Primo dose? Test, Deca, HGH

[Jackorjacked]

Hello,

Need help with primobolan dose.

Started trt with clinic 3 weeks ago. 250mg Test Enanthate & 300mg deca. Also prescribed Anavar I plan to take later maybe week 12 for 8 weeks.

I also have HGH which I'm using 4iu as pre workout, 3 days. Or 2ius some mornings when I fast.

I'm 33, 98kg/ 216lbs, 15% bf. Training on and off 20 years, last 18 months consitent 3 days a week. Last cycle was nearly 5 years ago. No intention to compete, purely lifestyle and mental health.

I supplement with n2guard, sometimes multivitamin & cellary

I've been given a few primobolan vials. I was hoping for advice on dose. I know some say keep the test higher than deca. Currently it's very similar and I'm not having any issues although it's early days. What about primo? I've never used it.

I had to start taking aromasin because my face blew up and nipples were itchy week 2. I've always been super sensitive to oestrogen. I took a natural diuretic and nolva and dropped 4kgs over night (3 long pisses). Now I'm using aromasin twice weekly (with test) and all seems OK.

Anyway, I'm hoping for advice with the above in mind. Can it help remove the need for aromasin? What dose would you suggest?

 

[s.gentz]

Hello,

Need help with primobolan dose.

Started trt with clinic 3 weeks ago. 250mg Test Enanthate & 300mg deca. Also prescribed Anavar I plan to take later maybe week 12 for 8 weeks.

I also have HGH which I'm using 4iu as pre workout, 3 days. Or 2ius some mornings when I fast.

I'm 33, 98kg/ 216lbs, 15% bf. Training on and off 20 years, last 18 months consitent 3 days a week. Last cycle was nearly 5 years ago. No intention to compete, purely lifestyle and mental health.

I supplement with n2guard, sometimes multivitamin & cellary

I've been given a few primobolan vials. I was hoping for advice on dose. I know some say keep the test higher than deca. Currently it's very similar and I'm not having any issues although it's early days. What about primo? I've never used it.


Anyway, I'm hoping for advice with the above in mind. Can it help remove the need for aromasin? What dose would you suggest?

I hope you realize this is NOT trt and is not a long term solution.

No intention to compete, purely lifestyle and mental health.

Your not gonna get this with Deca.

My advice would be to get you hormones under control before messing with anything else.
3 weeks is not enough time for anything to stabalize and if your already having issues you need to get that sorted.

I had to start taking aromasin because my face blew up and nipples were itchy week 2. I've always been super sensitive to oestrogen. I took a natural diuretic and nolva and dropped 4kgs over night (3 long pisses)

This is not good. This tells me your BP is high.

 

[Jackorjacked]

I hope you realize this is NOT trt and is not a long term solution.


Your not gonna get this with Deca.

My advice would be to get you hormones under control before messing with anything else.
3 weeks is not enough time for anything to stabalize and if your already having issues you need to get that sorted.


This is not good. This tells me your BP is high.

Thanks for your reply.

I'm aware the deca dose is not trt. I'm merely pointing out it comes from the clinic so it's prescription. It's more of a sports clinic. And no I don't want to compete so yes it's lifestyle not sure what your point is there.

The extreme water was also because I loaded all week with creatine. Don't be so quick to diagnose high BP doc. My sodium intake was also high that week.

I think you missed the question in the thread.

 

[s.gentz]

Thanks for your reply.

I'm aware the deca dose is not trt. I'm merely pointing out it comes from the clinic so it's prescription. It's more of a sports clinic. And no I don't want to compete so yes it's lifestyle not sure what your point is there.

The extreme water was also because I loaded all week with creatine. Don't be so quick to diagnose high BP doc. My sodium intake was also high that week.

I think you missed the question in the thread.

I didn't mean to come off as "guns blazin" it's just hard to give advice when their are other issues at play and things seem to be out of wack per you own admissions.

Anyway, I'm hoping for advice with the above in mind. Can it help remove the need for aromasin? What dose would you suggest?

So this is your questions:
Remove the need for aromison-No, you can't substitute primo for an AI. If you were on low test only and not a high converter you might be able to get away with it bit what you are taking I would say no. Keep the AI at same dose you are running. 20mg x 2per week? Get some bloods after a few weeks to see how your doing and adjust.
Dose-In this scenario i personally would not use Primo. If i'm using primo that is my main compound and I want it's benefits to shine. Not to say I have never used primo and deca but after years of experimenting that is my conclusion. But you have every right to experiment just as I and most others on this forum have. Ny suggestions would be to run the primo at 600mg/wk or more. In my experience, anything under that is underwhelming especially if using with a 19nor.

 

[Jackorjacked]

I didn't mean to come off as "guns blazin" it's just hard to give advice when their are other issues at play and things seem to be out of wack per you own admissions.

So this is your questions:
Remove the need for aromison-No, you can't substitute primo for an AI. If you were on low test only and not a high converter you might be able to get away with it bit what you are taking I would say no. Keep the AI at same dose you are running. 20mg x 2per week? Get some bloods after a few weeks to see how your doing and adjust.
Dose-In this scenario i personally would not use Primo. If i'm using primo that is my main compound and I want it's benefits to shine. Not to say I have never used primo and deca but after years of experimenting that is my conclusion. But you have every right to experiment just as I and most others on this forum have. Ny suggestions would be to run the primo at 600mg/wk or more. In my experience, anything under that is underwhelming especially if using with a 19nor.

Thank you for your reply.

I'll get bloods done in a few weeks and get levels sorted before thinking about adding anything else.

 

[s.gentz]

I'll get bloods done in a few weeks and get levels sorted before thinking about adding anything else.

That's a great move!! We are here to support you. WE don't wanna see anyone get hurt.
I'll be following your progress!!
Get a log started!

 

[dylangemelli]

250 mg per week of test is certainly not trt unless you have a ver severe hypogonadal condition... so keep that in mind

4 ius of hgh is also quite high... 2-3 ius max is more than enough...

as far as primo goes, 400-600 mg per week is where i would be at...

 

[stevesmi]

we are happy to help you

however sgentz is quite correct. one of the things i always tell guys that anti aging clinics don't have your long term interests at heart. they are run by businessmen who only care about $$$. they have a clinic and overhead so of course they will put you on as much shit as possible because 1. they want to bring in more clients 2. they want your cash and 3. they want to keep you coming back for more.

if you want to run test and deca at those dosages GO FOR IT! but keep it 12 weeks only and come off for a period of time to give your body a break. if you stay on those doses long term it will strain your body and organs and shorten your life Significantly.
the proper trt dose is 125mgs a week that is it

if you keep this going like this then your problems will multiply and there will be hidden dangers. if you are already seeing problems that are noticeable i guarantee other problems are coming on that you aren't noticing like prostate, cell and organ damage

If ur cool taking that on then that’s ur business. Just wanted to make you aware

 

[Noah Wixx]

Primobolan is offen faked as well, it is commonly one of the most faked steroids in existence currently, so you don't know if you have real primo, that is a huge gamble trying to run that as a substitute for actual AI, keep that in mind.

 

[Jackorjacked]

Thanks everyone.

I probably should have been more clear with my intentions. It was midnight here (Australia) when I wrote the initial. I was just looking for info on primo.

I plan to run these doses for 16 to 20 weeks depending how I feel.

The trt clinic actually prescribed 125mg per week test and 100mg deca. They did add on anavar 40mg which I'm just going to use last 6 to 8 weeks. They also prescribed the hgh at 2ius, 5 days (10 a week). I'm just using 12ius a week, 4ius before training.

So I guess this is considered a blast/ cycle before I actually do trt.

600mg primo sounds really high. Is that high? Does it need to be that high? I used to run things in the 500 to 700 range but always had bad sides and decided it wasn't worth it.

Edit- just saw Dylan wrote 400 to 600. Maybe I could start 400. I'm going to wait a few weeks until I get initial bloods

 

[stevesmi]

if you are a normal joe then 400-500mgs is plenty IF its legit

check out the aussie guys they will get you a proper source. although that sub forum has had some drama lately its a good source of info if you avoid the negativity

one of the guys actually posted some testing on the products yesterday which was a great post

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hello,

Need help with primobolan dose.

Started trt with clinic 3 weeks ago. 250mg Test Enanthate & 300mg deca. Also prescribed Anavar I plan to take later maybe week 12 for 8 weeks.

I also have HGH which I'm using 4iu as pre workout, 3 days. Or 2ius some mornings when I fast.

I'm 33, 98kg/ 216lbs, 15% bf. Training on and off 20 years, last 18 months consitent 3 days a week. Last cycle was nearly 5 years ago. No intention to compete, purely lifestyle and mental health.

I supplement with n2guard, sometimes multivitamin & cellary

I've been given a few primobolan vials. I was hoping for advice on dose. I know some say keep the test higher than deca. Currently it's very similar and I'm not having any issues although it's early days. What about primo? I've never used it.

I had to start taking aromasin because my face blew up and nipples were itchy week 2. I've always been super sensitive to oestrogen. I took a natural diuretic and nolva and dropped 4kgs over night (3 long pisses). Now I'm using aromasin twice weekly (with test) and all seems OK.

Anyway, I'm hoping for advice with the above in mind. Can it help remove the need for aromasin? What dose would you suggest?

Thanks everyone.

I probably should have been more clear with my intentions. It was midnight here (Australia) when I wrote the initial. I was just looking for info on primo.

I plan to run these doses for 16 to 20 weeks depending how I feel.

The trt clinic actually prescribed 125mg per week test and 100mg deca. They did add on anavar 40mg which I'm just going to use last 6 to 8 weeks. They also prescribed the hgh at 2ius, 5 days (10 a week). I'm just using 12ius a week, 4ius before training.

So I guess this is considered a blast/ cycle before I actually do trt.

600mg primo sounds really high. Is that high? Does it need to be that high? I used to run things in the 500 to 700 range but always had bad sides and decided it wasn't worth it.

Edit- just saw Dylan wrote 400 to 600. Maybe I could start 400. I'm going to wait a few weeks until I get initial bloods

@Jackorjacked welcome to the EVO family! I see you doing a lot of talking about tRT which isnt real TRT.
There is a lot of issues with your current cycle, like adding primo with deca is possible but not at those doses.
Further its hard to say what cycle you should be on without knowing MORE about you.
you understand we just guessing here right? which is dangerous, big time.
we need you to SHARE with us more if you want help actual community help.

How? well start a LOG journal of your current test deca hgh cycle in a NEW thread, put up your cycle log diet training and history and we can guide your cycle from there.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

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[Mobster]

Hello,

Need help with primobolan dose.

Started trt with clinic 3 weeks ago. 250mg Test Enanthate & 300mg deca. Also prescribed Anavar I plan to take later maybe week 12 for 8 weeks.

I also have HGH which I'm using 4iu as pre workout, 3 days. Or 2ius some mornings when I fast.

I'm 33, 98kg/ 216lbs, 15% bf. Training on and off 20 years, last 18 months consitent 3 days a week. Last cycle was nearly 5 years ago. No intention to compete, purely lifestyle and mental health.

I supplement with n2guard, sometimes multivitamin & cellary

I've been given a few primobolan vials. I was hoping for advice on dose. I know some say keep the test higher than deca. Currently it's very similar and I'm not having any issues although it's early days. What about primo? I've never used it.

I had to start taking aromasin because my face blew up and nipples were itchy week 2. I've always been super sensitive to oestrogen. I took a natural diuretic and nolva and dropped 4kgs over night (3 long pisses). Now I'm using aromasin twice weekly (with test) and all seems OK.

Anyway, I'm hoping for advice with the above in mind. Can it help remove the need for aromasin? What dose would you suggest?

What's this?

 

[Mobster]

Hello,

Need help with primobolan dose.

Started trt with clinic 3 weeks ago. 250mg Test Enanthate & 300mg deca. Also prescribed Anavar I plan to take later maybe week 12 for 8 weeks.

I also have HGH which I'm using 4iu as pre workout, 3 days. Or 2ius some mornings when I fast.

I'm 33, 98kg/ 216lbs, 15% bf. Training on and off 20 years, last 18 months consitent 3 days a week. Last cycle was nearly 5 years ago. No intention to compete, purely lifestyle and mental health.

I supplement with n2guard, sometimes multivitamin & cellary

I've been given a few primobolan vials. I was hoping for advice on dose. I know some say keep the test higher than deca. Currently it's very similar and I'm not having any issues although it's early days. What about primo? I've never used it.

I had to start taking aromasin because my face blew up and nipples were itchy week 2. I've always been super sensitive to oestrogen. I took a natural diuretic and nolva and dropped 4kgs over night (3 long pisses). Now I'm using aromasin twice weekly (with test) and all seems OK.

Anyway, I'm hoping for advice with the above in mind. Can it help remove the need for aromasin? What dose would you suggest?

What's this?

 

[e2]

to get your log Journal up immediately
it can definitely prevent you from getting a stroke

 

[2Thick]

the way bodybuilders are dying lately it's essential you get on a proper dose if you're going to cruise or stay on long term

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

LOG LOG LOG LOG
we hope that you can do a log Journal

 

[Wootoom]

looking forward to reading your log
check out the other ones and see what they did

 

[JasonPriest]

really no rule to this
you could adjust your doses as you go
my suggestion with Primo is get a high quality Source like domestic Supply

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro forget primo lol
just get tren!

 

[Quadsweep]

i'm not a fan at all of primo at anything higher then 800mgs a week
the sweet spot is 500mgs but put a log up

 

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[ceo]

bros primo i would do 300mgs minimum
anything less a waste IMO

 

[ROIDDERS]

it make sure you fix your trt dose
don't stay on that longer than 12 weeks

 

[chesty]

Primo works good
but run it 400 milligrams a week

 

[Ulter]

I know that Arnold would like to run it 100 milligrams a day
that's a big dose but it works well

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

That is not TRT man, that is a full cycle. They are just concerned with selling you gear.

 

[ballin2504]

Looks like the guys got you covered

 

[25homes]

500mg primo

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

400-500 doses would be good for you.......