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Suspended ODINLABS - NEW VENDOR INTRODUCTION

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Touchdown 1 of 2 from the boys.

Thanks @ODINLABS

Looks amazing.
 

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Hey ODIN,
Old account but I'd love to take advantage of your Christmas sale -- still taking some new customers?
He had reopened to everyone last week for the sale. I would politely message him and see how you go 💪
 
🎄YULE (Christmas) SALE!!🎁

AS ODIN IS ABOUT TO ANNOUNCE YULE.
IT IS NEARLY UPON US
WE REFLECT ON THE YEAR AND READY OURSELVES TO SLAY OUR ENEMIES AND SLAY THE GYM!!!!!💪


TEST E - 10 650
TEST E - 5 325
TREN H - 80 EACH
T3 - 100 EACH
CLEN - 100 EACH

STAY SAFE AND BE MERRY DURING THESE TIMES!!!!!

ODIN
Don’t forget to take advantage of our sale!
 
Just want to say thank you and I appreciate the perfect service and world class product!

Made a couple orders now with ODINLABS and both times have been slam dunks...

Currently just cruising on test e but will add in a bit of mast e before the new year looking forward to it!
 

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Don’t forget to take advantage of our sale!

Just want to say thank you and I appreciate the perfect service and world class product!

Made a couple orders now with ODINLABS and both times have been slam dunks...

Currently just cruising on test e but will add in a bit of mast e before the new year looking forward to it!
Enjoy it brother, you have the best of the best right there from @ODINLABS
 
Just want to say thank you and I appreciate the perfect service and world class product!

Made a couple orders now with ODINLABS and both times have been slam dunks...

Currently just cruising on test e but will add in a bit of mast e before the new year looking forward to it!
Big fella’s mast e is Fkn legit.

You’ll be dry AF and getting compliments on your Vascularity in no time
 
Just want to say thank you and I appreciate the perfect service and world class product!

Made a couple orders now with ODINLABS and both times have been slam dunks...

Currently just cruising on test e but will add in a bit of mast e before the new year looking forward to it!
Nice touchdown, @ODINLABS product is legit man
 
As promised, here is my touch down picture from Odin and a review.

Im a new customer and after seeing all the great reviews on the quality of his products I decided to jump on his current sale and grab myself 5 x Test E to try as my usual supplier is running low on Test. Communication and all of the ordering process was very straight forward. Odin was helpful and respectful and I had some of the best service I’ve had from a vendor. Treat the vendor with respect and they’ll treat you with respect, it’s as simple as that. Highly recommend Odin based on what I’ve seen so far

As soon as I start some of his test I’ll do a blood test and post the results up here, if they’re as good as my normal supplier I’ll 100% be ordering a lot more from Odin.

Thanks again brother, appreciate it👌🏼

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As promised, here is my touch down picture from Odin and a review.

Im a new customer and after seeing all the great reviews on the quality of his products I decided to jump on his current sale and grab myself 5 x Test E to try as my usual supplier is running low on Test. Communication and all of the ordering process was very straight forward. Odin was helpful and respectful and I had some of the best service I’ve had from a vendor. Treat the vendor with respect and they’ll treat you with respect, it’s as simple as that. Highly recommend Odin based on what I’ve seen so far

As soon as I start some of his test I’ll do a blood test and post the results up here, if they’re as good as my normal supplier I’ll 100% be ordering a lot more from Odin.

Thanks again brother, appreciate it👌🏼

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Thats a sight for sore eyes 😍

@Odin products are the best out there!! Enjoy brother 🙏

Cant wait to see the blood work results 💪
 
As promised, here is my touch down picture from Odin and a review.

Im a new customer and after seeing all the great reviews on the quality of his products I decided to jump on his current sale and grab myself 5 x Test E to try as my usual supplier is running low on Test. Communication and all of the ordering process was very straight forward. Odin was helpful and respectful and I had some of the best service I’ve had from a vendor. Treat the vendor with respect and they’ll treat you with respect, it’s as simple as that. Highly recommend Odin based on what I’ve seen so far

As soon as I start some of his test I’ll do a blood test and post the results up here, if they’re as good as my normal supplier I’ll 100% be ordering a lot more from Odin.

Thanks again brother, appreciate it👌🏼

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You’ll love the T250 it’s some of the best out there 🥳
 
Management decision: @ODINLABS Odin labs has been suspended for multiple TOS violations.

on our moderator view:
We will not allow anyone to abuse EVO family brothers and continually violate our TOS.
Loggers for Odin please find another sponsor.
 
Management decision: @ODINLABS Odin labs has been suspended for multiple TOS violations.

on our moderator view:
We will not allow anyone to abuse EVO family brothers and continually violate our TOS.
That's a bit harsh
 
It’s not a debate, it’s an announcement. Please refrain from further discussion about this.
Aren’t we suppose to discuss stuff or is it more of a once decided, that’s final?

To educate ourselves, where are the ToS? I don’t recall seeing or agreeing to anything when joining?

I guess it would be good to see them and the same for vendors who are new to evo etc
 
Aren’t we suppose to discuss stuff or is it more of a once decided, that’s final?

To educate ourselves, where are the ToS? I don’t recall seeing or agreeing to anything when joining?

I guess it would be good to see them and the same for vendors who are new to evo etc
With all due respect @CypherOCE you are bias as one of his loggers, and we understand that.
I personally follow your log and have a lot of respect for you. However, as I stated above this is an announcement not a debate. Please refrain from posting here again.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/odinlabs-new-vendor-introduction.102266/post-1910059

Furthermore, a word of caution to all vendors. Being in the EVO family is a privilege, not a right. We expect all vendors and members to follow our TOS and spirit of the EVO family.
Abuse of EVO brothers will not be tolerated.
 
For the perspective of user understanding & safety - can we please understand the TOS violation? So that we can determine / build our own view on the issue as to whether we would continue to use Odin (I have used them lots in past and view their products as high quality).

Not looking to debate the issue @Eddie Haskell - just think it would be helpful to the community to understand the issue better versus leaving us somewhat in dark to speculate? Thanks!
 
For the perspective of user understanding & safety - can we please understand the TOS violation? So that we can determine / build our own view on the issue as to whether we would continue to use Odin (I have used them lots in past and view their products as high quality).

Not looking to debate the issue @Eddie Haskell - just think it would be helpful to the community to understand the issue better versus leaving us somewhat in dark to speculate? Thanks!
Again @aussiejimmyj read this:
It’s not a debate, it’s an announcement. Please refrain from further discussion about this.
Don’t post in this thread again please. We are not having a discussion, it’s an announcement.
 
Aren’t we suppose to discuss stuff or is it more of a once decided, that’s final?

To educate ourselves, where are the ToS? I don’t recall seeing or agreeing to anything when joining?

I guess it would be good to see them and the same for vendors who are new to evo etc
In this case. Final.
 
Management decision: @ODINLABS Odin labs has been suspended for multiple TOS violations.

on our moderator view:
We will not allow anyone to abuse EVO family brothers and continually violate our TOS.
This was kinda clear
 
What happened? Have only had good interactions with him!

Sucks to hear things went south

Very insightful, good service and extremely high quality product
@Opulence read please:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/odinlabs-new-vendor-introduction.102266/post-1910040

Management decision: @ODINLABS Odin labs has been suspended for multiple TOS violations.

on our moderator view:
We will not allow anyone to abuse EVO family brothers and continually violate our TOS.
 
Suspended: does that mean he could potentially come back? I used to get suspended from school for a determined time but could then return.
No he has been expelled 😂
 
Suspended: does that mean he could potentially come back? I used to get suspended from school for a determined time but could then return.
I'm not sure of the full details, @Eddie Haskell can comment on this, but usually suspended means they can come back if certain conditions are met. @Peshay
 
Personality transplant ?
I personally believe we all have our good and bad times in our life, sometimes we do things we regret and we try to atone for them. :D @Trenhead3cc
I'm the last to point fingers, I used to be an alcoholic on the street so I never judge. I guess what I am trying to say is everyone has a chance to change their life and personality, or do they? that's up for a deeper philosophical debate :P not for a steroid forum I think.
 
Have had some major issues with bad shots and inflammation from his test e he had on special. Few of my mates same problem.

Can someone provide me his latest contact details so I can reach out to him.
I had very low test reading and he said ‘you’re the type of customer I don’t have time for’ when I showed him the results

THREEMA: YPD99YRD

Let us know what he says bro
 
Have had some major issues with bad shots and inflammation from his test e he had on special. Few of my mates same problem.

Can someone provide me his latest contact details so I can reach out to him.
Wish you luck brother but you might as well cut your losses unfortunately 😕
 
I'm pretty sure early on in the piece his gear was good - i had no problems, however as things got bigger it seems to have gone down in quality.
Either way - bin the gear and use one of the recommended sources
 
Have anyone tried to test the oil itself? Or is there any accurate ones on the market that someone could recommend please?
I myself bought 10 vials as well end of last year but haven’t used those yet.

If anyone can recommend me a test kit that would help to identify if the oil is good or not then please let me know!
 
Have anyone tried to test the oil itself? Or is there any accurate ones on the market that someone could recommend please?
I myself bought 10 vials as well end of last year but haven’t used those yet.

If anyone can recommend me a test kit that would help to identify if the oil is good or not then please let me know!
Honestly the best thing if you wanna test to send to jano but with everyone account including mine sadly might just cut your loses and source something else
 
Going off most your posts looks like I wont even bother messaging, fuck that I dont need that attitude. If he aint man enough to resolve all these other issues you guys had then whats the point me reaching. Big loss for me because was for myslef and mates prepping for season A and we have had a bad start to our cycle to the point i got eeryone to bin it and i forked and bought from @Raptor Labs to make ends meet. its late too now though because we stocked up when the sale was on. Now he will make some excuse "you didnt tell me earlier" or some shit like that.

Coming from me someone that brewed for years, had test p at 200mg painless and then injecting this shit which is on par with water based test suspension or worse real RWR stana.
 
Going off most your posts looks like I wont even bother messaging, fuck that I dont need that attitude. If he aint man enough to resolve all these other issues you guys had then whats the point me reaching. Big loss for me because was for myslef and mates prepping for season A and we have had a bad start to our cycle to the point i got eeryone to bin it and i forked and bought from @Raptor Labs to make ends meet. its late too now though because we stocked up when the sale was on. Now he will make some excuse "you didnt tell me earlier" or some shit like that.

Coming from me someone that brewed for years, had test p at 200mg painless and then injecting this shit which is on par with water based test suspension or worse real RWR stana.
Can always trust @Raptor Labs the dude always high quality gear and service and very easy to talk to. He helped me out with some much needs meds a while back so he is 11/10 in my books!
 
Bit pointless having a go on here he is suspended get in contact with him state your case i was logging for Odin and the last batch I received was causing some pip not extreme just some redness soreness for a few days after pining I did several bloods over a few weeks to a month during using those vials bloods remained steady and in a good range
So not sure why it was causing pip I know this doesn't help you guys much but I would reach out to him
 
Bit pointless having a go on here he is suspended get in contact with him state your case i was logging for Odin and the last batch I received was causing some pip not extreme just some redness soreness for a few days after pining I did several bloods over a few weeks to a month during using those vials bloods remained steady and in a good range
So not sure why it was causing pip I know this doesn't help you guys much but I would reach out to him
I would prefer an open explanation in public viewing rather than one on one and then he can make ends meet with each of us. That works for me
 
Where there is smoke

Mods got it right again !
I wonder how many bought after he was suspended.
I wonder how many would of not bought from him had the moderation team said why he was suspended not just the standard "because we said so".

The lack of transparency, or "behind the scenes work you don't see" is an interesting tactic.

Could of been banned for selling THC gummies, someone else posting an AI generated picture of his gear, or selling absolute dog shit.

2 of the 3 probably wouldn't discourage his regulars from buying 10 vails of shit.
 
So we’re just calling it bunk without bloods?

Why bother posting here when the vendor is banned - what are you trying to achieve? Seems like a pointless endeavour and an utter waste of time
100% it is man, this thread needs to be locked, same with all the other suspended vendors,

@Pigsy
@Allupfromhere
@Eddie Haskell

Can we lock all the suspended vendors threads to save people posting in them, when theres no need to?
 
100% it is man, this thread needs to be locked, same with all the other suspended vendors,

@Pigsy
@Allupfromhere
@Eddie Haskell

Can we lock all the suspended vendors threads to save people posting in them, when theres no need to?
I’m going to leave the final call to @Pigsy, as it could come across as biased coming from me.

That said, while no bloodwork has been posted yet, the core issue here seems to be adverse reactions to the product, and not just from a single member. When multiple people report similar issues, I don’t think this is necessarily a situation where bloodwork alone settles the question.

Plenty of members, myself included, have used Odin’s gear previously with good results. But at the end of the day, a lab is only as good as its most recent batch.

With the alleged 25 years of experience in this space, you’d expect a level of consistency where basic brewing or handling errors that cause reactions simply shouldn’t be happening.

Seeing a vendor head into suspension, run a significant sale, and then have multiple issues raised shortly after does raise some red flags for me. I’ll be clear though that’s my opinion, not a statement of fact, and I’m open to being wrong on that.

What I do think is important is the transparency around these recent events. When reports come from multiple members, along with input from a previous logger like @Classic95, it should at least give anyone still considering a purchase some clarity around the potential risks involved if they chose to purchase from here on.
 
I’m going to leave the final call to @Pigsy, as it could come across as biased coming from me.

That said, while no bloodwork has been posted yet, the core issue here seems to be adverse reactions to the product, and not just from a single member. When multiple people report similar issues, I don’t think this is necessarily a situation where bloodwork alone settles the question.

Plenty of members, myself included, have used Odin’s gear previously with good results. But at the end of the day, a lab is only as good as its most recent batch.

With the alleged 25 years of experience in this space, you’d expect a level of consistency where basic brewing or handling errors that cause reactions simply shouldn’t be happening.

Seeing a vendor head into suspension, run a significant sale, and then have multiple issues raised shortly after does raise some red flags for me. I’ll be clear though that’s my opinion, not a statement of fact, and I’m open to being wrong on that.

What I do think is important is the transparency around these recent events. When reports come from multiple members, along with input from a previous logger like @Classic95, it should at least give anyone still considering a purchase some clarity around the potential risks involved if they chose to purchase from here on.
Completely agree with u brother, myself being an ex logger for him, I dnt think I had any issues with any batches of his but I do feel how u have asked @Pigsy to make the final call, to be fair

Thank u legend 🤜🏽🤛🏽
 
I wonder how many would of not bought from him had the moderation team said why he was suspended not just the standard "because we said so".

The lack of transparency, or "behind the scenes work you don't see" is an interesting tactic.

Could of been banned for selling THC gummies, someone else posting an AI generated picture of his gear, or selling absolute dog shit.

2 of the 3 probably wouldn't discourage his regulars from buying 10 vails of shit.
Actually Im surprised anyone was still buying from him after seeing his customer service over the last 6 months, he even banned all new customers at one point.
I'd be asking the question" how will he treat me if I have a problem".

Hopefully people realise bans are for a reason , would explaining it help?
I don't know , probably not , I think it would just be pointless back and forth
 
I wonder how many would of not bought from him had the moderation team said why he was suspended not just the standard "because we said so".

The lack of transparency, or "behind the scenes work you don't see" is an interesting tactic.

Could of been banned for selling THC gummies, someone else posting an AI generated picture of his gear, or selling absolute dog shit.

2 of the 3 probably wouldn't discourage his regulars from buying 10 vails of shit.
He was banned for his poisonous attitude mainly. He was really going to far.
There were other reasons as well.

Though I would urge you to stop this discussion for now, not further talk is needed.
 
I wonder how many would of not bought from him had the moderation team said why he was suspended not just the standard "because we said so".

The lack of transparency, or "behind the scenes work you don't see" is an interesting tactic.

Could of been banned for selling THC gummies, someone else posting an AI generated picture of his gear, or selling absolute dog shit.

2 of the 3 probably wouldn't discourage his regulars from buying 10 vails of shit.
Or having a telegram channel lmao
 
So we’re just calling it bunk without bloods?

Why bother posting here when the vendor is banned - what are you trying to achieve? Seems like a pointless endeavour and an utter waste of time
He was on here a long time, built a customer base from Evo members. Just because someone is suspended for their poisonous attitude doesn’t deter people from doing business with them as you can see. But now multiple members have come out with some pretty negative and potentially dangerous reactions to his gear. This will hopefully deter others from continuing to do business and keep the community safe….curious as to how that’s a waste of time? Seems like that’s one of the main reasons this forum is here for?? Community safety around Ped’s
 
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He was on here a long time, built a customer base from Evo members. Just because someone is suspended for their poisonous attitude doesn’t deter people from doing business with them as you can see. But now multiple members have come out with some pretty negative and potentially dangerous reactions to his gear. This will hopefully deter others from continuing to do business and keep the community safe….curious as to how that’s a waste of time? Seems like that’s one of the main reasons this forum is here for?? Community safety around Ped’s

Community safety is 110% paramount you are correct

But it’s just people saying ouch I got pip, there’s no photos or bloodwork or anything else of a substantial nature to validate said claims which can definitely sway the argument left or right

I’m not discounting what’s happened to them I’m just not entirely convinced as I’ve never had it happen to me from this vendor

But 🤷🏻‍♀️stranger things have happened hopefully no one was seriously hurt and it’s just lesson learnt the hard way
 
Community safety is 110% paramount you are correct

But it’s just people saying ouch I got pip, there’s no photos or bloodwork or anything else of a substantial nature to validate said claims which can definitely sway the argument left or right

I’m not discounting what’s happened to them I’m just not entirely convinced as I’ve never had it happen to me from this vendor

But 🤷🏻‍♀️stranger things have happened hopefully no one was seriously hurt and it’s just lesson learnt the hard way
I’m less inclined to discount user experience when there’s multiple popping up and one of them an ex logger

No ones mentioned it being underdosed, I don’t think. Blood work is not going to work for or against when discussing contamination or bad ratios when brewing in my opinion however I could be wrong

The best part about this is people have spoken up and we can all make our own informed decisions about where we buy our gear based on the info we have…user experience and feedback is everything
 
This is why here on EVO we recommend EVO Vendors. As previously said community safety is what we try for. We can't control who people buy from. We can only guide them.
 
Same issue here
Clients suffering pip, myself too even feeling almost sick an hour of so after each injection, but his stuff was always so good previously (even sent vials off to jano ourself in the past and was super impressed) so I never questioned it tbh
But then the same issue kept coming up, it was towards the end after the “postage” delays hit longer and longer and by longer I mean 3 + weeks or so on something that was previously coming in 5-6 business days like clockwork, something was going on henind the scenes for sure and I have my theory’s but none of that really matters
The oil even had a slightly (very slight) yellow tinge compared to every batch prior
Was a huge advocate for odins quality but something has gone wrong whether it’s his fault or he’s been sent a bad batch of raws unknowingly who knows but not here to debate just move on, Odin isn’t here to defend himself so it’s pointless I’m just giving my experience, it is what it is
Here are bloods taken by my client just this week
First cycle
250mg per week
Not super impressed I’d expect these numbers from 150mg per week personally but you guys can judge for yourself !
Again I’m just posting for you guys to judge for yourself not to debate, odins not here anymore, he can’t defend himself and there’s nothing we can do, just move on and pick a new vendor if you’re not happy unfortunately
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So we’re just calling it bunk without bloods?

Why bother posting here when the vendor is banned - what are you trying to achieve? Seems like a pointless endeavour and an utter waste of time
WTF the fuck will you need bloods for? Bunk can refer to a million things regarding gear. Giving inflammation issues, possible abscess its convincing enough bin the shit. I aint getting a blood test, to suggest what? yeah theirs active ingredient? big fucking deal. Infections abcess and inflamation is far more important right now
 
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