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Porky21

Porky21

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Hey all, I’m wanting to run my first cycle now I’ve done lots of research and I’m thinking about taking just test E or maybe test & primo because fuck it why not. I know arimidex is handy to have just incase but I’m wondering who everyone uses as their trusted go too in this forum! And also any suggestions or pros and cons would be handy! Been training 3 years natural in the gym haven’t reached my natural plateau but I’m wanting to go for ifbb in 3-4 years after having. Completed in natural federations already
 
Porky21 said:
Hey all, I’m wanting to run my first cycle now I’ve done lots of research and I’m thinking about taking just test E or maybe test & primo because fuck it why not. I know arimidex is handy to have just incase but I’m wondering who everyone uses as their trusted go too in this forum! And also any suggestions or pros and cons would be handy! Been training 3 years natural in the gym haven’t reached my natural plateau but I’m wanting to go for ifbb in 3-4 years after having. Completed in natural federations already
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First cycle should be test only so you see how your body reacts. You need to have an AI on hand like Arimidex or Aromasin and you also need organ protection like N2Guard. PCT should also be in hand before you start.
500mg/wk test would be a great start. You can use any of our sponsors int he banners at the top. They are all trusted.

All this being said, you've only been training of three years and admittedly your not at your natural limit. You really should stay natty as long as you can. There is no reason to rush. Bodybuilding is a marathon.
 
age/height/weight/body fat?

i understand you "want" to run a cycle but that certainly does not mean you should.. .we need more facts to know about whether you should even consider it or not.. not to mention, if you have not reached your natural limtis, then this is a horrible idea.. let me ask you this.. what exactly are you gong to gain by becoming ifbb? this is not a dick question, its a reality one.. are you going to become a millionaire? and even then, is it worth risking long term damage for ? or is it just to say you are ifbb?
 
Porky21 said:
Hey all, I’m wanting to run my first cycle now I’ve done lots of research and I’m thinking about taking just test E or maybe test & primo because fuck it why not. I know arimidex is handy to have just incase but I’m wondering who everyone uses as their trusted go too in this forum! And also any suggestions or pros and cons would be handy! Been training 3 years natural in the gym haven’t reached my natural plateau but I’m wanting to go for ifbb in 3-4 years after having. Completed in natural federations already
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@Porky21 welcome to the EVO family! we love seeing guys that want to go for an IFBB card, this is the place for you.

But first cycles are key to future growth, they set the table for your future IFBB card. To really dial in your first cycle, we shouldn't guess! we need to learn more about you, so before we talk cycles with you, we need to know more about you.
Please start a NEW thread with your pre cycle log journal, post diet training cardio sleep history and we will guide you into a full cycle and IFBB card.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle Training Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
 
dylangemelli said:
age/height/weight/body fat?

i understand you "want" to run a cycle but that certainly does not mean you should.. .we need more facts to know about whether you should even consider it or not.. not to mention, if you have not reached your natural limtis, then this is a horrible idea.. let me ask you this.. what exactly are you gong to gain by becoming ifbb? this is not a dick question, its a reality one.. are you going to become a millionaire? and even then, is it worth risking long term damage for ? or is it just to say you are ifbb?
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I want to take the challenge of ifbb competing
 
LevButlerov said:
@Porky21 welcome to the EVO family! we love seeing guys that want to go for an IFBB card, this is the place for you.

But first cycles are key to future growth, they set the table for your future IFBB card. To really dial in your first cycle, we shouldn't guess! we need to learn more about you, so before we talk cycles with you, we need to know more about you.
Please start a NEW thread with your pre cycle log journal, post diet training cardio sleep history and we will guide you into a full cycle and IFBB card.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle Training Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
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Log posted
 
definitely include all your information and your new log
that will help us understand your goals
 
Just looked at your new log
I will post in there
 
definitely put up the log as you did
it's going to be a good one
 
A+++ job on the new log
we will support you
 
nice to hear you put a log up
i'm gonna go there now
 
we will support your goals of going pro
that is a good ambition
 
I love your attitude so far
you're gonna have a fantastic log
 
Porky21 said:
Hey all, I’m wanting to run my first cycle now I’ve done lots of research and I’m thinking about taking just test E or maybe test & primo because fuck it why not. I know arimidex is handy to have just incase but I’m wondering who everyone uses as their trusted go too in this forum! And also any suggestions or pros and cons would be handy! Been training 3 years natural in the gym haven’t reached my natural plateau but I’m wanting to go for ifbb in 3-4 years after having. Completed in natural federations already
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I'm 35 and just started running gear last year and I'm also chasing an ifbb pro card, time is irrelevant doesn't matter how long it takes, if you haven't reached your genetic limit and true potential I would advise against running anything.
 
Porky21 said:
Hey all, I’m wanting to run my first cycle now I’ve done lots of research and I’m thinking about taking just test E or maybe test & primo because fuck it why not. I know arimidex is handy to have just incase but I’m wondering who everyone uses as their trusted go too in this forum! And also any suggestions or pros and cons would be handy! Been training 3 years natural in the gym haven’t reached my natural plateau but I’m wanting to go for ifbb in 3-4 years after having. Completed in natural federations already
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Test only
 
s.gentz said:
500mg/wk test would be a great start.
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500mg/week is more than needed on a first cycle. 300mg/week would suffice as a start, then increase up as you assess how you respond.
 
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