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It can be done you are correct it is mild generally i would only run it with a test base but people do run it on its own not sure if you will benefit from it or not
More so just for some added strength and well being. That’s all really. But for now it’s all just an idea. I may just throw in some test e 100-125mg /weekly.
 
I’m considering running Anavar only alongside my 4iu gh daily, at around 40mg pre workout. And 1 hour pre workout sounds good 😁.
i have run a anavar only cycle it wasnt bad but it definitely leaves you wanting for more
 
Hahaha I can only imagine. I’ve used Anavar twice before but alongside tren and test p. Never on its own. But I been considering lately to give it a shot. And all your gear porn on here has got me drooling lol
haha thanks bro you could appreciate the temptation i feel every day fondling all these vials 🤣
 
Each time 8 weeks. 30mg.
I forgot to mention Masteron.

So I would cycle tren ace, Masteron, test prop with Anavar.
This is my next cycle.

Just waiting on the postie.
 
Enjoy bro 💪🏽
How long you going to be running this vicious cycle?
All this gear talk is getting me thinking of my next cycle 😂😂😂😂

To be honest mate my sleep is usually the 1st to go on gear. I have sleep apnea, but I've been forcing myself to use my CPAP and kinda grown to actually like using it.

Tren then really fucks with my digestion, the most vile burps that taste like pure egg.

Shit sleep, no desire to eat, may as well be off cycle then.

8 weeks being consistent would be nice.
 
Each time 8 weeks. 30mg.
I forgot to mention Masteron.

So I would cycle tren ace, Masteron, test prop with Anavar.
How did you go with the anavar on top? On a cycle of tren, test, mast atm myself but see anavar mentioned a lot too. Did you only take it pre workout? Actually never touched orals so have 0 experience in the matter
 
To be honest mate my sleep is usually the 1st to go on gear. I have sleep apnea, but I've been forcing myself to use my CPAP and kinda grown to actually like using it.

Tren then really fucks with my digestion, the most vile burps that taste like pure egg.

Shit sleep, no desire to eat, may as well be off cycle then.

8 weeks being consistent would be nice.
Yeah I’m 117kg now was 133kg in 2021 on cycle. And I had sleep apnea at that weight, apparently snore like a bear, I’m 6’4 and 36 years old so I prefer to stay leaner getting older. Tren I had the worst insomnia and fucked with my head I couldn’t hold a serious relationship but that was using around 300mg a week if I was to do it again I’d be doing 75-150max. The strength gains on it was like nothing else. That primal feeling was the best feeling. But yeah 8 weeks is perfect.
 
How did you go with the anavar on top? On a cycle of tren, test, mast atm myself but see anavar mentioned a lot too. Did you only take it pre workout? Actually never touched orals so have 0 experience in the matter
Yeah mate I took it pre workout 15-20 mins with my pre workout and creatine.
Honestly, running it with the tren it’s hard to say if I felt much of the effects because Tren is just so overpowering with strength and vascularity as well as Masteron.
 
To be honest mate my sleep is usually the 1st to go on gear. I have sleep apnea, but I've been forcing myself to use my CPAP and kinda grown to actually like using it.

Tren then really fucks with my digestion, the most vile burps that taste like pure egg.

Shit sleep, no desire to eat, may as well be off cycle then.

8 weeks being consistent would be nice.
How much tren were you running? I always thought digestion issues and lack of appetite from a drug was due to the liver being under stress. How were your liver enzymes?
 
How much tren were you running? I always thought digestion issues and lack of appetite from a drug was due to the liver being under stress. How were your liver enzymes?

If I'm honest mate. I have no idea regards to liver, or health in general. We're talking 15 odd years ago when I was still young and didn't really care to much.

Re dose. I was messing about with Tren E up to 500mg.

Those days are behind me now.

I pay alot more attention to less drugs and a better diet and over all health.
 
Yeah I’m 117kg now was 133kg in 2021 on cycle. And I had sleep apnea at that weight, apparently snore like a bear, I’m 6’4 and 36 years old so I prefer to stay leaner getting older. Tren I had the worst insomnia and fucked with my head I couldn’t hold a serious relationship but that was using around 300mg a week if I was to do it again I’d be doing 75-150max. The strength gains on it was like nothing else. That primal feeling was the best feeling. But yeah 8 weeks is perfect.

I snore regardless, unless I completely stop training all together.

If take steriods I literally stop breathing. When it's really bad I wake up choking, what i can only assume drowning feels like. It's honestly fucking scary.

A lad i knew from school died from sleep apnea. He was a biiiig old lad but it always crosses my mind.

It's been a good 5 years since I've meddled with Tren. Much longer since I've rang the longer ester.

I find eod of ed dosing to be night and day different for sides.

If I'm in a good place mentally on ace every day jabs other than generally hot and horny i don't notice much in the way of sides.

My wife and I don't share a bedroom because of my snoring, breathing to loud, being to hot, taking all the covers, watching my phone, basically being alive next to her. But we shared a bed when we went on a weekend vacation while I was on a bit of tren e. I have no idea what I was dreaming about but I woke up to her screaming and basically crying. Apparently I had been trying to grab her face in my sleep. Thankfully she's rather understanding and not overly judgement about how unusual that behaviour was.
 
I snore regardless, unless I completely stop training all together.

If take steriods I literally stop breathing. When it's really bad I wake up choking, what i can only assume drowning feels like. It's honestly fucking scary.

A lad i knew from school died from sleep apnea. He was a biiiig old lad but it always crosses my mind.

It's been a good 5 years since I've meddled with Tren. Much longer since I've rang the longer ester.

I find eod of ed dosing to be night and day different for sides.

If I'm in a good place mentally on ace every day jabs other than generally hot and horny i don't notice much in the way of sides.

My wife and I don't share a bedroom because of my snoring, breathing to loud, being to hot, taking all the covers, watching my phone, basically being alive next to her. But we shared a bed when we went on a weekend vacation while I was on a bit of tren e. I have no idea what I was dreaming about but I woke up to her screaming and basically crying. Apparently I had been trying to grab her face in my sleep. Thankfully she's rather understanding and not overly judgement about how unusual that behaviour was.
Oh wow. That was an interesting read mate. And she seems like a great woman. I snore too lol but a lot less now that I’m lighter.
With Tren I couldn’t wear white or greys only black tees from all the sweating.
But yeah my paranoia was that bad I couldn’t hold a relationship, I would be toxic. I had to get my mate to come collect my tren lol I’m generally a very calm and collected person and don’t get roid rage on any compound but tren, makes me a different person, I’ve never used tren e only tren ace and always on a 300mg/week dose. I think microdosing can give some good results and mitigate some or many of the sides.
 
Oh wow. That was an interesting read mate. And she seems like a great woman. I snore too lol but a lot less now that I’m lighter.
With Tren I couldn’t wear white or greys only black tees from all the sweating.
But yeah my paranoia was that bad I couldn’t hold a relationship, I would be toxic. I had to get my mate to come collect my tren lol I’m generally a very calm and collected person and don’t get roid rage on any compound but tren, makes me a different person, I’ve never used tren e only tren ace and always on a 300mg/week dose. I think microdosing can give some good results and mitigate some or many of the sides.
My old man was a snorer and he's not an especially big man so I can only assume it's some what hereditary.

I actually find nandrolone decanoateto be worse for anxiety and paranoia.

If anything Tren makes me an arrogant twat.

300mg of ace is a healthy does mate.

25mg ed will be my next cycle. Same mast with maybe slightly higher test prop.
 
My old man was a snorer and he's not an especially big man so I can only assume it's some what hereditary.

I actually find nandrolone decanoateto be worse for anxiety and paranoia.

If anything Tren makes me an arrogant twat.

300mg of ace is a healthy does mate.

25mg ed will be my next cycle. Same mast with maybe slightly higher test prop.
I never experienced any on anadrol or dbol. But yeah only tren.
25mg tren ace eod I think would be a healthier dose to stay away from most sides alongside 20mg of Anavar and whatever dosage test p and Masteron.

What dosages are you thinking of running?
 
so are most people just putting the var under their tongue? just 20 or 40mg pre workout?
just when it comes in the raw pots bro its a small container with the raw powder in it with the caps just swallow it
 
just when it comes in the raw pots bro its a small container with the raw powder in it with the caps just swallow it
yep sounds easier than undoing a cap and spilling it
 
Do you guys only take the var on workout days pre workout? My last cycle I just took it in the morning every day for 7 weeks not particularly pre workout.
 
Do you guys only take the var on workout days pre workout? My last cycle I just took it in the morning every day for 7 weeks not particularly pre workout.
I've done both ways
This time as a pre workout on training days but have run it every day in other cycles
 
Do you guys only take the var on workout days pre workout? My last cycle I just took it in the morning every day for 7 weeks not particularly pre workout.
I've done both as well. But I prefer pw days it doesn't feel like I wasted it that way haha
 
What's your preference?
Depending what you want out of it if you are using for its mussel building cutting abilities should be used daily
If using for a training boost as a pre
Using as a pre gives your liver a break in between but wouldn't benefit you as much as a daily dose
 
Do you guys only take the var on workout days pre workout? My last cycle I just took it in the morning every day for 7 weeks not particularly pre workout days
so are most people just putting the var under their tongue? just 20 or 40mg pre workout?
With anavar half life is pretty short around 9 hours. I generally take it twice daily Am and Pm
I for example would take 40mg pre workout 530am and 20mg at night
Let it find a saturation level in my system.

Sublingually under the tongue can get into your blood stream a bit quicker and can avoid the first pass through the liver . I would say it’s then a little bit less liver toxic.
 
With anavar half life is pretty short around 9 hours. I generally take it twice daily Am and Pm
I for example would take 40mg pre workout 530am and 20mg at night
Let it find a saturation level in my system.

Sublingually under the tongue can get into your blood stream a bit quicker and can avoid the first pass through the liver . I would say it’s then a little bit less liver toxic.
Fk I've been having 20mg

These are rookie numbers gotta pump them up even more! 😂
 
Fk I've been having 20mg

These are rookie numbers gotta pump them up even more! 😂
Last time at that dose I was using Apex so it was still good stuff. But core training is pretty gnarly I found . A couple of times I had to stop training as it literally floored me after a set and I couldn’t stand up for ages due to pump and cramps. If I tried to stand it just went bang again. Similar to a leg cramp in bed where you think it’s gone and safe , move then bang.
 
Hey mate
I was literally just logging. Check it out
Sorry for the gap, work has been hectic
all good bro i was just checking it out then nice update keep it up bro
 
10/10 service. Cheers brother
 

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Last time at that dose I was using Apex so it was still good stuff. But core training is pretty gnarly I found . A couple of times I had to stop training as it literally floored me after a set and I couldn’t stand up for ages due to pump and cramps. If I tried to stand it just went bang again. Similar to a leg cramp in bed where you think it’s gone and safe , move then bang.
I get those cramps in the core they are shit can't stand can't sit so painful 😫
 
Less is always more, minimalist approach👌
this is what i love to hear was thinking i might have to start sending out pez dispensers with these orals

in all seriousness always reach out when you boys need something i will keep you stocked up
 
this is what i love to hear was thinking i might have to start sending out pez dispensers with these orals

in all seriousness always reach out when you boys need something i will keep you stocked up
Your a legend
 
10/10 service. Cheers brother
you're welcome bro just reach out a week or two before you need restocking that way if auspost fucks up we can get another parcel to you and your cycle wont be disturbed
 
Less is always more, minimalist approach👌
Yeah to an extent lol. I think 20-60mg a day is good. Note on non training it was only 40mg a day.
I saw a study that 20mg of Anavar is the equal equivalent liver toxicity as 2 x beers. So fuck all. Especially if we running a liver support . And just don’t drink as we shouldn’t on cycle
 
Yeah to an extent lol. I think 20-60mg a day is good. Note on non training it was only 40mg a day.
I saw a study that 20mg of Anavar is the equal equivalent liver toxicity as 2 x beers. So fuck all. Especially if we running a liver support . And just don’t drink as we shouldn’t on cycle
I am very keen for anavar, never tried oral, might throw at tail end
 
Will talk to him, he said he is sending suprise pack today. Hoping anavar is there no idea, will let u know.
christmas came early!
 
I’m keen to try anavar to. Plan is to run this test / primo cycle for 16 weeks. When would be a good time to introduce on oral?
i would throw it in around week 4 bro just run it for 12 weeks see how you feel maybe up the dose towards the end

or right now haha up to you
 
You're a machine bro. Well done.

Hope these guys appreciate what you're doing for them.

Bring on the gains.
they do bro which i love

have you thought about logging?
 
I'm keen to once I finish the gear I got off you. I'll have a break over Christmas then start up again in the new year.
awesome bro hit me up when you're ready
 
while I'm here we have just had @cooper.ALP start a log using R&D products he messagedme on evo and session and finally threema i was just so busy eachtime i forgot to sort him out when he finally messaged on threema i could see the bro was keen and dedicated so give his log a sus and offer and advice you might have
 
also boys @BrazilianBumLift and i had a chat if he has anything on his list you would like to add to your cycle reach out he is happy to help sponsor your logs just give him a shoutout in your log
 
also boys @BrazilianBumLift and i had a chat if he has anything on his list you would like to add to your cycle reach out he is happy to help sponsor your logs just give him a shoutout in your log
Working together always a good thing
 
😂 😂 😂 😂

Let the arms race begin!!
fuck bro i didn't want to win the race before its began but we've got our ment ready to go just waiting on labels
 
Yet another generous gesture from R&D.

A $200 gift card to mark 4 weeks logging with him.

I'll be back in hopefully a few days with an update with what I got.

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Yet another generous gesture from R&D.

A $200 gift card to mark 4 weeks logging with him.

I'll be back in hopefully a few days with an update with what I got.

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(My Mrs took the arty farty picture for me)
youre welcome bro...its good your misso supports you bro and your hobbies haha
 
I've got @Ringworm1 and @Rogue888 starting there logs shortly once there packages lets get around boys offer some support and keep them motivated
 
@Ohdamn send me a message bro i want tk send you a $200 nutrition warehouse gift card you have been consistently pumping your log out for over 4 weeks
 
@Ohdamn send me a message bro i want tk send you a $200 nutrition warehouse gift card you have been consistently pumping your log out for over 4 weeks
That’s awesome, bro! 😃Really appreciate it! I’ll DM you now so we can sort it out. Thanks again for the support!
 
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