New Fighters Cycle options

[MMAKID008]

Hi forum, I’m 39 years old and new to using anabolic steroids. I’m 5’9 and currently 95kg, training MMA/Gym 5 times per week. My fight weight is 83-84kg.



I have over 10 years of training/gym experience and decided to started with 50mg of Anavar daily for 8-weeks ; feeling great. I’m 2 weeks away from starting my post-cycle therapy and I’m considering transitioning to Suss250 for my next cycle.



I’m seeking opinions on this plan. I figure Suss250 would be better than an oral steroid. I would welcome any advice or other options. Thanks in advance

 

[rememberTHE5]

No interest in sarms ?

 

[Wsrey1969]

When I was fighting I ran EQ and a little bit of test. Boosted red blood cells and I didn't put on any weight really. If you're getting tested EPO is an option.

 

[dylangemelli]

not really easy to be a mind reader as you make zero mention of your goals and you need time off in between cycles.. if you ran anavar 8 weeks, which is too long for an oral steroid as it is, then 4 weeks of pct, thats a total of 12 weeks on so you need a MINIMUM of 12 weeks off, so you are several months away from using another steroid as it is

 

[MMAKID008]

No interest in sarms ?

I have not read much about Sarms? But it’s on my radar now. To be honest, I like the feeling of higher test.

 

[MMAKID008]

When I was fighting I ran EQ and a little bit of test. Boosted red blood cells and I didn't put on any weight really. If you're getting tested EPO is an option.

EQ is something I’m looking into.. thanks for the advice, I’ll put it on the list. In regard's to Test, what type did you choose?

 

[MMAKID008]

not really easy to be a mind reader as you make zero mention of your goals and you need time off in between cycles.. if you ran anavar 8 weeks, which is too long for an oral steroid as it is, then 4 weeks of pct, thats a total of 12 weeks on so you need a MINIMUM of 12 weeks off, so you are several months away from using another steroid as it is

Fair comment my goal is be 84kg and feel great.. the feeling and motivation ive felt on Anavar is fantastic. I feel 20 again.

I’ve the fat to lose, and maybe 2-3kg of water weight. So if I can turn that fat into a bit of muscle, I would be happy.

You’re right, I’m months away from another cycle. Im trying to figure out my next move

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hi forum, I’m 39 years old and new to using anabolic steroids. I’m 5’9 and currently 95kg, training MMA/Gym 5 times per week. My fight weight is 83-84kg.



I have over 10 years of training/gym experience and decided to started with 50mg of Anavar daily for 8-weeks ; feeling great. I’m 2 weeks away from starting my post-cycle therapy and I’m considering transitioning to Suss250 for my next cycle.



I’m seeking opinions on this plan. I figure Suss250 would be better than an oral steroid. I would welcome any advice or other options. Thanks in advance

Fair comment my goal is be 84kg and feel great.. the feeling and motivation ive felt on Anavar is fantastic. I feel 20 again.

I’ve the fat to lose, and maybe 2-3kg of water weight. So if I can turn that fat into a bit of muscle, I would be happy.

You’re right, I’m months away from another cycle. Im trying to figure out my next move

@MMAKID008 welcome to the evolutionary.org family and we have a few MMA fighters that did logs in the past with cycles.

I can suggest a few cycles including eq and gw but before we suggest cycles to you or using anything, as @dylangemelli said above, we dont know anything about you. We need you to start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary with your training, diet, supplements, pics, and detailed history and we can start to guide you properly into a cycle.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre MMA-cycle Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-testosterone-trenbolone-cycle-log-part-2.90696/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cycle-diet-training-log.90712/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/supertiredwantfood-high-protein-log-female.95670/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-log-for-2023.87439/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/littletimetrouble-big-time-trt-log.90656/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ning-strength-staying-lean-third-cycle.96026/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/log-macs-bulk-2023.89802/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dbol-and-test-cypionate-10-week-log.90745/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-trt-log.90735/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

 

[stevesmi]

sustanon is a blend of 4 test esters
if you have low test before then of course it will give you a boost

anavar might not be feasible for much longer cause of the pumps it gives you. the best one for MMA IMO would be tbol and EQ if i had to guess. but i never did MMA so its just a guess based on other htings i have done FYI

 

[Wsrey1969]

I was using Test E. Good luck man. Don't ever tap

EQ is something I’m looking into.. thanks for the advice, I’ll put it on the list. In regard's to Test, what type did you choose?

 

[ceo]

bros this has potential to be an epic log
Can you get some pictures up of you fighting or some videos that would be cool to see

 

[ROIDDERS]

steroids can definitely help you but you have to use them smart
also you need to use them to bring up your weaknesses without hurting yourself

 

[chesty]

tell us more about your training exactly and what you want to use the steroids for
if it's just for aggression before a fight then there are things you can use but if it's to help you boost your training there's other things you can use

 

[Ulter]

definitely get a log Journal going in detail exactly what you're doing and what you're struggling with
full pictures would be awesome just blur out your face so you stay anonymous

 

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[e2]

MMA guys are obviously on steroids that's a given
now which steroids they use I think it's a combination of things but they also will experiment with different ones to see which works best for them
that's what you have to do and why a log is essential

 

[2Thick]

make sure you log your journey for us
get steroids that won't hurt your workouts. won't cause pumps and won't hurt endurance

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

don't use tren IMO
tren is really bad for endurance and will increase fatigue too much
if I'm you I go with equipoise and some testosterone to start

 

[MONSTRO]

HGH too is really good
do a log journal
when I did my log it helped me earn my Pro card

 

[25homes]

Hi forum, I’m 39 years old and new to using anabolic steroids. I’m 5’9 and currently 95kg, training MMA/Gym 5 times per week. My fight weight is 83-84kg.



I have over 10 years of training/gym experience and decided to started with 50mg of Anavar daily for 8-weeks ; feeling great. I’m 2 weeks away from starting my post-cycle therapy and I’m considering transitioning to Suss250 for my next cycle.



I’m seeking opinions on this plan. I figure Suss250 would be better than an oral steroid. I would welcome any advice or other options. Thanks in advance

DO your PCT then wait 10 weeks. start Sust then at 350mg weekly for 10 weeks can use oral in the front or back half of this cycle like first 6t or last 6 weeks. Go to @domestic-supply.com for the best SUST available

 

[Mobster]

Will you compete in MMA and if so do they drug test you?

 

[dylangemelli]

Fair comment my goal is be 84kg and feel great.. the feeling and motivation ive felt on Anavar is fantastic. I feel 20 again.

I’ve the fat to lose, and maybe 2-3kg of water weight. So if I can turn that fat into a bit of muscle, I would be happy.

You’re right, I’m months away from another cycle. Im trying to figure out my next move

i would look at sarms right now especially considering you have fat to lose.. you do not want higher body fat when using any steroid as you are far more susceptible to problems and side effects if you do...

i would recommend running a sarms bridge now, then as you get near of the end of the bridge, THEN decide what to do next on a cycle.. you are a ways off from there and goals will likely change at that point...

here is what i would look at


for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 AC-262 (Accadrine) 10 mg first two weeks then bump to 20 mg per day once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

With test, just make sure to run it lower and keep estrogen under control. It could be counterproductive to your MMA goals.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Yeah personally I'd be running gw and sr9009 for tje endurance benefits

 

[Wsrey1969]

This will be be my 5 week mark.
My strength has gone up some even though I lost approx 6lbs in the same time period. I'm getting a little more vascular and it has rounded out my shoulders.
I feel really good on it, sleep well and it's not doing anything crazy with my appetite except for the first two weeks.
From what I understand, it's around week 7 that it really hits. So far, it's fairly mild.
I'll get my blood work done next week and see what it did to that. I'll post some pics of a month ago and tomorrow and see what the camera has to say.

 

[MMAKID008]

Will you compete in MMA and if so do they drug test you?

i would look at sarms right now especially considering you have fat to lose.. you do not want higher body fat when using any steroid as you are far more susceptible to problems and side effects if you do...

i would recommend running a sarms bridge now, then as you get near of the end of the bridge, THEN decide what to do next on a cycle.. you are a ways off from there and goals will likely change at that point...

here is what i would look at


for the best quality sarms check out https://umbrellalabs.is

1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 AC-262 (Accadrine) 10 mg first two weeks then bump to 20 mg per day once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 n2guard

Mini pct 13-16

Clomid 50/25/25/25 OR Nolva 40/20/20/20
Gw-501516 20 mg day

Firstly, thanks for advice, really appreciate your suggestions.
I'll check out what I can do with Sarms, and I'm ready with my PCT, novel 40/20/20/20

 

[MMAKID008]

Will you compete in MMA and if so do they drug test you?

These comps are in Thailand and unranked and not tested.
Tourist vs Thai, Not really serious. It's more of a show.

 

[MMAKID008]

No interest in sarms ?

No interest in sarms ?

@MMAKID008 welcome to the evolutionary.org family and we have a few MMA fighters that did logs in the past with cycles.

I can suggest a few cycles including eq and gw but before we suggest cycles to you or using anything, as @dylangemelli said above, we dont know anything about you. We need you to start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary with your training, diet, supplements, pics, and detailed history and we can start to guide you properly into a cycle.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre MMA-cycle Diet Training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-testosterone-trenbolone-cycle-log-part-2.90696/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cycle-diet-training-log.90712/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/supertiredwantfood-high-protein-log-female.95670/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-log-for-2023.87439/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/littletimetrouble-big-time-trt-log.90656/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ning-strength-staying-lean-third-cycle.96026/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/log-macs-bulk-2023.89802/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dbol-and-test-cypionate-10-week-log.90745/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-trt-log.90735/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

It's very motivating to have so much information and people offering their help.
I'll get working on my LOG asap, and also check out the podcast. Thanks very much for having me.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

It's very motivating to have so much information and people offering their help.
I'll get working on my LOG asap, and also check out the podcast. Thanks very much for having me.

@MMAKID008 awesome waiting on your LOG, we are here to help you bro

 

[Mobster]

These comps are in Thailand and unranked and not tested.
Tourist vs Thai, Not really serious. It's more of a show.

Good. Lots of pros get tested and fail.

 

[dylangemelli]

Firstly, thanks for advice, really appreciate your suggestions.
I'll check out what I can do with Sarms, and I'm ready with my PCT, novel 40/20/20/20

thats not even remotely close to a full pct and will do next to nothing for you


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[ballin2504]

Looks like the guys got ya covered here. Best of luck

 

[MMAKID008]

thats not even remotely close to a full pct and will do next to nothing for you


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

Ok, I'm on it. I'll ask around for suppliers right away.

And thanks again for all the help and advice. This is brilliant.

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok, I'm on it. I'll ask around for suppliers right away.

And thanks again for all the help and advice. This is brilliant.

happy to help bro

for sarms the best quality you can find is with umbrella labs

for pct, if you check reviews you can easily see that @domestic-supply.com is by far the highest rated out there