Interesting mate heard of metformin for the partitioning but never l carnatine thats a new one for me! Did my off season relatively well so far so don’t need a drastic cut just a bit of a tidy up to drive progress on againCould be worth some injectable l carnitine and metformin to help with weight loss.
It's pretty mild I wouldn't count it as an anabolic metformin is amazing though alongside aas though.Interesting mate heard of metformin for the partitioning but never l carnatine thats a new one for me! Did my off season relatively well so far so don’t need a drastic cut just a bit of a tidy up to drive progress on againCoach I was working under usually just does clen as his fat burner along with whatever other anabolics. Be interesting to see what kinda drug and training protocol he puts me on in a few weeks when I’m back! Also the 400th reply on my post cheers bro
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@BigCheese2000 Solid work right here!Fasted Weight:88.3kg
Sleep: 7 hours
Training:
Pull 1:
Prime Dual Arm Pulldown: 80x8, x8, 60x12
T-Bar Row: 60x6, 45x13, 32.5x14
Hammer Strength SA Row: 60 p/s x 8, 40 p/s x 12
Prime Seated Row: 75x8, 50x12
Rear Delt Fly: 33x14, 26x17
SA Preacher: 10x 8, x8
Incline DB Curl: 12x9, x8
Fantastic Pull today, similar movements except for the prime pulldown and hammer Strength row which felt fantastic. Happy numbers wise everything overloaded and up a rep or two otherwise. Training has been insane, aggression and numbers have skyrocketed.
Sides:
Nothing to report as of yet. I do get a few spots when pushing dosages but no massive breakout or cystic acne which is good. Feel great overall. Only positive sides really.
Honestly bro 8 kilos max should be me really just to fully tidy up! I can clear weight extremely quickly too, if I drop to 3k cals I will be 4-5 kilos down in a week it’s nuts. It’s gonna be visual dependant too I reckon I can get away with 4 weeks. But just depends how everything goes over the next few weeks!Damn a 6-8 week minimum sounds rough as haha.
how much you looking to lose you think?
Yeah mine was about 4 weeks and I dropped about 4-5kg.Honestly bro 8 kilos max should be me really just to fully tidy up! I can clear weight extremely quickly too, if I drop to 3k cals I will be 4-5 kilos down in a week it’s nuts. It’s gonna be visual dependant too I reckon I can get away with 4 weeks. But just depends how everything goes over the next few weeks!
good rest day bro @BigCheese2000Rest Day:
Pretty unremarkable one overall. Cals will be dropped to 3k. Plan is to go 6-8 weeks minicut wise and asses visuals as I go. Will probs be updated training and nutrition once I get kicking with the coach as well so will keep everyone posted in regards to that.
Starting point weight wise 88kg on the button:
Don’t have a massive amount of body fat to shift. But have noticed appetite is kinds ass as of late which is bound to happen it’s been a big push up phase. Still just under 11 weeks on cycle though. But again if cycle is extended via coach I will update immediately
Appreciate that bro looking forward to Sunday check inYeah mine was about 4 weeks and I dropped about 4-5kg.
Back up at that weight now but alot higher.
Can't wait to see how you look![]()
Fuck yes primo is the bestAppreciate that bro looking forward to Sunday check ingetting going with my coach after my holiday as well but he’s told me in advance get some primo in
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100% bro! He’s thinking test primo mast and then a bit of gh to compliment. I stayed fairly close with him and will be hiring him once I get back from holidays but that’s the general plan anywayFuck yes primo is the best
Seems like all coachs love the test primo cycle
Love the cycle100% bro! He’s thinking test primo mast and then a bit of gh to compliment. I stayed fairly close with him and will be hiring him once I get back from holidays but that’s the general plan anyway![]()
Will be keen to see bro! He just peaked my mate for a competition! Was looking at a coach over here but ive worked with him for 8 months before, he knows my body and how I react to different things too! And we get on quite well! At 280 dollars a month too he’s quite reasonable price wiseLove the cycle
Yeah pretty good price i would sayWill be keen to see bro! He just peaked my mate for a competition! Was looking at a coach over here but ive worked with him for 8 months before, he knows my body and how I react to different things too! And we get on quite well! At 280 dollars a month too he’s quite reasonable price wise
The studies on metformin are done by drug companies, with over 80% of studies fake these days I wouldn't trust it at all @RoidRage69metformin is not harsh at all. Simply add vit b to your daily intake. I figure most on here already do since vit b supps combat many of the sides from AAS. I take 1500mg metformin per day and have zero sides.
It's one of the easiest drugs to get an online script for because it is so safe.
U look more leaner!!Check in:
Fasted weight: 86kg
Weekly run down:
Have had some digestive issues for maybe 4-5 days now. Initially was worried but got to the root of it. As my girlfriend and I are going on a holiday to Indonesia her sister is a doctor and recommended probiotics to prevent any stomach issues that may arise. Evidently these work well with their gut health but kills mine. I do have quite a sensitive stomach though so the introduction of new gut bacteria killed me. No appetite and feeling of discomfort all day with some vomiting. Only clicked with me last night while on a walk. I’ve pulled them out the last 2 days and I’m feeling about 90% there stomach wise. So check in is the slight at bit flat. Also explains the initial 2kg drop as well rather than something a bit more gradual.
Cheers big man. Possibly only a 4 week mini cut to shift some body fat before hopping on coaching. Didn’t have a large amount to pull off anyway. But it seems digestion won’t be an issue now so it’s purely stripping a bit to really drive lean gains onU look more leaner!
Sneak in some dnp we won't tell anyoneCheers big man. Possibly only a 4 week mini cut to shift some body fat before hopping on coaching. Didn’t have a large amount to pull off anyway. But it seems digestion won’t be an issue now so it’s purely stripping a bit to really drive lean gains on
Bro with the weather getting warmer here and my heat tolerance I’d either :Sneak in some dnp we won't tell anyone![]()
@BigCheese2000 pull day is really strong, but the stomach issue thats digestive right? you doing probiotics?Training:
Pull 2:
Hammer Strength Pullover: 35x9, 25x12
Prime extreme row: 60 p/s x 8, 40 p/s x 12
SA Lat horizontal row: 8 x 8, 7x12
Double Arm prime Neutral Pulldown: 85x8, 62.5 x 11
Rear delt fly: 40x8, 33x13
Prime Preacher:31x8, x8, 21 x 12
Incline DB Curl: 12.5x8, x8
Great pull day today. Stomach still pretty shit but doesn’t affect my sessions so all good! Rearranged movements but all done previously so just following on from before. Happy numbers wise and excited to run them up through end of cycle![]()
Funnily enough that’s what has actually caused the digestive issues. Only thing I’ve introduced that’s been different. But from research some probiotics can cause chaos in the gut. Evidently the one I got was causing big issues. I’ve pulled out probiotics nearly 2 days now and I’m already feeling 10 times better. It was only in preparation for a holiday. But I had great digestion before and had 0 issues so won’t be introducing them again@BigCheese2000 pull day is really strong, but the stomach issue thats digestive right? you doing probiotics?
if you have gut issues after taking probiotics, you have digestive issues overall like gut bacteria improper mixFunnily enough that’s what has actually caused the digestive issues. Only thing I’ve introduced that’s been different. But from research some probiotics can cause chaos in the gut. Evidently the one I got was causing big issues. I’ve pulled out probiotics nearly 2 days now and I’m already feeling 10 times better. It was only in preparation for a holiday. But I had great digestion before and had 0 issues so won’t be introducing them again
Stoked to have you on board brother!!Fasted weight: 85.8
Sleep: 9.5 hours
Just a quick one to start but just announcing I’m going to be logging some @BigBoyLabs gear. He’s going to float me over some gh to compliment my @DofRandD anabolics! As you’d know from my previous logging R&D is a great bloke and has a keen eye on sorting out the community. BBL is a top bloke also and I’m looking forward to working with both towards the stage next year
Training:
Push 1:
Life Pec Dec: 85x8, 51x13 + Drop Set
Hammer Strength incline: 50 p/s x 8, 35 p/s x 12
Prime Flat Pec Pin: 73x8, 43x13
Lat Raise Machine: 22.5x8, 12.5x12, 7.5x14 + Rest Pause
Cybex Shoulder: 60 p/s x 8, 40 p/s x 12 +Drop Set
Tri Push: 28x8, 21x13 + Drop Set
Cable Skullcrusher: 17.5x9, 12.5x13 + Drop Set
Thoughts:
Savage push day overall. In a bit of an aggressive minicut so taking smaller and measured progressions. Definitely accumulating fatigue a small bit quicker but still overloading every set. Plan is to take 1.25-2.5kg jumps and retain performance at the very least.
Sides:
No significant sides to speak of currently. Feel absolutely awesome! Performance is good and from todays pic body fat is shifting hence the shorter duration mini cut wise. For the body fat I was starting at 4 weeks should be more than enough. Especially with a beach holiday coming up at the end of the week it will be nice to reduce the off season gut
have to fly the flag for Ireland over here mate I presume there aren’t many others@DofRandD and @BigBoyLabs building army of mutant Aussie!!!! Can’t go wrong with bbl enjoy ur gh ride.
Sending this to home affairs, no pr and citizenship for youhave to fly the flag for Ireland over here mate I presume there aren’t many others![]()
I retract my statement officerSending this to home affairs, no pr and citizenship for you![]()
Good solid workout.Training:
Pull 2:
Hammer Strength Pullover: 35x9, 25x12
Prime extreme row: 60 p/s x 8, 40 p/s x 12
SA Lat horizontal row: 8 x 8, 7x12
Double Arm prime Neutral Pulldown: 85x8, 62.5 x 11
Rear delt fly: 40x8, 33x13
Prime Preacher:31x8, x8, 21 x 12
Incline DB Curl: 12.5x8, x8
Great pull day today. Stomach still pretty shit but doesn’t affect my sessions so all good! Rearranged movements but all done previously so just following on from before. Happy numbers wise and excited to run them up through end of cycle![]()
@BigCheese2000 when i feel shit I fast!Training:
Pull 2:
Hammer Strength Pullover: 35x9, 25x12
Prime extreme row: 60 p/s x 8, 40 p/s x 12
SA Lat horizontal row: 8 x 8, 7x12
Double Arm prime Neutral Pulldown: 85x8, 62.5 x 11
Rear delt fly: 40x8, 33x13
Prime Preacher:31x8, x8, 21 x 12
Incline DB Curl: 12.5x8, x8
Great pull day today. Stomach still pretty shit but doesn’t affect my sessions so all good! Rearranged movements but all done previously so just following on from before. Happy numbers wise and excited to run them up through end of cycle![]()
@BigCheese2000 no sides is good, and training is steady but need more sleepFasted Weight: 84kg
Sleep: 6 hours
Training:
Pull 1:
Prime Dual Lat Pull: 87.5x8, x8, 62.5x12
T-Bar Row: 61.25x6, 46.25x12
Hammer Strength SA Row: 62.5x8, 42.5x12
Prime Seated Row: 75x8, 50x12
Rear Delt Fly: 47x9, 33x14
Prime Preacher Curl: 31x8, x8, 21x12
Incline DB Curl: 12.5x9, 9x12
Great session overall everything overloaded. Again all slow and steady but got a wicked pump this morning. Slightly earlier session, I did feel a tad bit weaker compared to my normal training time but nothing major.
Sides:
No sides to report as of yet. Sleep was meh last night but I’m gonna put that down to the warm weather and me generally running hot. I got to sleep no problem with ac but I had it set to turn off during the night and I reckon that woke me in the morning.
Big sesh! Love to see it from theFasted Weight: 84kg
Sleep: 6 hours
Training:
Pull 1:
Prime Dual Lat Pull: 87.5x8, x8, 62.5x12
T-Bar Row: 61.25x6, 46.25x12
Hammer Strength SA Row: 62.5x8, 42.5x12
Prime Seated Row: 75x8, 50x12
Rear Delt Fly: 47x9, 33x14
Prime Preacher Curl: 31x8, x8, 21x12
Incline DB Curl: 12.5x9, 9x12
Great session overall everything overloaded. Again all slow and steady but got a wicked pump this morning. Slightly earlier session, I did feel a tad bit weaker compared to my normal training time but nothing major.
Sides:
No sides to report as of yet. Sleep was meh last night but I’m gonna put that down to the warm weather and me generally running hot. I got to sleep no problem with ac but I had it set to turn off during the night and I reckon that woke me in the morning.
@BigCheese2000 limited sides is good, i hope you throw in some cardarine with the tren manFasted Weight: 84.6
Sleep: 5 hours
Rest day:
I’m gonna assume the tren is really doing its thing now but mega hard to get some sleep last night. Body temp is up a bit too and the weather is generally warmer here which I struggle with im used to lovely Irish cold
Cycle Update:
Primo is in boys.
350 test
400 primo
400 mast
100 tren
Pushing dht up a small bit higher because I’ve interacted quite well so far. Test will be down the slightest bit just to manage load overall. 100mg tren in there as a bit of a kick especially on a minicut retaining performance and helping keep the flatness at bay.
Sides:
Limited sides still. Sleep has taken a bit of a knock but expected on tren tbf. Have ample time during the day to get a nap in and recharge. Heat has gone up a lot here too so another factor as my body reacts a bit funny in regards to appetite and heat management as it is
100% bro just had a bad night here or there! Generally im pretty good sleep wise but on the nights I’ve struggled im gonna put it down to temps being higher@BigCheese2000 no sides is good, and training is steady but need more sleep![]()
wide back AMAZING look I can see you getting tighter manFasted Weight: 84
Sleep: 9 hours
Well needed rest last night and catch up on sleep. Feeling good overall.
Training:
Density Day:
Mag Grip Pulldown: 65x9, 45x13
Stiff leg deadlift: 140x8, 110x13 (3 second eccentric)
Prime Seated Row: 60x 10, 40x14
Prime Extreme Row: 65 p/s x 9, x8
Leg Press: 120 p/s x 16, x14 +Double Drop Set
Rear Delt fly: 50x10, x10
Slightly different training. I’m on holidays for a week and tbh I just wanted to have a bit of fun with my last 2 sessions before I head off. Tomorrow will be push and arms. Had such a sick time today. Some familiar movements and some new as well.
Sides:
Nothing negative as of yet. Still waiting I suppose but im thinking im fineprimo has gone in and shots are incredibly smooth @DofRandD. Happy enough to crack on until end of cycle and will share a collage of first check in vs last before moving over to a sports trt maybe 150 test and 100 primo.
Calm down brother your getting to bigFasted Weight: 83.8
Sleep: 8 hours
Training:
Chest+Arms+ laterals
Pec Dec x2
Prime Pin Flat x2
Hammer Incline x2
Incline Cable Fly x3
Cuff laterals x3
Tri Push x3
Tri Extension x2
Didn’t track training today. Just went in and got a big pump. Did some drop sets and rest pause just had some fun with it honestly. Was a great session and great pump and sends me off on holidays nicely. Did some movements I enjoy and did overload movements I’d previously done.
Sides:
No negative sides to report as of yet. Enjoying the extra vascularity having shedded a few kilos. All movements are flying. Will be doing some training over the course of holidays but it will be some light and pump sessions don’t wanna batter myself on a holiday
Nice updates, and looking goodFasted Weight: 83.8
Sleep: 8 hours
Training:
Chest+Arms+ laterals
Pec Dec x2
Prime Pin Flat x2
Hammer Incline x2
Incline Cable Fly x3
Cuff laterals x3
Tri Push x3
Tri Extension x2
Didn’t track training today. Just went in and got a big pump. Did some drop sets and rest pause just had some fun with it honestly. Was a great session and great pump and sends me off on holidays nicely. Did some movements I enjoy and did overload movements I’d previously done.
Sides:
No negative sides to report as of yet. Enjoying the extra vascularity having shedded a few kilos. All movements are flying. Will be doing some training over the course of holidays but it will be some light and pump sessions don’t wanna batter myself on a holiday
Might be no negatives at allFasted Weight: 84
Sleep: 9 hours
Well needed rest last night and catch up on sleep. Feeling good overall.
Training:
Density Day:
Mag Grip Pulldown: 65x9, 45x13
Stiff leg deadlift: 140x8, 110x13 (3 second eccentric)
Prime Seated Row: 60x 10, 40x14
Prime Extreme Row: 65 p/s x 9, x8
Leg Press: 120 p/s x 16, x14 +Double Drop Set
Rear Delt fly: 50x10, x10
Slightly different training. I’m on holidays for a week and tbh I just wanted to have a bit of fun with my last 2 sessions before I head off. Tomorrow will be push and arms. Had such a sick time today. Some familiar movements and some new as well.
Sides:
Nothing negative as of yet. Still waiting I suppose but im thinking im fineprimo has gone in and shots are incredibly smooth @DofRandD. Happy enough to crack on until end of cycle and will share a collage of first check in vs last before moving over to a sports trt maybe 150 test and 100 primo.
Enjoy the holiday bro!Just on a break for a few days. Few days holiday in Bali. Still training but doing some fun pump sessions and not tracking. Been a tough year in many regards so this is a chance just to destress and deload into a very productive growth period after a small mini cut. Regular updates will come in end of week again![]()
any pics of the holiday? share with EVO family broJust on a break for a few days. Few days holiday in Bali. Still training but doing some fun pump sessions and not tracking. Been a tough year in many regards so this is a chance just to destress and deload into a very productive growth period after a small mini cut. Regular updates will come in end of week again![]()
beautiful place manDensity day today:
Lat Pull x 2
Ham Curl x 2
Stiff leg x 2
T-bar x 2
Rear Delt Fly x2
Hack Squat x 2
Leg Extension x2
Not tracked again but had a great time and happy with numbers. Nice on holiday to get a pump in or else I will mentally go nutsFew photos included below of the trip and sunburn
Plenty of aloe put on!gotta be careful of that sun I would put some aloe on that sunburn
you don't want to end up with skin cancer
Lady Boys good at the aloe... haha, good pics though bro and still killing it over therePlenty of aloe put on!
Appreciate it big man looking forward to catching up on you and the boys logging I missed over the last weekLady Boys good at the aloe... haha, good pics though bro and still killing it over there
Lady Boys good at the aloe... haha, good pics though bro and still killing it over therePlenty of aloe put on!
Mannnn everybody all on the GH, makes me think I'm missing out hereTraining:
Push and Arms:
No tracking just a juicy pump and trying some new machines! Happy enough numbers wise with that.
Nutrition:
I would be lying if I said I tracked it any bit. Keeping it raw and honest. I’ve had a few drinks the last few days and I’ve enjoyed myself. It’s a first anniversary holiday with my girlfriend and the goal was to spend as much quality time together as possible and both enjoy going off plan. Didn’t end up getting wasted or smashed but defo tried some fruity drinks that I won’t tell the boys about
Sides:
Did all my regular shots up to last Saturday so a week off shots. Still negative sides free and happy with everything overall! Been nice taking a few days off pins but this Saturday we go back on the wagon hard.
Gh Introduced:
@BigBoyLabs has kindly sponsored gh and some pens for methey have arrived at my place and are currently in the fridge waiting to be consumed once I’m back Saturday
delivery and comms were great and he’s a good bloke you can crack a joke with. Excited to log my experience and with each training day I will provide a gh specific update based on some metrics others quote when talking about their gh runs
Still looking good brother, glad u enjoyed ya holiday tooFinal pump pic of holidays before travel tomorrow. Gh will go into tomorrow night along with my other shots.
Obviously looking a bit washed having had some fun and not tracked food but happy enough starting point to kick on and milk every inch remaining of the cycle.
@BigCheese2000 Bali is the best!Density day today:
Lat Pull x 2
Ham Curl x 2
Stiff leg x 2
T-bar x 2
Rear Delt Fly x2
Hack Squat x 2
Leg Extension x2
Not tracked again but had a great time and happy with numbers. Nice on holiday to get a pump in or else I will mentally go nutsFew photos included below of the trip and sunburn
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