Hybrid Scam now rebranded to Raptor Labs

[stanna]

G'day everyone. Not too big on boards would just order my stuff and get on with life. I know alot of people here were big on hybrid. I did a big order with hybrid in november and haven't got anything up to now. Kept trying to make contact and he said he would get it altogether so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Now Feb 2025 and more than 4k down and nothing coming. I admit I should've figured it was a scam but what can you do hey. I just want to warn you guys that he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk" board. Who knows where else. Just stay safe out there ty. I expect I won't get a warm reception but its worth posting this to help 1 person not to fall for a scam. The scam is 10000% selective and you wont know its real until it happens to you on a big or even small order...

 

[RhinoUGL]

Post proof (picture evidence of your order and conversations) or join the rest of guys on here that are trying to take out competition very recently

 

[stanna]

Post proof (picture evidence of your order and conversations) or join the rest of guys on here that are trying to take out competition very recently

G'day. I lost my money in this scam and i know I'm not going to get it back. Im not very tech literate and I dont know how to scratch out all my personal details from the messages and I know my cash is gone forever. You can ask anyone on the other boards if you talk to them in private to know that raptor lab is hybrid. Hybrid is banned on here to. I am confused by what you mean by taking out the competition. I got scammed and shared my story just to put it out there...

 

[RhinoUGL]

Hm, most if not all of the clear label vials are all coming from one source but to suggest Raptor is Hybrid is a big claim as multiple people import the same product just with their logo, different entities, same clear label sticker design. If you have screenshots of your conversations please post, scratching out details is easy go to your gallery on your phone after you screenshot and click edit, look for the pen or texter and scratch it out. Or take screenshots of your conversations where your personal details aren't attached.

 

[stanna]

Hm, most if not all of the clear label vials are all coming from one source but to suggest Raptor is Hybrid is a big claim as multiple people import the same product just with their logo, different entities, same clear label sticker design. If you have screenshots of your conversations please post, scratching out details is easy go to your gallery on your phone after you screenshot and click edit, look for the pen or texter and scratch it out. Or take screenshots of your conversations where your personal details aren't attached.

G'day I'm not a rat mate and it was confirmed to me by someone who knows their shit. I wouldnt come on here unless i was sure of what Im saying. Theres so many posts here of hybrid scamming too if your after that. You can defend him but it doesnt change my situation or everyone elses

 

[RhinoUGL]

G'day I'm not a rat mate and it was confirmed to me by someone who knows their shit. I wouldnt come on here unless i was sure of what Im saying. Theres so many posts here of hybrid scamming too if your after that. You can defend him but it doesnt change my situation or everyone elses

Its a civ issue, so no, this doesn't make you a rat at all. But there are other labs who like to play dirty on here so evidence is key. Trust me, not defending anyone, just making sure you are legit and not another Vendor on here who has been going around lately stirring the pot. Which is why you should post evidence.

 

[stanna]

Its a civ issue, so no, this doesn't make you a rat at all. But there are other labs who like to play dirty on here so evidence is key. Trust me, not defending anyone, just making sure you are legit and not another Vendor on here who has been going around lately stirring the pot. Which is why you should post evidence.

G'day mate. If the admins here need the proof they can private message me and I will show them. Hybrid has been banned for a reason so theres no conspiracy mate. Im not going to show you all the messages and have to scrub out a billion of my deets and bit-coin addresses and back and fucking forth just so someone ive never heard of before can give me a thumbs up. There are other threads of him scamming and its not the first time anyone has said this mate. Thanks champ

 

[RhinoUGL]

@Raptor Labs I'll leave this one to you bro

 

[stanna]

G'day mate. Im not sure who runs the board but if the admin wanna flick me a private message I can show them proof that raptor is the hybrid scam rebrand but plz keep confidential. They can deny all they want

 

[ODINLABS]

G'day mate. If the admins here need the proof they can private message me and I will show them. Hybrid has been banned for a reason so theres no conspiracy mate. Im not going to show you all the messages and have to scrub out a billion of my deets and bit-coin addresses and back and fucking forth just so someone ive never heard of before can give me a thumbs up. There are other threads of him scamming and its not the first time anyone has said this mate. Thanks champ

The admins will tell you to post proof as anyone can say anything....

 

[stanna]

The admins will tell you to post proof as anyone can say anything....

G'day mate. If the admins can flick me a private msg I will show them the proof that hybrids has rebrand into raptor labs . Thanks mate

 

[ODINLABS]

@Eddie Haskell @Pigsy

 

[Pigsy]

G'day mate. If the admins can flick me a private msg I will show them the proof that hybrids has rebrand into raptor labs . Thanks mate

You need to post it up for all to see. No need to hide it from the EVO family.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

G'day mate. If the admins can flick me a private msg I will show them the proof that hybrids has rebrand into raptor labs . Thanks mate

DM sent share please

 

[Eddie Haskell]

You need to post it up for all to see. No need to hide it from the EVO family.

I do agree with this but let’s see what he says.

 

[CypherOCE]

@stanna no one will believe anything you say just because “someone” told you.

If I told you I was third in line to be the kings of Spain, would you believe me? No.

Post the evidence, edit your private details out stop being a nance or alternatively say nothing at all if you can’t or won’t back your claims.

 

[Grumpy]

G'day. I lost my money in this scam and i know I'm not going to get it back. Im not very tech literate and I dont know how to scratch out all my personal details from the messages and I know my cash is gone forever. You can ask anyone on the other boards if you talk to them in private to know that raptor lab is hybrid. Hybrid is banned on here to. I am confused by what you mean by taking out the competition. I got scammed and shared my story just to put it out there...

Nothing surprises me these days
Posting the messages would definitely help either way it's sucks to be scammed maybe in future don't make large purchases instead of dropping 4k on an order make 4 smaller orders that way if something goes wrong at least you only loose 500

 

[Big-Greg]

Mate @Raptor Labs has been around for quite awhile it’s not a rebrand! and is still actively delivering Goods to the Australian community I don’t know who told you this rubbish so don’t try and tarnish a good reputable sources Name

 

[Mme]

What's the scam mate?
I ordered things, paid for them, and they got delivered. Multiple times.

The guy ran a Christmas competition and gave away around 30 vials, for free.

He recently sent someone 1300 orals, then refunded the money.

Doesn't really seem like things a scammer would do.


@stanna you acknowledge you're not the most technologically literate - maybe it's you not him?

 

[Anabolik_chikin]

Gday mate

This is the dumbest lot of bullshit I’ve read on this board.
Hybrid were never “scamming”
They had seizure issues and the guy in charge got caught recently for it, Raided and claimed to be “their packer” to lower his offence but- hundreds of people received their reships or refunds which is hardly a scam

Raptor is one of the most legit in the game. Even that “scam” thread you’re talking about, the guy was refunded before it even came to evo and got to keep the orals. You sound worse than that guy did and he was a fucking moron.

You need to look up what the word scam means, and you need to put your money where your mouth is and cough up some proof. I don’t buy that bullshit you don’t know how to scratch out a couple details.
Either show SOME sort of proof or stop being a simp bitch

 

[Farmer bob]

G'day everyone. Not too big on boards would just order my stuff and get on with life. I know alot of people here were big on hybrid. I did a big order with hybrid in november and haven't got anything up to now. Kept trying to make contact and he said he would get it altogether so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Now Feb 2025 and more than 4k down and nothing coming. I admit I should've figured it was a scam but what can you do hey. I just want to warn you guys that he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk" board. Who knows where else. Just stay safe out there ty. I expect I won't get a warm reception but its worth posting this to help 1 person not to fall for a scam. The scam is 10000% selective and you wont know its real until it happens to you on a big or even small order...

Stop talking shit, I’ve purchased from raptor a few times he’s great.
Never had an issue with vendors on the ugl chat.

 

[Trenhead3cc]

G'day. I lost my money in this scam and i know I'm not going to get it back. Im not very tech literate and I dont know how to scratch out all my personal details from the messages and I know my cash is gone forever. You can ask anyone on the other boards if you talk to them in private to know that raptor lab is hybrid. Hybrid is banned on here to. I am confused by what you mean by taking out the competition. I got scammed and shared my story just to put it out there...

Raptor is not Hybrid you dipshit!

 

[Yuri]

What an audacious statement to make, without posting any proof or evidence to back it up!

Throwing rock and hiding your head?

And to add to this, I just recently had a order and touchdown from @Raptor Labs > along with countless people in the last week on the forums

 

[Raptor Labs]

on the "underground talk" board

Where? Never even heard of this place hahaha. Is that buddy of yours that runs the forum, run this forum and you trying to get traffic for him?

We are only on 2 forums, and won't ever be going anywhere else. If you found "us" anywhere else, it isn't us.

 

[Trenhead3cc]

What Alt account are you @stanna ? Joined less than 24hours ago. No credibility.
@Eddie Haskell get your IT guys onto this like we did with the uncle Wong / trendsetter bloke reverse scamming.

I can tell you bro this guy might be a gen150 alt or someone of similar mental instability.

I wouldn't trust anything someone says who keeps his IQ at room temperature

 

[Heavygripper]

Raptor is 100% not Hybrid, two separate entities.

The person that you are referring to as ‘knowing their shit’ is absolutely incorrect and is a moron.

I’ve used both suppliers on multiple occasions and rate them as the best there is.

 

[Yuri]

So that’s 1 bull shit accusation (with no evidence or proof of claim) to multiple people who have useed and also just had orders arrive from Raptor (who have alos been operating on here since early ‘04)

To anyone not in the know and seeing all of this, please note @Raptor Labs is outstanding lab and one of the best to grace this forum

 

[JackedPingu]

New account, no evidence, hybrid still running on the other forum and raptor was running whilst hybrid was last year as well.

1/10 troll and rage bait, threads like this need to be deleted.

 

[mrsrlkla]

Brand new account with zero credibility.
Bad mouthing and shit talking about one of the best if not the best lab going around without posting your proof is actually quite laughable.
Put up or shut up it's that simple.

 

[Anabolik_chikin]

G'day everyone. Not too big on boards would just order my stuff and get on with life. I know alot of people here were big on hybrid. I did a big order with hybrid in november and haven't got anything up to now. Kept trying to make contact and he said he would get it altogether so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Now Feb 2025 and more than 4k down and nothing coming. I admit I should've figured it was a scam but what can you do hey. I just want to warn you guys that he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk" board. Who knows where else. Just stay safe out there ty. I expect I won't get a warm reception but its worth posting this to help 1 person not to fall for a scam. The scam is 10000% selective and you wont know its real until it happens to you on a big or even small order...

Also, if you want more proof that your full of shit, hybrid wasn’t operating in November

 

[Bluebone]

G'day everyone. Not too big on boards would just order my stuff and get on with life. I know alot of people here were big on hybrid. I did a big order with hybrid in november and haven't got anything up to now. Kept trying to make contact and he said he would get it altogether so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Now Feb 2025 and more than 4k down and nothing coming. I admit I should've figured it was a scam but what can you do hey. I just want to warn you guys that he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk" board. Who knows where else. Just stay safe out there ty. I expect I won't get a warm reception but its worth posting this to help 1 person not to fall for a scam. The scam is 10000% selective and you wont know its real until it happens to you on a big or even small order...

Dealt with @Raptor Labs plenty

Never had an issue. They are one of the best labs going.

There is no rebrand of hybrid to raptor you gronk.

You are talking absolute shit.

Hope this isn’t Gen again or another loser lab trying to undercut successful labs (who are actually good at their job and provide good gear).

 

[Yuri]

Dealt with @Raptor Labs plenty

Never had an issue. They are one of the best labs going.

There is no rebrand of hybrid to raptor you gronk.

You are talking absolute shit.

Hope this isn’t Gen again or another loser lab trying to undercut successful labs (who are actually good at their job and provide good gear).

This

 

[Snayaz]

Gday mate

 

[Snayaz]

Still not seeing any proof from this @stanna

Its a new member
his evidence he doesn’t wanna show us
The whole gday mate thing seems like a joke
And it just seems he wants to discredit someone.

I’ve been using and speaking to hybrid for ages and even now. Don’t even make up silly assumptions and make claims if you don’t have 100% proof.

Innocent until proven guilty not guilty over the word of a flop

 

[ODINLABS]

Hence why heresay should be taken with a grain of salt....
Rumours could potentially ruin the start of a vendor and evidence is always paramount in this.

 

[Yuri]

Hence why heresay should be taken with a grain of salt....
Rumours could potentially ruin the start of a vendor and evidence is always paramount in this.

1000 % agreed, throwing rocks and hiding your head without evidence to support claims like he had is insanity!

And the fact we’re all out here backing @Raptor Labs proves everything you need to know, they are fucking goated and a valuable sauce for all of us.

Case closed

 

[Grumpy]

If there was any truth to it he would be providing evidence no response from him at all makes it pretty obvious

 

[ODINLABS]

Same happened to me and I had to publicly address it online and the claims where insane...

 

[Grumpy]

Same happened to me and I had to publicly address it online and the claims where insane...

Not good obviously has a agenda trying to bring down labs so must be someone selling behind it

 

[letsgo]

1000 % agreed, throwing rocks and hiding your head without evidence to support claims like he had is insanity!

And the fact we’re all out here backing @Raptor Labs proves everything you need to know, they are fucking goated and a valuable sauce for all of us.

Case closed

@Raptor Labs are great. Never had an issue, not once. Anyone looking to buy from them, go ahead with confidence. This whole story smells more than a politician's promise.

 

[ODINLABS]

Not good obviously has a agenda trying to bring down labs so must be someone selling behind it

Exactly brother

 

[Northside]

2nd time this year some queer has tried dragging that blokes name through the dirt for absolutely fuck all.

I did a big order with hybrid in november.

he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk”

raptors definitely been around longer then November 2024 just to throw that out there… also like mentioned helped out one of the blokes who lost there order to hybrids seizure, not to mention sending a order to a grown ass child then refunding the money cause he was reselling and being a little bitch about the packaging.

Raptor delivers straight A’s and somehow people still get the audacity to chat shit on his name for nothing

 

[Allupfromhere]

What Alt account are you @stanna ? Joined less than 24hours ago. No credibility.
@Eddie Haskell get your IT guys onto this like we did with the uncle Wong / trendsetter bloke reverse scamming.

I can tell you bro this guy might be a gen150 alt or someone of similar mental instability.

I wouldn't trust anything someone says who keeps his IQ at room temperature

I was thinking gen150 straight away LOL. Still no evidence to prove haha I think this case is settled, fuck this shit talking dog off this platform.

 

[Yuri]

I was thinking gen150 straight away LOL. Still no evidence to prove haha I think this case is settled, fuck this shit talking dog off this platform.

Agreed bro, case settled by the au community.

Digesting 10mg of quality Raptor Labs anavar as I type this

It’s clear as day this had and has zero substance, one false accusation made with zero screen shots, transactions or evidence supplied > followed by the dude not replying to the shit storm accusation started.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Digesting 10mg of quality Raptor Labs anavar as I type this

And yes agreed, as it’s clear old mate vanished lol.

 

[B3rnie]

This Gen150/Anabolixxx has serious mental health issues. I can bet my left nut it's the same guy just by the long winded rants and no evidence to back it. Don't be surprised if next week a new account says how they got ripped but Anabolixxx saved the day. Got to be a way to bone in on this troll and wipe him from everywhere.

 

[CypherOCE]

Catboy strikes again

 

[Pigsy]

As no Proof has been brought forward. This rubbish about Raptor Rebranding should be put to bed.

 

[Noah Wixx]

I wont make any moves or cast any judgment nor take any actions without cold hard facts and concrete evidence showing a scam, without that nothing is going to be done, we dont work off fiction only facts on evo.

 

[Raptor Labs]

After seeing all this unfold, we would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank Gen150/Anabolixxx/Stanna.

Despite the recent threads attempting to defame us and make us look bad, they have only highlighted the incredible support we have.

This kind of support from everyone is the reason we do what we do, eg the hybrid seizure reships. We never posted about it or did it for attention (but now that it’s been brought up), we did it for you.

We were fortunate enough to be in a position where we could help Hybrid while also supporting their loyal customers. It was neither Hybrids fault nor their customers, that this seizure happened.

Most importantly, thank you to everyone who has defended our name, and a special thank you to the admin team for further investigating this matter.

 

[Noah Wixx]

After seeing all this unfold, we would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank Gen150/Anabolixxx/Stanna.

Despite the recent threads attempting to defame us and make us look bad, they have only highlighted the incredible support we have.

This kind of support from everyone is the reason we do what we do, eg the hybrid seizure reships. We never posted about it or did it for attention (but now that it’s been brought up), we did it for you.

We were fortunate enough to be in a position where we could help Hybrid while also supporting their loyal customers. It was neither Hybrids fault nor their customers, that this seizure happened.

Most importantly, thank you to everyone who has defended our name, and a special thank you to the admin team for further investigating this matter.

Anytime it is what we are here for, if the person in question doing the accusing cant provide me, screen shots of communication between him and hybrid, cant provide me crypto screen shot of the transaction and screen shots it was truly hybrid or any other lab for that matter, if u cant provide me with straight physical evidence and only can provide me words with nothing else. I myself cant in good faith take action against a lab, we have a protocol around here that we follow for reasons like this situation.

 

[Trenhead3cc]

You would think after some bold accusations mind you as soon as he joined Evo. He wouldn’t go mia and not log in for the next 36hours and provide some form of evidence.

Geez I hope gen150 that his sick cat is ok. I fear the worst may of happened.

 

[BigCheese2000]

You would think after some bold accusations mind you as soon as he joined Evo. He wouldn’t go mia and not log in for the next 36hours and provide some form of evidence.

Geez I hope gen150 that his sick cat is ok. I fear the worst may of happened.

On the glass didgeridoo no doubt trying to tarnish a vendor with an insane set of reviews to back it up

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Geez I hope gen150 that his sick cat is ok. I fear the worst may of happened.

@Trenhead3cc make sure thats not a threat bro, those are against TOS even though this @stanna is a fool dont do it
correct what you said by quoting yourself

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Anytime it is what we are here for, if the person in question doing the accusing cant provide me, screen shots of communication between him and hybrid, cant provide me crypto screen shot of the transaction and screen shots it was truly hybrid or any other lab for that matter, if u cant provide me with straight physical evidence and only can provide me words with nothing else. I myself cant in good faith take action against a lab, we have a protocol around here that we follow for reasons like this situation.

@Noah Wixx agreed bro looks like straight up con scam by @stanna

 

[Northside]

Mans really thought he was going to diss raptor and all his homies wasn’t gonna say nothing, back to the drawing board champ

 

[Dirt]

All this posting is just massaging this guys ego

 

[Trenhead3cc]

@Trenhead3cc make sure thats not a threat bro, those are against TOS even though this @stanna is a fool dont do it
correct what you said by quoting yourself

That’s not a threat bro.
Gen150 who went on a tangent last time cried poor about his cat being sick to leverage better pricing from the vendor. Who then was reselling at 2.5x his buy price to “mates”

 

[Coolguy]

You would think after some bold accusations mind you as soon as he joined Evo. He wouldn’t go mia and not log in for the next 36hours and provide some form of evidence.

Geez I hope gen150 that his sick cat is ok. I fear the worst may of happened.

Hes only got days left to live surely.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

That’s not a threat bro.
Gen150 who went on a tangent last time cried poor about his cat being sick to leverage better pricing from the vendor. Who then was reselling at 2.5x his buy price to “mates”

i checked back bro i get it, saw his convo about sick cat lol

 

[dino]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

 

[Dirt]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

How many accounts you got you nut job ?

 

[Ratatata]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

Ok mr rhino






Opps sorry mr dino

 

[Dirt]

Ok mr rhino






Opps sorry mr dino

Nah I think it’s our mate gen again

 

[Ratatata]

Nah I think it’s our mate gen again

Jst a typing mistake

 

[RhinoUGL]

Jst a typing mistake

Bruz I got better things to do, Raptor is a solid lab, everyone here knows that.

 

[CCGrinder]

Didn't read half of it but 4k on one order? is that right??

 

[CCGrinder]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

You smoke crack... you on the crack eh 60% bb fuckn rookie numbers

 

[Pigsy]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

Put up evidence, or you just a troll.

 

[Mme]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

So what should 150mg/wk of fully dosed test do to my blood if this is what Raptors did?

You fucking clown

 

[Yuri]

Didn't read half of it but 4k on one order? is that right??

You don’t need to read the other half my bro the cunt is cooked

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

i read all the thread damn drama with aussie bros
i can safely say Raptor aint Hybrid, mod input

@Eddie Haskell check this we should add some community notes to his first post

 

[Eddie Haskell]

i read all the thread damn drama with aussie bros
i can safely say Raptor aint Hybrid, mod input

@Eddie Haskell check this we should add some community notes to his first post

I put this up to management to confirm. Good idea

 

[Tricks666]

Bought through Raptor a couple of times without any issues and will continue till I have reason to stop.

 

[Tricks666]

Raptor sells underdosed china finished vials, most are clear because there brewed with 60% bb to make the solution lighter
Does all these giveaways because nobody buys his stock

False. Ive done a ped test on mine from him and tested good

 

[LiveLiftLoad]

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

 

[UGL OZ]

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

there's multiple Aussie labs that rock those transparent labels. they're quick and easy to make and eliminate the need of a third-party printer. lots of labs launch with those and then transition to the fancy holographic and reflective foils. others choose to keep them. there's no connection there.

- Hybrid sent packs.
- packs got seized.
- Hybrid took a short break.
- Raptor (under no obligation and entirely of his own free will) offered to resend packs on Hybrid's behalf.

the only connection here is that Raptor offered to help another Aussie lab and their customers. it was a good deed, yet troll accounts like @stanna and @dino are posting trash to try villainise them for it. you're right: @Raptor Labs is a good bloke. people are just quick to find fault in anything, even in the good.

there's no foul play here.

AJ

 

[Pigsy]

there's multiple Aussie labs that rock those transparent labels. they're quick and easy to make and eliminate the need of a third-party printer. lots of labs launch with those and then transition to the fancy holographic and reflective foils. others choose to keep them. there's no connection there.

- Hybrid sent packs.
- packs got seized.
- Hybrid took a short break.
- Raptor (under no obligation and entirely of his own free will) offered to resend packs on Hybrid's behalf.

the only connection here is that Raptor offered to help another Aussie lab and their customers. it was a good deed, yet troll accounts like @stanna and @dino are posting trash to try villainise them for it. you're right: @Raptor Labs is a good bloke. people are just quick to find fault in anything, even in the good.

there's no foul play here.

AJ

Exactly there just trolling. They bring nothing to the EVO family. And anything that they say should be dismissed

 

[Northside]

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

Quite a lot of information you seem to know for a fella that has a new member banner and has only commented on this thread. Questionable?

 

[Dirt]

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

The lable maker is sold at office work for fucks sake.

 

[Anabolik_chikin]

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

Yup I defend good people, just like 20 other dudes on this thread are. That means nothing. Raptor are my friends

Raptor were already established before hybrid had his issues, that’s not how rebrands work

As AJ dirt said, printers can be purchased easily. BBL, wildcat, silverback etc all used the same thing.

He’s completely off his rocker and this whole thing is put to bed

 

[Eveflorence]

I don't understand how threads such as these are allowed to stay open this long. Some bloke makes an outrageous claim backed by no proof whatsoever, which everyone knows is a lie, then he disappears. Can it be locked?

 

[UGL OZ]

I don't understand how threads such as these are allowed to stay open this long. Some bloke makes an outrageous claim backed by no proof whatsoever, which everyone knows is a lie, then he disappears. Can it be locked?

agreed brother!

@Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Pigsy is it possible to have this thread locked? it's been confirmed by multiple members of the mod team that these claims were frivolous. any further discussion at this point is not contributing anything of value.

AJ

 

[Eddie Haskell]

agreed brother!

@Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Pigsy is it possible to have this thread locked? it's been confirmed by multiple members of the mod team that these claims were frivolous. any further discussion at this point is not contributing anything of value.

AJ

We are reviewing the situation based on your request @UGL OZ

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Community Notes for this thread:

G'day everyone. Not too big on boards would just order my stuff and get on with life. I know alot of people here were big on hybrid. I did a big order with hybrid in november and haven't got anything up to now. Kept trying to make contact and he said he would get it altogether so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Now Feb 2025 and more than 4k down and nothing coming. I admit I should've figured it was a scam but what can you do hey. I just want to warn you guys that he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk" board. Who knows where else. Just stay safe out there ty. I expect I won't get a warm reception but its worth posting this to help 1 person not to fall for a scam. The scam is 10000% selective and you wont know its real until it happens to you on a big or even small order...

OP @stanna made a claim that raptor is the same source as hybrid.

The claim was supported by other views by other members:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694529

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

It was explained by @UGL OZ what actually happened:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694540

there's multiple Aussie labs that rock those transparent labels. they're quick and easy to make and eliminate the need of a third-party printer. lots of labs launch with those and then transition to the fancy holographic and reflective foils. others choose to keep them. there's no connection there.

- Hybrid sent packs.
- packs got seized.
- Hybrid took a short break.
- Raptor (under no obligation and entirely of his own free will) offered to resend packs on Hybrid's behalf.

the only connection here is that Raptor offered to help another Aussie lab and their customers. it was a good deed, yet troll accounts like @stanna and @dino are posting trash to try villainise them for it. you're right: @Raptor Labs is a good bloke. people are just quick to find fault in anything, even in the good.

there's no foul play here.

AJ

- Hybrid sent packs.
- packs got seized.
- Hybrid took a short break.
- Raptor (under no obligation and entirely of his own free will) offered to resend packs on Hybrid's behalf.

However, we would like to add moderator notes (based on our analysis of the situation):
Hybrid labs was a vendor on EVO for many years. He had 2 big issues and problems that are well known to the community.
1) was the seizure we are aware of, a ton of packages sized and he was asking others to reship. This is the above issue @ugloz referred to.
after this event, he came back
2) After coming back, recently in the past 30 days Hybrid had another legal issue, again someone there was arrested and/or raided. Again he went MIA and he was suspended for it:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...aus-domestic-announcements.96487/post-1680261

@HybridLabs @Hybrid Labs Rep have been suspended until further notice. Due to multiple unfulfilled orders and unresolved issues.

We suggest staying away from hybrid at this point.

3) "HE", and I use " quotes " as we dont know who he is or if its him, in about 2 weeks after #2 (he went MIA) and sent a DM to me (with an alter) and other mods saying he had serious legal troubles.
We told him, quit while you're ahead. And I will actually quote my DM to him in the open here:

Sorry to hear about your situation.[REDACTED]

I will make a suggestion to you. Please consider it.
It sounds like it’s time for you to retire.
Even the great boxers know when to quit, and the ones that don’t end up with brain damage.

For your own long term wellbeing being. [REDACTED]

@Pigsy @LevButlerov check please.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

 

[UGL OZ]

Community Notes for this thread:


OP @stanna made a claim that raptor is the same source as hybrid.

The claim was supported by other views by other members:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694529

It was explained by @UGL OZ what actually happened:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694540



However, we would like to add moderator notes (based on our analysis of the situation):
Hybrid labs was a vendor on EVO for many years. He had 2 big issues and problems that are well known to the community.
1) was the seizure we are aware of, a ton of packages sized and he was asking others to reship. This is the above issue @ugloz referred to.
after this event, he came back
2) After coming back, recently in the past 30 days Hybrid had another legal issue, again someone there was arrested and/or raided. Again he went MIA and he was suspended for it:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...aus-domestic-announcements.96487/post-1680261

3) "HE", and I use " quotes " as we dont know who he is or if its him, in about 2 weeks after #2 (he went MIA) and sent a DM to me (with an alter) and other mods saying he had serious legal troubles.
We told him, quit while you're ahead. And I will actually quote my DM to him in the open here:


@Pigsy @LevButlerov check please.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

@Eddie Haskell i understand your request for a mod review (and have no place commenting in that capacity and i'm not looking to overstep any boundaries) - but I would like to offer a different perspective that i think articulates the sentiment of the posters in this thread. it is true that Hybrid has faced significant challenges (no one is denying that) however this thread seems to have been primarily established to discredit @Raptor Labs through entirely unsubstantiated claims, which could potentially damage the reputation of a highly respected member of both this board and the EVO family.

@Raptor Labs has earned the title of V.I.P. through consistent delivery of top-tier service and products to our community and he demonstrated this very commitment by offering to reship parcels on Hybrid's behalf - assisting both a competing vendor and this community when they needed it most.

yet we now find ourselves engaged in lengthy debates that are filled with posts from new accounts attempting to tarnish his reputation for simply doing a good deed. we all acknowledge that Hybrid has encountered issues, but the focus here is solely on defending @Raptor Labs against the falsehoods. one look at this post should give you all the insight you need into the motivations of these people posting.

AJ

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@Eddie Haskell i understand your request for a mod review (and have no place commenting in that capacity and i'm not looking to overstep any boundaries) - but I would like to offer a different perspective that i think articulates the sentiment of the posters in this thread. it is true that Hybrid has faced significant challenges (no one is denying that) however this thread seems to have been primarily established to discredit @Raptor Labs through entirely unsubstantiated claims, which could potentially damage the reputation of a highly respected member of both this board and the EVO family.

@Raptor Labs has earned the title of V.I.P. through consistent delivery of top-tier service and products to our community and he demonstrated this very commitment by offering to reship parcels on Hybrid's behalf - assisting both a competing vendor and this community when they needed it most.

yet we now find ourselves engaged in lengthy debates that are filled with posts from new accounts attempting to tarnish his reputation for simply doing a good deed. we all acknowledge that Hybrid has encountered issues, but the focus here is solely on defending @Raptor Labs against the falsehoods. one look at this post should give you all the insight you need into the motivations of these people posting.

AJ

@UGL OZ yes @Pigsy told me the same thing. I agreed and so does management.

Community notes update:
Raptor labs is NOT Hybrid labs based on community feedback in this thread.

 

[Pigsy]

@UGL OZ yes @Pigsy told me the same thing. I agreed and so does management.

Community notes update:
Raptor labs is NOT Hybrid labs based on community feedback in this thread.

This should settle this once and for all

 

[Yuri]

@Eddie Haskell i understand your request for a mod review (and have no place commenting in that capacity and i'm not looking to overstep any boundaries) - but I would like to offer a different perspective that i think articulates the sentiment of the posters in this thread. it is true that Hybrid has faced significant challenges (no one is denying that) however this thread seems to have been primarily established to discredit @Raptor Labs through entirely unsubstantiated claims, which could potentially damage the reputation of a highly respected member of both this board and the EVO family.

@Raptor Labs has earned the title of V.I.P. through consistent delivery of top-tier service and products to our community and he demonstrated this very commitment by offering to reship parcels on Hybrid's behalf - assisting both a competing vendor and this community when they needed it most.

yet we now find ourselves engaged in lengthy debates that are filled with posts from new accounts attempting to tarnish his reputation for simply doing a good deed. we all acknowledge that Hybrid has encountered issues, but the focus here is solely on defending @Raptor Labs against the falsehoods. one look at this post should give you all the insight you need into the motivations of these people posting.

AJ

Better articulated then any of us could have stayed AJ

 

[Anabolik_chikin]

Community Notes for this thread:


OP @stanna made a claim that raptor is the same source as hybrid.

The claim was supported by other views by other members:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694529

It was explained by @UGL OZ what actually happened:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694540



However, we would like to add moderator notes (based on our analysis of the situation):
Hybrid labs was a vendor on EVO for many years. He had 2 big issues and problems that are well known to the community.
1) was the seizure we are aware of, a ton of packages sized and he was asking others to reship. This is the above issue @ugloz referred to.
after this event, he came back
2) After coming back, recently in the past 30 days Hybrid had another legal issue, again someone there was arrested and/or raided. Again he went MIA and he was suspended for it:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...aus-domestic-announcements.96487/post-1680261

3) "HE", and I use " quotes " as we dont know who he is or if its him, in about 2 weeks after #2 (he went MIA) and sent a DM to me (with an alter) and other mods saying he had serious legal troubles.
We told him, quit while you're ahead. And I will actually quote my DM to him in the open here:


@Pigsy @LevButlerov check please.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

His shipper was raided, but no charges laid. I believe he moved operation to a different state all together.
The two situations were really one situation. The shipper fucked up and was raided because of his mistakes. Hybrid himself has no legal issues and has since moved.

Irrelevant to the raptor situation but just wanted to make that clear

 

[Eddie Haskell]

His shipper was raided, but no charges laid. I believe he moved operation to a different state all together.
The two situations were really one situation. The shipper fucked up and was raided because of his mistakes. Hybrid himself has no legal issues and has since moved.

Irrelevant to the raptor situation but just wanted to make that clear

I rather not share the info we have in private. It might be too damaging for him.

Needless to say, I stand by what I said about hybrid.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

Further this thread has a closer now

Community notes update:
Raptor labs is NOT Hybrid labs based on community feedback in this thread.

Locked!