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Has anyone used UGL OZ's 10ml gear vials longer than 28day's, if so how long past this have you used them? Cheer's for any replies.
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Oils will last years mate.They will likely crash sitting in a fridge for ages but store in a dark place room temp and you should be just fine.UGL oils are great,Sparta or Platinum is both good and AJ is a top bloke
Are you talking about sealed or punctured? I was asking about expiry after the vials have been punctured.
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Both ways,the chance on air getting inside there is very slim.I wouldnt worry,if the oil looks clear inside there you should be fine.If you bought it off someone or got it like that id chuck it in the bin.Dont risk it if your not the one that opned the vial
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@SONNY CROCKETT moved your thread to EVO Aussie sub!yes you can use the vials past 28 days easy, UGL OZ has high quality so no issues @UGL OZ
can you share your cycle plan please?
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Fine, if stored in dark cool place. Just give the stopper and good alcohol wipewelcome to the EVO family
yes you can use the vials past 28 days easy, UGL OZ has high quality so no issues @UGL OZ
can you share your cycle plan please?
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Cheer's everyone for the replies, I appreciate it. Full sanitary precautions have been taken and it's stored properly.
Full cycle plan is 250mg of Testosterone Enanthate, 200mg of Nandrolone Decanoate and I am going to add some Tren Acetate in at a very low amount just to see how I react to it. I did start at 500mg of test e but I decided to cut back when I added the deca in.
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yes you can use the vials past 28 days easy, UGL OZ has high quality so no issues @UGL OZ
can you share your cycle plan please?
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Bro 28 days is nothing at all. Your plan to run 250mg test a week would mean that vial gonna be going for at least 9 weeks minimum just to finish it lol.
Just trying to be as safe as I can, bit of paranoia as well as this is the first time I have done steroids.
Of course brother
sorry if i came across the wrong way, it wasnt my intentions at all 
Hey you definitely would rather be cautious than careless in this game bro for sure.
Mate did'nt come across the wrong way at all, no need to bloody apoligise.Of course brother
Hey you definitely would rather be cautious than careless in this game bro for sure.
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Cycle plan looks mild enough but without a proper log we can’t really help, we’d just be guessing. @SONNY CROCKETT
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Yeah bro - as its said TRT at 125mg a week will only use 1ml a week so over 2 months.
You're all good bro. On trt a vial lasts me 20 weeks.
Just a FYI to minimise sides and figure out what your body reacts to I'd suggest test and adding 1 compound in at a time. Also have on hand some stuff to help with sides if needed.
Also fast esters instead of slow Acetate etc
I have all that is needed in case of side's ai's etc. I started with low dose of test just to see if I had problem's, then added a low dose of deca, again just in case. Cheer's.
First time doing steroids and going for tren?
You’re in for a wild ride
You’re in for a wild ride
Figured I may as well give it a crack. Been on test e for 5 week's now and I feel no different, wondering when that's going to change.
Ok bro, I don’t mean to sound rude but I think you should slow down.
Test Enanthate is a long ester, so it take 4-6 weeks to build up in your system. Did you get your bloodwork done before ton started to get your baseline levels?
Deca has an even longer half life, and can take the same or longer time to build up an “feel”
You should be getting your bloodwork done before you start your enhanced journey and then every 4 weeks to see how you are responding.
Also, tren and deca are both 19-nor based compounds. You need to monitor your prolactin levels if you plan to run two at the same time.
I think maybe you should take a step back. You don’t take steroids and immediately “feel” different. It’s a slow build up (just like being natty).
Personally, I would stay on 250 test for 8 weeks solo, with bloods every 4 weeks so you know your hormone levels (total test, free test and estrogren minimum).
Then, after that, you can maybe add in second compound, like equipoise or deca.
But again, those take time to build up in your system.
The enhanced road is a long one, it’s not 8-12 weeks of life changing gains, it’s a lifetime commitment.
Have you had any strength increases? Any change in vascularity? Odd question but even morning wood?
Bro if you're in a rush to feel something run test p or sus! Juicing is a long game bro
I had my blood's done before I started so I would know what my base level's were. I did read that some people on trt don't notice any for up to 6 month's. I have had no change in strength, no vascularity change's. Morning wood has never been a problem ever since I was a teenager, so I can't use that as a gauge. Next blood's wee/are planned to be done at the 8 week mark, tren is not coming to the party before that. This way I know if the deca I introduced has started to mess with my prolactin. Deca was added for the joint properties, I wanted to see if it would help.
I ran enanthate so I would'nt have to inject so many time's. I did'nt want to make a mess of myself with a bunch of hole's. I did think about test p before I started.
Npp is a nicer compound I found personally.
You can trust fattie he's a tren addict
Yeah npp is the short ester for deca.
I found it much nicer especially with the mental sides then deca.
also ran npp quite high with no sides and deca at 200 gave me sides.
Cheer's. May I ask what side effect's you had with it?
Sure.
Mood was fucked.
Depressed.
Had to take stuff to stop gyno.
Ance.
But with npp I had no issues.
Thank's for the head's up mate, appreciate it.
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This serious negative metal side effect of NPP is not discussed enough imo @coolguy77711 I've seen this many times in the EVO family and with my clients as well.
Npp was fine but deca definitely felt depressed.
I'm just being truthful and I think that's important especially for people that haven't tried these compounds
Yeah that's interesting - I have only done deca not NPP and had no sides like acne, depression or gyno. In fact I have done a deca cycle twice
and feel amazing on it!
But bro - don't use tren on your first cycle thats nuts. And expecting to feel a difference after 5 weeks on Test E is impatient.
I always like the idea of
1st cycle - test only
2nd - test and an oral (var or dbol depending on what you are going for)
3rd - use 2 oils test + mast (if you have low BF), T+deca, T+primo (but mast and primo are hard to get now)
4th - 2 oils + oral
After these (probably take a couple of years if you have 12-16w cycles and appropriate time off) maybe then try some tren ace for 6 weeks of your cycle
Body building is a long game if you try and sprint you will lose all your gains as soon as you come off cycle.
and feel amazing on it!
But bro - don't use tren on your first cycle thats nuts. And expecting to feel a difference after 5 weeks on Test E is impatient.
I always like the idea of
1st cycle - test only
2nd - test and an oral (var or dbol depending on what you are going for)
3rd - use 2 oils test + mast (if you have low BF), T+deca, T+primo (but mast and primo are hard to get now)
4th - 2 oils + oral
After these (probably take a couple of years if you have 12-16w cycles and appropriate time off) maybe then try some tren ace for 6 weeks of your cycle
Body building is a long game if you try and sprint you will lose all your gains as soon as you come off cycle.
You dont need tren right now bro but its your choice at the end of the day.
Had only used 200mg myself alongside other stuff but defo noticed joints felt fantastic despite rapid strength increases. Would almost keep it in there along any cycle with how good the joints were. Have 0 experience outside of that but something I definitely noticed
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this is a situation with 80/20 or 70/30, like everything with chemistry and bodybuilding
for 70-80% of the guys they fine, 20-30% have mental sides from npp/deca
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NPP was great for me, felt really good on it, I have heard alot of bad storys however, I kept a close eye on prolactin though
Maybe reverse those figures?
Are polls an option on EVO for things like this ?
I personally avoid all 19-nors
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Equipoise is bae
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I found 70-80% do fine with most situations.
Guess like any drugs whether pharmaceutical or recreational there’s such a broad variety of reactions and interactions, can’t really say anything across the board
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For sure, you'll never know 100% with drugs
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Ive used vials that are open which have been stored for a year ( have to store them in air tight container keep in a cool place out of sun) swap tops prior to use gtg!
As you know sometimes we just switch up the cycle and think of using other stuff or come off. The above works
As you know sometimes we just switch up the cycle and think of using other stuff or come off. The above works
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Thats the one brother research 0r ask thats what the community is here for no harm in asking we were all in the same position at one stage of our life's! Chur!
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which brand did you use?Ive used vials that are open which have been stored for a year ( have to store them in air tight container keep in a cool place out of sun) swap tops prior to use gtg!
As you know sometimes we just switch up the cycle and think of using other stuff or come off. The above works
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Used a lot around the globe also here in ozz my go to oil was gso oil though
You're correct that a punctured multi-use vial is good for 28 days via hospital safety standards.
This idiot -me- has not been following this best practice for over 24 years, but when doing TRT I try and get 1ml or 2ml vials instead of 10ml when possible as i draw 2x weekly.
~Good question since most don't seem to know this.
This idiot -me- has not been following this best practice for over 24 years, but when doing TRT I try and get 1ml or 2ml vials instead of 10ml when possible as i draw 2x weekly.
~Good question since most don't seem to know this.
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this is an old thread @midnightSun you on TRT?
Based on my own usage (1x a week) it's 10 weeks at a 1ml a week. And, as has been said, most decent products are good for YEARS never mind 28 days
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Nah dude, vial is ruined, send it to me and ill dispose of it safey for you
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