Approved Log My Pre-cycle TRT BPC157 healing Log

[JasonM50]

I have had 2 operations already due to arthritis and need to have a hip replacement due to arthritis and the cartlige thinning, I have been recommended bpc157 and tb500, would be interested to hear the feedback regarding your arthritis issues as in the same boat.

 

[Noah Wixx]

What are you doing for the hands - grip etc is my specialty

^ this is the man you want to learn from with grip strength or strength in general mobster is world class and a wealth of information!

 

[ForeverBulk01]

I have had 2 operations already due to arthritis and need to have a hip replacement due to arthritis and the cartlige thinning, I have been recommended bpc157 and tb500, would be interested to hear the feedback regarding your arthritis issues as in the same boat.

Ah that sucks bro, I'll tell you now that from my previous BPC/TB4 it took away a lot of the pain, but unfortunate depending on it's state, it probably won't fully heal, however it definitely provides some comfort/improvement of life.

I did 250 mcg of BPC daily for 8 weeks, alongside 500 mcg of TB4 every third day, it would've elevated discomfort by at least 50-60% and some days even more so. I however did the classic "Oh i feel better now" and stopped doing my specific physio after the 2nd or 3rd week, also I could've ramped up my micro-nutrients more, but I'll definitely let you know how it goes this round with just the BPC and better attention to nutrients, physio and exercise

 

[ForeverBulk01]

Monday morning weigh in:

77.3 KG (170 pounds) so cut is going great so far with my current calorie intake and routine.

Did chest and tri's today, definitely feeling flat however, just one of those days your pushing through and not having a kick ass workout, even with pre and metal blaring

 

[25homes]

Should be good run. Stay focused

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Hey bros, I’ve been encouraged to start a log, so here it is, happy to hear opinions,

History

181 cm (5’11)
78 kg (172 pounds)
Bodyfat: (Dexa Scan – 18.5% total, lean arms, legs, main body-fat remaining sits in mid section)

Working out since 15, serious working out 20-26, commenced again at 30. Started TRT at 31 due to low levels over the course of a year and a half of bloodwork. 120mg a week of test, experimented as low as 80mg to 150mg, 120mg gave me upper levels within range for the past 3+ years without too much E2 issues (normally bloat, acne without low dose aromasin).

Goal

Repair finger pain, wrist and minor shoulder discomfort while trying to cut to less than 15% total BF. I have a lot of inflammatory issues, did medicals, not a condition, seems to be genetics, overall want to improve tendons, joints and anything that pushes for that collagen synthesis to support a proper future bulk without my joints being my downfall.

After initial 8-week period, lean bulk to approx. 85 kg (187 pounds)

Diet

Not 100% accurate as of recently I haven’t been weighting all my food, but have a good idea due to approx. same 5 meals in rotation. I know this is something I will have to fix and start weighting again, so calories/macros below not exact.

2,000 – 2,300 Calories
160-175 grams Protein
230-250 grams Carbs
55-70 grams Fat

No fast food, alcohol and minimal processed foods.

Meals consist between the following, tend to jump between about 5 total different meals;

Meal 1:
Lean bacon, eggs, carb option (toast, oats) + natural Greek yogurt.

Meal 2:
Chicken/Beef/Fish with carb option (pasta, rice, sweet potato) + vegetables.

Meal 3:
Chicken/Beef/Fish with carb option (pasta, rice, sweet potato) + vegetables.

Meal 4:
Protein shake, oats, fiber supplement.

Snack:
Occasional small sweet (less than 100 calories)

Training

Currently a bro-split.

Monday: Chest/Tris
Weds: Back/Bis
Friday: Shoulders/Legs

30 minutes of cardio 6-7 days a week.

This will be adjusted when I start my bulk, have rough plan as of now.

Daily Supplements:

Vitamin C – 500 mg
Vitamin D – 1,000 IU
Vitman K – 180 mcg
Vitamin B Complex
Zinc – 25 mg
CoQ10 – 150 mg
Fish Oil – 2,000 mg
Magnesium 400 mg
Calcium 300 mg
Glucosamine 1500 mg

Digestive Enzyme
Probiotic

Workout Day Supplements

Pre-Workout
Arginine 500 mg
Citrulline 250 mg

Additional Healing Supplements When BPC commences

Vitamin K Complex
MSM
Collagen II

Current PEDs

Test-E: 120mg Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)
HCG: 500 IU Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)

Previous PEDs

TRT+ as below;

BPC, TB4 and CJC to treat injuries during that time (shoulder rotary cuff, knee) in two separates 8-week cycles in a one year period. Found BPC most effective as I have used all on separate occasions and in conjunction with each other with 90% healed alongside physio.

Anavar for composition and collagen synthesis for a 6+ week period of 20mg per day pre-workout. Assisted in tennis elbow issues, but didn’t help fingers, wrist and minor shoulder discomfort.

Planned PEDs

For healing period during last couple months of cut;

BPC-157: 250 mcg daily - 8 weeks to repair any injuries prior to commencing cycle, open to increasing dosage depending on results.

After 8 weeks; potentially;

Test-E: 300mg Week (Mon/Thurs Pin) (8 weeks – if bloods fine, titrate up 100-200 mg more)
HCG: 500 IU Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)

Plan for on-hand PEDs:

Masteron (If E2 elevated more than Aromasin low dose, introduce 100mg+ a week)
BPC-157: 250 mcg daily (if required after 4-8 week break)

I'd love HGH at a 2-3 IU but unfortunately it's not within the budget at this time.

Pharmaceuticals

Aromasin: 6.25mg (Tues/Fri)

@ForeverBulk01 Good start man.....looking forward to an awesome log..........

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

A few more details for you guys:

Other PED uses

I forgot to mention that I did 14 weeks of low dose deca with my TRT+ two years ago.

This was 50 mg per week, split in two doses, along with 120 mg of test per week. To try combat my joint issues, from my notes, it did help discomfort by about 50%, but as most of you know, it didn't heal my issues at all, only lubricated my joints, I never finished the vial, and stopped it 2 weeks earlier than intended, as I was unfortunately susceptible to the mental sides of 19nors. E.g. quick to anger, somewhat paranoid, and even somewhat depressed. My bloods only shown elevated E2 levels at the time, everything else seemed fine (other than minor LDL and HDL out of range) but not something I'd consider again.

Home gym (Currently)

Currently I workout from my home gym, which consists of the following equipment:

• Adjustable bench
• Home gym multi-station (various attachments - added image for example) with horizontal leg press
• Stationary bike
• Magnet rowing machine (I honestly don't use it and really feel I should)
• Various basic dumbbells, straight bar, easy curl bar, etc

I plan on joining another gym this year, more so when I have some extra funds (everything's expensive as hell nowadays as you all know) so if I can make due with what I go that'll definitely be the go for me

One of my main issues (joints, joints and joints)

As mentioned above, I have joint issues, I do have mild arthritis in my wrist caused from impact/small fracture and overall wear and tear. I'm prone to these kinds of injuries overall and have many small areas with issues, hence the plan to do this healing pre cycle for my eventual bulk and blast this year where I'm not afraid of of progressive overload, I tend to do other methods, e.g.

• Slowing down certain reps (3-6 seconds)
• Always focusing on technique
• Other ways of progressive overload, e.g. adding a 4th set but doing 6 reps, then 8, 10, eventually raising the weight and going back to 3 sets

I do have a fear of getting more injuries, especially in my age, I'm sure most of you know this feeling, how do you get over the fear of pushing yourself harder at risk of injury?

Supplement research

I've been doing more research into improving joints/collagen through supplements, as mentioned I have past experience using peptides to recover which were very successful, but I think I screwed up where I didn't feed my body enough nutrients/micro-nutrients as I thought I was, no point forcing collagen synthesis but not feeding it.

The new addition as mentioned above which I already started will definitely be gelatin at 1,200 mg a day, I plan on potentially bringing this up to 1,800 mg during my BPC cycle, based on this study for osteoarthritis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9003490/

Collagen type 2, but perhaps a complex to include type 1 and 3? I understand this is more so for skin, nails, hair etc, but what are your collagen supplements like?

General note: I also keep E2 on the higher reference level for joint health, I don't want anything to inhibit collagen synthesis and joint health.

Monday morning weigh in:

77.3 KG (170 pounds) so cut is going great so far with my current calorie intake and routine.

Did chest and tri's today, definitely feeling flat however, just one of those days your pushing through and not having a kick ass workout, even with pre and metal blaring

@ForeverBulk01 you doing good bro but im not seeing any training or nutrition updates here
not sure the forward with this without it
like collagen? bone broth? hows all that

 

[ForeverBulk01]

@ForeverBulk01 you doing good bro but im not seeing any training or nutrition updates here
not sure the forward with this without it
like collagen? bone broth? hows all that

Awaiting BPC delivery before I pump up the collagen, but decided on using Swanson's UC-II Standardized Collagen, 40 mg per day, in addition to my other supplements listed, bone broth was a bit expensive for me unfortunately, plus the high sodium content

Dinner from yesterday attached, bit of a treat with a t-bone, otherwise normally chicken/ground beef is my go too with fish twice a week minimum as well, i'll try get in the habit of taking a photo of meals

Training yesterday was sluggish but got through with;

15x 2 sets of push ups for warm up
10x 8 sets incline DB press with two different inclines
10x 4 sets seated press

10x 3 sets overhead rope tricep extentions
10x 3 sets pushdowns
10x 3 sets DB overhead
10x 2 sets JM presses

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Today's been a rest day for the most part, did 15 minutes of mobility exercises, alongside 30 minutes of cardio

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Awaiting BPC delivery before I pump up the collagen, but decided on using Swanson's UC-II Standardized Collagen, 40 mg per day, in addition to my other supplements listed, bone broth was a bit expensive for me unfortunately, plus the high sodium content

Dinner from yesterday attached, bit of a treat with a t-bone, otherwise normally chicken/ground beef is my go too with fish twice a week minimum as well, i'll try get in the habit of taking a photo of meals

Training yesterday was sluggish but got through with;

15x 2 sets of push ups for warm up
10x 8 sets incline DB press with two different inclines
10x 4 sets seated press

10x 3 sets overhead rope tricep extentions
10x 3 sets pushdowns
10x 3 sets DB overhead
10x 2 sets JM presses

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Today's been a rest day for the most part, did 15 minutes of mobility exercises, alongside 30 minutes of cardio

dinner looks good but adding some bone broth soup to this would close the deal bro

 

[ForeverBulk01]

dinner looks good but adding some bone broth soup to this would close the deal bro

Thats a good idea man, could always make my own, would be a lot cheaper, cheers bro!

Also I'm adding in a Swanson, Marine Collagen, 400 mg Type 1 as I found one on special today, from everything I read type 1 and type 2 are the main go toos, plus the wholefood aspects, should be pretty good

 

[Freki]

Not 100% accurate as of recently I haven’t been weighting all my food, but have a good idea due to approx. same 5 meals in rotation. I know this is something I will have to fix and start weighting again,

Great start to your log mate.
As above, you have to log everything , guestimates just don't cut it especially with even healthy snacks here or there or a slightly bigger or smaller meal. You got this

 

[ForeverBulk01]

Great start to your log mate.
As above, you have to log everything , guestimates just don't cut it especially with even healthy snacks here or there or a slightly bigger or smaller meal. You got this

Appreciate the feedback man, you aren't wrong, especially after several meals, it can definitely add up!

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Thats a good idea man, could always make my own, would be a lot cheaper, cheers bro!

Also I'm adding in a Swanson, Marine Collagen, 400 mg Type 1 as I found one on special today, from everything I read type 1 and type 2 are the main go toos, plus the wholefood aspects, should be pretty good

add bone broth powder you can just get it like protein powder bro

 

[ForeverBulk01]

add bone broth powder you can just get it like protein powder bro

You sold me on the idea of making my own bone broth already haha, I've made it once before a few years ago, but I plan on doing it in the slow cooker in the next week or two, I'll post it here when I do though and see how it stacks with the rest of the supps

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

You sold me on the idea of making my own bone broth already haha, I've made it once before a few years ago, but I plan on doing it in the slow cooker in the next week or two, I'll post it here when I do though and see how it stacks with the rest of the supps

yea thats week or 2 hit it bro but get powder meanwhile so you can put it in your regiment

 

[ForeverBulk01]

Back/Bis day today, solid workout, fair bit of pain in my right knuckles, probably can see in the profile image i got, I tape it up during those days and sometimes also apply tiger balm an hour prior which helps, BPC got delayed unfortunately but definitely getting keen to ease off that pain and start healing up the joints.

Back;
10x4 lat pull down
10x3 close grip seated row
10x3 mid trap raises
10x3 lat DB row

Bis;
10x3 DB bicep curls
10x3 Ezy bar bicep curls
10x3 DB hammer curls
10x3 Ezy bar reverse curls

 

[LevButlerov]

Back/Bis day today, solid workout, fair bit of pain in my right knuckles, probably can see in the profile image i got, I tape it up during those days and sometimes also apply tiger balm an hour prior which helps, BPC got delayed unfortunately but definitely getting keen to ease off that pain and start healing up the joints.

Back;
10x4 lat pull down
10x3 close grip seated row
10x3 mid trap raises
10x3 lat DB row

Bis;
10x3 DB bicep curls
10x3 Ezy bar bicep curls
10x3 DB hammer curls
10x3 Ezy bar reverse curls

I'd like to see you do pull ups for back, can you do them?

 

[stevesmi]

Back and biceps look fantastic

 

[ceo]

Bros. You won't go wrong with this style of training.

 

[ForeverBulk01]

I'd like to see you do pull ups for back, can you do them?

Only 4-6 and I don't have access to a assisted machine, I was thinking of loading up the machine a bit more until I can do a consistent 6 at least for 3 sets without form going to shit, what are your thoughts?

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Today was a day-off from weights, but I ended up doing a small chest an tris exercise after my 30 minutes of cardio

10x6 Incline DB press
10x3 Overhead DB tricep extension
10x3 Tricep pushdown

Cardio was moderate pace walk, I'll see how I go in the next 2-3 hours, might do some stationary bike for 10-15 at a bit more intensity

Sleep wasn't the greatest, got 7 hours but couple wake-ups, going to take 2-3 mg of melatonin tonight so I have decent energy after for shoulders and legs tomorrow

Nutrition been good though, beef and potatoes with veg, additional protein shake and greek yogurt with protein mixed in alongside berries