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Approved Log Comeback 2026 Test Primo Npp Cycle Log

haldencapital

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It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
 

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It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Welcome back @haldencapital !! Very happy to see you back and putting your health first!
Good first log post to start a new log and I think your pics look good you're starting off at a great spot to put on some lean mass. 300-400mg will be lots, you're correct and let's not go too extreme like we both tend to do. I've learned here on EVO that it's healthy to identify that about ourselves (like you have) and then listen to the wisdom of others to help us keep things in check.

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it.
Same here. It's good you know this about yourself since we can keep this in mind when you're making choices, be sure and check here for honest feedback.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.
I know all about those details bro, even though I've been clean and serene for almost 5 years those memories are still very fresh. Just happy you're back; recovery is freedom!

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on.
Nah you look great bro!

The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle.
This is 100% always true!

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1.
I totally agree. Let's go low and slow especially since your bloodwork shows that is plenty.

Very happy to see this on board. With your liver being taxed from the drinking this will help a lot.
 
Welcome back @haldencapital !! Very happy to see you back and putting your health first!
Good first log post to start a new log and I think your pics look good you're starting off at a great spot to put on some lean mass. 300-400mg will be lots, you're correct and let's not go too extreme like we both tend to do. I've learned here on EVO that it's healthy to identify that about ourselves (like you have) and then listen to the wisdom of others to help us keep things in check.


Same here. It's good you know this about yourself since we can keep this in mind when you're making choices, be sure and check here for honest feedback.


I know all about those details bro, even though I've been clean and serene for almost 5 years those memories are still very fresh. Just happy you're back; recovery is freedom!


Nah you look great bro!


This is 100% always true!


I totally agree. Let's go low and slow especially since your bloodwork shows that is plenty.


Very happy to see this on board. With your liver being taxed from the drinking this will help a lot.

Thanks, @HarleyGuy. I’m glad to be back and in a much better head space. The dark moments I've faced over the last two years starting with the divorve really forced me to confront my flaws. Being an extremist can be a superpower in the right context, but I’ve learned it can also be incredibly self-destructive. In the past, I’d just bury my head in the sand, and it cost me. A lot. But the older I get, the more self-aware I become.

I hope you are well and that you are enjoying the long Easter weekend :)
 
Thanks, @HarleyGuy. I’m glad to be back and in a much better head space. The dark moments I've faced over the last two years starting with the divorve really forced me to confront my flaws. Being an extremist can be a superpower in the right context, but I’ve learned it can also be incredibly self-destructive. In the past, I’d just bury my head in the sand, and it cost me. A lot. But the older I get, the more self-aware I become.

I hope you are well and that you are enjoying the long Easter weekend :)
This is awesome bro I'm happy you're seeing the light and for guys like us it does take time it took me until I was 45 or so to wake up to who and what was and had been. I openly say on here I am a member of AA and have almost 5 years clean and serene so if you're looking for any support in staying sober I've sponsored others on here but also talk with members too about addiction and sobriety. DM me anytime bro.

Easter has been amazing I'm getting caught up today on EVO as I've been in Family Power mode and it's been wonderful!
 
Based on your goals i would not add primo or npp. 400mg of testosterone solo will out perform test and primo combined at 400mg total.

Back in my early days I made my best gains on Testosterone only cycles.

For pct I would not use Nolvadex. I would use clomid only

@jerseyshoremuscles I totally agree with the test-only cycle. The issue is that my first cycle proved I’m a heavy aromatizer. My E2 hit 70 pg/mL on just 170 mg a week. Unless I want to lean heavily on an AI, I just don’t see how I could manage double that dose without things getting out of control. If it wasn't for this i would go test only..
 
I have never used Aromasin. I have a ton of experience with Anastrozole.

Consider
Hgh 3iu pm empty stomach right before bed
Testosterone cyp 200mg mon & 200mg thrusday
Anastrozole .25mg Monday and .25mg Thursday

When you stack testosterone with Primobolan, the Primo does not reduce how much testosterone converts to estrogen. It doesn’t inhibit Aromatase, so your Estradiol (E2) production from testosterone stays essentially the same.
What can happen is a slight indirect effect: since Primo adds non-aromatizing anabolic activity, your overall androgen-to-estrogen ratio shifts, which can make estrogen-related effects feel less pronounced. But actual E2 levels usually aren’t significantly lowered.
Bottom line: Primo is estrogen-neutral, not an estrogen reducer—testosterone will still aromatize as usual.

Masteron still does NOT reduce how much testosterone converts via Aromatase, so actual Estradiol (E2) production remains largely the same.
However, unlike Primo, Masteron has a mild anti-estrogenic effect at the receptor level, meaning it can reduce estrogenic symptoms (like water retention or slight gyno sensitivity) and give a drier look, even if E2 levels aren’t significantly lowered on bloodwork.
Bottom line: testosterone still aromatizes the same, but Masteron can make estrogen feel lower and more controlled compared to Primo.
 
I have never used Aromasin. I have a ton of experience with Anastrozole.

Consider
Hgh 3iu pm empty stomach right before bed
Testosterone cyp 200mg mon & 200mg thrusday
Anastrozole .25mg Monday and .25mg Thursday

When you stack testosterone with Primobolan, the Primo does not reduce how much testosterone converts to estrogen. It doesn’t inhibit Aromatase, so your Estradiol (E2) production from testosterone stays essentially the same.
What can happen is a slight indirect effect: since Primo adds non-aromatizing anabolic activity, your overall androgen-to-estrogen ratio shifts, which can make estrogen-related effects feel less pronounced. But actual E2 levels usually aren’t significantly lowered.
Bottom line: Primo is estrogen-neutral, not an estrogen reducer—testosterone will still aromatize as usual.

Masteron still does NOT reduce how much testosterone converts via Aromatase, so actual Estradiol (E2) production remains largely the same.
However, unlike Primo, Masteron has a mild anti-estrogenic effect at the receptor level, meaning it can reduce estrogenic symptoms (like water retention or slight gyno sensitivity) and give a drier look, even if E2 levels aren’t significantly lowered on bloodwork.
Bottom line: testosterone still aromatizes the same, but Masteron can make estrogen feel lower and more controlled compared to Primo.

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. (y)(y) I really never envisioned having the full anabolic load of 400 mg with testosterone given that my E2 was sky high on 170 mg last year. My optic was that If I run 400 mg of test, my E2 will skyrocket. By running 200mg test and 200mg primo, I keep the total anabolic load at 400 mg while keeping the actual conversion to E2 at a level my body has already shown it can (mostly) handle. Primo does not reduce how much testosterone converts to estrogen, but if I have less testosterone from the 400 mg total, overall the level of conversion should be less.
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
welcome back to the EVO family :D @haldencapital love having you back. I know it's hard when alcohol comes back into play I know the feeling I've been there, its a dark dark place! but I'm happy you're back with the EVO family now we love and support you always no matter what happened :D
you have good shape on the come back, strong and still lean :D

Since mental health is a part of this cycle I suggest you dont use npp.
Go with this cycle
200mgs test/week
100mgs primo/week
hgh 2 IU pre bed
and SLU PP ed small dose


@BeMe @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz
@MarkNV @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay
 
Brother you seemed dialed in now and in great condition. What do you want out of this cycle?
What about EQ to help with E2 instead of primo?
 
Brother you seemed dialed in now and in great condition. What do you want out of this cycle?
What about EQ to help with E2 instead of primo?
Thank you! Main goal is to get back closer to where i left but not so much to the point where I'm too heavy to do my hiking and mountain biking on a regular basis. Getting back to 170 lbs from here would be ideal. 175 lbs at most.

I thought about EQ as it is cheaper than primo but i left it aside due to potential anxiety side-effects, longer half-life and mostly because I would simply get too hungry on it. Speaking from experience, I can't have a limitless appetite while i ride my bike, i would simply eat everything in sight. Mixing aerobic activities and muscle building is very conflicting. It makes it a challenge to control appetite and EQ would probably make it even worse.
 
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welcome back to the EVO family :D @haldencapital love having you back. I know it's hard when alcohol comes back into play I know the feeling I've been there, its a dark dark place! but I'm happy you're back with the EVO family now we love and support you always no matter what happened :D
you have good shape on the come back, strong and still lean :D

Since mental health is a part of this cycle I suggest you dont use npp.
Go with this cycle
200mgs test/week
100mgs primo/week
hgh 2 IU pre bed
and SLU PP ed small dose


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@MarkNV @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Shakey @Eveflorence @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay

@LevButlerov Thank you! The psychological changes and anxiety part was another reason i wanted to avoid the Npp at first :)

I've read about SLU but it is expensive as hell! A typical dose would be 5 mg a week? That is about 120$+CAD per week at least. More expensive than HGH. And how do you reconstitute it? I saw @HarleyGuy saying to not use DMSO or bac water https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...inistration-routes-dosing-and-reviews.109779/
Still very confusing to me....
 
@LevButlerov Thank you! The psychological changes and anxiety part was another reason i wanted to avoid the Npp at first :)
good move :D @haldencapital
I've read about SLU but it is expensive as hell! A typical dose would be 5 mg a week? That is about 120$+CAD per week at least. More expensive than HGH. And how do you reconstitute it? I saw @HarleyGuy saying to not use DMSO or bac water https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...inistration-routes-dosing-and-reviews.109779/
I would start with 5mgs/week and see how you feel but you can start with easy cardarine before that if you have a budget issue
and check the mega thread @HarleyGuy has instructions there
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...inistration-routes-dosing-and-reviews.109779/
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Welcome back brother....the Canadian armada grows a little more. Really pleased you have pivoted back in this direction. We have a couple of endurance athletes on Evo and I love the diversity in training, diet and ped use that is used in pursuit of your chosen goals. I look forward to following along on your journey back to the Elite status health you are obviously capable of. 🩵
 
good move :D @haldencapital

I would start with 5mgs/week and see how you feel but you can start with easy cardarine before that if you have a budget issue
and check the mega thread @HarleyGuy has instructions there
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...inistration-routes-dosing-and-reviews.109779/

@LevButlerov I still have a few bags of cardarine at home :) As for SLU, that was the exact thread a was reading. MCT oil seems to be the way... I'll keep educating myself on this peptide.

Welcome back brother....the Canadian armada grows a little more. Really pleased you have pivoted back in this direction. We have a couple of endurance athletes on Evo and I love the diversity in training, diet and ped use that is used in pursuit of your chosen goals. I look forward to following along on your journey back to the Elite status health you are obviously capable of. 🩵
@Kopite67 thank you. Yes, the Canadian community is getting larger by the day, very interesting! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
 
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It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
@haldencapital nice job man, I got a lot of respect for this. The diet looks fantastic, lots of good fats between the sardines, eggs, and olive oil.
 
@jerseyshoremuscles I totally agree with the test-only cycle. The issue is that my first cycle proved I’m a heavy aromatizer. My E2 hit 70 pg/mL on just 170 mg a week. Unless I want to lean heavily on an AI, I just don’t see how I could manage double that dose without things getting out of control. If it wasn't for this i would go test only..
After writing what's below in italic I realized I can just ask you... does your lab really use pg/ml? I've only ever seen pmol/L in Ontario in which case 70 would be fine.

Wait, you think 70 is high? These were my bloods last week and I thought my e2 was great. Did you mean pmol/L or the pg/mL that you wrote? 70 pg/mL on 170mg/week is only about 19 pmol/L so your e2 was kinda low. Am I wrong on this? The range for males in pmol/L is <36-191> and this converted to pg/mL is <9.8-52> so if you meant that it was 70 pg/ml then yes it was high.

Can you post the 70 pic you mean so we can see how it was measured and what the 70 means?


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It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Sorry to hear about your drinking issues. It is definitely something that is not easy to conquer but we believe in you in the future. @haldencapital
 
After writing what's below in italic I realized I can just ask you... does your lab really use pg/ml? I've only ever seen pmol/L in Ontario in which case 70 would be fine.

Wait, you think 70 is high? These were my bloods last week and I thought my e2 was great. Did you mean pmol/L or the pg/mL that you wrote? 70 pg/mL on 170mg/week is only about 19 pmol/L so your e2 was kinda low. Am I wrong on this? The range for males in pmol/L is <36-191> and this converted to pg/mL is <9.8-52> so if you meant that it was 70 pg/ml then yes it was high.

Can you post the 70 pic you mean so we can see how it was measured and what the 70 means?


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@HarleyGuy yeah it's in pmol/L but i converted it in pg/ml for the USA folks.

It's in french but estradiol was at 255 pmol/L when i was at 170 mg per week on average which according to this converter is 69.5 pg/mL. https://unitslab.com/node/113

I have my baseline bloodwork next week i'll see where my natural level stands. My last bloodwork on January 13th 2026 was right after my drinking binge so the reading was out of wack at 36 pmol/L which is likely inaccurate.


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It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Gotta say I called it. I knew you'd still be crazy shredded. Considering all you've been through its insane. You look like you haven't missed a step bro.

I'm glad you were able to pick yourself back up outta that spiral. We've all slipped up and taken steps back in one way or another but none of that matters as long as you can find your way back.

You look ready for the season already and I'm excited to see what you can do with your new militaristic regime bro!
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Hey mate, good start to your log. Interesting read. Good that you have bounced back from the drinking and poor diet!

You look awesome in the photos! Crazy leanness and also some decent size. It's a shame you want to limit yourself due to your other hobbies / activities as it looks like you have really good genetics for bodybuilding.

On the cycles, why not just TRT given you fairly low natural T?

Your training split looks pretty good. I think that's a Dorian Yates inspired 3-way. I would have legs between the two upper days though. Otherwise your shoulders end up getting hit two days in a row. Easy to make adjustments come summer time. Just change to an upper lower split (can be done three or four days a week).
 
Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. (y)(y) I really never envisioned having the full anabolic load of 400 mg with testosterone given that my E2 was sky high on 170 mg last year. My optic was that If I run 400 mg of test, my E2 will skyrocket. By running 200mg test and 200mg primo, I keep the total anabolic load at 400 mg while keeping the actual conversion to E2 at a level my body has already shown it can (mostly) handle. Primo does not reduce how much testosterone converts to estrogen, but if I have less testosterone from the 400 mg total, overall the level of conversion should be less.
You’d use Anastrozole over Primobolan to control estrogen because Anastrozole directly blocks the aromatase enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen, making it far more predictable and effective for managing high estradiol levels. In contrast, Primobolan only has mild indirect anti-estrogenic effects (mainly by not aromatizing and slightly competing at receptor level), which is often not strong enough when running moderate-to-high doses of testosterone. So if your goal is precise, reliable estrogen control—especially to prevent issues like water retention or gynecomastia—Anastrozole is the more targeted and dependable option, whereas Primo is better viewed as an anabolic with only secondary, weak estrogen-modulating benefits.
 
Masteron is considered more of a cosmetic drug because its primary effects are visual—hardening the physique, increasing muscle density, and giving a drier, more defined look—rather than driving significant new muscle growth. As a DHT-derived compound, it doesn’t strongly stimulate anabolic pathways compared to drugs like testosterone or nandrolone, so actual tissue gain is limited. It’s also often misunderstood as an anti-estrogen; while it can mildly oppose estrogenic effects at the receptor level, it does not inhibit aromatase like true AIs (e.g., Anastrozole), making it unreliable for controlling estrogen. So its value is mainly in enhancing appearance during a cut or recomposition phase, not as a primary muscle builder or a dependable estrogen management tool.
 
I understand your logic for the use of primo. Imo primo is an expensive drug for what it does.
It’s best suited for recomposition or cutting phases where preserving muscle, improving detail, and maintaining a balanced, aesthetic look are the priority rather than chasing maximum size.

I would rather stack Testosterone with masteron than primo.

For physique-focused use, Primobolan and Masteron overlap but serve slightly different cosmetic roles: Primo is better for preserving lean muscle and even adding small, quality tissue while dieting, giving a clean, balanced look without much water retention, whereas Masteron is more purely cosmetic—enhancing hardness, dryness, and definition, especially at lower body fat levels. For muscle retention, Primo generally has the edge due to its more reliable anabolic effect, while Masteron shines when the goal is maximum visual sharpness rather than maintaining or building significant muscle mass.

Imo
Testosterone and Primobolan do overlap in that both provide anabolic signaling for muscle maintenance and growth, which is why some argue you could just increase testosterone instead of adding Primo. However, the key difference is that higher testosterone also increases aromatization into estrogen, often leading to more water retention and the need for stricter estrogen management, whereas Primo adds additional anabolic effect without raising estrogen, helping maintain a drier, cleaner look. So while more testosterone can replicate much of the raw muscle-building effect, it doesn’t replicate the same cosmetic profile or low-estrogen environment that Primo provides

Imo
Testosterone and Masteron overlap less from a pure muscle-building standpoint, since Masteron is relatively weak anabolically and more cosmetic in nature. You could increase testosterone to make up for the anabolic effect, but that would also drive more aromatization and estrogen-related effects like water retention. Masteron, on the other hand, doesn’t aromatize and can enhance hardness and dryness while slightly offsetting estrogenic appearance, though it’s not a true estrogen control solution. So replacing it with more testosterone might match or exceed muscle-building, but it won’t replicate the same dry, hardened look that Masteron provides.
 
@HarleyGuy yeah it's in pmol/L but i converted it in pg/ml for the USA folks.

It's in french but estradiol was at 255 pmol/L when i was at 170 mg per week on average which according to this converter is 69.5 pg/mL. https://unitslab.com/node/113

I have my baseline bloodwork next week i'll see where my natural level stands. My last bloodwork on January 13th 2026 was right after my drinking binge so the reading was out of wack at 36 pmol/L which is likely inaccurate.


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Ah ok then this makes more sense for context thanks for clearing this up! Ya you're e2 is high LOL.

Baseline would be great to see keep us posted on that and we can go from there.
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
bros you gonna come back stronger. @haldencapital after my plumbing accident i thought i was finished. look at me now
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
@haldencapital just don't keep alcohol in your house and don't hang out with people like that. There really is no reason to use it; it doesn't have any benefits.
 
@LevButlerov I still have a few bags of cardarine at home :) As for SLU, that was the exact thread a was reading. MCT oil seems to be the way... I'll keep educating myself on this peptide.
you can do SLU oral you dont need to pin it, you can start lower doses @haldencapital Ive seen @BeMe use 500mcg so 1mg is a start
and pump up the cardarine !
 
I understand your logic for the use of primo. Imo primo is an expensive drug for what it does.
It’s best suited for recomposition or cutting phases where preserving muscle, improving detail, and maintaining a balanced, aesthetic look are the priority rather than chasing maximum size.

I would rather stack Testosterone with masteron than primo.

For physique-focused use, Primobolan and Masteron overlap but serve slightly different cosmetic roles: Primo is better for preserving lean muscle and even adding small, quality tissue while dieting, giving a clean, balanced look without much water retention, whereas Masteron is more purely cosmetic—enhancing hardness, dryness, and definition, especially at lower body fat levels. For muscle retention, Primo generally has the edge due to its more reliable anabolic effect, while Masteron shines when the goal is maximum visual sharpness rather than maintaining or building significant muscle mass.

Imo
Testosterone and Primobolan do overlap in that both provide anabolic signaling for muscle maintenance and growth, which is why some argue you could just increase testosterone instead of adding Primo. However, the key difference is that higher testosterone also increases aromatization into estrogen, often leading to more water retention and the need for stricter estrogen management, whereas Primo adds additional anabolic effect without raising estrogen, helping maintain a drier, cleaner look. So while more testosterone can replicate much of the raw muscle-building effect, it doesn’t replicate the same cosmetic profile or low-estrogen environment that Primo provides

Imo
Testosterone and Masteron overlap less from a pure muscle-building standpoint, since Masteron is relatively weak anabolically and more cosmetic in nature. You could increase testosterone to make up for the anabolic effect, but that would also drive more aromatization and estrogen-related effects like water retention. Masteron, on the other hand, doesn’t aromatize and can enhance hardness and dryness while slightly offsetting estrogenic appearance, though it’s not a true estrogen control solution. So replacing it with more testosterone might match or exceed muscle-building, but it won’t replicate the same dry, hardened look that Masteron provides.

@jerseyshoremuscles thank you so much! I've used masteron last year, it was pretty mild but very tolerate. No side effects despite the acne. I guess, i'll have to try for myself knowing i cannot crank the testosterone too much given my high aromatization.

Ah ok then this makes more sense for context thanks for clearing this up! Ya you're e2 is high LOL.

Baseline would be great to see keep us posted on that and we can go from there.

@HarleyGuy yes, it was high. :) I was very surprised to see my E2 that high on such a low dose, knowing that for most, the 170 mg was a TRT dose. I cannot imagine not doing any bloodwork. That would be crazy to put stuff in your body and not monitoring it.

Were you having any estrogen symptoms when your e2 was 69?

I feel my best when my e2 is in range but on the elevated side. I look my best when my estrogen is low

@jerseyshoremuscles On my last week where i injected 200 mg yes. I had sensitive nipples right away. My average was 170 mg but the last two weeks were 180 and 200 respectively if i recall. I was a water balloon :D

Good to see you're kicking ass

@Mobster not a straight line for sure but we make it happen.

bros you gonna come back stronger. @haldencapital after my plumbing accident i thought i was finished. look at me now

@ceo growth comes from failure and repetition. That is true for muscles and also true in life. Let's keep crushing it!

@haldencapital just don't keep alcohol in your house and don't hang out with people like that. There really is no reason to use it; it doesn't have any benefits.

@Ulter ✅✅✅

you can do SLU oral you dont need to pin it, you can start lower doses @haldencapital Ive seen @BeMe use 500mcg so 1mg is a start
and pump up the cardarine !

@LevButlerov interesting. So it is bio-available to a certain degree. I'll keep reading about it, make up the budget for it and use the leftover cardarine I have in the meantime.
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Nothing is better than seeing a nice comeback. We got 100% confidence in you man. The EVO family is your family and we're going to support you the whole way through. Let's kick the bad habits out the window. @haldencapital
 
Nothing is better than seeing a nice comeback. We got 100% confidence in you man. The EVO family is your family and we're going to support you the whole way through. Let's kick the bad habits out the window. @haldencapital

@2Thick 🙏🙏🙏
 
Gotta say I called it. I knew you'd still be crazy shredded. Considering all you've been through its insane. You look like you haven't missed a step bro.

I'm glad you were able to pick yourself back up outta that spiral. We've all slipped up and taken steps back in one way or another but none of that matters as long as you can find your way back.

You look ready for the season already and I'm excited to see what you can do with your new militaristic regime bro!

@BeMe thank you, i'm glad to be out of the ditch and to have stopped the damages before it got too deep. One day at a time now. I hope you are well buddy!

Hey mate, good start to your log. Interesting read. Good that you have bounced back from the drinking and poor diet!

You look awesome in the photos! Crazy leanness and also some decent size. It's a shame you want to limit yourself due to your other hobbies / activities as it looks like you have really good genetics for bodybuilding.

On the cycles, why not just TRT given you fairly low natural T?

Your training split looks pretty good. I think that's a Dorian Yates inspired 3-way. I would have legs between the two upper days though. Otherwise your shoulders end up getting hit two days in a row. Easy to make adjustments come summer time. Just change to an upper lower split (can be done three or four days a week).

@waggat thank you. Yes, i'm kind of limiting myself a bit when it comes to building my full potential but i still like having some sort of balance.

The split is indeed inspired by Yates. I'm not too rigid on the order. Legs are first now because I prioritize them but it will change soon as i will add more mountain bike and hiking. Volume will be adjusted down and i will likely allow for more recovery.

As for TRT, i have an appointment with my doctor next week. We will discuss about it. The timing will be right, my new baseline bloodwork should be available by then.
 
@HarleyGuy yes, it was high. :) I was very surprised to see my E2 that high on such a low dose, knowing that for most, the 170 mg was a TRT dose. I cannot imagine not doing any bloodwork. That would be crazy to put stuff in your body and not monitoring it.
It's great you're monitoring bloodwork and see the insanity in not doing this. Alas, some run gear all year round at high doses and never bother.

@LevButlerov interesting. So it is bio-available to a certain degree. I'll keep reading about it, make up the budget for it and use the leftover cardarine I have in the meantime.
@LevButlerov is correct we're kind of stuck with it being an oral peptide at the moment. We have a community research thread on SLUPP and part of it is finding out how to reconstitute for subQ injection. If you want to keep up on the latest you can check it out here ➡️ SLU-PP-332 Peptide - Administration Routes, Dosing, and Reviews.

Let me know if you're currently running SLUPP and your dosage and I'll add you to the article on page 1 as a member of the EVO SLUPP club :p
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
@haldencapital Great update bro! Crushing it! Lean!
 
It's time, dear friends. I'm back. Time for the new log. Thanks to @BeMe @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy for keeping me up to speed with the most recent Canadian updates while I was away.

Background (36 y/o, 5' 11'' male)

Ex-endurance athlete. Over the course of the last few years I transitioned from a 130 lbs cyclist to a fitness enthusiast wanna-be bodybuilder. I always had a predominance to leanness due to my athletic background. I’ve raced in the USA and in Europe in the Pyrenees and was a “grimpeur” due to my functional threshold power and V02max. I stopped everything cycling related due to work and transitioned to fitness. After 5-6 years of military regimen, calculated diet and weight lifting, I stagnated at around 160-165 pounds (+35 lbs from start) and did my first testosterone-only cycle in 2025.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...o-fitness-my-first-ever-ped-cycle-log.103142/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...anavar-vascularity-for-the-summer-log.104639/ (second iteration with masteron)


With this cycle, I learned that I am a very prone responder. My natural baseline was

Total test: 372 ng/dL
Free: 55 pg/mL
Bioavailable: 112 ng/dL

With a very low average dose of 170 mg per week of testosterone, I was able to get the following:

Total test: 1327 ng/dL
Free: 543 pg/ml
Bioavailable: 1116 ng/dL

It's important to mention that I'm an extremist. When I have my head deep down into a goal, my entire life goes around it. This might lead to atypical results. That being said, it also shows that very minimal PEDs are required (if at all) to achieve somewhat great results, at least for my lifestyle-oriented objectives. Diet, sleep, and consistency go a lot further than 1 gram of gear.

What happened?

I've been away for 6 months. A family health issue turned into a downward spiral. I went back to drinking. Heavily. At my heaviest and leanest after my 2025 cycle, I was at 185 pounds. Because of the bad habits, I went down to 175 lbs between October and January, and body composition went to shit. During the October-January episode, I had accumulated a decent amount of body fat, my sleep was bad, and my diet (if we can call it that) was off.

I won't go into the details; that ain't fun, but on January 2nd, 2026, I went cold turkey. The extremist that I am went back to looking at himself in the mirror like a man and pivoted.

Military regimen back on

From there, military regimen. I started using retatrutide 1 mg a week. This changed everything. I never felt so wired. Since the first injection, my stress is unbelievably easy to manage. Cortisol is optimal. I have no urge to drink and have no desire to derail my diet. That thing is phenomenal. That is all I've been using since January 2026.

My goal was to burn all the fat. I was ready to lose muscle mass in the process, as I know the building process will be easier on a lean frame than having to fight fat while recomposing.

I now look similar to where I started in 2025 before I had taken any gear. 160 pounds (yes). I have lost 15 pounds on Reta over the course of the last 3 months. I was able to preserve enough muscles and about 80% of the strength I had.

I might look skinny to some but it was a necessary passage to me in order to recover from the slippery path I was on. I'm glad about the way i look and be able to use this lean starting point as a reference. This is mentally important for the journey ahead.

The foundation - Lifestyle oriented approach

Now that I'm back to a strong foundation, I'm about to start my new log/cycle. I won't ever be 200 pounds. My goal is lifestyle-oriented. I like the outdoors (mountain biking, hiking) too much to carry around that amount of weight. I just like having an athletic and muscular build that I can enjoy my life with, if that makes sense. I also don't like the idea of packing an insane amount of gear, as I know for a fact that very little is required when all other factors are in check. The gear shouldn't be there to compensate for a bad diet or a bad lifestyle. It should simply be there to complement it. Of course, if the idea is to weigh 200+ lbs, this is different. I'm not part of this group.

Goal - Low side effects and minimal effective dose

That being said, the approach is the search for my minimal effective dose. I want the cycle to be simple, easy to manage (prone responder and heavy aromatizer), and have low side effects. My previous experience leads me to think that a 300-400 mg weekly anabolic load is plenty. More importantly, I want it to be lifestyle oriented in order to keep riding my bike and hiking mountains. If I can get to a clean 170 lbs, I woud be happy.

The PEDs (from our approved source @Fusion Canada

Option 1 (16 weeks) – Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week
Primo: 150 mg a week (up to 200), 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
HGH: 4 IU a day
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: easy to manage
Cons: costly

Option 2 (16 weeks) - Start date around May 2026

Test cyp: 150 mg a week (up to 200),
Primo: 100 mg a week, 3 injections per week in the same syringe as the test
NPP: 150 mg a week, 3 injections per week
AI: Aromasin 12.5 mg as needed

Benefit: cost effective
Cons: even with a low dose, I'm simply not sure if, as I'm a prone responder to everything, if I would have issues with progesterone-related activity and side effects such as gyno.

PCT

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20 mg a day, Clomid 50 mg a day
Week 3-4 Nolvadex 10 mg a day, Clomid 25 mg a day

So far I opt for the simplicity of option 1. I'm just not sure about the added complexity of NPP even at these tiny doses (relative to some of y'all).

The training

Three day split, twice a week.

Day 1: legs and abs
Day 2: shoulders and back
Day 3: chest and arms
Day 4: rest
Repeat

Things get complicated during the summer as I do a lot of aerobic activities such as hiking and mountain biking. This has an adverse impact on my ability to recover and build muscle. But again, this is a lifestyle-oriented approach so all good.

The diet

I simply prep separate ingredients and mix it all together. One protein, one carbohydrate one fat.

Protein: egg whites, chicken breasts, horse meat, cod or white fish, tuna cans, whey
Carbs : oatmeal, white rice, sweet potatoes, fruits and veggies
Fats: sardines, eggs, olive oil

Medecine/supplements/bloodwork

Doxy 100mg a day: I still have back acne from my previous cycle. It's not accutane bad but it's still there. I have an appointment with a dermatologist soon.
Vitamin D3
N2Guard
Multi-vitamin
Bloodwork: every three months with my doctor. Will increase frequency at the beginning of my cycle.

Current physique (see pictures)

Will post here from time to time once I get this thing started next month.

Stay blessed folks!
Glad to have you back @haldencapital let’s see you get back to it man
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
 

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Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
you're looking good increasing the size and cuts :D @haldencapital hows the food and training? :D

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Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
Awesome lean base for sure brother!

Tell us more about the biking? 🚴
 
you're looking good increasing the size and cuts :D @haldencapital hows the food and training? :D
@LevButlerov nothing has changed food and training wise. Same plan as above. I am now at maintenance caloric intake, slowly reduced the reta to 0.5 mg per week and expect to bump the calories a bit once i start the cycle.


Awesome lean base for sure brother!

Tell us more about the biking? 🚴

@Yuri Biking is still very boring right now because it is still freezing cold. Most days are below 0 celcius but at least most of the snow is gone so i can ride. I just ride on dirt roads with my XC bike. The trails won't be open until all the snow has melted on the ski slopes so that is going to leave me plenty of time to get my legs ready for the summer :)


geez mate those ab's are very impressive

@rizzlekdizzle i remember a few years ago before i started going to the gym, i used to live in a tiny bachelor apartment in toronto and was entertaining the idea of building muscles but was still too "shy" to go to a gym so i trained my abs at home almost everyday with bodyweight exercises on a yoga mat in my tiny kitchen. THis is the foundation of these abs. Lots of crunches.

Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail

What does that mean?

@Mobster i hold most of my fat in my legs and my upper body being the leanest part, i use it as a visual gauge to know when losing weight should stop. When the shoulders are getting smaller, it's time to stop being in a deficit or else i'll just become skinny.
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
@haldencapital man, you are looking fantastic. The vascularity is insane and the size of your biceps is looking really good.
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
Amazing physique my man. You did a great job so far. The crazy thing is I think that you'll get even better. @haldencapital
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
You've got good structure to your physique. I got a lot of respect for what you're doing. @haldencapital one of the good things about your look is the muscle density.
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
@haldencapital Bros, hell yeah, you got veins popping out from everywhere, even from your neck. You are a scary mofo. I got a lot of respect for you.
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
You've built a true beach body for sure. You can definitely take that body on the beach and definitely get a lot of looks. Good job. @haldencapital
 
@haldencapital man, you are looking fantastic. The vascularity is insane and the size of your biceps is looking really good.

@stevesmi thank you. The benefit of vascularity is that at my size it allows me to look "bigger" than i really am in reality. Like on TV, the camera adds 10 pounds :D

Amazing physique my man. You did a great job so far. The crazy thing is I think that you'll get even better. @haldencapital

@2Thick hell yeah, always be looking forward no matter what. That's the only way. No rear view mirror.

You've got good structure to your physique. I got a lot of respect for what you're doing. @haldencapital one of the good things about your look is the muscle density.

@Ulter thank you. density builds up with time. It should only get better as i age.

@haldencapital Bros, hell yeah, you got veins popping out from everywhere, even from your neck. You are a scary mofo. I got a lot of respect for you.

@ceo thanks boss! the nurse doing my bloodwork loves the veins too :)

You've built a true beach body for sure. You can definitely take that body on the beach and definitely get a lot of looks. Good job. @haldencapital

@ROIDDERS the beach will have to wait for the snow to melt. More often than not the "looks" come from men but i'll take it :ROFLMAO:
 
@stevesmi thank you. The benefit of vascularity is that at my size it allows me to look "bigger" than i really am in reality. Like on TV, the camera adds 10 pounds :D



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yeah I hear ya on that
 
@LevButlerov nothing has changed food and training wise. Same plan as above. I am now at maintenance caloric intake, slowly reduced the reta to 0.5 mg per week and expect to bump the calories a bit once i start the cycle.
when you ready to start the bump? :D on cals macros @haldencapital
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
You look super bike fit to me. Bro you got such crazy genetics. Such nice lines and crazy vascularity. What a blessing.

Did you go MTB? The trails are rideable out there already?
 
when you ready to start the bump? :D on cals macros @haldencapital

@LevButlerov the first bump should be in May. In a few weeks. :D

You look super bike fit to me. Bro you got such crazy genetics. Such nice lines and crazy vascularity. What a blessing.

Did you go MTB? The trails are rideable out there already?

@BeMe the trails are far from being open. Because the resort does snowmaking they can extend the ski season a lot. Sunday was the official last day of skiing for the season. So there will be snow on the trails until at least end of May. I ride my XC bike on dirt roads for now. It's still cold to my liking but the weather should get warmer soon.
 
Very good shoulder workout today from the office gym and once again the bicep pump is a testimony to the greatness of this session. Google Maps are loading on the biceps.

Lots of lateral raises today. Very high volume of 1:2 ratio dropset. One set consists of x reps at 30 lbs and right after i need to make twice as much reps with half the weight. If that makes any sense : one set would be 10 reps x 30 lbs followed immediately by 20 reps at 15 lbs. That is nasty. After 2-3 sets, i need to make a few seconds pause to complete my 20 reps.

Still at 2050 calories which is now my maintenance level at 160.5 lbs. Took my last mg of reta yesterday. I'll see how my brain evolves in the next few weeks without it. I'll try my best to avoid any rebound.

Usual office kitchen pictures.
 

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Very good shoulder workout today from the office gym and once again the bicep pump is a testimony to the greatness of this session. Google Maps are loading on the biceps.

Lots of lateral raises today. Very high volume of 1:2 ratio dropset. One set consists of x reps at 30 lbs and right after i need to make twice as much reps with half the weight. If that makes any sense : one set would be 10 reps x 30 lbs followed immediately by 20 reps at 15 lbs. That is nasty. After 2-3 sets, i need to make a few seconds pause to complete my 20 reps.

Still at 2050 calories which is now my maintenance level at 160.5 lbs. Took my last mg of reta yesterday. I'll see how my brain evolves in the next few weeks without it. I'll try my best to avoid any rebound.

Usual office kitchen pictures.
Looking fantastic brother. 🩵
 
Very good shoulder workout today from the office gym and once again the bicep pump is a testimony to the greatness of this session. Google Maps are loading on the biceps.

Lots of lateral raises today. Very high volume of 1:2 ratio dropset. One set consists of x reps at 30 lbs and right after i need to make twice as much reps with half the weight. If that makes any sense : one set would be 10 reps x 30 lbs followed immediately by 20 reps at 15 lbs. That is nasty. After 2-3 sets, i need to make a few seconds pause to complete my 20 reps.

Still at 2050 calories which is now my maintenance level at 160.5 lbs. Took my last mg of reta yesterday. I'll see how my brain evolves in the next few weeks without it. I'll try my best to avoid any rebound.

Usual office kitchen pictures.
@haldencapital good updates....keep progressing.....
 
Not much going on since last week.

For now, business as usual. Not trying to gain any size. I'll start gradually increasing the calories in a few weeks once i get all the good stuff from our sources. I'm just trying to maintain my leanness while I gradually incorporate more biking into my routine. Last weekend was the first ride on the bike. I need to adjust my recovery accordingly. I think that is the leanest i can get naturally before losing too much muscles. Shoulders are already at the limit of being frail. The veins on the biceps are getting nasty :P That will be a very good base to start with... Very satisfied despite everything that happened.
@haldencapital man I would say a good base. Your base is better than most peoples physique.
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
 

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Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
Look fantastic brother. Really full and also lean. Nice work so far 🩵
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
Really lean and hard :D love the size you have even with lower weight @haldencapital

now that you off reta, you are eating more? how much?

and job site, how about adding orals? :D
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
@haldencapital great job on this man. I'm glad that you are doing the online thing both with work and with your clinic. It makes it easy.
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
Be interesting to see how you do. A lot of people complain about the Reta Rebound afterwards. So I'm not surprised you're dealing with it. @haldencapital
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
Bros, amazing work on this. @haldencapital it's okay if you can't take it to the job site. Don't take any risks.
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
@haldencapital will be interesting to see what happens post the reta. A lot of people tend to gain weight afterwards. So it will be cool to see if the same thing happens to you.
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
That's OK man. Wait till you are done. Make sure you don't mess around with your work. You'll be back and you'll be on the sauce before you know it. @haldencapital
 
Really lean and hard :D love the size you have even with lower weight @haldencapital

now that you off reta, you are eating more? how much?

and job site, how about adding orals? :D

Oh yeah hunger is very strong. I manage to keep it together. I'm at maintenance on some days and have a slight 10-15% suplus on most days. around 2200 to 2400 calories which at my current weight allows me to gain slowly. @LevButlerov

@haldencapital great job on this man. I'm glad that you are doing the online thing both with work and with your clinic. It makes it easy.

As I get older, convenience is something i look for. it allows me to buy back some time because the drive to get to my doctor's office was two hours round-trip. @stevesmi

14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

Rather you than me

@Mobster This isn't fun for sure but we got to pay the bills somehow. At the very least this time, the food they provide us is decent. It helps a lot.

Be interesting to see how you do. A lot of people complain about the Reta Rebound afterwards. So I'm not surprised you're dealing with it. @haldencapital

@haldencapital will be interesting to see what happens post the reta. A lot of people tend to gain weight afterwards. So it will be cool to see if the same thing happens to you.

@ROIDDERS @Ulter interesting about the reta rebound. I honestly didn't think about it too much at first but for sure, something happens in the brain when we are on it. The cravings are back and i tend to "think about food" which was totally absent when on reta.

That's OK man. Wait till you are done. Make sure you don't mess around with your work. You'll be back and you'll be on the sauce before you know it. @haldencapital

@2Thick i am not worried at all. I respond so well on TRT i think i could sniff the vial of test and grow from it :ROFLMAO: I don't need much to see results.
 
Oh yeah hunger is very strong. I manage to keep it together. I'm at maintenance on some days and have a slight 10-15% suplus on most days. around 2200 to 2400 calories which at my current weight allows me to gain slowly. @LevButlerov
I would start doing some GLP1s more dose, you interested? :D @haldencapital you can join Team Oxygen @OxygenPharm he has good peptides saw quality retatrutide on https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/
he has VIP pricing for EVO brothers :D https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/product/retatrutide-10mg/
 
I would start doing some GLP1s more dose, you interested? :D @haldencapital you can join Team Oxygen @OxygenPharm he has good peptides saw quality retatrutide on https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/
he has VIP pricing for EVO brothers :D https://oxygenpharmcanada.is/product/retatrutide-10mg/

Yes, i'll see how the relationship with food evolves in May but if i fight hunger for no reason i'll get back on reta again. I had enough of 1 mg per week so it is very low dose. I had zero side effects on such a dose. @LevButlerov

And @OxygenPharm has very cheap pricing on reta. I don't like buying 15-20 mg vial because the vial would be punctured for way too long on 1 mg a week and their 10 mg vial is the cheapest i've seen this year. I didn't know about the VIP pricing. I'll be in touch with them when the time comes. @LevButlerov
 
As I get older, convenience is something i look for. it allows me to buy back some time because the drive to get to my doctor's office was two hours round-trip. @stevesmi
yeah that is true. home sweet home
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
Nice update bro and pics are looking peeled! Your chest is ripped bro.

You're working super hard so thanks for keeping us updated. Hopefully you work things out with Oxygen you can run their Reta and get your appetite under control. Glad you got the TRT figured out with your work travels too.

Keep us posted brother.
 
Yes, i'll see how the relationship with food evolves in May but if i fight hunger for no reason i'll get back on reta again. I had enough of 1 mg per week so it is very low dose. I had zero side effects on such a dose. @LevButlerov

And @OxygenPharm has very cheap pricing on reta. I don't like buying 15-20 mg vial because the vial would be punctured for way too long on 1 mg a week and their 10 mg vial is the cheapest i've seen this year. I didn't know about the VIP pricing. I'll be in touch with them when the time comes. @LevButlerov
TBH I think you can keep a vial up to 16-20 weeks after reconstitution as long as its in the fridge :D get in touch with @OxygenPharm on VIP prices its worth the shot! I feel you're back and going hard, its a win for you @haldencapital
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
@haldencapital Looking incredible bro! So lean & vascular!
 
@ROIDDERS @Ulter interesting about the reta rebound. I honestly didn't think about it too much at first but for sure, something happens in the brain when we are on it. The cravings are back and i tend to "think about food" which was totally absent when on reta.
Yes if you take something away, it's going to change the way your brain thinks.
 
TBH I think you can keep a vial up to 16-20 weeks after reconstitution as long as its in the fridge :D get in touch with @OxygenPharm on VIP prices its worth the shot! I feel you're back and going hard, its a win for you @haldencapital

@LevButlerov yep, i'm reaching out to them right about now. I'll be able to get some stuff when i get back home in a few weeks :)
 
@ROIDDERS @Ulter interesting about the reta rebound. I honestly didn't think about it too much at first but for sure, something happens in the brain when we are on it. The cravings are back and i tend to "think about food" which was totally absent when on reta.
You get rebound with anything really. I mean think about it: if you run testosterone for five years then stop, what do you think's gonna happen?
 
Quick update, time is limited as I’m back on the 14/14 rotation in Northern Canada.

I officially finished my retatrutide on April 18 2026. Starting weight of 175 lbs (post-bender/high "fluff") to low weight of 160 lbs (lean). I’ve managed to preserve the vast majority of my muscle mass, creating what I consider a very solid base to work from.

On April 30, 2026, I transferred my TRT management to an online clinic. This is very convenient for my remote work schedule. The consultation cost is comparable to my previous family doctor who was managing my TRT and giving me the blood work requisitions. Downside, the clinic's pharmacy charges for syringes and needles with every renewal. Supplies are more expensive than buying online with their markup but it is what it is.

I'm getting hungrier now than i'm off the reta. It's no joke. I manage so far and i slowly increased my calories to go back to maintenance. Since April 18, i'm up 3 pounds. 163 lbs morning weight. I look fuller without a pump.

Physique update in chronological order below from April 27 to May 3rd.

No primo and NPP so far. I cannot carry this on the job site. :) It will have to wait.
@haldencapital Great updates.....
 
Alright folks! I am done with the first 14 days on duty from my 14/14 work schedule. I am exhausted but i still manage to make the best out of it. I have 14 days off which will be very nice to catch up on sleep. And then after that, one more 14/14 cycle and i am off for a bit.

I have been off reta for a month. At first hunger was out of this world. With the 12 hour shift it got very challenging and i let my body tell me where it wanted to settle. I really did not have the stamina to fight it. So i went from a 160 lbs flat after the cut to a healthier 166 lbs. I hover between 166 and 168 and i can tell that i'm much fuller. I really like how the chest looks for such a low bodyweight. And, I actually look like i lift without a pump :) Somewhat :) Shoulders stay round pretty much all the time. I love it. And i have energy to sustain my day.

Here are the usual pictures from my kitchen/office at the job site.

I pulled my hamstrings 4 days ago on the job site. My lower back is stiff and left ham is telling me to be careful. So no back squat for a bit but i will try to keep the blood flowing in this area until it gets better.

I'm off everything right now except for 100 mg of testosterone cypionate per week. Again, i'm a prone responder to PED. I don't need much to see results. I work, i train, i eat, i sleep. I repeat. Even though the work schedule is terrible, the rigidity of the schedule is effective. I plan on bringing reta back at a very low weekly dose and NPP at around 100-150 mg a week while i slowly bring my testosterone to my target of 150 mg a week.

14 days off means, bringing the sleep up. the cortisol down and trying to train as hard as i can before the next duty begins. I'm going to prepare myself a nice meal and go to bed now.
 

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Alright folks! I am done with the first 14 days on duty from my 14/14 work schedule. I am exhausted but i still manage to make the best out of it. I have 14 days off which will be very nice to catch up on sleep. And then after that, one more 14/14 cycle and i am off for a bit.

I have been off reta for a month. At first hunger was out of this world. With the 12 hour shift it got very challenging and i let my body tell me where it wanted to settle. I really did not have the stamina to fight it. So i went from a 160 lbs flat after the cut to a healthier 166 lbs. I hover between 166 and 168 and i can tell that i'm much fuller. I really like how the chest looks for such a low bodyweight. And, I actually look like i lift without a pump :) Somewhat :) Shoulders stay round pretty much all the time. I love it. And i have energy to sustain my day.

Here are the usual pictures from my kitchen/office at the job site.

I pulled my hamstrings 4 days ago on the job site. My lower back is stiff and left ham is telling me to be careful. So no back squat for a bit but i will try to keep the blood flowing in this area until it gets better.

I'm off everything right now except for 100 mg of testosterone cypionate per week. Again, i'm a prone responder to PED. I don't need much to see results. I work, i train, i eat, i sleep. I repeat. Even though the work schedule is terrible, the rigidity of the schedule is effective. I plan on bringing reta back at a very low weekly dose and NPP at around 100-150 mg a week while i slowly bring my testosterone to my target of 150 mg a week.

14 days off means, bringing the sleep up. the cortisol down and trying to train as hard as i can before the next duty begins. I'm going to prepare myself a nice meal and go to bed now.
first 14 days is good :D good update, you look lean and hard, very strong, weight is on track i think @haldencapital
have you been able to track food as you're on job site?

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss @Ohdamn
 
Alright folks! I am done with the first 14 days on duty from my 14/14 work schedule. I am exhausted but i still manage to make the best out of it. I have 14 days off which will be very nice to catch up on sleep. And then after that, one more 14/14 cycle and i am off for a bit.

I have been off reta for a month. At first hunger was out of this world. With the 12 hour shift it got very challenging and i let my body tell me where it wanted to settle. I really did not have the stamina to fight it. So i went from a 160 lbs flat after the cut to a healthier 166 lbs. I hover between 166 and 168 and i can tell that i'm much fuller. I really like how the chest looks for such a low bodyweight. And, I actually look like i lift without a pump :) Somewhat :) Shoulders stay round pretty much all the time. I love it. And i have energy to sustain my day.

Here are the usual pictures from my kitchen/office at the job site.

I pulled my hamstrings 4 days ago on the job site. My lower back is stiff and left ham is telling me to be careful. So no back squat for a bit but i will try to keep the blood flowing in this area until it gets better.

I'm off everything right now except for 100 mg of testosterone cypionate per week. Again, i'm a prone responder to PED. I don't need much to see results. I work, i train, i eat, i sleep. I repeat. Even though the work schedule is terrible, the rigidity of the schedule is effective. I plan on bringing reta back at a very low weekly dose and NPP at around 100-150 mg a week while i slowly bring my testosterone to my target of 150 mg a week.

14 days off means, bringing the sleep up. the cortisol down and trying to train as hard as i can before the next duty begins. I'm going to prepare myself a nice meal and go to bed now.
Nice one bro
 
Alright folks! I am done with the first 14 days on duty from my 14/14 work schedule. I am exhausted but i still manage to make the best out of it. I have 14 days off which will be very nice to catch up on sleep. And then after that, one more 14/14 cycle and i am off for a bit.

I have been off reta for a month. At first hunger was out of this world. With the 12 hour shift it got very challenging and i let my body tell me where it wanted to settle. I really did not have the stamina to fight it. So i went from a 160 lbs flat after the cut to a healthier 166 lbs. I hover between 166 and 168 and i can tell that i'm much fuller. I really like how the chest looks for such a low bodyweight. And, I actually look like i lift without a pump :) Somewhat :) Shoulders stay round pretty much all the time. I love it. And i have energy to sustain my day.

Here are the usual pictures from my kitchen/office at the job site.

I pulled my hamstrings 4 days ago on the job site. My lower back is stiff and left ham is telling me to be careful. So no back squat for a bit but i will try to keep the blood flowing in this area until it gets better.

I'm off everything right now except for 100 mg of testosterone cypionate per week. Again, i'm a prone responder to PED. I don't need much to see results. I work, i train, i eat, i sleep. I repeat. Even though the work schedule is terrible, the rigidity of the schedule is effective. I plan on bringing reta back at a very low weekly dose and NPP at around 100-150 mg a week while i slowly bring my testosterone to my target of 150 mg a week.

14 days off means, bringing the sleep up. the cortisol down and trying to train as hard as i can before the next duty begins. I'm going to prepare myself a nice meal and go to bed now.

Looking full as hell bro, smart adjustments and recovery mindset on point.
 
first 14 days is good :D good update, you look lean and hard, very strong, weight is on track i think @haldencapital
have you been able to track food as you're on job site?

@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss @Ohdamn

Oh yeah! @LevButlerov i manage the food with two metrics at the moment : protein intake and total calories. I try to get my 200-230 gr of protein everyday and then for calories i go with the "enough or not enough" method. Very difficult to eye ball. I was most certainly in a surplus after my reta dose. I feel like i'm back to maintenance now as i stay around the 166 lbs mark without any noticeable hunger. This is to be my current homeostatic point. Adding a bit of fluff is good all around. i have a lot more energy.
 
Oh yeah! @LevButlerov i manage the food with two metrics at the moment : protein intake and total calories. I try to get my 200-230 gr of protein everyday and then for calories i go with the "enough or not enough" method. Very difficult to eye ball. I was most certainly in a surplus after my reta dose. I feel like i'm back to maintenance now as i stay around the 166 lbs mark without any noticeable hunger. This is to be my current homeostatic point. Adding a bit of fluff is good all around. i have a lot more energy.
lets try to get protein to 250 :D @haldencapital
how do you feel coming back to higher macros?
 
lets try to get protein to 250 :D @haldencapital
how do you feel coming back to higher macros?

@LevButlerov i feel much better at maintenance and in a slight surplus that's for sure. Recovery is better. Sleep is better. Good mood. The point where I landed is very sustainable to build from. 250 protein will be easier when I am home 🏠
 
Alright folks! I am done with the first 14 days on duty from my 14/14 work schedule. I am exhausted but i still manage to make the best out of it. I have 14 days off which will be very nice to catch up on sleep. And then after that, one more 14/14 cycle and i am off for a bit.

I have been off reta for a month. At first hunger was out of this world. With the 12 hour shift it got very challenging and i let my body tell me where it wanted to settle. I really did not have the stamina to fight it. So i went from a 160 lbs flat after the cut to a healthier 166 lbs. I hover between 166 and 168 and i can tell that i'm much fuller. I really like how the chest looks for such a low bodyweight. And, I actually look like i lift without a pump :) Somewhat :) Shoulders stay round pretty much all the time. I love it. And i have energy to sustain my day.

Here are the usual pictures from my kitchen/office at the job site.

I pulled my hamstrings 4 days ago on the job site. My lower back is stiff and left ham is telling me to be careful. So no back squat for a bit but i will try to keep the blood flowing in this area until it gets better.

I'm off everything right now except for 100 mg of testosterone cypionate per week. Again, i'm a prone responder to PED. I don't need much to see results. I work, i train, i eat, i sleep. I repeat. Even though the work schedule is terrible, the rigidity of the schedule is effective. I plan on bringing reta back at a very low weekly dose and NPP at around 100-150 mg a week while i slowly bring my testosterone to my target of 150 mg a week.

14 days off means, bringing the sleep up. the cortisol down and trying to train as hard as i can before the next duty begins. I'm going to prepare myself a nice meal and go to bed now.
Looking really good mate. Big and lean!
 
@LevButlerov i feel much better at maintenance and in a slight surplus that's for sure. Recovery is better. Sleep is better. Good mood. The point where I landed is very sustainable to build from. 250 protein will be easier when I am home 🏠
its a good start :D lets get to higher protein when you back
do you have bars there? @haldencapital
 
its a good start :D lets get to higher protein when you back
do you have bars there? @haldencapital

i do have bars and whey. But after a while it becomes hard to digest. I usually buy egg whites that i can cook up in the microwave in my room. i can finish my macros with this if i need to. @LevButlerov
 
i do have bars and whey. But after a while it becomes hard to digest. I usually buy egg whites that i can cook up in the microwave in my room. i can finish my macros with this if i need to. @LevButlerov
how bad is the digestion issue with bars? maybe its the kind of bars you have? :D
 
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