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Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
20 weeks is too long bro.

Bloods should also be done monthly and the ratios are dependant on your blood work
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
There is no correct ratio. That’s bro science.
You can half both of those doses though. 300 test and 150-200 deca is more than enough if you are eating and training properly.
Your also going to want to take 50mg/day proviron to balance out dht/dhn to avoid any dick issues.
14-16 weeks is also plenty long for a cycle.
 
I Thought 20 weeks was the gold standard for deca considering its a long acting ester of nandrolone
There is no gold standard. Again bro science. You can run it for 12 weeks if you want. Any shorter than 10 and I would just switch to NPP and testP.
Deca doesn’t take super long to build up in your system. Pretty much same as test but the metabolites from deca staying your system for quite a long time. Much longer than test.
 
There is no gold standard. Again bro science. You can run it for 12 weeks if you want. Any shorter than 10 and I would just switch to NPP and testP.
Deca doesn’t take super long to build up in your system. Pretty much same as test but the metabolites from deca staying your system for quite a long time. Much longer than test.
Gotchu!
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.

I Thought 20 weeks was the gold standard for deca considering its a long acting ester of nandrolone

@Scrimbeats welcome to the EVO fam! brother im glad to see sharing like this ;) you smart to ask first before just jacking gear into your system.

The real answer is there is true ratio its going to depend on YOU like your actual cycle and journal, really? yes actually like that, every person is hella different, thus for ratios we need to know more about you, How? easy start a new thread with your current cycle log journal, put up diet training cardio sleep history and more and we can guide you with deca and the whole cycle! imagine whole community support! takes 10-15min to put up a log and 5min weekly to update easy brother

HOW-TO LOG?
  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
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Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
if you plan on recovering properly then don't ever do a 20 week 'cycle'. that is way too long. always cap at 12 weeks. i understand that deca is a long ester and i understand it doesn't peak until week 8 but who cares? you want to recover properly #1
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
@Scrimbeats bro you looking good! pushing 20 week cycle impressive. that way its done
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
bros 20 weeks long. you planning on staying on after? @Scrimbeats
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
@Scrimbeats 20 weeks is too long. 14 weeks max. 12 weeks is more ideal. you want to recover?
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
@Scrimbeats i would add proviron. it is very important when using deca. it will balance things out
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
there is no rule to how much test to deca ratio. you can do it either way. i like deca 400, test 200 and proviron or mast with it
 
No im going to cruise on 200 after
@Scrimbeats 200 too low for cruise depends really, why did you ignore my earlier post brother? i dont see your log up
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/test-deca-ratio.105984/post-1800292
@Scrimbeats welcome to the EVO fam! brother im glad to see sharing like this ;) you smart to ask first before just jacking gear into your system.

The real answer is there is true ratio its going to depend on YOU like your actual cycle and journal, really? yes actually like that, every person is hella different, thus for ratios we need to know more about you, How? easy start a new thread with your current cycle log journal, put up diet training cardio sleep history and more and we can guide you with deca and the whole cycle! imagine whole community support! takes 10-15min to put up a log and 5min weekly to update easy brother

HOW-TO LOG?
  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
 
@Scrimbeats 200 too low for cruise depends really, why did you ignore my earlier post brother? i dont see your log up
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/test-deca-ratio.105984/post-1800292
Wont really be able to log daily bro ive got a job and a degree im pursuing . But ill give you some info about me currently. Im 21 years old looking to go for a pro card, been training naturally for 5 years with a consistent not so strict diet & split . I dont really take much photos of myself in the gym i usually go in the morning train for about an hour to an hour and a half and dip to work. Will post my results after the cycle ends :) . Currently on 350 test 150 deca just assessing side effects . I have caber and proviron on hand if needed. Only thing i havent done is check my bloodwork because its very overpriced here in my country and im on a strict budget ( 60% of my income is on food alone ).
 
Wont really be able to log daily bro ive got a job and a degree im pursuing . But ill give you some info about me currently. Im 21 years old looking to go for a pro card, been training naturally for 5 years with a consistent not so strict diet & split . I dont really take much photos of myself in the gym i usually go in the morning train for about an hour to an hour and a half and dip to work. Will post my results after the cycle ends :) . Currently on 350 test 150 deca just assessing side effects . I have caber and proviron on hand if needed. Only thing i havent done is check my bloodwork because its very overpriced here in my country and im on a strict budget ( 60% of my income is on food alone ).
You don't need to log daily to have a log journal brother ;0 @Scrimbeats you can update log 1x/week thats 5-10min of your time
and if you're 21 wanting to get a pro card, if you can't keep a log you cant get a pro card, logging journaling is #1 what you need to hit that sweet IFBB pro card
 
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca-Durabolin) is a popular anabolic steroid known for its muscle-building and joint-supportive properties—but it also comes with some tricky side effects, especially when used in a stacked cycle. Here’s a breakdown:


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⚠️ Nandrolone Decanoate – Common & Hard-to-Manage Side Effects

1. Sexual Dysfunction / “Deca Dick” (Hardest to Manage)

Cause: Nandrolone has a strong progestogenic effect and suppresses natural testosterone and DHT levels (especially in the penis and brain).

Symptoms: Low libido, erectile dysfunction, difficulty achieving orgasm, anorgasmia.

Why it's hard: Doesn’t always resolve with high testosterone; DHT suppression + elevated prolactin are tough to balance.

Management:

Add a DHT derivative (like Masteron or Proviron).

Cabergoline or Pramipexole to control prolactin.

Keep testosterone dose ≥ nandrolone dose (e.g., 2:1 ratio minimum).

HCG can help with LH suppression, but won’t solve libido alone.




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2. Prolactin Elevation

Cause: Nandrolone’s progestin nature stimulates prolactin.

Symptoms: Gyno, mood swings, sexual dysfunction, lactation (rare).

Hard to manage: Even with estrogen controlled, prolactin-related gyno may occur.

Management:

Blood test to confirm: prolactin > 15 ng/mL is often problematic.

Cabergoline (0.25–0.5 mg 2x/week) or Pramipexole (0.125–0.5 mg/day).




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3. Suppression of Natural Testosterone

Cause: Nandrolone suppresses LH/FSH heavily.

Symptoms: Testicular atrophy, low libido, fatigue, post-cycle crash.

Management: Must run a proper PCT (Clomid/Nolva), or stay on TRT long term if blasting & cruising.

NOTE: Recovery from a nandrolone cycle can take longer than with Test alone—some users report months of low T symptoms.



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4. Bloat & Water Retention

Cause: Estrogen + progesterone synergy increases fluid retention.

Symptoms: Puffy face, ankles, soft look despite muscle gain.

Management:

Keep estrogen in check: Anastrozole or Letrozole.

Watch sodium intake and monitor blood pressure.

Avoid stacking with high aromatizing compounds.




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5. Slow Clearance / Long Detection Time

Half-life: ~15 days; fully clears in 6–8 weeks after last shot.

Hard to manage: Side effects or shutdown persist long after discontinuation.

Implication: Not ideal if you want to quickly stop due to side effects.



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6. Mood & Cognitive Effects

Can cause brain fog, apathy, low motivation.

May result from dopamine suppression (related to prolactin).



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7. Other Risks

Hematocrit increase: Thickened blood—especially if stacked with EQ or Test.

Cholesterol imbalance: ↓ HDL, ↑ LDL.

Liver strain (minor): Generally low, but oral stacks can amplify risk.

Cardiovascular stress: Watch BP—fluid retention worsens it.



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✅ Stacking Tips to Reduce Side Effects

Problem Solution

Prolactin/Gyno Risk Add Cabergoline, keep Test:Nandrolone = 2:1, consider Proviron
Libido/ED Add DHT derivative (Proviron, Masteron)
Bloat Use AI (Anastrozole), avoid excess sodium
Long shutdown Be ready for aggressive PCT or TRT
Mood issues Use Dopamine agonists, monitor mental health



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🧠 Bottom Line:

Effective for bulking, joint relief, and collagen synthesis.

Sexual dysfunction and prolactin-related sides are the hardest to manage.

Best reserved for experienced users with solid bloodwork monitoring and side effect management protocols in place.


Boldenone undecylenate imo is a way better choice due to way less side effects and super easy to mange in a cycle
 
I Thought 20 weeks was the gold standard for deca considering its a long acting ester of nandrolone
Even long esters reach full peak 6-8 week mark so 12 weeks is plenty ive never run a cycle over 12 weeks in 3 years and ive seen nothing but results and progress each run, i log all my runs since the start, i run nothing but long esters besides a few orals here and there, this current cycle is long ester mast and test i put on over 12lbs and still have a ways left on cycle.
 
Hello everyone, This is What I’m going to be running ( or at least what i had in mind until my mate said i need to run deca lower)

20 week cycle bloodwork before, mid and after cycle.
- 600 test cyp (2x a week 300mg IM injection)
- 400 deca ( 2x a week 200mg IM injection)

don’t know if I’m running test or deca too high or low, currently on 350mg a week test cyp no side effects.
@Scrimbeats thats a long cycle. I’m not opposed to it but other people will be.
 
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