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Hey everyone!
I’ve read PED forums to base my cycles off of for a while but never directly asked for any input so I thought I’d run my next planned cycle by you guys to see if there’s anything you’d recommend.

A few things about me
27 years old
5’9” 182lbs at about 13% bf
I’ve been training since I was 17 but started taking it seriously for the past 6 years
I train 5 days a week, and do about 20 minutes of cardio each of those days at the end of my workout
I am moving around all day for my job (I end up walking about 18k steps a day)
Diet is planned at 2700 calories/day with macros being 45% protein 25% carbs and 30% fats
I’ve done 5 cycles so far and this will be my first time trying tren

My goals for the cycle are the same as most in that I would like to mainly build a good amount of lean mass while also losing some of my body fat. I’d like to get to 10%bf while building mass as much as I can.

This is what I have planned for a 10 week cycle

Tren e 200/week (2 100mg pins a week) weeks 1-10
Test e 400/week (2 200mg pins a week) weeks 1-10
Var 50 ED weeks 1-8
Cabergoline .25mg E3D weeks 1-10
Aromasin 12.5mg ED weeks 1-10
Cardarine 20mg ED start of cycle to end of pct
N2guard 1 serving ED weeks 1-10

I was going to include Clen as I have run it numerous times in the past with very few sides, but I’m hearing that it can be nasty when run with Tren so I’m probably not going to add Clen.

As for PCT, I am going to follow the Perfect PCT on this site like I have for my other cycles.

Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
MountableMonty said:
Hey everyone!
I’ve read PED forums to base my cycles off of for a while but never directly asked for any input so I thought I’d run my next planned cycle by you guys to see if there’s anything you’d recommend.

A few things about me
27 years old
5’9” 182lbs at about 13% bf
I’ve been training since I was 17 but started taking it seriously for the past 6 years
I train 5 days a week, and do about 20 minutes of cardio each of those days at the end of my workout
I am moving around all day for my job (I end up walking about 18k steps a day)
Diet is planned at 2700 calories/day with macros being 45% protein 25% carbs and 30% fats
I’ve done 5 cycles so far and this will be my first time trying tren

My goals for the cycle are the same as most in that I would like to mainly build a good amount of lean mass while also losing some of my body fat. I’d like to get to 10%bf while building mass as much as I can.

This is what I have planned for a 10 week cycle

Tren e 200/week (2 100mg pins a week) weeks 1-10
Test e 400/week (2 200mg pins a week) weeks 1-10
Var 50 ED weeks 1-8
Cabergoline .25mg E3D weeks 1-10
Aromasin 12.5mg ED weeks 1-10
Cardarine 20mg ED start of cycle to end of pct
N2guard 1 serving ED weeks 1-10

I was going to include Clen as I have run it numerous times in the past with very few sides, but I’m hearing that it can be nasty when run with Tren so I’m probably not going to add Clen.

As for PCT, I am going to follow the Perfect PCT on this site like I have for my other cycles.

Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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The impact of Tren on cardio then adding the potential sides of clen... could be nasty. Both can be nasty on their own for many users
 
Mobster said:
The impact of Tren on cardio then adding the potential sides of clen... could be nasty. Both can be nasty on their own for many users
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Yeah the general consensus seems to be that Tren+Clen is a bad time. So even though I experience very few sides with Clen, I’ll be dropping it for this cycle.
 
imagine tren As the common denominator.

There are certain things that you never want to Stack with it.

superdrol, clen, other stims, diuretics and other either very androgenic or estrogenic compounds. the amount of problems make it Completely counterproductive.
 
MountableMonty said:
Hey everyone!
I’ve read PED forums to base my cycles off of for a while but never directly asked for any input so I thought I’d run my next planned cycle by you guys to see if there’s anything you’d recommend.

A few things about me
27 years old
5’9” 182lbs at about 13% bf
I’ve been training since I was 17 but started taking it seriously for the past 6 years
I train 5 days a week, and do about 20 minutes of cardio each of those days at the end of my workout
I am moving around all day for my job (I end up walking about 18k steps a day)
Diet is planned at 2700 calories/day with macros being 45% protein 25% carbs and 30% fats
I’ve done 5 cycles so far and this will be my first time trying tren

My goals for the cycle are the same as most in that I would like to mainly build a good amount of lean mass while also losing some of my body fat. I’d like to get to 10%bf while building mass as much as I can.

This is what I have planned for a 10 week cycle

Tren e 200/week (2 100mg pins a week) weeks 1-10
Test e 400/week (2 200mg pins a week) weeks 1-10
Var 50 ED weeks 1-8
Cabergoline .25mg E3D weeks 1-10
Aromasin 12.5mg ED weeks 1-10
Cardarine 20mg ED start of cycle to end of pct
N2guard 1 serving ED weeks 1-10

I was going to include Clen as I have run it numerous times in the past with very few sides, but I’m hearing that it can be nasty when run with Tren so I’m probably not going to add Clen.

As for PCT, I am going to follow the Perfect PCT on this site like I have for my other cycles.

Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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@MountableMonty I like your cycle but you can do aromasin EOD not ED and I also dont like using clenbuterol with trenbolone.

Perfect pct is the way to go after, you can use the clenbuterol 20mcg ed for 2 weeks in pct btw when off trenbolone I had clients do that.

With this cycle we need you to share your LOG journal with the community @MountableMonty its a must for us to see it asap. Dont wait until injections start the log NOW!

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

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example: My testosterone trenbolone anavar cutting cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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i say go with tren and clen why not
A lot of guys I compete against are definitely on them. If you want to make it onstage and be the very best, you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
You are a pro bodybuilder, correct? Therefore there is no reason to run things that Pros are running. Go the more conservative route and save yourself the headaches.
 
Yes, 100%. We need a log Journal. We have hundreds of years of experience. We need to hear everything about you, so we can lead you the right way.
 
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I would personally forget about using clenbuterol, it really messed me up. I almost got a stroke on it just run Tren and forget it.
 
If he wants to run some Clen with some Tren, then what is the big deal?
The important thing is he gets a log up. This way, we can track his side effects and if he needs to change something, he can change something.
 
drop the clen bro
 
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