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hello all. looking for advice on pre cycle results. if its anything to worry about and or some advice on how to get it in check

TestYour Value (mmol/L) (mg/dL)Normal Range (mmol/L)High Range (mmol/L)
Total Cholesterol4.9 (189 mg/dL)Below 5.2Above 6.2
Triglycerides1.9 (168 mg/dL)Below 1.7Above 2.3
HDL Cholesterol0.92 (36 mg/dL)Above 1.0 (men) / 1.3 (women)Below 1.0 (low)
LDL Cholesterol3.2 (124 mg/dL)Below 3.0Above 4.1
Total/HDL Ratio5.3Below 4.9Above 5.0 (high risk)

background: 35 male 88kgs 5ft10. training is 12-15 hours a week CrossFit style programing. diet is about 3500 calories a day 180g grams protein. mostly mince/chicken and pasta. still have coke cola addiction and a redbull here and there and water intake is questionable at best. test was taken Monday and the weekend before was away on trip away and ate complete crap. as far as I'm aware no family history of heart disease.

any help or advice much appreciated
 
hello all. looking for advice on pre cycle results. if its anything to worry about and or some advice on how to get it in check

TestYour Value (mmol/L) (mg/dL)Normal Range (mmol/L)High Range (mmol/L)
Total Cholesterol4.9 (189 mg/dL)Below 5.2Above 6.2
Triglycerides1.9 (168 mg/dL)Below 1.7Above 2.3
HDL Cholesterol0.92 (36 mg/dL)Above 1.0 (men) / 1.3 (women)Below 1.0 (low)
LDL Cholesterol3.2 (124 mg/dL)Below 3.0Above 4.1
Total/HDL Ratio5.3Below 4.9Above 5.0 (high risk)

background: 35 male 88kgs 5ft10. training is 12-15 hours a week CrossFit style programing. diet is about 3500 calories a day 180g grams protein. mostly mince/chicken and pasta. still have coke cola addiction and a redbull here and there and water intake is questionable at best. test was taken Monday and the weekend before was away on trip away and ate complete crap. as far as I'm aware no family history of heart disease.

any help or advice much appreciated
What does your diet consist of? Are you on any gear? 180g protien is pretty low. I would work to get that closer to 225-250.
Your also overtraining. 12-15 hours a week in the gym?
 
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let's be honest, if every American aged 40 to 60 got this bloodwork done their numbers would be off too in 90% of cases.

its our diets, stress, lifestyle etc.

when you use AAS these numbers will get worse especially on cycle. So it's important to keep an eye on them.. run your support supps And do everything you can to live a healthy lifestyle.
 
hello all. looking for advice on pre cycle results. if its anything to worry about and or some advice on how to get it in check

TestYour Value (mmol/L) (mg/dL)Normal Range (mmol/L)High Range (mmol/L)
Total Cholesterol4.9 (189 mg/dL)Below 5.2Above 6.2
Triglycerides1.9 (168 mg/dL)Below 1.7Above 2.3
HDL Cholesterol0.92 (36 mg/dL)Above 1.0 (men) / 1.3 (women)Below 1.0 (low)
LDL Cholesterol3.2 (124 mg/dL)Below 3.0Above 4.1
Total/HDL Ratio5.3Below 4.9Above 5.0 (high risk)

background: 35 male 88kgs 5ft10. training is 12-15 hours a week CrossFit style programing. diet is about 3500 calories a day 180g grams protein. mostly mince/chicken and pasta. still have coke cola addiction and a redbull here and there and water intake is questionable at best. test was taken Monday and the weekend before was away on trip away and ate complete crap. as far as I'm aware no family history of heart disease.

any help or advice much appreciated
@dizzee welcome to the EVO family, we are here to help you.

but this tells us nothing to be clear with you.
we do know you have a coca cola addiction and have strange bloods but nothing else.
If you want our help, actual help, we need you to share your full log.
how? well you start a new thread with your training nutrition log and we guide you from there as an EVO family easy to do takes 15min.

HOW-TO LOG?
  • To really guide you we need more info from you.
  • Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
  • It will take 15-20 minutes max.
  • We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

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What does your diet consist of? Are you on any gear? 180g protien is pretty low. I would work to get that closer to 225-250.
Your also overtraining. 12-15 hours a week in the gym?
It's 3x (or close to) the RDA and at least 2x what many US average Joes get. I've written often how I rarely get over 200g daily.

It's only 'low' in BB terms and many don't need as much as they consume
 
You need to put up a log Journal. It's very important.

You may end up needing some blood pressure medication.
 
The heart is nothing to mess around with.

If your numbers are bad right now, they'll get worse on cycle.
 
We aren't doctors. But we can help you if you put up your log. So we can get to know you more and Lead You In the right path.
 
Every person who uses steroids, and body build, should have a good doctor, their working with

The doctor can give you advice and prescribe you what you need.
 
hello all. looking for advice on pre cycle results. if its anything to worry about and or some advice on how to get it in check

TestYour Value (mmol/L) (mg/dL)Normal Range (mmol/L)High Range (mmol/L)
Total Cholesterol4.9 (189 mg/dL)Below 5.2Above 6.2
Triglycerides1.9 (168 mg/dL)Below 1.7Above 2.3
HDL Cholesterol0.92 (36 mg/dL)Above 1.0 (men) / 1.3 (women)Below 1.0 (low)
LDL Cholesterol3.2 (124 mg/dL)Below 3.0Above 4.1
Total/HDL Ratio5.3Below 4.9Above 5.0 (high risk)

background: 35 male 88kgs 5ft10. training is 12-15 hours a week CrossFit style programing. diet is about 3500 calories a day 180g grams protein. mostly mince/chicken and pasta. still have coke cola addiction and a redbull here and there and water intake is questionable at best. test was taken Monday and the weekend before was away on trip away and ate complete crap. as far as I'm aware no family history of heart disease.

any help or advice much appreciated
@dizzee get us a log up and going. That will be very beneficial
 
let's be honest, if every American aged 40 to 60 got this bloodwork done their numbers would be off too in 90% of cases.

its our diets, stress, lifestyle etc.

when you use AAS these numbers will get worse especially on cycle. So it's important to keep an eye on them.. run your support supps And do everything you can to live a healthy lifestyle.
What truly matters though is how much is built up in your arteries.
So a CT cardiac angiogram (calcium score) is your best bet to cover all the above properly, the blood results can be off and you may have 0 calcium score then your heart will be fine for years to come.
 
Nice work on bloods
 
this really doesnt tell anything close to the entire picture and thats the main issue with doctors and the panels they give or recommend... you need a COMPREHENSIVE panel where you get your ApoB and LPa checked, along with particle sizes etc.. THOSE are the markers that give the key indicators on the true and accurate risk of cardiac event chances... especially if you have a family history... these are very basic and dont give anything close to the picture needed...
hello all. looking for advice on pre cycle results. if its anything to worry about and or some advice on how to get it in check

TestYour Value (mmol/L) (mg/dL)Normal Range (mmol/L)High Range (mmol/L)
Total Cholesterol4.9 (189 mg/dL)Below 5.2Above 6.2
Triglycerides1.9 (168 mg/dL)Below 1.7Above 2.3
HDL Cholesterol0.92 (36 mg/dL)Above 1.0 (men) / 1.3 (women)Below 1.0 (low)
LDL Cholesterol3.2 (124 mg/dL)Below 3.0Above 4.1
Total/HDL Ratio5.3Below 4.9Above 5.0 (high risk)

background: 35 male 88kgs 5ft10. training is 12-15 hours a week CrossFit style programing. diet is about 3500 calories a day 180g grams protein. mostly mince/chicken and pasta. still have coke cola addiction and a redbull here and there and water intake is questionable at best. test was taken Monday and the weekend before was away on trip away and ate complete crap. as far as I'm aware no family history of heart disease.

any help or advice much appreciated
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What truly matters though is how much is built up in your arteries.
So a CT cardiac angiogram (calcium score) is your best bet to cover all the above properly, the blood results can be off and you may have 0 calcium score then your heart will be fine for years to come.
This is very inaccurate... a calcium score ONLY measures the amount of hard plaque... soft plaque will not show so even a score of 0 does NOT put anyone in the clear whatsoever... soft plauqe is what will kill you and cause an event... a ct angio is NOT the same thing as a calcium score whatsoever... a ct angio visualizes the coronary arteries and identifies blockages or narrowing, while calcium scoring measures the amount of calcified plaque, aiding in risk assessment for heart disease but is just more so an estimate... a ct angio will at least give an ACTUAL percentage of the true amount of calcification and location.. the CLEERLY test will identify the exact amount of soft plauqe vs hard plaque and be the most accurate assessment one can get...

telling someone that they have a 0 score and will just "be fine for years to come" is honestly reckless shit to say because it gives someone a false sense of security especially someone with a family history
 

This is very inaccurate... a calcium score ONLY measures the amount of hard plaque... soft plaque will not show so even a score of 0 does NOT put anyone in the clear whatsoever... soft plauqe is what will kill you and cause an event... a ct angio is NOT the same thing as a calcium score whatsoever... a ct angio visualizes the coronary arteries and identifies blockages or narrowing, while calcium scoring measures the amount of calcified plaque, aiding in risk assessment for heart disease but is just more so an estimate... a ct angio will at least give an ACTUAL percentage of the true amount of calcification and location.. the CLEERLY test will identify the exact amount of soft plauqe vs hard plaque and be the most accurate assessment one can get...

telling someone that they have a 0 score and will just "be fine for years to come" is honestly reckless shit to say because it gives someone a false sense of security especially someone with a family history
You are incorrect here on all fronts...
Soft plaque will kill you?
No soft plaque CAN kill you
I think someone has been watching too much youtube.
It's not that simple you have simplified a rather largely multifactorial issue.

What is Soft Plaque and Why is it Dangerous?​

Soft plaque, also called “vulnerable plaque,” consists of cholesterol, inflammatory cells, and lipids. This type of plaque can accumulate in the vessel wall, causing blockages that reduce the flow of blood to the heart muscle. When soft plaque ruptures, it may lead to acute coronary events such as a myocardial infarction (heart attack) or sudden cardiac death.

Understanding the risk factors for CAD is essential in recognizing who may benefit from testing for soft plaque. Major risk factors include:

  • High blood pressure: Elevated blood pressure damages arterial walls, promoting plaque buildup.
  • High cholesterol: Cholesterol contributes to the formation of both soft and hard plaque in the coronary arteries.
  • Diabetes mellitus: Diabetes increases inflammation and cholesterol levels, which may lead to atherosclerotic plaque buildup.
  • Family history: A genetic predisposition can increase the risk of plaque burden and CAD.
  • Unhealthy lifestyle habits: Smoking, lack of exercise, and poor dietary choices exacerbate plaque formation

How to Detect Soft Plaque in Arteries for Early Prevention of Coronary Artery Disease​

Soft plaque in the coronary arteries can increase the risk of coronary artery disease (CAD), leading to severe cardiovascular events such as heart attacks, strokes, and even sudden cardiac death. Unlike hard plaque, soft plaque is prone to rupture, which can trigger acute coronary events by blocking blood flow in the coronary arteries. Early detection of soft plaque in arteries is crucial in preventing coronary heart disease and managing risk factors effectively.


Key Risk Factors for Coronary Artery Disease

Understanding the risk factors for CAD is essential in recognizing who may benefit from testing for soft plaque. Major risk factors include:

  • High blood pressure: Elevated blood pressure damages arterial walls, promoting plaque buildup.
  • High cholesterol: Cholesterol contributes to the formation of both soft and hard plaque in the coronary arteries.
  • Diabetes mellitus: Diabetes increases inflammation and cholesterol levels, which may lead to atherosclerotic plaque buildup.
  • Family history: A genetic predisposition can increase the risk of plaque burden and CAD.
  • Unhealthy lifestyle habits: Smoking, lack of exercise, and poor dietary choices exacerbate plaque formation.

Early detection methods focus on noninvasive imaging techniques to visualize plaque morphology, assess blood flow, and reveal plaque buildup in coronary arteries:

A CT coronary angiogram uses CT images and contrast dye to visualize coronary arteries, providing a detailed view of the plaque buildup, including both soft and calcified plaque. This test helps identify blockages and assess plaque burden. Calcium scoring, often included in CTCA, quantifies calcium deposits, although it primarily detects hard plaque.

  • Exercise Stress Test: Measures how the heart functions under stress. A stress test can identify reduced blood flow caused by blocked arteries in the coronary heart disease.
  • Nuclear Stress Test: Uses a small amount of radioactive material to evaluate blood flow, helping to detect areas of the heart that aren’t receiving enough blood.

IVUS uses sound waves to create cross-sectional images of coronary arteries. It is particularly effective in visualizing plaque morphology and assessing the plaque burden in arteries, including the presence of vulnerable plaques.

The calcium score test measures the amount of calcium deposits in the coronary arteries using a CT scan. While it doesn’t directly identify soft plaque, it can help indicate the overall risk of CAD by revealing calcified plaques.

In cases where noninvasive tests are inconclusive, invasive diagnostic tests may be necessary:

Coronary angiography involves injecting a contrast dye into the coronary arteries to observe blood flow and identify blockages. During cardiac catheterization, a catheter is threaded through the blood vessel to the coronary arteries, providing detailed images of plaque buildup.

Understanding Calcium Deposits and Calcium Scoring​

While calcium scoring primarily detects hardened plaques, it’s a valuable tool in overall cardiovascular assessment. High calcium scores indicate significant calcification in coronary arteries and a high risk of CAD. Though it doesn’t detect soft plaque directly, high calcium scores suggest the presence of overall plaque


Now I don't know how they do it over there where you are from but here is the process to get a calcium score.

-Firstly you have consistent high blood pressure
-Test ordered for general blood test fasting lipids etc..
-Lipids consistently high over three tests after failing to adjust lifestyle
-Referal to specialist via GP
-cadiologist recommends stress test looking at all other factors in your life recommends stress test
-stress test normal or abnormal still symptoms
-CARDIAC CT ANGIOGRAM W/CALCIUM SCORE
(These are done together here generally if you have a decent cardiologist)
-Echocardiogram (seeing the structure and function of the heart) although this doesn't directly detect soft plaque it helps with the whole picture.
-if still symptomatic then emergency hospital visit.
-troponin.
-CRP
-Ddimer
-BNP
12 LEAD ECG

Admission to cardiology ensues, then an invasive Cardiac catheterisation may be undertaken.....

See I have detailed the complex factors involved with getting an actual calcium score and beyond but it really depends on risk factors and no test shows soft plaque in all definitity either it's just a whole bunch of tests and then assesment of risk.

Now I didn't have time to type all this as i am extremely busy but you started calling me dangerous etc and I needed to clarify that I have studied this as I wanted to be a cardiologist after biochem but just didn't have the patience to compete all the study.

Please do. Correct me if you think anything above is wrong......

Quoted from you:
"telling someone that they have a 0 score and will just "be fine for years to come" is honestly reckless shit to say because it gives someone a false sense of security especially someone with a family history"

You can read between the lines nothing should ever go above a GP advice and If you have family history this is common sense as the GP will be onto this. I can't account for ppl not realizing to do this but I have stated above the stages to get the tests needed and how it is done here... Also I believe a cardiologist is best to talk about soft plaque with not the GP (general practitioner)
 
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this really doesnt tell anything close to the entire picture and thats the main issue with doctors and the panels they give or recommend... you need a COMPREHENSIVE panel where you get your ApoB and LPa checked, along with particle sizes etc.. THOSE are the markers that give the key indicators on the true and accurate risk of cardiac event chances... especially if you have a family history... these are very basic and dont give anything close to the picture needed...

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Also brother just a heads up APOB AND LPA test results are scewed by androgen usage and also from estrogen hence why cardiologist knowing our histories would be reluctant to provide unless admitted to cardiac ward even then it's a rarely done test over here.

  • Can Anything Affect ApoB100 Test Results?​

    Besides the conditions that can cause low or high levels, other medications and lifestyle factors might affect your test results. These include:
    • Hormone drugs like androgens, estrogens, and progestins
    • Beta blockers
    • Diuretics
    • Thyroid medication
    • Statins
    • Vitamin B3
    • Surgery
    • Weight loss
    • High-fat diet
    • Certain supplements and herbs
 
how many cardiologists have you worked with? I have been the last two years, interviewed some of the VERY best in the world.. i have a personal condition and have been through all of this for several years now

LPa is a GENETIC condition that is UNAFFECTED by diet, training or anything else...it is beyond important to know if you have this condition as well as if you have high ApoB vs. regular cholesterol testing but i digress...You need to check LPa as it is a silent killer that most do not realize they have until its too late... ill stick with what im doing working with the doctors i do.. this is why i dont post on here much anymore... im sure you have extensive knowledge on this though so ill defer to you.. ive only been going through this personally now several years and dedicated years of study and work to it... ive helped thouands of people the last few years on this subject matter... i DO NOT claim to know everything on any subject but this became so personal to me that i have literally spent countless sleepless nights on it and been all over the United States, interviewing and working with the VERY VERY best in this field so that is why i even wasted my time posting on this matter..

ill let you handle it on here... all the best!!
 
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how many cardiologists have you worked with? I have been the last two years, interviewed some of the VERY best in the world.. i have a personal condition and have been through all of this for several years now

LPa is a GENETIC condition that is UNAFFECTED by diet, training or anything else...it is beyond important to know if you have this condition as well as if you have high ApoB vs. regular cholesterol testing but i digress...You need to check LPa as it is a silent killer that most do not realize they have until its too late... ill stick with what im doing working with the doctors i do.. this is why i dont post on here much anymore... im sure you have extensive knowledge on this though so ill defer to you.. ive only been going through this personally now several years and dedicated years of study and work to it... all the best
No your knowledge is very very good I enjoy the banter its informative to all the brothers on here.
I too have a close experience with all this aswell also many years of study more with the structure and function of the heart muscle related.
 
No your knowledge is very very good I enjoy the banter its informative to all the brothers on here.
I too have a close experience with all this aswell also many years of study more with the structure and function of the heart muscle related.
No your knowledge is very very good I enjoy the banter its informative to all the brothers on here.
I too have a close experience with all this aswell also many years of study more with the structure and function of the heart muscle related.
ive literally had ALL these tests done multiple times.. A calcium is the least accurate and merely an assessment of the possible amount of calcified plaque you have in your arteries and location, period.. it ONLY identifies hard plaque, which is what you would much rather have than soft.. .soft plaque is far far far more likely to fucking kill you than hard plaque because it is unstable and lipid laden meaning it can explode at any time, cause a blood clot and wipe you out.. hard plaque is far less likely to have that happen.. obviously too much hard plaque can narrow the arteries and harden them causing restrictions over time in blood flow.. but the point here is a calcium score does no more than assess the LIKELY amount of hard plaque you have and thats it..

A coronary artery calcium score (CAC) is a specific type of CT scan that focuses on measuring the amount of calcified plaque in the coronary arteries. While CAC is useful, CCTA provides a more comprehensive view of plaque, including the non-calcified component.

i had a ct angio with contrast where they inject dye into you which gives a far clearer picture of the amount of blockage you have but once again does not tell the exact amount of hard vs soft plaque but it is very accurate in determining actual blockage amount and area of blockage...

a CLEERLY scan gives the exact amount of soft vs hard plaque and is the most accurate test you can take at this time to identify it...
 
ive literally had ALL these tests done multiple times.. A calcium is the least accurate and merely an assessment of the possible amount of calcified plaque you have in your arteries and location, period.. it ONLY identifies hard plaque, which is what you would much rather have than soft.. .soft plaque is far far far more likely to fucking kill you than hard plaque because it is unstable and lipid laden meaning it can explode at any time, cause a blood clot and wipe you out.. hard plaque is far less likely to have that happen.. obviously too much hard plaque can narrow the arteries and harden them causing restrictions over time in blood flow.. but the point here is a calcium score does no more than assess the LIKELY amount of hard plaque you have and thats it..

A coronary artery calcium score (CAC) is a specific type of CT scan that focuses on measuring the amount of calcified plaque in the coronary arteries. While CAC is useful, CCTA provides a more comprehensive view of plaque, including the non-calcified component.

i had a ct angio with contrast where they inject dye into you which gives a far clearer picture of the amount of blockage you have but once again does not tell the exact amount of hard vs soft plaque but it is very accurate in determining actual blockage amount and area of blockage...

a CLEERLY scan gives the exact amount of soft vs hard plaque and is the most accurate test you can take at this time to identify it...
I agree but with cardiology nothing ever gives you 100 percent answers it can. Be frustrating beyond measure. I know how you feel brother and also the hospital admissions are draining.
I hope you are on the mend.
 
I agree but with cardiology nothing ever gives you 100 percent answers it can. Be frustrating beyond measure. I know how you feel brother and also the hospital admissions are draining.
I hope you are on the mend.
right now, the CLEERLY test is the most accurate and in depth test you can get.. unfortunately it is not cheap and not covered by insurance to test.. im getting it done in a few months time but that will give the clearest and most accurate picture of what one actually has going on inside


  • The Cleerly analysis is a thorough evaluation of the presence, amount, and type of plaque in the heart’s arteries based on a heart scan, called a coronary computed tomography angiography (CCTA). Images captured in the CCTA exam are processed by Cleerly software - a set of artificial intelligence-based algorithms - and translated into measurements and reports for review by a doctor. The results of the Cleerly analysis give a patient and their doctor a clear understanding of how much plaque (and which types) are in the arteries. This can be used by providers to assess the patient’s risk for heart attack and to provide personalized treatment recommendations, such as lifestyle changes and medication.

    Cleerly can also detect narrowing in the arteries, called stenosis. Stenosis can block blood flow through the arteries and make chest pain and eventual heart failure more likely.





      • Cleerly’s technology is based on over 10 million images from over 30,000 patients gathered over a 15-year-period in multi-center clinical trials. Our proprietary machine-learning algorithms used to analyze the amount and type of plaque are FDA-cleared. Data from six, discrete multi-center clinical trials validate Cleerly as one of the most accurate approaches for detection of coronary artery disease. These trials show that Cleerly has superior accuracy against every current clinical gold standard for heart disease diagnosis.
 
right now, the CLEERLY test is the most accurate and in depth test you can get.. unfortunately it is not cheap and not covered by insurance to test.. im getting it done in a few months time but that will give the clearest and most accurate picture of what one actually has going on inside


  • The Cleerly analysis is a thorough evaluation of the presence, amount, and type of plaque in the heart’s arteries based on a heart scan, called a coronary computed tomography angiography (CCTA). Images captured in the CCTA exam are processed by Cleerly software - a set of artificial intelligence-based algorithms - and translated into measurements and reports for review by a doctor. The results of the Cleerly analysis give a patient and their doctor a clear understanding of how much plaque (and which types) are in the arteries. This can be used by providers to assess the patient’s risk for heart attack and to provide personalized treatment recommendations, such as lifestyle changes and medication.

    Cleerly can also detect narrowing in the arteries, called stenosis. Stenosis can block blood flow through the arteries and make chest pain and eventual heart failure more likely.



      • Cleerly’s technology is based on over 10 million images from over 30,000 patients gathered over a 15-year-period in multi-center clinical trials. Our proprietary machine-learning algorithms used to analyze the amount and type of plaque are FDA-cleared. Data from six, discrete multi-center clinical trials validate Cleerly as one of the most accurate approaches for detection of coronary artery disease. These trials show that Cleerly has superior accuracy against every current clinical gold standard for heart disease diagnosis.
That's the scan we do here just we don't call. It CLEERLY
We call it a CARDIAC COMPUTED TOMOGRAPHY ANGIOGRAM and usually is done with our calcium scores if there is a history of heart problems or suspected heart problems.
Jeezuz I got it for free here on the public health system
American medical is big business money making
They seperate tests and try to double charge absolutely. Nuts.
They put a canula in and then use a dye through the canula.
That's what I meant by a clacium. Score above sorry a cardiac CT angiogram. To you guys a CLEERLY test.
When that's all clear you have nothing to worry about.
 
That's the scan we do here just we don't call. It CLEERLY
We call it a CARDIAC COMPUTED TOMOGRAPHY ANGIOGRAM and usually is done with our calcium scores if there is a history of heart problems or suspected heart problems.
Jeezuz I got it for free here on the public health system
American medical is big business money making
They seperate tests and try to double charge absolutely. Nuts.
They put a canula in and then use a dye through the canula.
That's what I meant by a clacium. Score above sorry a cardiac CT angiogram. To you guys a CLEERLY test.
When that's all clear you have nothing to worry about.
I didnt realize you were in australia until now so it sounds to me as though there was just a verbage discrepancy in what you guys say there as opposed to what we say here
 
I didnt realize you were in australia until now so it sounds to me as though there was just a verbage discrepancy in what you guys say there as opposed to what we say here
they got that free medical system bro where you wait 6 months to die then get help vs what we go is we just overpay and die @dylangemelli
That's the scan we do here just we don't call. It CLEERLY
We call it a CARDIAC COMPUTED TOMOGRAPHY ANGIOGRAM and usually is done with our calcium scores if there is a history of heart problems or suspected heart problems.
Jeezuz I got it for free here on the public health system
American medical is big business money making
They seperate tests and try to double charge absolutely. Nuts.
They put a canula in and then use a dye through the canula.
That's what I meant by a clacium. Score above sorry a cardiac CT angiogram. To you guys a CLEERLY test.
When that's all clear you have nothing to worry about.
aint you guys waiting like 12 months in line for procedures? @Pigsy tell us
 
they got that free medical system bro where you wait 6 months to die then get help vs what we go is we just overpay and die @dylangemelli

aint you guys waiting like 12 months in line for procedures? @Pigsy tell us
So true brother looool


Depends on the urgency of the procedure brother and depends on different parts of the country and where you are from.

If urgent like say a bicep pec tricep tear straight away. Open heart surgery straight away doagnostic test for heart lung etc straight away hardly any waiting.
 
they got that free medical system bro where you wait 6 months to die then get help vs what we go is we just overpay and die @dylangemelli

aint you guys waiting like 12 months in line for procedures? @Pigsy tell us
Anything that is life threatening is dealt with swiftly. To have my Bicep Tendon repair I had to have it done privately otherwise was a 2 month wait. I have health insurance but was still left a little out of pocket.

Knee and Hip replacement here in the West can me an 18 month wait time.
 
Anything that is life threatening is dealt with swiftly. To have my Bicep Tendon repair I had to have it done privately otherwise was a 2 month wait. I have health insurance but was still left a little out of pocket.

Knee and Hip replacement here in the West can me an 18 month wait time.
Knee and hip correct would be forever...... That is a nightmare here.
Joint replacements take forever here
 
right now, the CLEERLY test is the most accurate and in depth test you can get.. unfortunately it is not cheap and not covered by insurance to test.. im getting it done in a few months time but that will give the clearest and most accurate picture of what one actually has going on inside


  • The Cleerly analysis is a thorough evaluation of the presence, amount, and type of plaque in the heart’s arteries based on a heart scan, called a coronary computed tomography angiography (CCTA). Images captured in the CCTA exam are processed by Cleerly software - a set of artificial intelligence-based algorithms - and translated into measurements and reports for review by a doctor. The results of the Cleerly analysis give a patient and their doctor a clear understanding of how much plaque (and which types) are in the arteries. This can be used by providers to assess the patient’s risk for heart attack and to provide personalized treatment recommendations, such as lifestyle changes and medication.

    Cleerly can also detect narrowing in the arteries, called stenosis. Stenosis can block blood flow through the arteries and make chest pain and eventual heart failure more likely.




      • Cleerly’s technology is based on over 10 million images from over 30,000 patients gathered over a 15-year-period in multi-center clinical trials. Our proprietary machine-learning algorithms used to analyze the amount and type of plaque are FDA-cleared. Data from six, discrete multi-center clinical trials validate Cleerly as one of the most accurate approaches for detection of coronary artery disease. These trials show that Cleerly has superior accuracy against every current clinical gold standard for heart disease diagnosis.
What are we talking? $3k? Where can I go to get this? I could afford it one time, I t would be worth it for me to know because I abused myself for many years. I have some awesome family genetics and some less awesome.
 
What are we talking? $3k? Where can I go to get this? I could afford it one time, I t would be worth it for me to know because I abused myself for many years. I have some awesome family genetics and some less awesome.
You have to first go to a doctor that can refer you to get it.. if you need a doctor then i can help you with that, just pm me for that info

its not covered by insurance for the most part but it may be for some who have a high risk.. its normally 750-1000 for the test, which is WELL worth it but its only offered in certain locations, bigger cities, which you can look up on their site
 
You have to first go to a doctor that can refer you to get it.. if you need a doctor then i can help you with that, just pm me for that info

its not covered by insurance for the most part but it may be for some who have a high risk.. its normally 750-1000 for the test, which is WELL worth it but its only offered in certain locations, bigger cities, which you can look up on their site
PM sent!
 
right now, the CLEERLY test is the most accurate and in depth test you can get.. unfortunately it is not cheap and not covered by insurance to test.. im getting it done in a few months time but that will give the clearest and most accurate picture of what one actually has going on inside


  • The Cleerly analysis is a thorough evaluation of the presence, amount, and type of plaque in the heart’s arteries based on a heart scan, called a coronary computed tomography angiography (CCTA). Images captured in the CCTA exam are processed by Cleerly software - a set of artificial intelligence-based algorithms - and translated into measurements and reports for review by a doctor. The results of the Cleerly analysis give a patient and their doctor a clear understanding of how much plaque (and which types) are in the arteries. This can be used by providers to assess the patient’s risk for heart attack and to provide personalized treatment recommendations, such as lifestyle changes and medication.

    Cleerly can also detect narrowing in the arteries, called stenosis. Stenosis can block blood flow through the arteries and make chest pain and eventual heart failure more likely.




      • Cleerly’s technology is based on over 10 million images from over 30,000 patients gathered over a 15-year-period in multi-center clinical trials. Our proprietary machine-learning algorithms used to analyze the amount and type of plaque are FDA-cleared. Data from six, discrete multi-center clinical trials validate Cleerly as one of the most accurate approaches for detection of coronary artery disease. These trials show that Cleerly has superior accuracy against every current clinical gold standard for heart disease diagnosis.
cleery test sounds legit, it's a real deal test I've seen it discussed a lot in biohacking circles. @dylangemelli
 
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