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Well done on sponsoring the rest of this log
What is your oestrogen/ai process at these dosages?
He has Aromasin on hand if needed, but he'll be getting bloods done to see how he's managing at this dose and will adjust as necessary to get things dialled in.
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Thanks, i’m just trying to suss out my own self trt and checking out others numbers and what they are doing.
I will have aromison on hand and will do bloods accordingly to monitor.
Cheers man, i’m just trying to suss out my own self trt and just curious at peoples numbers and what they do.
Some people on TRT prefer having their E2 run in the higher end as long as they’re not experiencing any negative sides, mostly to tap into the improved mood and libido benefits. If you're experiencing sides and are looking for ways to get it under control, then you'll either need to lower your dose or implement some form of estrogen control. In saying that, if your primary use of testosterone is solely for TRT purposes, then the use of an AI is not recommended as they also come with their own nasty side effects and prolonged use of them will only lead to problems further down the track. There are other approaches you can take - ie: the use of primo or EQ are effective ways of managing e2 - but then you aren't really on TRT anymore
If you look around the logs here, you'll find that TRT doses are going to vary a quite bit between people - some might not be able to run doses higher than 125mg/wk while others can run doses as high as 250mg/wk. Multiple factors will come into play but those more commonly prone to elevated e2 (and the sides that come with it) are those with a higher bf% as fat tissue contains the aromatase enzyme - this is what converts the testosterone into estrogen through a process known as aromatisation.
In any case, steer clear from an AI and focus on getting the right dose dialled in. If you're on TRT then I assume you're planning to be on it for the rest of your life and you really don't want to be putting more things into your body than you need to be. Lower your dose until you find what works and you'll be fine
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Some people on TRT prefer having their E2 run in the higher end as long as they’re not experiencing any negative sides and are able to tap into the improved mood and libido benefits. If you're experiencing sides and are looking for ways to get it under control, then you'll either need to lower your dose or implement some form of estrogen control. In saying that, if your primary use of testosterone is solely for TRT purposes, then the use of an AI is not recommended as they also come with their own nasty side effects and prolonged use of them will only lead to problems further down the track too. There are other approaches you can take (ie: the use of primo or EQ are effective in managing e2) but then you really aren't on TRT anymore
If you look around the logs here, you'll find that the TRT doses are going to vary a fair bit between people - some aren't able to run higher than 125mg/wk while others can run as high as 250mg/wk. Multiple factors will come into play but those more commonly prone to elevated e2 (and the sides that come with it) are those with a higher bf% as fat tissue contains the aromatase enzyme - this is what converts the testosterone into estrogen through a process known as aromatisation.
In any case, steer clear from an AI and focus on getting the right dose dialled in. If you're on TRT then I assume you're planning to be on it for the rest of your life and you really don't want to be putting more things into your body than you need to be. Lower your dose until you find what works and you'll be fine
AJ
Thanks so much for the advice
And yeah, next step is lowering from 125mg to 100mg , at 125 mg testosterone was above normal ranges but oestrogen got to 240 pmol (<100) only sides are possible pointy nips and maybe some random fatigue, but nothing the affects work/gym performance etc. I’m fairly lean so not sure why i have the high oestrogen.
And as you said i would like to steer clear of adding more and more chemicals to the body, at 44 i’m looking to establish a long term, sustainable protocol.
Your e2 is higher than I'd expect for 125mg/wk. I have a few questions but I don't want to hijack @Robules's thread any further! I'll head on over to yours and have a read brother.
AJ
Some people on TRT prefer having their E2 run in the higher end as long as they’re not experiencing any negative sides, mostly to tap into the improved mood and libido benefits. If you're experiencing sides and are looking for ways to get it under control, then you'll either need to lower your dose or implement some form of estrogen control. In saying that, if your primary use of testosterone is solely for TRT purposes, then the use of an AI is not recommended as they also come with their own nasty side effects and prolonged use of them will only lead to problems further down the track. There are other approaches you can take - ie: the use of primo or EQ are effective ways of managing e2 - but then you aren't really on TRT anymore
If you look around the logs here, you'll find that TRT doses are going to vary a quite bit between people - some might not be able to run doses higher than 125mg/wk while others can run doses as high as 250mg/wk. Multiple factors will come into play but those more commonly prone to elevated e2 (and the sides that come with it) are those with a higher bf% as fat tissue contains the aromatase enzyme - this is what converts the testosterone into estrogen through a process known as aromatisation.
In any case, steer clear from an AI and focus on getting the right dose dialled in. If you're on TRT then I assume you're planning to be on it for the rest of your life and you really don't want to be putting more things into your body than you need to be. Lower your dose until you find what works and you'll be fine
AJ
AJ, well said. If you're on trt, it's generally for life.. and you do not want to rely on needing an AI, they are quite toxic. Adjust your dosage and frequency accordingly and work on leaning out to get them e2 numbers down. 125mg a week got my e2 at 163 with free test at 703.. slightly elevated but I feel good at these levels.
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@Robules I will definitely be following bro!!
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you going to use retatrutide too?
i certainly would do it man. another tip is drop the hgh down a bit. 3iu's too high for what you want IMO
test E and hgh is a good setup in its own right
but this will depend on diet
i would hit the diet hard!
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Im getting better with my food. Ill be trying to track a lot closer and the such.
@Robules bro that isn't a cycle. that like lower then trt lol
why not add some tren and go for it? its 4th and 10 at your own 2 yard line
@Robules nice job on this setup
i think the cycle is smart and very mild
you should get some nice fat burning
bros nice update posting up pic. now you got a good reference
set new goals. i think you should lean up more IMO
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bro should have tren year round. monstro did itHe has just completed an 8 week tren blast - he's cruising now
AJ
Hah, he may have been open to it
Dropping the tren and cruising for the next 12 weeks was part of this sponsorship arrangement as he's only just on-boarded with us from another vendor. We'll get him to a healthy baseline and then structure something a little more exotic for his next blast
AJ
That's it. Gonna do it clean and right! Then I'll have coco pops with Dbol and TrenHah, he may have been open to it
Dropping the tren and cruising for the next 12 weeks was part of this sponsorship arrangement as he's only just on-boarded with us from another vendor. We'll get him to a healthy baseline and then structure something a little more exotic for his next blast
AJ
bro i respects that. let see maybe my mind can be changedHah, he may have been open to it
Dropping the tren and cruising for the next 12 weeks was part of this sponsorship arrangement as he's only just on-boarded with us from another vendor. We'll get him to a healthy baseline and then structure something a little more exotic for his next blast
AJ
Great plan, I love it AJ.Hah, he may have been open to it
Dropping the tren and cruising for the next 12 weeks was part of this sponsorship arrangement as he's only just on-boarded with us from another vendor. We'll get him to a healthy baseline and then structure something a little more exotic for his next blast
AJ
Your in great hands @Robules
good job, that is something to improve
@Robules looing big man
@Robules Great start to log bro.....looking forward to awesome updates.........
Gear has landed. Now let me start by saying I'm not one to car about packaging but the presentation of these items was remarkable. I feel like I've gone yo my local chemist rather than some juice head filling bottles from Temu (not referring to any vendor specifically). There is always a risk of what you put in your body and this level of quality packaging has for once put me at ease.
@UGL OZ . You've set the bar high my friend.
@UGL OZ . You've set the bar high my friend.
Thank you for the kind words brother - it's always awesome receiving feedback like this!
Compliments on the quality packaging is nice to see but the true measure of quality is revealed in the blood results. Would like to make sure you're as equally as happy with those so we'll get some blood work done at the 5 week mark too
Appreciate you @Robules!
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Shogun and Sparta from @UGL OZ look legit and amazing presentation.
@Robules LOVE this look.For new guys reading, please check the Australian Labs eBook here - https://irongorillas.com/australian-labs-underground-guide-2025/
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You have an amazing quality brandThank you for the kind words brother - it's always awesome receiving feedback like this!
Compliments on the quality packaging is nice to see but the true measure of quality is revealed in the blood results. Would like to make sure you're as equally as happy with those so we'll get some blood work done at the 5 week mark too
Appreciate you @Robules!
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Chest day (lunch break)
Bench press 80kg
8 reps
90kg
5 reps
100kg first attempt single reps
80kg
8 reps
8 reps
5 reps
60kg
12 reps
12 reps
Dumbbells Shoulder press 15kg each
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Side laterals 7kg each
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Front raises 7kg each
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Front raise. At peak roll outwards to side then back
12 reps
Triceps rope pull down 18kg
12 reps
24kg
12 reps
12 reps
18kg
14 reps
Single arm Triceps kickbacks 6.5kg
8 reps each
16 reps each
Cable flys 12kg each
Burnout set maximum reps
28 rep
Bench press 80kg
8 reps
90kg
5 reps
100kg first attempt single reps
80kg
8 reps
8 reps
5 reps
60kg
12 reps
12 reps
Dumbbells Shoulder press 15kg each
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Side laterals 7kg each
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Front raises 7kg each
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Front raise. At peak roll outwards to side then back
12 reps
Triceps rope pull down 18kg
12 reps
24kg
12 reps
12 reps
18kg
14 reps
Single arm Triceps kickbacks 6.5kg
8 reps each
16 reps each
Cable flys 12kg each
Burnout set maximum reps
28 rep
Arms pull day
Bicep curls 15kg each
8 rep
8 re p
8 reps
17.5kg
8 reps
8 reps slow
8 reps
12.5kg
6 reps slow
6 reps slow
6 reps slow
Seated rows 60kg close grip
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
10 reps. Slight pinch in lower back.
Lat pull down. Light to be safe 50kg
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Shrugs 30kg dumbbells end of session
12 reps
20 reps
8 reps
Breakfast is a shake. Lunch is chicken wrap
Bicep curls 15kg each
8 rep
8 re p
8 reps
17.5kg
8 reps
8 reps slow
8 reps
12.5kg
6 reps slow
6 reps slow
6 reps slow
Seated rows 60kg close grip
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
10 reps. Slight pinch in lower back.
Lat pull down. Light to be safe 50kg
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Shrugs 30kg dumbbells end of session
12 reps
20 reps
8 reps
Breakfast is a shake. Lunch is chicken wrap
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@Robules I like the training. but clarification, your cardio is what?
and your diet? we need to see some updates to really help you cut down on this stack.
Generally splitting cardio from workout due to time constraints. Ill post updates on that tonight. Lunch is now. A chicken breast wrap. Cheese low fat. Lettuce. Dinner is a beef rice combo.
Once that happens he'll look amazing
you've got plenty of strength and size
would like to see you cut down some body fat next while keeping the muscle/strength. that would be a good challenge
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@Robules My recommendation is get rid of the gloves. Your developing imbalances when you wear gloves, it's cheating, and it helps you grip better, which makes your hands risks and forearms weaker.
@Robules bro you look good on this. pushing some good size
i want to see you push it hardcore and get bigger and heavier
@Robules proud of you man. you are hustling so far on this one
set some fresh goals for the next year
@Robules EVO family has your back on this one
i see a lot of potential in you
i think you are going to get some terrific results
bros you looking good on this. i got mad respect for the good size you got. putting on some strength i can tell already
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@Robules stay on that grind brother! Keep grinding!
I will take this advice on. I dont super agree but suspect you talk from experience. Im trying to keep my hands smooth for @BodyMonster34
Keep pushing
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That meal looks nice but way too many carbs and too low protein. @Robules
Agree. Ill try again with brown rice and I massively under cut the chicken (rarely cook) . Im trying for some simple recipes that are easy to manage without me getting impatient and going to fats.
Pic coming soon. Noticeable changes to my waist.
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You should start cutting carbs a lot, brown rice sure but at least 70% cut in the carbs with more chicken and more healthy fats. @Robules
Thanks
The juggle when I cook it's for my little one too. She eats only what I do. She's on a lot less gear though
Chest
Bench press flat
60kg
10 reps
80kg
10 reps
90kg
5 reps (pussy)
6 reps (still pussy)
5 reps (ugloz get the dbol ready )
80kg
6 reps
4 reps
60kg last set
10 reps
Incline dumbell press 17kg each
10 reps
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Incline close grip press 17kg each.
10 reps. Fuck this is hard
10 reps
10 reps
Shoulder press 17kg each
7 reps .. too heavy
15kg
10 reps
8 reps
12k
10 rep
Side and front raies 7kg each supersets
8 reps x2
Burning in rear of Shoulder. Abandoned shoulder lifts
Triceps rope pull down 15kg
20 reps
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
10kg Burnout drop set rep till failure
Bench press flat
60kg
10 reps
80kg
10 reps
90kg
5 reps (pussy)
6 reps (still pussy)
5 reps (ugloz get the dbol ready )
80kg
6 reps
4 reps
60kg last set
10 reps
Incline dumbell press 17kg each
10 reps
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
Incline close grip press 17kg each.
10 reps. Fuck this is hard
10 reps
10 reps
Shoulder press 17kg each
7 reps .. too heavy
15kg
10 reps
8 reps
12k
10 rep
Side and front raies 7kg each supersets
8 reps x2
Burning in rear of Shoulder. Abandoned shoulder lifts
Triceps rope pull down 15kg
20 reps
12 reps
12 reps
12 reps
10kg Burnout drop set rep till failure
100% man. its like catching a ball with sticky gloves, then trying to catch a ball without sticky gloves.
same concept with weight training. you want to lift raw 90-95% of the time
Im trying gloves free for a bit to see how it goes
Today was pull day but I got interrupted and had to come home so I didn't get to record but loosely
Bicep curls 15kg each
5 sets of 10 reps
Superslow sets x2 at 6 reps
Close grip seated row 70kg
3x12
Wide grip neutral lat pull down 70kg
3x12
30kg each shrug burnout. About 60 reps.
Ill try come back later to redo this one.
I saw a slim (athletic built) lady weighing 60kg at best doing Incline dumbell press at 17kg each (thats my weight) so I'm motivated to push past my comfort zone now... and thanks to hgh and proviron was very hard not to ask her out
Bicep curls 15kg each
5 sets of 10 reps
Superslow sets x2 at 6 reps
Close grip seated row 70kg
3x12
Wide grip neutral lat pull down 70kg
3x12
30kg each shrug burnout. About 60 reps.
Ill try come back later to redo this one.
I saw a slim (athletic built) lady weighing 60kg at best doing Incline dumbell press at 17kg each (thats my weight) so I'm motivated to push past my comfort zone now... and thanks to hgh and proviron was very hard not to ask her out
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The juggle when I cook it's for my little one too. She eats only what I do. She's on a lot less gear though
Are you adding cardio before after not seeing it? @Robules
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nice job man. seeing some nice results from you on this one!
looking really good and improving little by little
I'd have you do a bench press program
Any advice welcome
@Robules if you're interested in a coach and would be willing to commit to a strict training and nutrition program, I'd be happy to onboard you with our affiliated coach: @Gains Man
I have several of our sponsored athletes training with him at the moment
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Thanks man. I think with the 2 year old at the moment it might be a mission. She idolises me so lots of my meals have to suit her for her to eat. Once things calm down in a couple of weeks can we revisit this?@Robules if you're interested in a coach and would be willing to commit to a strict training and nutrition program, I'd be happy to onboard you with our affiliated coach: @Gains Man
I have several of our sponsored athletes training with him at the moment
AJ
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Definitely reading his log and taking notes@Robules if you're interested in a coach and would be willing to commit to a strict training and nutrition program, I'd be happy to onboard you with our affiliated coach: @Gains Man
I have several of our sponsored athletes training with him at the moment
AJ
That is no problem at all bro! If you're looking at logs to get some advice/inspo, here are some of the lads we have working with him at the moment:
- Current Loggers:
- @B3rnie - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/b3rnie-iron-flame-rebound-rebound-bulk-log.103365/
- @R M - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/growth-phase-2025-log-test-eq-tbol-hgh-cycle.104562
- @playfields - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ide-hgh-cycle-log-sponsored-by-ugl-oz.105036/
- @justapotato - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ne-aromasin-cycle-sponsored-by-ugl-oz.105184/
- @SavantSpore - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-trt-and-semaglutide-cycle-with-ugloz.105311/
- @Zachus Backus Maximus - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-eq-deca-hgh-cycle-by-ugl-oz.105313
- We also sponsor the man himself:
Feel free to shoot me an emaill if/when it's something you're ready to pursue and I'll get it arranged for you brother!
AJ
How good is the support from this legend @ugloz is as they say. The man. Or women. Who knows..That is no problem at all bro! If you're looking at logs to get some advice/inspo, here are some of the lads we have working with him at the moment:
You'll be in good company
- Current Loggers:
- @B3rnie - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/b3rnie-iron-flame-rebound-rebound-bulk-log.103365/
- @R M - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/growth-phase-2025-log-test-eq-tbol-hgh-cycle.104562
- @playfields - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ide-hgh-cycle-log-sponsored-by-ugl-oz.105036/
- @justapotato - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ne-aromasin-cycle-sponsored-by-ugl-oz.105184/
- @SavantSpore - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-trt-and-semaglutide-cycle-with-ugloz.105311/
- @Zachus Backus Maximus - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-eq-deca-hgh-cycle-by-ugl-oz.105313
- We also sponsor the man himself:
Feel free to shoot me an emaill if/when it's something you're ready to pursue and I'll get it arranged for you brother!
AJ
My prouns are tren/ba/loneI identify simply as A/J
Thanks legend
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Mate the myth the Legend is a stand out human in this community!
@Robules early in this log
still got a ways to go
i can't wait to see a year from now how you compare
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Nah was more like strain maybe some bad form. Not muscle burn. Like real heat
You could try a 5x5 style program if you want to get some of the core exercise weights up.
bro i once broke back and doc said i couldn't train for year
2 days later i was doing deadlifts. bring it on
you are looking great on this. I'm seeing some improvements already out of you. Definitely look a little leaner. I think you lost a few pounds.
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How'd you manage to deadlift with a broken back bro?
That's insane haha
@BodyMonster34's diet consists exclusively of red meat and tren, it's made him superhuman! They're built different out in Texas brother
AJ
They must be@BodyMonster34's diet consists exclusively of red meat and tren, it's made him superhuman! They're built different out in Texas brother
AJ
red meat tren and lot lizards lol@BodyMonster34's diet consists exclusively of red meat and tren, it's made him superhuman! They're built different out in Texas brother
AJ
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Great session right here brother
@Robules burn outs are the way to go bro! I love tricep pull downs!
@Robules nice update brother
Hey guys.
Push day again but verrry tough night. Maybe 4 hours sleep and way to tired so rather than skip i kept my workout easy
I didn't count reps today each sets was to failure.
Seated chest press 50kg
Seated shoulder press 40kg
Triceps pulldowns.. no idea lol
Used.machines as mega tired and this protects from injury from poor focus.
Push day again but verrry tough night. Maybe 4 hours sleep and way to tired so rather than skip i kept my workout easy
I didn't count reps today each sets was to failure.
Seated chest press 50kg
Seated shoulder press 40kg
Triceps pulldowns.. no idea lol
Used.machines as mega tired and this protects from injury from poor focus.
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