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I was wondering what you guys take for sleep on cycle? The type of sleep where you won’t wake up for 6 to 8 hours. I feel like a light sleeper and keep waking up alot and then crashing back out.

I can get valiums prescribed but I don’t want to go down that road yet unless someone knows a supplement or something that will help. Any recommendations?
 
I was wondering what you guys take for sleep on cycle? The type of sleep where you won’t wake up for 6 to 8 hours. I feel like a light sleeper and keep waking up alot and then crashing back out.

I can get valiums prescribed but I don’t want to go down that road yet unless someone knows a supplement or something that will help. Any recommendations?
Yeah don’t go down the Valium road if you care about your well-being. You could look into melatonin + GABA + glycine or DSIP (deep-sleep inducing peptide) - both options are affordable and worth a try imo. If these don’t work for you and you want prescription sleep meds stay away from benzos - highly addictive and will likely fuck your life up - I would try zolpidem or zopiclone - stay away from xanax, valium etc
 
I suffer with the same light sleeping here and there.

Melatonin for me was rubbish. I tried a few different brands and dosages aswel as prescribed melatonin before it was over the counter. I found that you have a 5-10 minute window where you need to allow yourself to switch off and sleep. If you miss the window then you have the worst nights sleep on it.

I’m strongly against benzo use due to seeing multiple people ruin their lives with addiction.

For me personally magnesium at night and putting my phone down well before bed time is what works best. But if I’ve got shit on my mind it’s easier said then done
 
I was wondering what you guys take for sleep on cycle? The type of sleep where you won’t wake up for 6 to 8 hours. I feel like a light sleeper and keep waking up alot and then crashing back out.

I can get valiums prescribed but I don’t want to go down that road yet unless someone knows a supplement or something that will help. Any recommendations?
Bro DSIP is apparently great for sleep and also CJC - 1295 really helps with keeping you in a deep sleep cycle perfect for recovery. Pls dont go down the benzo route u will end up so much worse
 
Yeah don’t go down the Valium road if you care about your well-being. You could look into melatonin + GABA + glycine or DSIP (deep-sleep inducing peptide) - both options are affordable and worth a try imo. If these don’t work for you and you want prescription sleep meds stay away from benzos - highly addictive and will likely fuck your life up - I would try zolpidem or zopiclone - stay away from xanax, valium etc
Zolpidem is still highly addictive but totally agree with you on DSIP it is said to work wonders
 
I use DSIP from time to time as it does work. I find about an 30-60min after I have it I feel like it's easier to get to sleep as well as an improvement on sleep quality. Now it's no benzo but it works well enough for me to continue to use it.
 
2 melatonin at night 1 restavit


restavit works much better when taken with melatonin is what i was told as i took melatonin once by itself and did nothing

i dont wake up oncee now ive started taking those 2 together just before bed,

used to 4-5 times a night was driving me nuts.
can get both over the counter.

Good luck, worth a shot and let me know how u go.
 
2 melatonin at night 1 restavit


restavit works much better when taken with melatonin is what i was told as i took melatonin once by itself and did nothing

i dont wake up oncee now ive started taking those 2 together just before bed,

used to 4-5 times a night was driving me nuts.
can get both over the counter.

Good luck, worth a shot and let me know how u go.
I’ll give that a shot
 
I was thinking about this ages ago but didn’t get one
I've couldn't get on with mine. But I know alot of people who rate them highly.

I tend to stop my cycle when my sleep becomes to interrupted. I find gear really interferes.
 
I’ll give that a shot
I've used Restavit and also Phenergen, both are anti-histamines and can cause serious groginess upon waking up. I am pairing melatonin at 6mg with a full phenergen 20mg and a Catapress tab and it's made a decent difference but nothing to really write home about. I'm also interested in trying this DSIP. If it does what it says, I will be fucking stoked.
 
Unfortunately this is the game we play. Androgens do provide a stimulating effect as they do bind to sites in the brain. Some are affected more so than others. But whatever you do, don't just throw more drugs to fix the issue (seems like you know that already) try every other path including reducing blue light exposure before bed. There's so much in sleep hygiene and it's the one thing as a coach I battle with regarding clients as it's so multifactorial.
 
here is the thing about sleep that is the most valuable info you will get

when you take things to help you sleep, you get inferior sleep. sleep meds the strongest they are, the less optimal sleep you will get. even supplements that you take will give you inferior sleep
its important to get as natural of sleep as possible without the use of aids.

sleeping on a consistent schedule
not keep electronics in your room
wearing blue blocker glasses if you must use electronics.
avoiding caffeine and other stims
lots of things you can do

Tom Brady sleeps in a re-inforced room on the most optimal mattress, pillows, keeps the temperature perfect, humidity perfect, even the oxygen in the room is perfect, its dark and quiet. the common man cannot afford all that but we can do as much as we can to get there.
 
I was wondering what you guys take for sleep on cycle? The type of sleep where you won’t wake up for 6 to 8 hours. I feel like a light sleeper and keep waking up alot and then crashing back out.

I can get valiums prescribed but I don’t want to go down that road yet unless someone knows a supplement or something that will help. Any recommendations?
Sleeping tea brother best thing ever
 
Bit off topic, but you could look into a CPAP machine. I know some people who have obtained one and rave about how effective they are.
 
It's actually an antihistamine, like the old school ones.

Only issue i have is the hangover the next day. Super groggy.

I prefer HGH for sleep. 2IU a few hours before bed... best sleep ever
I might give that a try! Thank you!
 
I found references to, and a recommendation for it on a bunch of different threads in these forums.
yes I just saw it myself, looking into it
please click "REPORT" on posts you see showing the peptide maybe I missed it

@FBB2B can you please share with us, why you want to use it? you have sleep issues? you on gear?
 
I've tried plenty of things. I didn't like DSIP as its kinda expensive and doesn't work that well in my opinion. I like to take hgh, magnesium and Melatonin for sleep
 
HGH 3IU Before Bed
Magnesium Glycinate 600mg
Valerian Root 600mg
Ashwaganda 500mg
Vitamin D3 5000IU
FISH OIL 5g
3G Taurine
I also like taking a gut repair supplement to help push my body into rest and digest state.
Turn phone to night time mode
Don’t watch anything stimulating
Take your jabs in the morning - androgen signalling will happen in the half portion in the day and start to settle towards the night
 
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I was wondering what you guys take for sleep on cycle? The type of sleep where you won’t wake up for 6 to 8 hours. I feel like a light sleeper and keep waking up alot and then crashing back out.

I can get valiums prescribed but I don’t want to go down that road yet unless someone knows a supplement or something that will help. Any recommendations?
i would definitely avoid the vals at all costs brother.

I’ve heard such great things about DSIP, I can’t say I’ve actually used it personally though

The things that I do use to help me fall asleep and stay asleep:
3IU HGH before bed
Strict night routine
This might sound gay, but meditate, even if it’s just closing your eyes and breathing, just relaxing just before you go to sleep

I highly recommend something like a whoop band to track sleep, it’s awesome for showing you your sleep patterns etc

Shutting your mind down is a game changer for sleep, it’s not always the easiest thing.

One this I can recommend, and it’s a natural supplement off the shelves at chemist warehouse, it’s Saffron tablets, it’s like $15. These stop the voices and relax you, and it’s all legal and natural
 
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i would definitely avoid the vals at all costs brother.

I’ve heard such great things about DSIP, I can’t say I’ve actually used it personally though

The things that I do use to help me fall asleep and stay asleep:
3IU HGH before bed
Strict night routine
This might sound gay, but meditate, even if it’s just closing your eyes and breathing, just relaxing just before you go to sleep

I highly recommend something like a whoop band to track sleep, it’s awesome for showing you your sleep patterns etc

Shutting your mind down is a game changer for sleep, it’s not always the easiest thing.

One this I can recommend, and it’s a natural supplement off the shelves at chemist warehouse, it’s Saffron tablets, it’s like $15. These stop the voices and relax you, and it’s all legal and natural
The voices ? They talk to you too ?
 
Yeah don’t go down the Valium road if you care about your well-being. You could look into melatonin + GABA + glycine or DSIP (deep-sleep inducing peptide) - both options are affordable and worth a try imo. If these don’t work for you and you want prescription sleep meds stay away from benzos - highly addictive and will likely fuck your life up - I would try zolpidem or zopiclone - stay away from xanax, valium etc
Try some Valarien Tea or tablets. Drink before bed, or take tabs x2 30mins before bed. You'll be surprised.
 
I’ve heard of Valarien tea . Heard good things
Yes I have been using the following:

Trazadone (to get me to sleep)
Mirtazapine (to keep me asleep)

I now don't take Trazadone and only use the Mirtazapine sometimes.
Sometimes I need to just cut out all media stuff 2hrs before bed but mostly just drinking the Valarien tea has worked allot.

I recently got Valeri Tabs from Vitamart online and will start them soon.
 
Yes I have been using the following:

Trazadone (to get me to sleep)
Mirtazapine (to keep me asleep)

I now don't take Trazadone and only use the Mirtazapine sometimes.
Sometimes I need to just cut out all media stuff 2hrs before bed but mostly just drinking the Valarien tea has worked allot.

I recently got Valeri Tabs from Vitamart online and will start them soon.
I think it’s all the media and stuff that keeps our brains too active to sleep
 
I was wondering what you guys take for sleep on cycle? The type of sleep where you won’t wake up for 6 to 8 hours. I feel like a light sleeper and keep waking up alot and then crashing back out.

I can get valiums prescribed but I don’t want to go down that road yet unless someone knows a supplement or something that will help. Any recommendations?
Rich piana would use GHB and heroin but he in a really deep sleep
 
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