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Sorry about going missing on you all. My Stepfather has had major complications during a surgery, and is fighting to pull through it at the moment. Training and diet have remained the same as always. Things are going ok in that area. I should be back online shortly. Everything extra is just on the back burner for now. Thanks guys
Sorry to hear about your stepdad, God bless himSorry about going missing on you all. My Stepfather has had major complications during a surgery, and is fighting to pull through it at the moment. Training and diet have remained the same as always. Things are going ok in that area. I should be back online shortly. Everything extra is just on the back burner for now. Thanks guys
best EVO family wishes to him and you
Hi guys. I did end up losing my stepdad sayurday morning. He was a man that was extremely good to me from the time I was 3 years old, and I like to think I've learned as much from him as i could. So I've not been on here or anything else much as you can imagine.
Meals have remained the same other than a couple of things, again as I'm sure you can imagine. Bottle of jimbeam Saturday night to name one. Still recomping well. Training has been a little hit and miss, but still like every second day. Just skipping legs a bit. I figure the bigger upper body workouts with cardio takes precedent.
I've been on 20mg prop ed for a week or two. Can safely say it hasn't kept e2 down. My bloods as of last Wednesday came in at 1900 test and 387 e2
from there my trainer implemented 200mg primo and a low dose of tamoxifen. I took it upon myself to take 20mg per day and also 37.5mg aromasin over four days, and would you believe it, crashed my e2. Going to stick the 20mg ed prop, and 200mg weekly primo now and see how we go. Just hoping it levels me out because I'm not much good to my family like this at the moment.
Thanks guys, I'll get back into it in the near future.
Meals have remained the same other than a couple of things, again as I'm sure you can imagine. Bottle of jimbeam Saturday night to name one. Still recomping well. Training has been a little hit and miss, but still like every second day. Just skipping legs a bit. I figure the bigger upper body workouts with cardio takes precedent.
I've been on 20mg prop ed for a week or two. Can safely say it hasn't kept e2 down. My bloods as of last Wednesday came in at 1900 test and 387 e2
from there my trainer implemented 200mg primo and a low dose of tamoxifen. I took it upon myself to take 20mg per day and also 37.5mg aromasin over four days, and would you believe it, crashed my e2. Going to stick the 20mg ed prop, and 200mg weekly primo now and see how we go. Just hoping it levels me out because I'm not much good to my family like this at the moment.Thanks guys, I'll get back into it in the near future.
sorry to hear this @chop09333 he is in a better place RIPHi guys. I did end up losing my stepdad sayurday morning. He was a man that was extremely good to me from the time I was 3 years old, and I like to think I've learned as much from him as i could. So I've not been on here or anything else much as you can imagine.
Meals have remained the same other than a couple of things, again as I'm sure you can imagine. Bottle of jimbeam Saturday night to name one. Still recomping well. Training has been a little hit and miss, but still like every second day. Just skipping legs a bit. I figure the bigger upper body workouts with cardio takes precedent.
I've been on 20mg prop ed for a week or two. Can safely say it hasn't kept e2 down. My bloods as of last Wednesday came in at 1900 test and 387 e2
Thanks guys, I'll get back into it in the near future.
and I used to drink jim beam with mountain dew so I know the feeling its a real downer for me
Thanks bro. I don't really drink anymore, but it was what I needed at the time.
Yup in hard times thats what happened to me I got back on the bottle but dry and sober for some time now trying to stay clean man
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Thanks brother, much appreciatedYup in hard times thats what happened to me I got back on the bottle but dry and sober for some time now trying to stay clean man
EVO family here to support you in hard and good times always
Sorry for your loss bro. Take care of yourself and let the gym be your stress reliever.
bro dayum that bad news
sorry RIP step dad
sorry RIP step dad
sorry for the loss and the bad news
make sure you get back on the horse it will get better day by day
make sure you get back on the horse it will get better day by day
Fuck dude.Hi guys. I did end up losing my stepdad sayurday morning. He was a man that was extremely good to me from the time I was 3 years old, and I like to think I've learned as much from him as i could. So I've not been on here or anything else much as you can imagine.
Meals have remained the same other than a couple of things, again as I'm sure you can imagine. Bottle of jimbeam Saturday night to name one. Still recomping well. Training has been a little hit and miss, but still like every second day. Just skipping legs a bit. I figure the bigger upper body workouts with cardio takes precedent.
I've been on 20mg prop ed for a week or two. Can safely say it hasn't kept e2 down. My bloods as of last Wednesday came in at 1900 test and 387 e2
Thanks guys, I'll get back into it in the near future.
So sorry for your loss brother.
Have left the dates on there for reference. Bouncing back now and nips are in check for the first time in ages. A little e2 crash probably wasn't a bad thing considering it was at 387 and my nips and gyno were on fire. Now I can bounce back a little before the primo reaches full blood saturation. I'm really feeling good about the new plan. Seems I'm just very reactive to everything. The fact that i get 1900 test out of 140mg per week is pretty cool though.
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@chop09333 the non american dates confuse me a bit lol
but I see 22/11 and 25/11 are those back to back blood work? correct?
seems correct but dont want to misunderstand as this is crucial of an issue
One set was taken on the 21st and the other on the 26th bro. Primo and a one off 25mg aromasin was implemented on the 22nd. The aromasin was my idea, and it was a bad one. It crashed my e2 around the 25th. I'm bouncing back now though. Not too quickly like usual though. Usually I can go from crashed e2 to high e2 in like 5 days
now its clear, it means you need around 5mgs aromasin 2x/week maxOne set was taken on the 21st and the other on the 26th bro. Primo and a one off 25mg aromasin was implemented on the 22nd. The aromasin was my idea, and it was a bad one. It crashed my e2 around the 25th. I'm bouncing back now though. Not too quickly like usual though. Usually I can go from crashed e2 to high e2 in like 5 days
5mgs mon/ 5mgs thur @chop09333
good you tested it man
its great to know your aromasin workingand I can safely say from your blood work that primobolan is NOT an anti estrogen like aromasin, how much primo were you using?
@AE1079 check above, see primobolan did nothing for his estrogen or very light, thats my experience with many guys I train too
10-20% difference with primo vs 80% with aromasin or Ais, so primo not safe as a balancer for most imo
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ionate-proviron-cycle-log.100518/post-1650130
im aware of the situation bro. primo is dose dependent, i start low and increase when needed. @chop09333 has a unique situation, balancing everything can be tricky. I have my methods and my beliefs. I think long term and overall health in mind too.now its clear, it means you need around 5mgs aromasin 2x/week max
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good you tested it man
and I can safely say from your blood work that primobolan is NOT an anti estrogen like aromasin, how much primo were you using?
@AE1079 check above, see primobolan did nothing for his estrogen or very light, thats my experience with many guys I train too
10-20% difference with primo vs 80% with aromasin or Ais, so primo not safe as a balancer for most imo
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ionate-proviron-cycle-log.100518/post-1650130
Primo isnt meant to be a strong AI, that’s not what it’s designed for, however it has the properties of a mild suicide inhibitor + anabolic properties. I would much rather have my clients use more benign compounds and hit things at different angles then blasting AIs and end up having destroyed lipids and cholesterol down the line. I don’t like to use AIs bro as they are deleterious to health, sure they lower E2 and clear E2 symptoms, but long term mate it’s not a sustainable solution. I like sustainability, predictable outcomes. That’s my methods, I believe in my methods, you don’t have too. So let’s stick to that brother
We are trying to find a mid point of healthy E2. He crashes E2 hard on very little AI dose, where he does not like to feel those symptoms, nor does he want high E2 either. So, in this instance he’s on a balancing regime where we are finding a midpoint and that’s for him to feel his best. He is straight up and will tell me if he doesn’t agree with something or not. Everyone is different @Eddie Haskell which I’m sure you agree with. But im
Not going to veer of my beliefs and methods just because you think AIs are better. They are horrible for you, they have a place in some instances, but once you get off mate, what happens? Sustainable outcomes, not bandaids. Think outside the square and come in with solutions long term.
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I agree with everything you said @AE1079 , spoken like a proim aware of the situation bro. primo is dose dependent, i start low and increase when needed. @chop09333 has a unique situation, balancing everything can be tricky. I have my methods and my beliefs. I think long term and overall health in mind too.
Primo isnt meant to be a strong AI, that’s not what it’s designed for, however it has the properties of a mild suicide inhibitor + anabolic properties. I would much rather have my clients use more benign compounds and hit things at different angles then blasting AIs and end up having destroyed lipids and cholesterol down the line. I don’t like to use AIs bro as they are deleterious to health, sure they lower E2 and clear E2 symptoms, but long term mate it’s not a sustainable solution. I like sustainability, predictable outcomes. That’s my methods, I believe in my methods, you don’t have too. So let’s stick to that brother
We are trying to find a mid point of healthy E2. He crashes E2 hard on very little AI dose, where he does not like to feel those symptoms, nor does he want high E2 either. So, in this instance he’s on a balancing regime where we are finding a midpoint and that’s for him to feel his best. He is straight up and will tell me if he doesn’t agree with something or not. Everyone is different @Eddie Haskell which I’m sure you agree with. But im
Not going to veer of my beliefs and methods just because you think AIs are better. They are horrible for you, they have a place in some instances, but once you get off mate, what happens? Sustainable outcomes, not bandaids. Think outside the square and come in with solutions long term.
My take was I’ve seen too many posts lately, not specifically from you, where “don’t use Ai and use x (fill in primobolan or masteron)” was told to users
And yes its dose dependent but I think primobolan is good to use as a SERM-like anti E along with lower Ai doses aromasin or arimidex but dex seems to have other issues so I prefer aromasin
To answer your question on how much primo, primo wasn't started til the day after that first set of bloods with the high e2 man. I think that some confusion may lie there. I started the 200mg primo and overdid the aromasin the day after the bloods were taken, which I do have a bit of a habbit of doing, because the nips and gyno and whatnot.now its clear, it means you need around 5mgs aromasin 2x/week max
5mgs mon/ 5mgs thur @chop09333
good you tested it man
and I can safely say from your blood work that primobolan is NOT an anti estrogen like aromasin, how much primo were you using?
@AE1079 check above, see primobolan did nothing for his estrogen or very light, thats my experience with many guys I train too
10-20% difference with primo vs 80% with aromasin or Ais, so primo not safe as a balancer for most imo
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ionate-proviron-cycle-log.100518/post-1650130
The aromasin crashed me, but im bouncing back now. However I'm bouncing back slowly which is a good thing, because it tells me the primo is working. If not for the primo I can have high e2 back again in a matter of days, and that's no exaggeration.
I think we're on the right track here, but that's of course not certain, and bloods in the near future will say for sure. That's what I'll be doing for right now, but no doubt some changes will be needed. I'm always happy to hear your opinions aswell bro, I do get what your saying too.
Interesting though seems aromasin crashed estrogen but we haven’t seen solo primo+test results without aromasin right? Just to clarify this
And overdoing is what we do man
we are bodybuilders
No we actually haven't. That's what we should have seen, but I chose to smash the aromasin, because I just wanted it to knock it down. It wasn't ideal, but it gives me a good starting point now. I can get bloods weekly for a little bit and find the balance.Interesting though seems aromasin crashed estrogen but we haven’t seen solo primo+test results without aromasin right? Just to clarify this
And overdoing is what we do man
I agree with you, a lot of people do the mast and primo instead of an AI. It’s certainly a preference of mine and I understand why and when to do it. Can’t speak for others, they could look at my posts and go “I’m going to do that” and start recommending that as a solution. But like you are eluding too, it’s not for all situations, and AIs have a place in situations too. No argument here bro. Also agree with aromasin being a preferred AI then dex. Binds irreversibly with a steroidal backbone, and competes with with testosterone and androstenedione for active site inhibition, hence why we see higher free test too on aromasin and good synergy. I would also to prefer to use aromasin over anything else if needed.
The whole masteron and primo is in the name of harm reduction for enhanced individuals which was initially popularised by victor black ( I took his courses and has some compelling ideas) J3U copied the same thing and took it for his own and now it’s out there as a strategy in the name of harm reduction. I like it, as a bodybuilder, I’ll get up in the morning for a test primo combo anyday over test and a AI !
I guess my main concern is guys walking around with high E2 thinking 100mgs of primobolan is controlling it @AE1079
overall there is a way we should meet in the middle to explain to guys e2 sensitivity and such
Ok, so the log got too much, and I'm not going to say I'll restart, because honestly I just get too busy. I work, train, sleep, go on holiday and repeat. But I'll attach some recent check in photos. Ive come a long way in 12 months, and I have to pass alot of credit onto my coach @AE1079. As anyone who was following my thread would have picked up, not much was coming easy to me, and most compounds still don't really agree with me. We had to work out alot about my weird ass body between us, but got there in the end. Ended up achieving the results in the photos using gh and proviron for 6 months amd then through in 350 test for the last 6 months.
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You look good ripped abs and that side chest is hot with big arms and a wide chest
@chop09333 Staying on GH with proviron then going to 350 test is a good cycle, shout out to @AE1079
If you ever feel like dropping simple updates instead of a full log that’s enough to keep going with the EVO family.
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Thanks broYou look good ripped abs and that side chest is hot with big arms and a wide chest
Staying on GH with proviron then going to 350 test is a good cycle, shout out to @AE1079
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I'll probably do that. I'm on a bit of a maintenance cruise at the moment. Have dropped gh and may or may not lower test. My bloods say all good, so 
. I'm sticking to 4 set meals and a carby shit meal once a day to see what happens, and will eventually clean it up and restart gh. Maybe I'll get some gains out of it, and get to eat some shit food along the way, who knows. Training is staying the same. Chest/shoulders, back, legs, arms, chest/shoulders, two days off. A really enjoyable and effective split. I'll update how this goes for me.
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do you have some bloods to share? please share @chop09333Thanks bro
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Looking really good there @chop09333, your bloods are pretty tidy too, you have some slightly elevated liver, did you train before getting them done?
Probably bro. Ast and alt are always slightly elevated, but that is a little more than usual. I have a sneaking suspicion it was the bad case of tennis elbow I've had.
Mm probably not from that, definitely worth watching
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geez slabs of muscle mate!
You look great bro! Don't feel pressured that you need to post bigass log updates often. Just current stats and how you're feeling and instead of all your workouts just post where you're lagging or needing help. That's what we're here for. Pics and bloods are always good too, and BF% with goals for the upcoming weeks, etc.
Hi all. Not a whole lot to report here. Still just on a maintenance period. I'm really just chasing some advice on bpc157. I've had persistent tennis elbow for months now that I just can't get over the line with. It almost comes good but I can't quite get it. I'm going to order shogun. Can anyone tell me how much, how often, and how long do I run for? Thanks guys
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depends what happened to the injury? @chop09333 if you want basic dose 500mcg around injury with tb500
I'm honestly not exactly sure what caused it bro. I thought it was dips, but not so sure now. Possibly too many hammer curls. I know with the injury I can't do them. I just avoid doing excersises that I can feel will aggrevate it.
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you get some bpc and tb yet?
No not yet bro. About to order from ugl. 500mcg seems pretty standard. That's once a day? What about tb500 dosage? Also just trying to estimate how long I might need to run it for?
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tb dose 2mgs 2x/week start there
plan for 8 weeks
Roger that, and what about the bpc?
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500mcg/ed
but i'd like to see you update your food too you need more collagen and bone broth
Ok I can do that I think, got any ideas for me? I don't have a trainer these days and I'm no nutritionalist. I'll be looking to get another trainer when I'm ready to go on cycle again.
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we can start with food, what do you eat now? can you track it ? @chop09333
Breakfast
100g banana
200g blueberries
20g almonds
50g iso whey
Meal 2
250g chicken (when raw)
350g jasmine rice
Some low cal flavour
Meal 3
Same as meal 2 with some mixed veggies
After training shake
100g bananas (have only just added this in here for blood pressure reasons. Nothing out of hand, but some bananas can't hurt)
200g blueberries
50g iso whey
10g almond butter
20g almonds
Meal 5 Sheppard's pie
250g lean mince (when raw)
350g mash potato
Mixed veggies
25g lactose free cheese
Low cal gravy
Meal 6
100g cocopops with a splash of lactose free milk
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This is pretty good but i would have an avocado in there and cut 1 meal out @chop09333
So I've recently come down to 250mg test c, from 350mg(two weeks ago)
Obviously I adjusted au to suit, but I felt like I had major high e2 symptoms, so I went to get bloods. I've attached a picture of my typical bloods when on 350mg, which was pretty standard, and also a pic from just yesterday on 250mg.
I better add, in the last two weeks I've also done the following
Dropped dairy completely (I had severe gut issues due to lactose intolerance. Don"t ask me why it took this long to work that out
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Started esomeprazol for intergestion
Started taking b12 complex
Anyone care to take a stab at why on earth my free test would be 1000pmol higher? E2 was just fine by the way. Wtf is going on
Obviously I adjusted au to suit, but I felt like I had major high e2 symptoms, so I went to get bloods. I've attached a picture of my typical bloods when on 350mg, which was pretty standard, and also a pic from just yesterday on 250mg.
I better add, in the last two weeks I've also done the following
Dropped dairy completely (I had severe gut issues due to lactose intolerance. Don"t ask me why it took this long to work that out
)Started esomeprazol for intergestion
Started taking b12 complex
Anyone care to take a stab at why on earth my free test would be 1000pmol higher? E2 was just fine by the way. Wtf is going on
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im not sure if im misreading, do you have e2 tests? i see 2026 test but no e2 @chop09333So I've recently come down to 250mg test c, from 350mg(two weeks ago)
Obviously I adjusted au to suit, but I felt like I had major high e2 symptoms, so I went to get bloods. I've attached a picture of my typical bloods when on 350mg, which was pretty standard, and also a pic from just yesterday on 250mg.
I better add, in the last two weeks I've also done the following
Dropped dairy completely (I had severe gut issues due to lactose intolerance. Don"t ask me why it took this long to work that out
Started esomeprazol for intergestion
Started taking b12 complex
Anyone care to take a stab at why on earth my free test would be 1000pmol higher? E2 was just fine by the way. Wtf is going on
E2 was 109 in one amd 114 in the other bro.
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can you post the test and e2 together there is no dates on e2
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It actually is not bad for e2 but the symptoms i have a feeling progesterone prolactin, have you tested them? @chop09333Yeah the way that form is layed out made it hard. That should do it
and you can respond to 100 different too
how about before?
So I've recently come down to 250mg test c, from 350mg(two weeks ago)
Obviously I adjusted au to suit, but I felt like I had major high e2 symptoms, so I went to get bloods. I've attached a picture of my typical bloods when on 350mg, which was pretty standard, and also a pic from just yesterday on 250mg.
I better add, in the last two weeks I've also done the following
Dropped dairy completely (I had severe gut issues due to lactose intolerance. Don"t ask me why it took this long to work that out
Started esomeprazol for intergestion
Started taking b12 complex
Anyone care to take a stab at why on earth my free test would be 1000pmol higher? E2 was just fine by the way. Wtf is going on
In the past progesterone and prolactain have been just fine no matter what has been going on bro. I think what I was feeling was the sudden spike in testosterone plasma levels. It felt like first going on cycle. I just mistook it for high e2. The thing I can't work out is why test would spike two weeks after lowering my test by 100mg. Same vial in both blood results too. I'm not overly fussed about it, but I just wanted to lower test for a bit before running a blast.
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you had emotional issues at the spike? @chop09333
Increased aggression when provoked, and a general pumped up, euphoric type feeling bro. Certainly reminiscent of first going on cycle. I just didn't think a testosterone spike was a possibility considering.
All I can think of is maybe my body is metabolising things differently all of a sudden since dropping lactose. My gut was absolutely horrendous, and I felt drained and exhausted physically and mentally for months. I just couldn't work it out. Just to give you an idea of the weight that's been lifted. Far fetched I know but it's all I got.
All I can think of is maybe my body is metabolising things differently all of a sudden since dropping lactose. My gut was absolutely horrendous, and I felt drained and exhausted physically and mentally for months. I just couldn't work it out. Just to give you an idea of the weight that's been lifted. Far fetched I know but it's all I got.
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Thats more like a test spike not e2
I agree. It's just really fucking weird
I'm trying to come down to a cruiseAnd then there's the fact that e2 is well in range with less ai, all whilst having higher free testosterone. I suppose this isn't a bad thing. My body must be in a good place.
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its normal for hormones to fluctuate dont worryI agree. It's just really fucking weird
And then there's the fact that e2 is well in range with less ai, all whilst having higher free testosterone. I suppose this isn't a bad thing. My body must be in a good place.
Roger. I'll get bloods again in a few weeks if I dont feel it's settled, otherwise I'll wait til march/April when I plan to blast. Something I'll be logging
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I'll be waiting to see training diet tooRoger. I'll get bloods again in a few weeks if I dont feel it's settled, otherwise I'll wait til march/April when I plan to blast. Something I'll be logging
Well speaking of diet. This diet I'm on now that I posted above is what I've been on for quite sometime, and it seems to be maintaining my body fat levels ok. Maybe I'm even very slowly getting leaner if I'm to go by the veins I'm starting to see in my legs. I've thrown in some cardio that I wasn't doing before either. What would you recommend I do between now and my cycle over the next couple of months? I know you said take out a meal. You mean the coconut pops? Should I try to get leaner now orrr?
Cycle will be 500 test, 250 or there abouts primo, and 3iu of growth. For reference all I've run upto date has been 350 test and 2iu of growth.
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you look good in the pics THICK!
@you're talking about this diet?
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have you worked out macros for this? @chop09333
i count 250 protein about 500 carbs maybe 60-70 fat
you should carb cycle this and do a protein boost
Should I be worried about these creatinine and egfr readings? I've noticed creatinine has always sat a little high but now it's out of range on my last two labs. I'll attach pics, including an old one where I'd just hopped on test and it was much lower.
I have recently started ramapril and esomeprazole.
Have lowered test from 350 down to 280 recently.
Any advice would be appreciated. Has me a bit worried this one. Thanks guys
I have recently started ramapril and esomeprazole.
Have lowered test from 350 down to 280 recently.
Any advice would be appreciated. Has me a bit worried this one. Thanks guys
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its hard to say about creatine and alt/ast as you dont share your training or diet often @chop09333
i saw your food 1 time a month+ ago and training a while back
how about supps? also missing
so guess answer is yes thats not good high creatinine is kidney issues and constant alt/ast probably liver issues but is it? or is it diet training issue? hard to say without you updating us
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Hey bro, ACE inhibitor and PPI yeah?
What health supps are you taking?
And daily water intake?
raised creatinine (not creatine) - is generally due to high muscle mass and intense training in an adult
similar with the EGFR.
So in the absence of kidney disease this is normal in an athlete.
Same goes ofr some of the liver values - AST/ALT can be raised and is also normal to see in an athlete in the absence of liver disease
similar with the EGFR.
So in the absence of kidney disease this is normal in an athlete.
Same goes ofr some of the liver values - AST/ALT can be raised and is also normal to see in an athlete in the absence of liver disease
Fair call. Thing is it doesn't change. Atleast not while I've just been maintaining rather than trying to achieve any gains or anything. I'll do my best to give you guys an idea of what's been going on anyway.its hard to say about creatine and alt/ast as you dont share your training or diet often @chop09333
i saw your food 1 time a month+ ago and training a while back
how about supps? also missing
so guess answer is yes thats not good high creatinine is kidney issues and constant alt/ast probably liver issues but is it? or is it diet training issue? hard to say without you updating us
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So about three weeks ago I did stop taking "st johns wort". Something that did help me with stress once, but I really don't need these days. I'll list how this applies to everything that's going on.
Cause high blood pressure. I haven't seen it come down since dropping it unfortunately.
Causes very fast metabolism of aromatase inhibitors, so I found myself taking 18.75mg of aromasin per day at one point. This in itself could be alot of my problems. The drug interaction in the gut causes gut dyobosis and there is studies in Thailand or something showing kidney injury.
I've now found that I need alot less if any AI. I'm going to come down to 200mg test and no AI. Just seems like a smart idea right now. In future I hope to cycle test and primo.
Training 5 day split (I train to failure on at least one set per exercise, sometimes all because I just do)
Chest and shoulders 8-12 rep range
3 x fly machine
3 x chest press machine
3 x cable cross over
3 x cable lateral raises super set 3 x front raises
4 x shoulder press machine
Back (12-15 rep range generally)
4 x pullups or lateral raises
4 x close grip cable rows
3 x bent over dumbbell rows
4 x chest press row machine or close grip pull downs, what ever I'm feeling really.
4 x shrugs (often super setted somewhere)
Legs (12-15 reps always to failure)
4 x prone leg curl
5 x leg press
4 x leg extension
5 x calf raises
I know it's small but my legs are good and I'm sore for a couple of days after
Arms (10-12 reps generally for biceps, 15 for tricep)
3 x Single arm preacher curls
3 x hammer curls
3 x dumbell bicep curls (sometimes a couple more sets between triceps)
5 x triceps cable pushing
5 x standing triceps extension using rope also (all rope at the minute due to recovering tennis elbow) which is going very well by the way.
Chest and shoulders 8-12 rep range
3 x fly machine
3 x chest press machine
3 x cable cross over
4 x shoulder press machine
5 - 7 x cable lateral raises
Cardio
15 mins air bike after most days other than leg day. I'm planning on upping that to half an hour. I've also been putting in half an hour to an hour on one of my two days off training each week.
Diet (is the same other than removed cocopops and I have been snacking on some jerky here and there)
Breakfast
100g banana
200g blueberries
20g almonds
50g iso whey
Meal 2
250g chicken (when raw)
350g jasmine rice
Some low cal flavour
Meal 3
Same as meal 2 with some mixed veggies
After training shake
100g bananas (have only just added this in here for blood pressure reasons. Nothing out of hand, but some bananas can't hurt)
200g blueberries
50g iso whey
10g almond butter
20g almonds
Meal 5 Sheppard's pie
250g lean mince (when raw)
350g mash potato
Mixed veggies
25g lactose free cheese
Low cal gravy
Cheat meal once per week (currently chicken burger from a local food van because they're fucking awesome)
Sups (I'll do another post later with mg. I'm just out of the house at the moment)
Milk thistle
NAC (just started)
Zinc
Magnesium
Valerian
Ashwagandha
Fish oil
D3
B12 complex
Melatonin
Swiss multivitamin
Esomeprazole (suspect for raised creatinine)
5mg ramapril (also a suspect, am changing)
Test - moving down to 200mg per week in daily pins as of today. Have titrated down from 350mg per week over the last four weeks.
Tennis elbow and plantar fasciitis
Bpc - 500mcg per day
Tb500 - 1mg e3d
Blood pressure 140's, sometimes 120's in the morning but it was higher. Still isn't great, but I'm hoping a mix of more cardio, telmisartan, lowered test and stopping the st johns wort will get it down. Also a major suspect for the raised kidney values.
That's everything I can think of guys.
Let's hope that's all it is. Best I just come down to a lower cruise and lower blood pressure and see if it all settles I think.
Hey brother. I mentioned sups in the short novel reply to Lev. And yes that's spot on. However the ramapril will be getting swapped out for telmisartan and the ppi halved.
Daily water intake, fucking heaps. Gallon to gallon and a half in your part of the world.
Maybe I stress too much. It seems that training as hard as I do and with the increased muscle mass I have now compared to older blood tests, it's no surprise my creatinine is higher than than normal. And there's also these labs taken with a different lab today that are completely fine. Either way I probably have nothing to worry about.
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let me ask you this, are you saying every single day the food is 100% same and training 100% same? serious question
@chop09333 ive been doing this for a long time and never saw anyone do same thing day in and day out for months years
If it isn't, it's rare my friendlet me ask you this, are you saying every single day the food is 100% same and training 100% same? serious question
I have no problem admitting when I cheat, but it really is rare. I did try that daily cheat meal bulk thing, and I got nowhere anyway. I'm about to go on holiday for a couple of weeks and I plan on eatikg a fair bit of pan fryed fish and air fryed chips and probably doing a heap of blow if that helps I really am a creature of habit I suppose. I really don't have any other food other than mine and my wifes meal prep in the house.Oh and those meals do have a bunch of low cal flavour packets and some low fat coconut cream.
@LevButlerov food for me has become like brushing my teeth or having a shit. It's just something you do every day. Not to say it won't change when I go on cycle but yeah
@LevButlerov just thought about it. Sometimes, as in 1 or 2 nights a week and other weeks not at all, I night have a steak sandwich. Toasted sourdough, fillet steak, tomato, beetroot, egg, a little real butter and low cal sauce. Macros closely match my Shepard's pie meal with a bit more fat I think.
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you can cheat once in a whileIf it isn't, it's rare my friend
Oh and those meals do have a bunch of low cal flavour packets and some low fat coconut cream.
it boosts the metabolic rate
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thats smart
good approach @chop09333 thats a nice one can you start sharing pics of the food please?
thats smart
thats a nice one can you start sharing pics of the food please?
I'll do that bro. Just to give you an idea of my holiday prep. It'll be the same meal plan with fish and chips if I'm catching or steak sandwiches for tea. Headed on a two week trip along the West Australian coast and hope to bring these freezers back full of fish
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this looks goodI'll do that bro. Just to give you an idea of my holiday prep. It'll be the same meal plan with fish and chips if I'm catching or steak sandwiches for tea. Headed on a two week trip along the West Australian coast and hope to bring these freezers back full of fish
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