Requesting advice for tren cycle

[Oswold]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

 

[willipede]

Food for bulking.

Test base, and 50mg tren per week actually was a really noticable boost.

If you're adding new compounds only add them 1 at time so you know how you respond

 

[Dreamer]

Alot of what I have been hearing is Tren is actually quite effective at doses as low as 10mg daily, why not start low with a healthy dose of test and titrate up?

Also why straight to tren? there is plenty of other options to see how you go on another compound

 

[Oswold]

Alot of what I have been hearing is Tren is actually quite effective at doses as low as 10mg daily, why not start low with a healthy dose of test and titrate up?

Also why straight to tren? there is plenty of other options to see how you go on another compound

Yeah I can imagine its just like test e at 150mg its has effects but not as noticeable as 500mg.
As for why straight to tren it’s just to see if I can handle it(similar to how sometimes i put a 10kg plate on the bench instead of 5kg which I know to be a safer option ahahhahh). Though I think I will start low

 

[Oswold]

Food for bulking.

Test base, and 50mg tren per week actually was a really noticable boost.

If you're adding new compounds only add them 1 at time so you know how you respond

What do u take for liver support, cholesterol etc…?

 

[Dreamer]

What do u take for liver support, cholesterol etc…?

Tudca/NAC/Milk Thistle for liver
Citus bergamot/Fish oil/ Niacin/ Red yeast rice / Pantethine/ Berberine/ Physilium Husk for lipids are good starts

 

[s.gentz]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

If this is only your second cycle you have no business using tren. You don't have enough experience.
I would go 300/wk test and 150/wk deca. Eat and train to grow.

 

[Oswold]

Tudca/NAC/Milk Thistle for liver
Citus bergamot/Fish oil/ Niacin/ Red yeast rice / Pantethine/ Berberine/ Physilium Husk for lipids are good starts

I heard that one needs to take both Tudca and Nac is that wrong?

 

[Oswold]

If this is only your second cycle you have no business using tren. You don't have enough experience.
I would go 300/wk test and 2150/wk deca. Eat and train to grow.

Yeah ur right, the alternative was test + dbol. But I was hesitant on wheter to take that or deca

 

[Dreamer]

I heard that one needs to take both Tudca and Nac is that wrong?

I wouldnt say NEED, but youll get the most liver protection from doing so, if I had to choose one itd be tudca though, I do agree with @s.gentz however - why not try some NPP?

 

[s.gentz]

Yeah ur right, I’m a bit crazy so until I an heart attack or end up in the hospital I am likely to go on. But I hope for me I will follow this advice

This is not a good attitude to have. It's a great way to hurt yourself.
You don't mention your age.
How old are you?
How many years training?
What does diet look like?

 

[Oswold]

I wouldnt say NEED, but youll get the most liver protection from doing so, if I had to choose one itd be tudca though, I do agree with @s.gentz however - why not try some

Thats likely what I will do this tren may be just for curiosity and to prepare for a later ccyle but I never know my thoughts in three months after I have finished my cruise

 

[Dreamer]

Thats likely what I will do this tren may be just for curiosity and to prepare for a later ccyle but I never know my thoughts in three months after I have finished my cruise

I have yet to run tren, or many of the orals, I would personally like to squeeze whatever I can out of the compounds that dont harm me half as much, surely you want to run many happy cycles rather than one or two that end in tears?

 

[Oswold]

This is not a good attitude to have. It's a great way to hurt yourself.
You don't mention your age.
How old are you?
How many years training?
What does diet look like?

Well ur gonna beat me up ahahah I’m 20. I already know that I shouldn’t even think about doing this ahhaha.
My diet has been good so far I’m 78kg and when i started my test e I was 72kg(started at the end of august). Training in the gym not for long but in general ive been training for calsitenics and those stuff for 3 years

 

[Dreamer]

Well ur gonna beat me up ahahah I’m 20. I already know that I shouldn’t even think about doing this ahhaha.
My diet has been good so far I’m 78kg and when i started my test e I was 72kg(started at the end of august). Training in the gym not for long but in general ive been training for calsitenics and those stuff for 3 years

20 isnt the issue, your mindset is I think

 

[Oswold]

I have yet to run tren, or many of the orals, I would personally like to squeeze whatever I can out of the compounds that dont harm me half as much, surely you want to run many happy cycles rather than one or two that end in tears?

Ur right u wil probably live a longer and healthier life than me ahhaha. I’m just a madman

 

[Dreamer]

Just through text, you seem exactly the type of person who will get the crazy mental sides just saying

 

[Oswold]

20 isnt the issue, your mindset is I think

I know I know as I’ve already said I’m prepared to whatever consequences there will be on my body

 

[Oswold]

Just through text, you seem exactly the type of person who will get the crazy mental sides just saying

Well I consider myself a chill guy I dont think I will experience roid rage since I’m already nuts myself. Anyways ur a nice guy others would have told me to fuck off already ahhahah

 

[s.gentz]

Well ur gonna beat me up ahahah I’m 20. I already know that I shouldn’t even think about doing this ahhaha.
My diet has been good so far I’m 78kg and when i started my test e I was 72kg(started at the end of august). Training in the gym not for long but in general ive been training for calsitenics and those stuff for 3 years

You have 0 business using any drugs. Your body/brain are not fully developed. Messing with your hormones is a terrible idea. Using tren at your age is even worse. It carries mental sides that will mess up your development.

 

[Oswold]

You have 0 business using any drugs. Your body/brain are not fully developed. Messing with your hormones is a terrible idea. Using tren at your age is even worse. It carries mental sides that will mess up your development.

Well ur right cant say anything to that. Indeed sometimes I wonder if those instagram influencers that run insane are alright

 

[willipede]

Stay away from 19-nors like tren, deca.

They give the most suppression, so higher chances of permanently fucking ya life.

You've already done 500mgs of test cycle but im guessing you probably never even got bloods drawn?

 

[Oswold]

Stay away from 19-nors like tren, deca.

They give the most suppression, so higher chances of permanently fucking ya life.

You've already done 500mgs of test cycle but im guessing you probably never even got bloods drawn?

yeah I did blood work but only of Total Test and free test. The parameters were "normal", at least considering the 500mg/week of test. I never did the complete lood test only because I didnt have enough money. I will though if I take heavier things such as tren

 

[willipede]

yeah I did blood work but only of Total Test and free test. The parameters were "normal", at least considering the 500mg/week of test. I never did the complete lood test only because I didnt have enough money. I will though if I take heavier things such as tren

Bro if you dont have money for proper bloods, you dont have enough money to be doing gear

 

[s.gentz]

I did blood work but only of Total Test and free test.

These two number are prob some of the most unimportant when considering steroids. As @willipede said, if you can't afford bloods you have 0 business using gear.

 

[LevButlerov]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

Yeah I can imagine its just like test e at 150mg its has effects but not as noticeable as 500mg.
As for why straight to tren it’s just to see if I can handle it(similar to how sometimes i put a 10kg plate on the bench instead of 5kg which I know to be a safer option ahahhahh). Though I think I will start low

You've been here some time @Oswold I checked your post.
Tren is normally stacked with a base of test in the 200-300mg range but you are jumping way too fast so before anyone can give you a clean plan you need to start a proper log because we know nothing about your food training or bloods and tren only works when all that is dialed in. 15min to start one.

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[rizzlekdizzle]

Tren for only your second cycle is crazy bro.
Why not throw in an oral like var instead? or Mast? Even a bit of deca for bulking?
tren should be kept for after you have a few cycles under your belt bro.

 

[stevesmi]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

With trenbolone even 50 mg up or down makes a big difference.

 

[ceo]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

Bros Trenbolone one of the best for bulking. Whoever told you it not good for bulking is an idiot.

 

[Ulter]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

Hands down N2guard is going to be your best option. Trenbolone really hits the hell out of all your organs.

 

[R.AP]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

Tren has a time and place brother and it's not outside of a competition peak, and even then not for all.


Best bulking practice is one that's sustainable. The philosophy is that the longer you stay healthier, the longer you can stay on, which is where the gains are found. It's why a combination of well-tolerated compounds (for your individual response) + a comprehensive health protocol is the way to go.


If this is only your first cycle brother I'd recommend you to have a look at the following PED structure:

Test
Well tolerated DHT (Primo or Mast), or EQ
GH

Run this for as long as your bloodwork and echo's look good. Look after your health and hydration.

You'll get so much more out of running something like this for a lot longer period than blasting 19-nors for a shorter period.

Health + training + nutrition + pharma. It's all gotta work together. Might be worth spending your money on a coach brother!

@LevButlerov

 

[Mobster]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

I'd wanna know more about you before advising. Otherwise it's a bit random

 

[s.gentz]

Tren has a time and place brother and it's not outside of a competition peak, and even then not for all.

@Oswold This!

 

[ROIDDERS]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

trenbolone should be flexible. that is why tren ace is wise. you can start and stop it

 

[2Thick]

Just wanted to ask what do u stack tren with and what are ur doses. Also what would u reccomend to get for liver support and everything else when running tren?
(I already did a test e cycle 500mg/week with 0 side effects and now I wanted it to risk it a bit on my next cycle. I heard tren in not used for bulking but I wanted to hear ur opinions first)

when it comes to tren. it can be rough with sides. the more stuff you stack with it the worse the sides so i would go more mild on test, maybe add some light tbol or var

 

[ballin2504]

N2guard is perfect for liver support and all organ support