Ugl statines and or ARBs?

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-25T08:11:31-0400

Supp bro's!

The title speaks for itself, I'm looking for ugl statines and ARBs, still pretty healthy atm so it's not needed immediately but I've never seen it being sold at any that I'm aware of so I'm not even sure if its a thing some ugl's do sell.

I prefer to know where to go too before I need to be there cuz my doctor doesn't want to provide medications like those as long as I keep using AAS

Idunno who cares but this the reason why;
I've been cruising on about 110mg test e a week (recently switched to test u) when I'm not cycling for 2 years now, with that my levels peak around 1900ng/dl or 66nmol/l.
A little while ago after a 2,5month crash diet I've cut from 85kg/187lb to 69kg/152lb while riding a bicycle of test, mast, primo, tesofensine, semaglutide, clen, t3, t4 and 3 weeks of superdrol, after that I had the worst blood work results I've had thus far (no surprise) I still didn't have any scary values but still; LDL maxed out, HDL lower then ever, liver was just a tiny bit stressed, inflammatory markers were little higher than usual

All this is probably fixed already with the supps I take, I just like to have things on hand or know where to get it when needed so I know I can get it under control when necessary

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-25T08:17:04-0400

Btw, important detail... It needs to be worldwide shipping or EU to the Netherlands

LevButlerov · 2025-06-25T19:19:14-0400

MRCdVRS said:
Supp bro's!

The title speaks for itself, I'm looking for ugl statines and ARBs, still pretty healthy atm so it's not needed immediately but I've never seen it being sold at any that I'm aware of so I'm not even sure if its a thing some ugl's do sell.

I prefer to know where to go too before I need to be there cuz my doctor doesn't want to provide medications like those as long as I keep using AAS

Idunno who cares but this the reason why;
I've been cruising on about 110mg test e a week (recently switched to test u) when I'm not cycling for 2 years now, with that my levels peak around 1900ng/dl or 66nmol/l.
A little while ago after a 2,5month crash diet I've cut from 85kg/187lb to 69kg/152lb while riding a bicycle of test, mast, primo, tesofensine, semaglutide, clen, t3, t4 and 3 weeks of superdrol, after that I had the worst blood work results I've had thus far (no surprise) I still didn't have any scary values but still; LDL maxed out, HDL lower then ever, liver was just a tiny bit stressed, inflammatory markers were little higher than usual

All this is probably fixed already with the supps I take, I just like to have things on hand or know where to get it when needed so I know I can get it under control when necessary

MRCdVRS said:
Btw, important detail... It needs to be worldwide shipping or EU to the Netherlands

@MRCdVRS welcome to the EVO family

before we go on, I found your description very scary, you ran too much and what are you running now? this is serious, we need to understand if you went cold turkey or still on or what? do you have a log prepped?

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-25T20:23:49-0400

LevButlerov said:
@MRCdVRS welcome to the EVO family before we go on, I found your description very scary, you ran too much and what are you running now? this is serious, we need to understand if you went cold turkey or still on or what? do you have a log prepped?

That log is a bit all over the place and in dutch... You're right and I'm not doing it again this way but I just wanted to see how quickly I could cut back to below 70kg from 85kg (2.5months), I used a lot of compounds but I don't push dosages;
* test, prim, mast combo well below a gram ew,
* used tesofensine first from 0.2 to 0.4mg ed
* Started with semaglutide after that at 0.33g to 0.5g ew
* Added 25mcg t3 and 50mcg t4 from the last 5 weeks
* Same with clen only last 5 weeks w1 20mcg, w2 40 & w3-5 60
* SD w1-3 15mg on leg days only, w4-5 15mg ed

Most days I ate around 500kcal total but sometimes up to 1500 mostly from egg whites and potatoes, I ate tons of veggies, this whole time I trained to maintain which I think I did (mostly)

After that back on same old protocol that I use year round of 110mg test ew

LevButlerov · 2025-06-25T20:48:01-0400

MRCdVRS said:
That log is a bit all over the place and in dutch... You're right and I'm not doing it again this way but I just wanted to see how quickly I could cut back to below 70kg from 85kg (2.5months), I used a lot of compounds but I don't push dosages;
* test, prim, mast combo well below a gram ew,
* used tesofensine first from 0.2 to 0.4mg ed
* Started with semaglutide after that at 0.33g to 0.5g ew
* Added 25mcg t3 and 50mcg t4 from the last 5 weeks
* Same with clen only last 5 weeks w1 20mcg, w2 40 & w3-5 60
* SD w1-3 15mg on leg days only, w4-5 15mg ed

Most days I ate around 500kcal total but sometimes up to 1500 mostly from egg whites and potatoes, I ate tons of veggies, this whole time I trained to maintain which I think I did (mostly)

After that back on same old protocol that I use year round of 110mg test ew

@MRCdVRS its best you start a new thread with your LOG journal, this way we can follow it as a big EVO family and you get full community support, very difficult to follow 1 off posts and give you good advice.

start a new thread with your log please, it will take you 15min and you have base info and 5min/week to update easy to do.

HOW-TO LOG?

To really guide you we need more info from you.
Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

stevesmi · 2025-06-25T21:03:27-0400

MRCdVRS said:
That log is a bit all over the place and in dutch... You're right and I'm not doing it again this way but I just wanted to see how quickly I could cut back to below 70kg from 85kg (2.5months), I used a lot of compounds but I don't push dosages;
* test, prim, mast combo well below a gram ew,
* used tesofensine first from 0.2 to 0.4mg ed
* Started with semaglutide after that at 0.33g to 0.5g ew
* Added 25mcg t3 and 50mcg t4 from the last 5 weeks
* Same with clen only last 5 weeks w1 20mcg, w2 40 & w3-5 60
* SD w1-3 15mg on leg days only, w4-5 15mg ed

Most days I ate around 500kcal total but sometimes up to 1500 mostly from egg whites and potatoes, I ate tons of veggies, this whole time I trained to maintain which I think I did (mostly)

After that back on same old protocol that I use year round of 110mg test ew

I am not understanding your strategy
seems like youa re just throwing things at your body and hoping it sticks
i would consolidate things @MRCdVRS

BodyMonster34 · 2025-06-25T22:20:16-0400

MRCdVRS said:
Supp bro's!

The title speaks for itself, I'm looking for ugl statines and ARBs, still pretty healthy atm so it's not needed immediately but I've never seen it being sold at any that I'm aware of so I'm not even sure if its a thing some ugl's do sell.

I prefer to know where to go too before I need to be there cuz my doctor doesn't want to provide medications like those as long as I keep using AAS

Idunno who cares but this the reason why;
I've been cruising on about 110mg test e a week (recently switched to test u) when I'm not cycling for 2 years now, with that my levels peak around 1900ng/dl or 66nmol/l.
A little while ago after a 2,5month crash diet I've cut from 85kg/187lb to 69kg/152lb while riding a bicycle of test, mast, primo, tesofensine, semaglutide, clen, t3, t4 and 3 weeks of superdrol, after that I had the worst blood work results I've had thus far (no surprise) I still didn't have any scary values but still; LDL maxed out, HDL lower then ever, liver was just a tiny bit stressed, inflammatory markers were little higher than usual

All this is probably fixed already with the supps I take, I just like to have things on hand or know where to get it when needed so I know I can get it under control when necessary

@MRCdVRS bro cruising on low dose no good
jack up the dose
i like to cruise on bodybuilder TRT 400mgs a week of tren

Mobster · 2025-06-26T01:26:16-0400

I'm not seeing your age.

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-26T02:13:14-0400

27, I'll fix my profile today

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-26T02:42:15-0400

MRCdVRS said:
27, I'll fix my profile today

Can't edit profile yet it seems

2Thick · 2025-06-26T09:02:11-0400

MRCdVRS said:
Supp bro's!

The title speaks for itself, I'm looking for ugl statines and ARBs, still pretty healthy atm so it's not needed immediately but I've never seen it being sold at any that I'm aware of so I'm not even sure if its a thing some ugl's do sell.

I prefer to know where to go too before I need to be there cuz my doctor doesn't want to provide medications like those as long as I keep using AAS

Idunno who cares but this the reason why;
I've been cruising on about 110mg test e a week (recently switched to test u) when I'm not cycling for 2 years now, with that my levels peak around 1900ng/dl or 66nmol/l.
A little while ago after a 2,5month crash diet I've cut from 85kg/187lb to 69kg/152lb while riding a bicycle of test, mast, primo, tesofensine, semaglutide, clen, t3, t4 and 3 weeks of superdrol, after that I had the worst blood work results I've had thus far (no surprise) I still didn't have any scary values but still; LDL maxed out, HDL lower then ever, liver was just a tiny bit stressed, inflammatory markers were little higher than usual

All this is probably fixed already with the supps I take, I just like to have things on hand or know where to get it when needed so I know I can get it under control when necessary

@MRCdVRS when in doubt cycle off
support supps are important though. run n2guard it goes a long way

ceo · 2025-06-26T09:18:41-0400

MRCdVRS said:
Supp bro's!

The title speaks for itself, I'm looking for ugl statines and ARBs, still pretty healthy atm so it's not needed immediately but I've never seen it being sold at any that I'm aware of so I'm not even sure if its a thing some ugl's do sell.

I prefer to know where to go too before I need to be there cuz my doctor doesn't want to provide medications like those as long as I keep using AAS

Idunno who cares but this the reason why;
I've been cruising on about 110mg test e a week (recently switched to test u) when I'm not cycling for 2 years now, with that my levels peak around 1900ng/dl or 66nmol/l.
A little while ago after a 2,5month crash diet I've cut from 85kg/187lb to 69kg/152lb while riding a bicycle of test, mast, primo, tesofensine, semaglutide, clen, t3, t4 and 3 weeks of superdrol, after that I had the worst blood work results I've had thus far (no surprise) I still didn't have any scary values but still; LDL maxed out, HDL lower then ever, liver was just a tiny bit stressed, inflammatory markers were little higher than usual

All this is probably fixed already with the supps I take, I just like to have things on hand or know where to get it when needed so I know I can get it under control when necessary

bros you don't have a doctor who can hook you up?
Should always be working with good heart doctor cardiologist. If you need it, they will hook you up.
@MRCdVRS

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-26T10:31:48-0400

2Thick said:
@MRCdVRS when in doubt cycle off
support supps are important though. run n2guard it goes a long way

Already back on trt dose right now, cycle was only from early February till mid April did bloodtest right after ALAT was double the reference range, was to be expected after superdrol and everything else → I'm still taking tudca and NAC (and more) so should be alright by now. And for the first time since I've started using AAS 3 years ago my LDL reached the max and HDL the bottom of the reference ranges, thats why i asked if ugl statines even exist or not, for now made some dietary changes and increased the dose of red rice yeast

ceo said:
bros you don't have a doctor who can hook you up?
Should always be working with good heart doctor cardiologist. If you need it, they will hook you up.
@MRCdVRS

Nope, here we have our personal doctor and he's the the first person you go too, if needed he sends you to a specialist but if he doesn't want to do that he just doesn't do it, and I can't make an appointment with a specialist myself. My doctor says "if you stop taking steroids there's no need to check your heart, so if you're worried about your heart just stop using steroids"

Ulter · 2025-06-26T13:23:08-0400

MRCdVRS said:
Already back on trt dose right now, cycle was only from early February till mid April did bloodtest right after ALAT was double the reference range, was to be expected after superdrol and everything else → I'm still taking tudca and NAC (and more) so should be alright by now. And for the first time since I've started using AAS 3 years ago my LDL reached the max and HDL the bottom of the reference ranges, thats why i asked if ugl statines even exist or not, for now made some dietary changes and increased the dose of red rice yeast

Nope, here we have our personal doctor and he's the the first person you go too, if needed he sends you to a specialist but if he doesn't want to do that he just doesn't do it, and I can't make an appointment with a specialist myself. My doctor says "if you stop taking steroids there's no need to check your heart, so if you're worried about your heart just stop using steroids"

your doctor isn't wrong. but you need to better communicate. tell him you are going to use steroids one way or another so he can either help you or refer you to someone who will. talk to other bodybuilders about it in your town @MRCdVRS

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-26T14:27:59-0400

Ulter said:
your doctor isn't wrong. but you need to better communicate. tell him you are going to use steroids one way or another so he can either help you or refer you to someone who will. talk to other bodybuilders about it in your town @MRCdVRS

I did confront him about exactly that but it didn't help, I'm in the process of switching to another doctor now but there is a shortage of doctors so this is going to take a while, I'm very active on the only Dutch bodybuilding forum which is a big help but I actually don't know anyone irl who's also using

ROIDDERS · 2025-06-26T14:42:25-0400

MRCdVRS said:
Supp bro's!

The title speaks for itself, I'm looking for ugl statines and ARBs, still pretty healthy atm so it's not needed immediately but I've never seen it being sold at any that I'm aware of so I'm not even sure if its a thing some ugl's do sell.

I prefer to know where to go too before I need to be there cuz my doctor doesn't want to provide medications like those as long as I keep using AAS

Idunno who cares but this the reason why;
I've been cruising on about 110mg test e a week (recently switched to test u) when I'm not cycling for 2 years now, with that my levels peak around 1900ng/dl or 66nmol/l.
A little while ago after a 2,5month crash diet I've cut from 85kg/187lb to 69kg/152lb while riding a bicycle of test, mast, primo, tesofensine, semaglutide, clen, t3, t4 and 3 weeks of superdrol, after that I had the worst blood work results I've had thus far (no surprise) I still didn't have any scary values but still; LDL maxed out, HDL lower then ever, liver was just a tiny bit stressed, inflammatory markers were little higher than usual

All this is probably fixed already with the supps I take, I just like to have things on hand or know where to get it when needed so I know I can get it under control when necessary

@MRCdVRS just curious what are your markers where you are worried?
if you have severe blood pressure issues then using steroids IS risky
they can also increase your chance of blood clots. keep that in mind

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-26T16:40:25-0400

Bloodtest was done on 30th of may and I don't worry about it to much because I've put my body through something very taxing not long before.
3 markers I did take note of were LDL 3mmol/L, HDL 1mmol/L for this I made some dietary changes and increased my red rice yeast and fishoils & ALAT was 80 which is way to high but I've been using superdrol the last weeks before testing, I take NAC, coq10 & tudca. Also had clear signs of high shbg, lots of dht derivatives + high intensity exercise + way to caloric restricted but that marker was not included but proviron did the job

MRCdVRS · 2025-06-26T16:46:37-0400

And blood pressure is steady 120/60 or a little below that, I keep measuring at least weekly but it doesn't matter (for now) what and how much I take, bp stays the same. Hematocrit too, was 0.44 while I was natty and is still 0.44 after 3 years of continuous use

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