Does HCG expire during delivery?

[869Pando]

When ordering gear online together with some HCG, shouldn't the HCG expire on arrival?

From my understanding, it degrades already after 2-3 days outside the fridge. Delivery from UG labs takes up to 14 days and obviously they don't keep it refrigerated during transport.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

When ordering gear online together with some HCG, shouldn't the HCG expire on arrival?

From my understanding, it degrades already after 2-3 days outside the fridge. Delivery from UG labs takes up to 14 days and obviously they don't keep it refrigerated during transport.

@869Pando depends on who you're ordering from bro
can hcg degrade? yes, will yours degrade? maybe

and btw why do you need HCG? whats your cycle situation, last post I see from you is talking about straight food nothing else.

 

[869Pando]

@869Pando depends on who you're ordering from bro
can hcg degrade? yes, will yours degrade? maybe

and btw why do you need HCG? whats your cycle situation, last post I see from you is talking about straight food nothing else.

I'm not on any cycle right now and never was. But I'm considering my first cycle. For now I'm just researching.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention sources here? But there is this one shop I'm considering eventually.

 

[s.gentz]

From my understanding, it degrades already after 2-3 days outside the fridge. Delivery from UG labs takes up to 14 days and obviously they don't keep it refrigerated during transport.

It will be fine as long as it's not reconstituted. Once reconstituted it needs to be kept cold.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention sources here? But there is this one shop I'm considering eventually.

I hope it is one of the shops in the banners above. They are approved sources.

 

[Mobster]

If that was true it'd never work. You'd literally have to be standing next to the chemist when it was made

 

[Jonroberts88]

Ive gotten hgh shipped all the way from India to the US which tool several weeks. I didn’t notice any difference in potency between that and the hgh I get from a compounding pharmacy shipped from Texas to where I live in Florida. I don’t think hcg is anywhere near as fragile as something like hgh

 

[dylangemelli]

its completely unnecessary to use hcg as it is... unless you are needing it for a fertility protocol, it is just unnecessary.. often misunderstood and highly misused...

 

[Mobster]

Stevesmi, Dylan and myself all agree. It's mostly used, post cycle, to plump your balls while you still recover from suppressed fertility. Off cycle it can be a part of, as above, a fertility protocol. Are peptides etc affected by heat? Yes. But that's over-rated. As I said above if it was that fragile it'd and all peptides etc would never work.

 

[stevesmi]

put peptides in the fridge as soon as you get them

once reconstituted it will degrade quickly out of the fridge, but before it will be fine in the mail

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I'm not on any cycle right now and never was. But I'm considering my first cycle. For now I'm just researching.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention sources here? But there is this one shop I'm considering eventually.

@869Pando if you want to do your first cycle, you should have a cycle pre LOG first
without a log, starting a cycle is dangerous, and you're asking about HCG here and you havent started a cycle, why then?

 

[869Pando]

@869Pando if you want to do your first cycle, you should have a cycle pre LOG first
without a log, starting a cycle is dangerous, and you're asking about HCG here and you havent started a cycle, why then?

I'm asking about it as researching steroids is actually quite hard and there are a ton of questions i have. All sources of information claim something else. I guess i will start a pre cycle log then.

 

[869Pando]

Stevesmi, Dylan and myself all agree. It's mostly used, post cycle, to plump your balls while you still recover from suppressed fertility. Off cycle it can be a part of, as above, a fertility protocol. Are peptides etc affected by heat? Yes. But that's over-rated. As I said above if it was that fragile it'd and all peptides etc would never work.

May i ask why exactly you guys don't recommend to use it during cycle? From my research all sources i found claim to use it to some extend during cycle, to keep your balls from shrinking and thereby restart production after the cycle quicker. I'm not planning to cruise afterwards, but get off fpr the time being.

 

[Mobster]

May i ask why exactly you guys don't recommend to use it during cycle? From my research all sources i found claim to use it to some extend during cycle, to keep your balls from shrinking and thereby restart production after the cycle quicker. I'm not planning to cruise afterwards, but get off fpr the time being.

No. Plump balls does NOT 'thereby' mean restarting quicker post cycle. It just means plump balls. If you think about it it makes no logical sense. It'd mean you are already restarting while still on. Never happens. SOME blood and sperm etc tests WILL show, in a lucky few SOME indications for test and or sperm production but deffo lower than off and fully recovered. Stevesmi has written multiple times on how you are STILL suppressed (I agree). Others, inc many members here, have literally written as to how their sexual partners have noticed smaller balls and asked 'what can I do?'. Now that's when, for some, HCG MIGHT have a place (some do get seriously bad smaller balls). But it is temporary usually. It's also why we recommend using a test booster (it will not help with that on cycle) like HCGenerate on cycle. But 100% will help in a PCT


I've never had any serious shrinkage from my cycles (all a 1000mg or less bar 1) and don't care about fertility at 59. I've NEVER used HCG.

As per previous replies it can, when all esters have cleared play a part in so-called baby making protocols. However, if you're really that worried avoid using PEDs or, at the very least, stay off as much as possible (so no cruising and blasting) and use sensible LOW doses.

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

as long as e2 is in range, the testicular atrophy should be minimal. high e2 usually is the culprit.

 

[Jonroberts88]

I got my wife pregnant while on a cruise of 200 mgs of test blasting hcg about 10000 a week. You need to take a shit ton of hcg on cycle to be fertile

 

[stevesmi]

May i ask why exactly you guys don't recommend to use it during cycle? From my research all sources i found claim to use it to some extend during cycle, to keep your balls from shrinking and thereby restart production after the cycle quicker. I'm not planning to cruise afterwards, but get off fpr the time being.

anyone who claims that hcg helps you recover quicker or restart production is either A: very ignorant on how the HPTA works or B: just trying to make a commission selling you hcg

hcg is a hormone, it works by mimicking LH thereby signaling your pituitary glands that there are too many hormones present. hence you do NOT recover quicker, you actually will delay recovery. you might as well just run some test during pct if that is your strategy for recovery, because it makes just as much sense. but don't just take my word for it, run your own bloodwork. you will clearly notice when you use hcg your LH and FSH dives while on it. crazy huh? again because it is MIMICKING the hormone, hence your body will have no reason to produce it.

notice all the guys out there pushing hcg in pct have 1 thing in common. they are all on TRT lol. that should tell you a little something about their strategy. i have heard absurd theories including things like "hcg primes your HPTA" and "hcg kickstarts production". imagine if such a thing was possible, then everyone on trt could just run hcg and come off at their leisure and be fine

now ask yourself why your balls plump up on hcg, its very simple. your leydig cells are being tricked into thinking there is LH being fed. another thing you will notice is you feel better when using hcg in pct, yes because your estrogen and testosterone will rise on it... however on the backside you are signaling your pituitary glands to stop making hormones. its like having a hose with an attachment and cutting a hole into the hose and putting water in it, all while you shut off the faucet. yeah it will work temporarily but eventually when you do want to turn on the main faucet you are gonna have a helluva leak on your hand and wish you wouldn't have did what you did.

not to mention hcg also causes a spike in estorgen and progesterone. this will further delay recovery since those hormones run inverse to testosterone. bottom line is if you want to recovery properly do NOT use hcg in pct ever. stick with clomid, nolva and natty supplements like hcgenerate

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I'm asking about it as researching steroids is actually quite hard and there are a ton of questions i have. All sources of information claim something else. I guess i will start a pre cycle log then.

@869Pando waiting for your Pre-Cycle log bro
you putting it up now?

 

[869Pando]

@869Pando waiting for your Pre-Cycle log bro
you putting it up now?

I wanted to put it up yesterday, but I was really busy yesterday. I will do it either today or tomorrow.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

I wanted to put it up yesterday, but I was really busy yesterday. I will do it either today or tomorrow.

@869Pando looking forward to it bro
was checking your other threads guessing you're doing all clean food so want to see your diet

 

[Cursed333]

Hey guys wondering if I can just piggy back off this thread instead of starting a new one,

would HCG lose it's potency if the BAC water used to mix it is older than 1 month? (general BAC water expiry after being opened is 1 month)

got 3 bottles of HCG & 1 bottle of BAC water from AJ, opened the BAC + first vial of HCG, mixed accordingly, started it 500mg 3x per week worked fucking wonders, then after about 6 weeks finished that vial, came to start the second vial about 2 weeks in & I've lost all gains from the first vial, boys shrunk up again completely, I'm about half way through & nothing has changed in my life / regime to trigger this besides introducing the new vial of HCG.. Not sure if I want to mix the BAC with the 3rd vial I have incase it's just wasting it?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys wondering if I can just piggy back off this thread instead of starting a new one,

would HCG lose it's potency if the BAC water used to mix it is older than 1 month? (general BAC water expiry after being opened is 1 month)

got 3 bottles of HCG & 1 bottle of BAC water from AJ, opened the BAC + first vial of HCG, mixed accordingly, started it 500mg 3x per week worked fucking wonders, then after about 6 weeks finished that vial, came to start the second vial about 2 weeks in & I've lost all gains from the first vial, boys shrunk up again completely, I'm about half way through & nothing has changed in my life / regime to trigger this besides introducing the new vial of HCG.. Not sure if I want to mix the BAC with the 3rd vial I have incase it's just wasting it?

@Cursed333 its not the HCG to be fair its the HCG lol I know I know its confusing
but HCG is ESTROGENIC so it should only be used for a LIMITED time bro

thats why this is happening to you, its usually 1-2 weeks max as a kick, what are you using it for?
please be specific and clarify for us your situation, why are you using hcg? what is your cycle? whats your plan?

read why hcg is estrogenic
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

 

[stevesmi]

i would not use bac water that old

 

[e2]

yes everything out there expires
when in doubt just buy new stuff

 

[2Thick]

you don't want to use old bac water anyway
it isn't a good idea

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

definitely always keep your stuff in the fridge
that will keep it lasting longer

 

[Wootoom]

even before you reconstitute
it's important to keep your stuff cool and out of the Sun

 

[JasonPriest]

definitely buying new stuff
there's no need to take the chance

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro put up a log
we would love to follow you and see how you do

 

[Quadsweep]

log this one for sure
that will be the one way to find out

 

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[HybridLabs]

Peptides are much more resilient than people think

 

[Mobster]

The water should be fine. On the other hand are you just trying to save a few bucks?

 

[NEIL_LABPEPTIDES]

When ordering gear online together with some HCG, shouldn't the HCG expire on arrival?

From my understanding, it degrades already after 2-3 days outside the fridge. Delivery from UG labs takes up to 14 days and obviously they don't keep it refrigerated during transport.

The HCG product in vial and It is a freeze-dried concentrated product, so it will not expire at room temperature. Do not worry.

 

[Cursed333]

@Cursed333 its not the HCG to be fair its the HCG lol I know I know its confusing
but HCG is ESTROGENIC so it should only be used for a LIMITED time bro

thats why this is happening to you, its usually 1-2 weeks max as a kick, what are you using it for?
please be specific and clarify for us your situation, why are you using hcg? what is your cycle? whats your plan?

read why hcg is estrogenic
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-dangers-exposed
https://www.evolutionary.org/hcg-is-dangerous-part-2

haha that was confusing, then it was still confusing.

Using it as I've been on TRT for near 2 years now, looking to make babies later in the year & my testicles were living in my stomach so wanted to get that working again, it worked wonders with the first vial, all the way to the end of it, almost 3 injections into the new vial & it was like I was 'physically' at my pre-hcg stage!

 

[Cursed333]

The water should be fine. On the other hand are you just trying to save a few bucks?

no not at all, just didn't think it had a 30 day shelf life till I started reading into it, I only used 2ml & then 6 weeks later another 2ml

 

[ceo]

Bros everything expires at some point
i would buy new things and start over

 

[ROIDDERS]

you won't go wrong with a log journal
this way we understand fully what you're trying to do here

 

[chesty]

problem is all peptides are very sensitive
even being exposed to heat or light for a few seconds can destroy them

 

[Ulter]

get a log Journal up
tell us exactly what your plan is with hcg

 

[LevButlerov]

haha that was confusing, then it was still confusing.

Using it as I've been on TRT for near 2 years now, looking to make babies later in the year & my testicles were living in my stomach so wanted to get that working again, it worked wonders with the first vial, all the way to the end of it, almost 3 injections into the new vial & it was like I was 'physically' at my pre-hcg stage!

@Cursed333 its confusing because we are forced to give generic answers, as we dont know anything about you bro
please help us understand you and your TRT by sharing, how to share?
please start a NEW thread with your TRT LOG journal, diet training history and goals like recovery and we can help you with your TRT recovery log and we can guide you with this process, but no log very hard to guide you.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
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[ballin2504]

I’d start a new thread for a log

 

[25homes]

Hey guys wondering if I can just piggy back off this thread instead of starting a new one,

would HCG lose it's potency if the BAC water used to mix it is older than 1 month? (general BAC water expiry after being opened is 1 month)

got 3 bottles of HCG & 1 bottle of BAC water from AJ, opened the BAC + first vial of HCG, mixed accordingly, started it 500mg 3x per week worked fucking wonders, then after about 6 weeks finished that vial, came to start the second vial about 2 weeks in & I've lost all gains from the first vial, boys shrunk up again completely, I'm about half way through & nothing has changed in my life / regime to trigger this besides introducing the new vial of HCG.. Not sure if I want to mix the BAC with the 3rd vial I have incase it's just wasting it?

Just use it