wondering about the side affects of sarms

[italianstallion]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

 

[jerseyshoremuscles]

Looking into peptides. What are your goals, bulk or cut?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

there are sides to everything broly @italianstallion and are you the same italianstallion from back in the day?

tell us more about what YOU want to do? whats your plan?

 

[stevesmi]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

sarms will not cause hair loss man
not sure where you saw that. likely they were using pro hormones @italianstallion

 

[Mobster]

Start by reading the sarms ebook: https://irongorillas.com/

 

[ROIDDERS]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

@italianstallion i haven't seen any proof that sarms shed head hair
where did you see that?
seems to be bro science

 

[Ulter]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

the whole idea of using sarms is to NOT have sides
They aren't like steroids. So whoever told you otherwise is dumb,

 

[ceo]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

@italianstallion bros none of those things you using come with same sides as steroids
hair loss from high dht
so you safe

 

[2Thick]

Hello everyone,


I believe I’m ready to start a cycle with SARMs—specifically LGD-4033, Enclomiphene (as a test base), and/or S4 and MK-677. However, I’m concerned about the potential acceleration of male pattern baldness (MPB) from LGD and Enclo.


I’ve seen mixed opinions and information on forums—some say SARMs cause zero hair loss, while others mention taking Finasteride to counteract it. Most of the research I’ve come across is inconclusive. For example, many sources on Reddit claim SARMs do contribute to MPB or hair thinning, while just as many claim they do not—the same goes for Enclo.


For context, I’ve run MK-677 three times before and responded really well to it.


Just looking for the facts here—any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!

You won't have to worry about those types of side effects. That's literally the reason people go with sarms in the first place. Steroids are the ones that cause these types of side effects.

 

[RoySimpson]

Just make sure youre ordering from our approved sources!!

 

[ballin2504]

Sarms should have this effect on you

 

[Farmboy]

Hey man,

I LOVED LGD back in the day. With a decent diet and consistent stimulus to your muscles, you’ll see fine growth. I used to run 12.5 mg of Clomid ED with it as a “base” and did not experience symptoms of suppression or hormonal interruption. Keep in mind though that experience was a decade ago when I was in my teens and I have NO BLOODWORK to back up that anecdotal experience.

10-15mg was the highest I went and would roll for 12 weeks typically. All the basic health supplements were involved mainly for liver and the cholesterol support and I would follow that with a two week “mini” PCT of clomid and Nolva.

In the first week or so, if my notes are to be believed, I’d put on 3-4lbs of water that would remain steady over the duration of the cycle. Typically I’d see a gain of 7-8lbs with a retention of 4.5-5.5 lbs of tissue that wasn’t water but also included additional fats.

Did that for years until I learned to properly eat haha but LGD has a place in my heart as a “baby’s first dbol”

Enjoy the run brother

 

[Farmboy]

My bad,

I also didn’t lose any hair or have any DHT style side effects during these several runs

Shoulda had this in my main post but I got excited talking about LGD

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Sarms have no to minimal sides bro....make sure you don't overdose.........

 

[25homes]

Umbrella

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

sarms absolutely have side effects. liver toxicity being the biggest.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Yeah sarms definitely have sides dont let someone fool u and think they dont, my ast and alt took a beating on cycle

 

[CookieMuncher]

Tbh man doing any steroid/sarm without using literal testosterone as a base is just not worth it IMO
By weeks 8-12 you are gonna be low on testosterone and most importantly will feel low estrogen symptoms, enclomiphene will help but like its not gonna be sufficient imo.
Lgd probably won’t cause any noticeable hair loss but that should be the least of your worries, drying your body of estrogen is quite unhealthy (being suppressed means low t and low estrogen).
Estrogen is shown to help your brain heal, lubricate your joints, give you energy and better mental wellbeing, its seen as the female hormone but its just as important in men.
You will probably be fine but keep in mind you are gonna feel like shit and you HAVE to keep training or you will lose your gains.
I don't like the idea of feeling shit for some minor muscle gains to me it’s not worth it.
And since you are wanting to do sarms I assume you are just a teen who is new to lifting not understanding how hormones work.
I’ve been in your shoes and once time passes, you grow mentally and physically, you will notice its stupid.

 

[CookieMuncher]

In terms of side effects for lgd:
Expect to feel almost a flu like state for the first week, its called the lgd flu look it up.
Possibly a bit bloated or adding some water weight.
Thats it…
But yea weeks 8-12 isn't gonna be fun at all my friend

 

[LevButlerov]

Tbh man doing any steroid/sarm without using literal testosterone as a base is just not worth it IMO
By weeks 8-12 you are gonna be low on testosterone and most importantly will feel low estrogen symptoms, enclomiphene will help but like its not gonna be sufficient imo.
Lgd probably won’t cause any noticeable hair loss but that should be the least of your worries, drying your body of estrogen is quite unhealthy (being suppressed means low t and low estrogen).
Estrogen is shown to help your brain heal, lubricate your joints, give you energy and better mental wellbeing, its seen as the female hormone but its just as important in men.
You will probably be fine but keep in mind you are gonna feel like shit and you HAVE to keep training or you will lose your gains.
I don't like the idea of feeling shit for some minor muscle gains to me it’s not worth it.
And since you are wanting to do sarms I assume you are just a teen who is new to lifting not understanding how hormones work.
I’ve been in your shoes and once time passes, you grow mentally and physically, you will notice its stupid.

In terms of side effects for lgd:
Expect to feel almost a flu like state for the first week, its called the lgd flu look it up.
Possibly a bit bloated or adding some water weight.
Thats it…
But yea weeks 8-12 isn't gonna be fun at all my friend

@CookieMuncher welcome are you on a cycle now?

 

[CookieMuncher]

@CookieMuncher welcome are you on a cycle now?

I’m always on 100 mg trt and usually with low dose primo or mast E as I got prepubertal gyno.
I was on my 4th week of an lgd 10 mg-20 mg cycle but abandoned it as I had to get a big random wisdom teeth surgery haha and didn’t want to risk liver damage with prescribed codeine and panadol tablets.

It was going really great and I will hop back on in a month!

Thanks for the welcome brother excited to be a part of this community and share knowledge!

 

[LevButlerov]

I’m always on 100 mg trt and usually with low dose primo or mast E as I got prepubertal gyno.
I was on my 4th week of an lgd 10 mg-20 mg cycle but abandoned it as I had to get a big random wisdom teeth surgery haha and didn’t want to risk liver damage with prescribed codeine and panadol tablets.

It was going really great and I will hop back on in a month!

Thanks for the welcome brother excited to be a part of this community and share knowledge!

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[CookieMuncher]

@CookieMuncher 100mgs TRT is a good dose with primo mast, but how about you throw up your TRT log for the EVO family? this way we can work with you on a blast.
You can get big support and easy to do just start a new thread takes 15min to do and 5min to update and you become VIP as well.

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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Hey man, I appreciate you sending this through and I want to be more known in this community and help people make better decisions as well.
I got mr Odin’s mast and test so I’ll post a log of my cycle and review his gear with bloodwork.
Keen for the future with evo and you all

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey man, I appreciate you sending this through and I want to be more known in this community and help people make better decisions as well.
I got mr Odin’s mast and test so I’ll post a log of my cycle and review his gear with bloodwork.
Keen for the future with evo and you all

Very nice we can't wait for another Odin log.