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Test base, whatever test you can tolerate without an AI. We don't use AIs, they're outdated and unsafe. All AAS accrete tissue at about the same rate so comes to personal choice. Don't use another androstane because why would you? You already using testosterone. EQ is plausibly renal toxic and adds nothing else that you can't already get from other AAS. Masteron, primo, nandrolone and anavar are safe bets. Pick one and use testosterone with it. Grow.
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u never take an AI?
Yeah I have cut all ai out as well.
Best to balance with your primo /mast whatever.
Or run test at a level you don't have the sides
Best to balance with your primo /mast whatever.
Or run test at a level you don't have the sides
Man i love EQ!
I just want to say that this is a great thread. I think all of you should be super stoked at your responses. I can see everyone is honest and transparent and gives advice based on personal experience. I like to see that everyone prioritises training/nutrition -> PED's at doses that elicit a response and manageable effects -> choosing protocols that are simple and goal focused -> discouraging the use of AI's and instead promoting bloods, understanding your e2 responses/sensitivity and then asking the question? Am i taking too much? Am i taking the right combination of PED's? - If not what should i be taking to manage this effect?
Im not experienced at all, but just having a beginner log and reading all your responses is teaching me so much.
Im not experienced at all, but just having a beginner log and reading all your responses is teaching me so much.
100 percent on above.
I have ai on hand but I try and design my cycles around it where I won’t need to use them. My lipids have improved out of sight since I stopped using an ai
@rizzlekdizzle any closer to thinking about what you are going to run for next cycle
I have ai on hand but I try and design my cycles around it where I won’t need to use them. My lipids have improved out of sight since I stopped using an ai
@rizzlekdizzle any closer to thinking about what you are going to run for next cycle
Definitely the EVO community is a good source of information for anyone as there is so much misinformation out now regarding peds which can be harmful. I’m am lucky to had the right coach who was worried more about my health and longevity!
Yeah I’m thinking winter bulk with test and deca - will prob keep the test on the lower side like you guys suggest to keep the need for an ai at a minimum. I have had in range e2 at 300T in the past - so somewhere around that with 400 deca a week should be a good cycle with time for a summer cut/lean cycle with primo/eq
Keep an eye on prolactin levels. Suggest supplementing some P5P , and if Deca gives you some issues with libido. proviron is a good additional non toxic oral you can run the whole cycle. Also lowers SHBG , its not an ai but it will have some assistance in keeping your e2 in check as it binds to the aromatase
Oh yes forgot about proviron - have done that with a previous deca cycle will definitely add that
Proviron provides the least negative approach to add dht balance to dhn which i believe is the main cause of the old deca willy lol
Winter bulk,test and deca,simple and effective.classic that has worked for decades.
Also I take a daily 5mg cialis
