First time round - what’s your thoughts

[nixon107]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

@nixon107 welcome to the EVO family nice test and retatrutide base and we can add to it but to do that we need to learn more about you. It's hard to guess what you should or shouldn't do without seeing your final log journal. Please help us understand you by starting your TRT test log journal with your diet training cardio sleep and history in a NEW thread and we can guide you into a blast and more. It will take 15min to start and 5min/week to update easy

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone retatrutide cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

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[RickRock]

Masteron really shines when you are lean, and ypu are far from that right now. Anavar is a solid choice but honestly sarms fot your goals a lot better and the sides are slim to minimal. RAD140, Gw, and SR9009 all make perfect sense right here. Check out umbrella labs

 

[stevesmi]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

why is sourcing not possible? what country are you in?
there are sources on here that cover the planet
@nixon107

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

EQ a good options - will keep E2 down and can be used to bulk or cut.
Masteron and Anavar prob best kept till BF is in the low teens

 

[nixon107]

why is sourcing not possible? what country are you in?
there are sources on here that cover the planet
@nixon107

I’m in Aus and there’s currently no trusted sources selling it locally.

 

[nixon107]

EQ a good options - will keep E2 down and can be used to bulk or cut.
Masteron and Anavar prob best kept till BF is in the low teens

Cheers for your input brother

 

[nixon107]

@nixon107 welcome to the EVO family nice test and retatrutide base and we can add to it but to do that we need to learn more about you. It's hard to guess what you should or shouldn't do without seeing your final log journal. Please help us understand you by starting your TRT test log journal with your diet training cardio sleep and history in a NEW thread and we can guide you into a blast and more. It will take 15min to start and 5min/week to update easy

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone retatrutide cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
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Thanks will look into getting this together

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Plenty of trusted sources with the current approved vendors - but its just that Primo and Mast are at a shortage

 

[nixon107]

Plenty of trusted sources with the current approved vendors - but its just that Primo and Mast are at a shortage

Yep, thanks for clarifying

 

[BodyMonster34]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

@nixon107 bro like masteron and EQ is aight
my suggestion is tren from geneza pharma. they got it at napsgear

 

[stevesmi]

I’m in Aus and there’s currently no trusted sources selling it locally.

there are shortages all over. it will be back at some point

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

go the EQ - I kinda like the long esters - currently using deca and 5 weeks in I like how it sneaks up on you and suddenly you are doing PB's and putting on the weight.

 

[Mobster]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

No. That'd be 6 months

 

[nixon107]

No. That'd be 6 months

And? Where have I said I’m starting tomorrow? I have an end goal in 20 weeks and was seeking general advice. Not what should I run for 20 weeks

 

[2Thick]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

EQ and anavar is close to what primo is
there is a shortage of primo all over. i tried getting it myself recently and everyone is out of stock it seems

@nixon107

 

[ceo]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

@nixon107 bros anavar, masteron and EQ are all good options
i would pick 1 between var or masteron. just 1 dht

 

[Ulter]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

there are a gap where barely anyone used primo
i think there are plenty of good options aside from it
EQ is good. but also anavar would be my choice for you
@nixon107

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hey legends,

Looking for some guidance as I plan the next phase of my cycle. I’ve been running Test E (250mg/week split) and Retatrutide (2.5mg/week) and the results have been solid. I’m 100kg 6”3 and approx 20% bf. I fully appreciate the bf needs to be lower to maximise results, and that is my intention before commencing the next phase.

My end goal is aesthetic – lean, muscular, and full by Christmas. I want to stay on cycle through that period and then cruise over summer.

I originally planned to introduce Primo, but sourcing anything legit has been near impossible. Bloods are due again in 3 weeks, and another body scan in 5, so I’ll have fresh data to work with soon.

Given that Primo’s off the table for now, what would you recommend as a solid alternative to pair with my current stack? Ideally something:

• Mild/moderate on sides (especially oestrogen)
• Good for hardening, recomp, or at least supporting lean mass retention
• Won’t destroy my lipids or make me feel like death

I’ve got Anavar, Masteron, EQ on my radar but open to any solid suggestions. Would love to hear what’s worked for others in a similar phase and goal.

Appreciate the input! Keen to dial this in and make the most of the next 20 weeks.

@nixon107 EQ, masteron and anavar are good ones
primo you can go without
a lot of people never use it and do quite well
We always want what we can't have.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Using primobolan and using masteron i actually favor masteron over primobolan and i love primo