️
 
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