BA/BB build up?

[Nattybro123]

Hey all,
Don't push too much yet read lots of info from here.

For the last.. however long i can remember.. I've been genuinely feeling like I'm sick 24/7. Slight headache, breathing through a wet paper bag, and my feet throb so bad of an evening it feels like someone's pulling my toes apart. My joints ache all over. Constant feeling of pressure in the eyes, despite no testing indicating it is the case. Genuinely just feel like you do the night you get the flu- where you can feel it in your bones.

I've been trying to find a doctor who will actually spend more than 5 minutes with me rather than rush me out the door to the next patient.

I had bloods done 2 months ago, all markers were fine. Got an ECG done, all fine. Comprehensive medical done 4 months ago, all fine. So I've been slowly reducing everything I take to the point where it's just 20mg of test prop a day (planning to PCT in 2 weeks). Have been self administering TRT for 4 years.

I started wondering if it is a potential reaction to BB/BA? A build up in the body? And just curious if anyone else has experienced anything similar?

 

[stevesmi]

seems like the best thing you can do is stop taking it and see if the issue goes away then you will know

your case seems extreme but its certainly possible you are allergic

 

[Nattybro123]

yeah, it's what I am working towards now.. just giving myself the easiest fall into PCT. Starting to get worried, tbh. I can't seem to find a doctor who will listen either.

 

[stevesmi]

yeah, it's what I am working towards now.. just giving myself the easiest fall into PCT. Starting to get worried, tbh. I can't seem to find a doctor who will listen either.

really a doctors hands are tied in this situation
they can write you a script for a cortico and that will shut off your bodies defense mechanism, but in the process you will end up with horrible side effects
your best bet is figure this one out on your own

 

[Nattybro123]

Thanks mate. Certainly looking forward to getting to the bottom of it. It's so bad I am really struggling to hold a job.. I am self employed and made good money before, so I have a bit of savings behind me. I have to sleep every few hours.. i just genuinely feel "poisoned"

 

[Mobster]

A build up? Np. But an allergic reaction for sure. I've stuff I ca't eat now that I used to pound back in the day. Same can happen with meds

I've also seen some poorer UGLs change concentrations which can cause issues

 

[dylangemelli]

seems like the best thing you can do is stop taking it and see if the issue goes away then you will know

your case seems extreme but its certainly possible you are allergic

@stevesmi really gave you the best advice.. its trial and error or addition by subtraction... you will know from dropping it if that is in fact the issue or not

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Hey all,
Don't push too much yet read lots of info from here.

For the last.. however long i can remember.. I've been genuinely feeling like I'm sick 24/7. Slight headache, breathing through a wet paper bag, and my feet throb so bad of an evening it feels like someone's pulling my toes apart. My joints ache all over. Constant feeling of pressure in the eyes, despite no testing indicating it is the case. Genuinely just feel like you do the night you get the flu- where you can feel it in your bones.

I've been trying to find a doctor who will actually spend more than 5 minutes with me rather than rush me out the door to the next patient.

I had bloods done 2 months ago, all markers were fine. Got an ECG done, all fine. Comprehensive medical done 4 months ago, all fine. So I've been slowly reducing everything I take to the point where it's just 20mg of test prop a day (planning to PCT in 2 weeks). Have been self administering TRT for 4 years.

I started wondering if it is a potential reaction to BB/BA? A build up in the body? And just curious if anyone else has experienced anything similar?

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[25homes]

cant see this being build up at all bro think you allergic or something

 

[ceo]

Bros this isn't the way to live life
make sure that you get this situation taken care of

 

[ROIDDERS]

if you post up what you're doing every day and log it
then we'll be able to tell you what's bothering you and what isn't

 

[chesty]

there are different things when it comes to allergies
it could be the foods you're eating it could be your pets at home it could be a lot of different things

 

[Ulter]

sounds like it could be the gear itself
but you have to find that out first before anything

 

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[e2]

log this experience for sure
we definitely need to know what's going on and we definitely want to help you on this one

 

[2Thick]

can you definitely put up a log for us?
You have my curiosity definitely peaked I want to find out what's going on

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

a log journal is crucial on this one
if it does turn out to be the gear then we can definitely steer you in a different direction

 

[MONSTRO]

monstros says that you can try using some Benadryl and see if the problem goes away
then you will know if it's an allergy or not

 

[ballin2504]

Looks like Stevesmi is on the right track here

 

[Noah Wixx]

Steve gave some good insight into the topic, hopefully you get some answers!

 

[Nattybro123]

So sorry lads, I lost my password to this account and only just relogged in to post on another thread.

I ended up solving this -- I changed vendors and also compounds. I switched to Test Undec, minimal dosing. After a few weeks, it started to get a lot better. I reduced caffeine to 1 cup of coffee in the morning. Dropped all stims, preworkouts, etc.

I maintain to this day that it was an inflammation buildup caused by years of military service & powerlifting (for context, I was deadlifting 3x my bodyweight at 23, with a few powerlifting competitions and records to my name). After 12 months of taking it easy, minimal gym and exercise (just mainly walking, weights 3x a week but only basics), I'm on top of this and ready to get back into the swing of things.

 

[LevButlerov]

So sorry lads, I lost my password to this account and only just relogged in to post on another thread.

I ended up solving this -- I changed vendors and also compounds. I switched to Test Undec, minimal dosing. After a few weeks, it started to get a lot better. I reduced caffeine to 1 cup of coffee in the morning. Dropped all stims, preworkouts, etc.

I maintain to this day that it was an inflammation buildup caused by years of military service & powerlifting (for context, I was deadlifting 3x my bodyweight at 23, with a few powerlifting competitions and records to my name). After 12 months of taking it easy, minimal gym and exercise (just mainly walking, weights 3x a week but only basics), I'm on top of this and ready to get back into the swing of things.

what was your old account username? @Nattybro123