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I suspect @BigBoyLabs HGH is fake

LeakingCoffee

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I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.

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LeakingCoffee said:
I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.
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@LeakingCoffee anything is possible, but we should hear out @BigBoyLabs part in this.

I think 2 days of use is not a reasonable time to determine quality. Such a short period is not a determination of product quality, especially without bloods.
You should look into 191 vs 192 amino acid hgh as well.
Last, your storage and reconstitution of the hgh is also factor to consider.
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@LeakingCoffee anything is possible, but we should hear out @BigBoyLabs part in this.

I think 2 days of use is not a reasonable time to determine quality. Such a short period is not a determination of product quality, especially without bloods.
You should look into 191 vs 192 amino acid hgh as well.
Last, your storage and reconstitution of the hgh is also factor to consider.
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my storage and reconstitution is exactly the same as I have used for the previous one which was working very well. You feel the effect of real HGH in just 2 hours if one injects 5iu, two days are more than enough. I agree that blood test would be a concrete proof but the problem is that after spending $200 more on blood test what will get in return, just a middle finger from bigBoy
 
LeakingCoffee said:
I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.
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I have honestly never felt so tired after taking GH that I couldn't function. I've taken 10+iu pharma GH and never had any "feelings" but carpel tunnel.
My advice before bashing someone publicly is to have your product tested. If it's fake then bigboy can be pressured to make it right by the forums that support him. Just making a claim with no proof to back it up is bad form.
If your not getting a response from BB then DM a mod so we can help you.
 
LeakingCoffee said:
my storage and reconstitution is exactly the same as I have used for the previous one which was working very well. You feel the effect of real HGH in just 2 hours if one injects 5iu, two days are more than enough. I agree that blood test would be a concrete proof but the problem is that after spending $200 more on blood test what will get in return, just a middle finger from bigBoy
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Pretty sure on imedical you can get the necessary tests to check your levels but isn’t anywhere near 200. @Eveflorence could chime in on the particular test you have to get but I believe it’s just hgh which would run ya 48 bucks in imed
 
ok, I will do the blood test and will post the results here. But I have to keep injecting the same 5iu for three weeks and then do the test, just to be fair with my accusations. Currently my hgh levels in blood are already good because of the previous vendor hgh that was working very very well.
I will come and post the blood tests right here
 
@LeakingCoffee mate if you're not willing to do a blood test to prove it's fake, you're being a sook.

The vials may well not have a vacuum seal (I don't know because I haven't used it), but that's subjective.

It doesn't cost $200 to test serum HGH and IGF1. iMedical tests HGH and IGF1 for $29 each (go check the website)

Without blood tests or HPLC reports, this is just unfair slander.

Go get the blood test (i hope you know when to time it), and then make your point.
 
TheOne1 said:
@LeakingCoffee mate if you're not willing to do a blood test to prove it's fake, you're being a sook.

The vials may well not have a vacuum seal (I don't know because I haven't used it), but that's subjective.

It doesn't cost $200 to test serum HGH and IGF1. iMedical tests HGH and IGF1 for $29 each (go check the website)

Without blood tests or HPLC reports, this is just unfair slander.

Go get the blood test (i hope you know when to time it), and then make your point.
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Personally running atm my vials are fine but could be an issue with his unsure on that. But agreed burden of proof is on this bloke, fairly wild statement to make without receipts. But if there’s any issues testing wise then absolutely fair
 
TheOne1 said:
@LeakingCoffee mate if you're not willing to do a blood test to prove it's fake, you're being a sook.

The vials may well not have a vacuum seal (I don't know because I haven't used it), but that's subjective.

It doesn't cost $200 to test serum HGH and IGF1. iMedical tests HGH and IGF1 for $29 each (go check the website)

Without blood tests or HPLC reports, this is just unfair slander.

Go get the blood test (i hope you know when to time it), and then make your point.
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agreed, I already posted that I will do the blood test and will post the results here!
 
LeakingCoffee said:
agreed, I already posted that I will do the blood test and will post the results here!
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Fantastic!

btw, also when you're trying a new supplier, it's worth making a small order for the first time to test it out for yourself. Also, ask if they have a recent HPLC report and for HGH specifically, if it's just relabeled Chinese generics (most honest suppliers will tell you it is as they all kinda get it from similar sources). There are 1-2 other sources who apparently vial it themselves, i'm not so sure about those tho, but can't know without testing it...
 
LeakingCoffee said:
agreed, I already posted that I will do the blood test and will post the results here!
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I hope you understand that for bloodwork you need to inject right before you go for testing. GH is a short acting compound. When you take it you get a "pulse". It not like test or other esterified drugs.

LeakingCoffee said:
But I have to keep injecting the same 5iu for three weeks and then do the test, just to be fair with my accusations. Currently my hgh levels in blood are already good because of the previous vendor hgh that was working very very well.
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If you've been taking the new stuff for a few weeks then your GTG. Your IGF will dip after a day of not taking exogenous GH.

You'd prob be better off sending the GH itself to be tested if you can.
 
BigCheese2000 said:
Pretty sure on imedical you can get the necessary tests to check your levels but isn’t anywhere near 200. @Eveflorence could chime in on the particular test you have to get but I believe it’s just hgh which would run ya 48 bucks in imed
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Thanks cheese yeah IGF-1 and HGH is what you want tested as others have stated. It's not necessarily just about your GH levels either, IGF is what we want to be looking at. @AE1079 is a plethora of knowledge when it comes to the mechanics of this maybe he can chime in?
 
Blood work evidence is required here. Before going off at a Vendor.

I personally don't feel anything other than slight hand tingling when on 10ius. But when looking in the mirror you notice changes
 
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LeakingCoffee said:
I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.
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And can you post everything your running at this present moment please
 
Hi mate

Just seen your message on Threema. I understand your concern with the product however I wish you'd given us a little time more than a few hours to reply on a Saturday evening.

On the back of reading this, we will be both sending off for fresh HPLC and having an independent third party complete blood testing.

Please let us know if you would like to return your remaining vials in exchange for a refund.

BBL
 
Also Bigboylabs has stated many times in the past that he and the team normally have weekends off, as they still have lives out of this world,

If u have an issue get in contact mon to fri and if they have time over the weekends they will respond,

Just like if u place an order on Sunday... obviously won't be posted till post office is open,

But good to hear u changed ur mind about getting bloods, without that, it's only ur word and when others are running the same product and having the effects that it should be, then this is even more reason to get ur bloods done...

Just my 2 cents
 
BigBoyLabs said:
Hi mate

Just seen your message on Threema. I understand your concern with the product however I wish you'd given us a little time more than a few hours to reply on a Saturday evening.

On the back of reading this, we will be both sending off for fresh HPLC and having an independent third party complete blood testing.

Please let us know if you would like to return your remaining vials in exchange for a refund.

BBL
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Speaking of hplc testing, how'd you go with all the tests you sent off late last year?
Very keen to hear about the DHB results
 
I know from my own personal experience, it wasnt right away, after about 3 weeks or so i would start to feel tired and lethargic from just 2iu of hgh, i never felt it right away, i noticed it was good abd working when my sleep quality really improved after 3 weeks of use, first week or 2 i could not feel or noticed anything, only after it started building in my system for a longer period did i notice i was super tired.
 
LeakingCoffee said:
I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.
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Allegations but won’t go and do the testing? Cmon man.

Talk to the guy and ask him if he’ll pay - you’ll probably have a response on Monday l, as he doesn’t usually respond over weekends.
 
BigBoyLabs said:
Hi mate

Just seen your message on Threema. I understand your concern with the product however I wish you'd given us a little time more than a few hours to reply on a Saturday evening.

On the back of reading this, we will be both sending off for fresh HPLC and having an independent third party complete blood testing.

Please let us know if you would like to return your remaining vials in exchange for a refund.

BBL
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Hello @BigBoyLabs,

1. First and foremost, I want to make it absolutely clear that I have nothing personal against you, nor am I acting on behalf of anyone to damage your reputation. I had no prior knowledge of you—I only placed an order because I never imagined I would need to doubt someone listed as a Verified supplier on the EVO forum, especially someone with VIP status. Well, now I do

2. You mentioned that you don’t work on weekends, which is why you didn’t respond. However, if it had been a weekday, you claim you would have replied. But after receiving my order, I sent you several messages on the 19th, which was a Wednesday, and you didn’t bother to respond at all. So, let’s be clear—you haven’t been responsive even on weekdays.
You’ve ignored my messages for the past 12 days, so how could I have expected a reply from you in the first place? Check Threema if you think I’m wrong.

3. It seems like everyone here is blindly supporting the vendor without addressing the real issue. No one has even mentioned the poor quality of the vials that I brought up. They are already punctured and filled with air. This time, I recorded a video and attached it here—please watch it. The moment I try to remove the cap, the entire seal comes off. Why is no one talking about this?
Even if the powder is legitimate, if the vials are full of air, the HGH may have already degraded. And who knows how long it was stored after manufacturing?
Check the attached video, everyone.

4.
I will definitely take the blood test to be fair, even if it means losing more money. I confirmed that it will cost me $77, which is still a significant amount. If the test proves that your HGH is genuine, I will publicly apologize to you on the forum, confirm the quality of your product, and even promote you—whatever you ask.
However, if the test shows that your HGH has not worked at all, I expect you to refund my $500 and step down from the verified list.

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LeakingCoffee said:
Hello @BigBoyLabs,

1. First and foremost, I want to make it absolutely clear that I have nothing personal against you, nor am I acting on behalf of anyone to damage your reputation. I had no prior knowledge of you—I only placed an order because I never imagined I would need to doubt someone listed as a Verified supplier on the EVO forum, especially someone with VIP status. Well, now I do

2. You mentioned that you don’t work on weekends, which is why you didn’t respond. However, if it had been a weekday, you claim you would have replied. But after receiving my order, I sent you several messages on the 19th, which was a Wednesday, and you didn’t bother to respond at all. So, let’s be clear—you haven’t been responsive even on weekdays.
You’ve ignored my messages for the past 12 days, so how could I have expected a reply from you in the first place? Check Threema if you think I’m wrong.

3. It seems like everyone here is blindly supporting the vendor without addressing the real issue. No one has even mentioned the poor quality of the vials that I brought up. They are already punctured and filled with air. This time, I recorded a video and attached it here—please watch it. The moment I try to remove the cap, the entire seal comes off. Why is no one talking about this?
Even if the powder is legitimate, if the vials are full of air, the HGH may have already degraded. And who knows how long it was stored after manufacturing?
Check the attached video, everyone.

4.
I will definitely take the blood test to be fair, even if it means losing more money. I confirmed that it will cost me $77, which is still a significant amount. If the test proves that your HGH is genuine, I will publicly apologize to you on the forum, confirm the quality of your product, and even promote you—whatever you ask.
However, if the test shows that your HGH has not worked at all, I expect you to refund my $500 and step down from the verified list.

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Hi again mate.

We do apologize for missing your message on the 19th questioning why you didn't receive a 'free gift'. Please note that when we said this what we meant when we said freebie was a sticker set that was most definitely included.

We also apologize for not being able to discount our GH which is more than fairly priced already, upon your request.

Further to our query above, if you'd like to return the remaining vials in return for a refund we would be more than happy to proceed.

If that is something that is of interest to you please do let us know.

Many thanks for your time.

BBL
 
LeakingCoffee said:
Hello @BigBoyLabs,

1. First and foremost, I want to make it absolutely clear that I have nothing personal against you, nor am I acting on behalf of anyone to damage your reputation. I had no prior knowledge of you—I only placed an order because I never imagined I would need to doubt someone listed as a Verified supplier on the EVO forum, especially someone with VIP status. Well, now I do

2. You mentioned that you don’t work on weekends, which is why you didn’t respond. However, if it had been a weekday, you claim you would have replied. But after receiving my order, I sent you several messages on the 19th, which was a Wednesday, and you didn’t bother to respond at all. So, let’s be clear—you haven’t been responsive even on weekdays.
You’ve ignored my messages for the past 12 days, so how could I have expected a reply from you in the first place? Check Threema if you think I’m wrong.

3. It seems like everyone here is blindly supporting the vendor without addressing the real issue. No one has even mentioned the poor quality of the vials that I brought up. They are already punctured and filled with air. This time, I recorded a video and attached it here—please watch it. The moment I try to remove the cap, the entire seal comes off. Why is no one talking about this?
Even if the powder is legitimate, if the vials are full of air, the HGH may have already degraded. And who knows how long it was stored after manufacturing?
Check the attached video, everyone.

4.
I will definitely take the blood test to be fair, even if it means losing more money. I confirmed that it will cost me $77, which is still a significant amount. If the test proves that your HGH is genuine, I will publicly apologize to you on the forum, confirm the quality of your product, and even promote you—whatever you ask.
However, if the test shows that your HGH has not worked at all, I expect you to refund my $500 and step down from the verified list.

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After watching the video, point 3 is concerning and probably reason for a refund or replacement alone. Vials definitely should not be doing that.
 
I looked at your log , nothing trying to shit on your physique or journey as we all start somewhere but as below of Mid January this year 6 weeks ago. You had no PED experience. To then claim something is fake based on your experience. My understanding - HGH initially will have a more pronounced effect of tiredness and hunger but those side effects subside, maybe something you are experiencing.

About Me:
Current: As of Today
  • Age: 38 years old
  • Height: 173 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Training: 5 months of gym training without any cycle (one year ago). Never trained before or after.
  • Cycle: 6-month Retatrutide cycle - Injecting 10 mg per week (5 mg on Tuesdays and 5 mg on Fridays).
  • Steroid Cycle: None so far. In fact, nothing other than Reta. I tried 10 mg of semaglutide for a couple of weeks, but it did not work for me at all.
 
Trenhead3cc said:
I looked at your log , nothing trying to shit on your physique or journey as we all start somewhere but as below of Mid January this year 6 weeks ago. You had no PED experience. To then claim something is fake based on your experience. My understanding - HGH initially will have a more pronounced effect of tiredness and hunger but those side effects subside, maybe something you are experiencing.

About Me:
Current: As of Today
  • Age: 38 years old
  • Height: 173 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Training: 5 months of gym training without any cycle (one year ago). Never trained before or after.
  • Cycle: 6-month Retatrutide cycle - Injecting 10 mg per week (5 mg on Tuesdays and 5 mg on Fridays).
  • Steroid Cycle: None so far. In fact, nothing other than Reta. I tried 10 mg of semaglutide for a couple of weeks, but it did not work for me at all.
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so what is wrong with my blog again? does posting my details here discards my claims about this hgh??? did you even bother to watch the video I shared? go and watch the video and then tell me the vails are completely right and you have always been receiving these kinds of air filled vails. Go ahead! or you just want to support the vendor blindly just because he has reached to the verified list?????????????
Your post does not make any sense at all. just biased comment.
 
LeakingCoffee said:
so what is wrong with my blog again? does posting my details here discards my claims about this hgh??? did you even bother to watch the video I shared? go and watch the video and then tell me the vails are completely right and you have always been receiving these kinds of air filled vails. Go ahead! or you just want to support the vendor blindly just because he has reached to the verified list?????????????
Your post does not make any sense at all. just biased comment.
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Don’t think he’s necessarily saying you’re wrong. Think @Trenhead3cc is alluding to the fact that this could have been handled better. Experience can’t be factored in, same with myself I don’t have a wealth of knowledge and wouldn’t judge off experience. bloods are the only answer rather than making an extremely flammable post that will show up on the main Aussie page bagging a vendor. Let the bloods do the talking. Understandable when you’re spewing and unsure if you wasted money but there’s a way to go about it man. In terms of the vials and presentation that’s a matter for you to discuss with @BigBoyLabs. I’ve been running his gh for a few months now and have never had something of the like. But again could have been sorted privately rather than trying to make a vendor look bad
 
BigCheese2000 said:
Don’t think he’s necessarily saying you’re wrong. Think @Trenhead3cc is alluding to the fact that this could have been handled better. Experience can’t be factored in, same with myself I don’t have a wealth of knowledge and wouldn’t judge off experience. bloods are the only answer rather than making an extremely flammable post that will show up on the main Aussie page bagging a vendor. Let the bloods do the talking. Understandable when you’re spewing and unsure if you wasted money but there’s a way to go about it man. In terms of the vials and presentation that’s a matter for you to discuss with @BigBoyLabs. I’ve been running his gh for a few months now and have never had something of the like. But again could have been sorted privately rather than trying to make a vendor look bad
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this is the problem, when people just read a couple of posts and ignore the whole thread and come up with opinions. I would suggest you to kindly go through the whole thread and see the answers what you are asking/saying. The answers are already there that why all this has happened and please also watch the video.
 
LeakingCoffee said:
so what is wrong with my blog again? does posting my details here discards my claims about this hgh??? did you even bother to watch the video I shared? go and watch the video and then tell me the vails are completely right and you have always been receiving these kinds of air filled vails. Go ahead! or you just want to support the vendor blindly just because he has reached to the verified list?????????????
Your post does not make any sense at all. just biased comment.
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My comment about you “knowing what you’re talking about” with little to no experience. Claiming it’s fake.

you also didn’t give much time to get a response from the vendor before posting. Said you wouldn’t get blood work and you have also uploaded a video to YouTube.

I can see from the vial the stopper coming out. Generally when an issue has ever happened with any vendor , it’s handled correctly with the vendor not public slander until necessary. Most things can be resolved as shit happens. Never seen someone upload a video to YouTube lol.

I haven’t used his HGH people I know and respect have and claim it’s good.
 
Trenhead3cc said:
My comment about you “knowing what you’re talking about” with little to no experience. Claiming it’s fake.

you also didn’t give much time to get a response from the vendor before posting. Said you wouldn’t get blood work and you have also uploaded a video to YouTube.

I can see from the vial the stopper coming out. Generally when an issue has ever happened with any vendor , it’s handled correctly with the vendor not public slander until necessary. Most things can be resolved as shit happens. Never seen someone upload a video to YouTube lol.

I haven’t used his HGH people I know and respect have and claim it’s good.
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I would again request you to check all the posts before saying anything. For the last 12 days the vendor did not even bother to say "Ok" or anything at all to my previous messages. Vendor already confirmed that in above posts, just take a bit of time and see for yourself before making comments that it could have been taken with vendors - when vendor has a reputation of not answering at all. Moreover if you have never used their hgh then you have ZERO experience with it too. So before reminding someone else that they lack experience, look at yourself, confessing you have even not sued their hgh but still want to just support. great! you comments are clear to me and everyone.

and as per the video on youtube, I tried to attach it here, but it could not be uploaded here, the forum says to link it from different platform where youtube is one of them. It seems like you have No experience with uploading a video here before.
 
LeakingCoffee said:
this is the problem, when people just read a couple of posts and ignore the whole thread and come up with opinions. I would suggest you to kindly go through the whole thread and see the answers what you are asking/saying. The answers are already there that why all this has happened and please also watch the video.
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I have read through all your responses in detail, and have addressed every point you’ve made? Unsure on what your point is here. My original point was to try and have contact. Agree sometimes messages can go unnoticed which is annoying but I don’t immediately come on and bash vendors. That vendor has now got a post calling them a scammer on the Aussie section, bad publicity. At least try reconcile internally. If a vendor still fobs you off then fair enough bringing it public
 
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BigCheese2000 said:
Exactly right @Trenhead3cc . Give respect and handle situations maturely you’ll get the same in return here. If bloods come back dodgy then we have a conversation but until then it’s all hearsay and to be frank slanderous.
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100 percent.
Need proof and evidence for a conviction in court.
There’s others here on his HGH that will have blood tests due in coming weeks aswell which will shut it down
 
LeakingCoffee said:
ok, I will do the blood test and will post the results here. But I have to keep injecting the same 5iu for three weeks and then do the test, just to be fair with my accusations. Currently my hgh levels in blood are already good because of the previous vendor hgh that was working very very well.
I will come and post the blood tests right here
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No need to wait 3 weeks just inject 10iu wait and hour or 2 and get bloods done will show
 
Flak said:
Only response has been him laughing at this post.

Well that answers that ..
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Yeeeep says it all really.

If you were that concerned you’d go and do the test and roast the vendor openly and everyone would have your back but instead he’s done no test and tried to roast him and everyone now knows he's full of shit and subsequently he’s gone MIA because the donkey who told him to post the BS claim got banned
 
Mme said:
@CypherOCE wheres your blood test?

Where's your apology?

Where's your ban?
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would be good to see all of these from the original poster otherwise its all just baseless slander
 
R&Dpharma said:
would be good to see all of these from the original poster otherwise its all just baseless slander
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💯 man, these guys that slander any vendor should be suspended and have all thier details so they can't make fake profiles again to just do it again in another week or so,

Shits me, as it woukd every vendor
 
Falling asleep and can’t stay awake… never felt this using 5iu lol. Iv used big boys hgh and seemed fine to me. Tingling and numbing hands
 
Hey everyone,

Thank you for your patience—I’ve finally received my test results, and I’m sharing them here. I’ll leave them open for interpretation, so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Before diving in, I want to address a few things:

Regarding @BigBoyLabs​


I have nothing personal against @BigBoyLabs and never intended to harm his reputation. In fact, I’ve always found him to be a good person. He was very efficient in shipping my order, and I received it quickly. Even after this thread, he remained polite and even offered me the option to return the remaining vials for a refund. When I reached out again after posting this thread, he continued to be courteous and reassured me with "No hard feelings."

I want to be clear: @BigBoyLabs is NOT a scammer but a reliable supplier. He definitely has my respect and seems like a gentleman. However, as with any product, there can be inconsistencies because suppliers source their products from third parties rather than producing them themselves. If this thread has caused any harm to @BigBoyLabs or his reputation, I sincerely apologize.

How I Conducted the Blood Tests​


I followed the guidance of an experienced user (who prefers to remain anonymous) on how to properly perform the test:

  1. Baseline Phase – For three weeks, I injected 5 IU of HGH every night from a vendor other than BBL. The effects were very strongly noticeable - could feel it as hell.
  2. Testing BBL HGH – Immediately after, without any gap, I switched to 5 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs for the next two weeks. (Originally, I planned for three weeks as advised, but due to bullying from some users in this forum, I shortened it to two weeks.) Unfortunately, I didn’t feel any effects from this HGH. However, I was advised not to rely on subjective feelings but to wait for blood work.
  3. Blood Test – After two weeks on BBL HGH, I got tested via iMedical. HGH results took four days, and I received them yesterday. I initially wanted to consult @BigBoyLabs before posting, and even sent the report to him on Threema yesterday but since he did not respond as usual 🤭 so I am sharing the results.

Results & Possible Interpretations​

I’m not imposing any conclusions—this is entirely open to interpretation.
  1. If the results indicate that the HGH is genuine and high quality → My sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  2. If the results suggest the HGH is weaker or underdosed → Still, my sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  3. If the results indicate the HGH is completely ineffective → Again, my sincere apologies. This could mean I received a faulty batch, and BBL may not even be aware of it.

Possible Conclusions That Can be Drawn: (Feel Free to draw Any Conclusion)​

Subject: 38 Years Old Male
  1. IGF-1 levels are above the normal range → BBL HGH is of excellent quality. My initial impressions were wrong, and subjective feelings are unreliable.
  2. IGF-1 levels are only slightly elevated → This may indicate the HGH is weaker or underdosed.
  3. IGF-1 levels were much higher two weeks ago due to my previous HGH use and have since declined while on BBL HGH → This could suggest the new HGH was less effective.
  4. BBL HGH is of excellent quality, and IGF-1 levels remained elevated as expected → Great product.
  5. IGF-1 levels are elevated but lower than expected → The HGH is working, but my body may not have responded well (individual responses vary).
  6. The HGH is good, but the vials are of poor quality (as shown in the video), which could have affected the drug's potency due to air exposure.

Final Thoughts​

This concludes the discussion—everyone is free to interpret the results as they see fit.
  • To those who encouraged me to get blood work done: Thank you. It was the right approach, even though it cost me some money.
  • To those who just wanted to bully me: Here’s my middle finger. You don’t actually care about the truth—you just enjoy harassing people, and I don’t give a damn. Keep bullying - I don't give a fuck 😂
@Admin (Eddie Haskell), if you believe this thread could unfairly damage @BigBoyLabs’ reputation, feel free to remove it. He’s a good person, and occasional product issues are part of the business.

IGF-1.webp


HGH.webp
 
LeakingCoffee said:
Hey everyone,

Thank you for your patience—I’ve finally received my test results, and I’m sharing them here. I’ll leave them open for interpretation, so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Before diving in, I want to address a few things:

Regarding @BigBoyLabs​


I have nothing personal against @BigBoyLabs and never intended to harm his reputation. In fact, I’ve always found him to be a good person. He was very efficient in shipping my order, and I received it quickly. Even after this thread, he remained polite and even offered me the option to return the remaining vials for a refund. When I reached out again after posting this thread, he continued to be courteous and reassured me with "No hard feelings."

I want to be clear: @BigBoyLabs is NOT a scammer but a reliable supplier. He definitely has my respect and seems like a gentleman. However, as with any product, there can be inconsistencies because suppliers source their products from third parties rather than producing them themselves. If this thread has caused any harm to @BigBoyLabs or his reputation, I sincerely apologize.

How I Conducted the Blood Tests​


I followed the guidance of an experienced user (who prefers to remain anonymous) on how to properly perform the test:

  1. Baseline Phase – For three weeks, I injected 5 IU of HGH every night from a vendor other than BBL. The effects were very strongly noticeable - could feel it as hell.
  2. Testing BBL HGH – Immediately after, without any gap, I switched to 5 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs for the next two weeks. (Originally, I planned for three weeks as advised, but due to bullying from some users in this forum, I shortened it to two weeks.) Unfortunately, I didn’t feel any effects from this HGH. However, I was advised not to rely on subjective feelings but to wait for blood work.
  3. Blood Test – After two weeks on BBL HGH, I got tested via iMedical. HGH results took four days, and I received them yesterday. I initially wanted to consult @BigBoyLabs before posting, and even sent the report to him on Threema yesterday but since he did not respond as usual 🤭 so I am sharing the results.

Results & Possible Interpretations​

I’m not imposing any conclusions—this is entirely open to interpretation.
  1. If the results indicate that the HGH is genuine and high quality → My sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  2. If the results suggest the HGH is weaker or underdosed → Still, my sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  3. If the results indicate the HGH is completely ineffective → Again, my sincere apologies. This could mean I received a faulty batch, and BBL may not even be aware of it.

Possible Conclusions That Can be Drawn: (Feel Free to draw Any Conclusion)​

Subject: 38 Years Old Male
  1. IGF-1 levels are above the normal range → BBL HGH is of excellent quality. My initial impressions were wrong, and subjective feelings are unreliable.
  2. IGF-1 levels are only slightly elevated → This may indicate the HGH is weaker or underdosed.
  3. IGF-1 levels were much higher two weeks ago due to my previous HGH use and have since declined while on BBL HGH → This could suggest the new HGH was less effective.
  4. BBL HGH is of excellent quality, and IGF-1 levels remained elevated as expected → Great product.
  5. IGF-1 levels are elevated but lower than expected → The HGH is working, but my body may not have responded well (individual responses vary).
  6. The HGH is good, but the vials are of poor quality (as shown in the video), which could have affected the drug's potency due to air exposure.

Final Thoughts​

This concludes the discussion—everyone is free to interpret the results as they see fit.
  • To those who encouraged me to get blood work done: Thank you. It was the right approach, even though it cost me some money.
  • To those who just wanted to bully me: Here’s my middle finger. You don’t actually care about the truth—you just enjoy harassing people, and I don’t give a damn. Keep bullying - I don't give a fuck 😂
@Admin (Eddie Haskell), if you believe this thread could unfairly damage @BigBoyLabs’ reputation, feel free to remove it. He’s a good person, and occasional product issues are part of the business.

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When was the last injection before the test and what dose?
 
LeakingCoffee said:
Hey everyone,

Thank you for your patience—I’ve finally received my test results, and I’m sharing them here. I’ll leave them open for interpretation, so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Before diving in, I want to address a few things:

Regarding @BigBoyLabs​


I have nothing personal against @BigBoyLabs and never intended to harm his reputation. In fact, I’ve always found him to be a good person. He was very efficient in shipping my order, and I received it quickly. Even after this thread, he remained polite and even offered me the option to return the remaining vials for a refund. When I reached out again after posting this thread, he continued to be courteous and reassured me with "No hard feelings."

I want to be clear: @BigBoyLabs is NOT a scammer but a reliable supplier. He definitely has my respect and seems like a gentleman. However, as with any product, there can be inconsistencies because suppliers source their products from third parties rather than producing them themselves. If this thread has caused any harm to @BigBoyLabs or his reputation, I sincerely apologize.

How I Conducted the Blood Tests​


I followed the guidance of an experienced user (who prefers to remain anonymous) on how to properly perform the test:

  1. Baseline Phase – For three weeks, I injected 5 IU of HGH every night from a vendor other than BBL. The effects were very strongly noticeable - could feel it as hell.
  2. Testing BBL HGH – Immediately after, without any gap, I switched to 5 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs for the next two weeks. (Originally, I planned for three weeks as advised, but due to bullying from some users in this forum, I shortened it to two weeks.) Unfortunately, I didn’t feel any effects from this HGH. However, I was advised not to rely on subjective feelings but to wait for blood work.
  3. Blood Test – After two weeks on BBL HGH, I got tested via iMedical. HGH results took four days, and I received them yesterday. I initially wanted to consult @BigBoyLabs before posting, and even sent the report to him on Threema yesterday but since he did not respond as usual 🤭 so I am sharing the results.

Results & Possible Interpretations​

I’m not imposing any conclusions—this is entirely open to interpretation.
  1. If the results indicate that the HGH is genuine and high quality → My sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  2. If the results suggest the HGH is weaker or underdosed → Still, my sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  3. If the results indicate the HGH is completely ineffective → Again, my sincere apologies. This could mean I received a faulty batch, and BBL may not even be aware of it.

Possible Conclusions That Can be Drawn: (Feel Free to draw Any Conclusion)​

Subject: 38 Years Old Male
  1. IGF-1 levels are above the normal range → BBL HGH is of excellent quality. My initial impressions were wrong, and subjective feelings are unreliable.
  2. IGF-1 levels are only slightly elevated → This may indicate the HGH is weaker or underdosed.
  3. IGF-1 levels were much higher two weeks ago due to my previous HGH use and have since declined while on BBL HGH → This could suggest the new HGH was less effective.
  4. BBL HGH is of excellent quality, and IGF-1 levels remained elevated as expected → Great product.
  5. IGF-1 levels are elevated but lower than expected → The HGH is working, but my body may not have responded well (individual responses vary).
  6. The HGH is good, but the vials are of poor quality (as shown in the video), which could have affected the drug's potency due to air exposure.

Final Thoughts​

This concludes the discussion—everyone is free to interpret the results as they see fit.
  • To those who encouraged me to get blood work done: Thank you. It was the right approach, even though it cost me some money.
  • To those who just wanted to bully me: Here’s my middle finger. You don’t actually care about the truth—you just enjoy harassing people, and I don’t give a damn. Keep bullying - I don't give a fuck 😂
@Admin (Eddie Haskell), if you believe this thread could unfairly damage @BigBoyLabs’ reputation, feel free to remove it. He’s a good person, and occasional product issues are part of the business.

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Igf values r too low for 5 iu gh!! Looks like somewhere around 2iu. @AE1079 can chime more.
 
That was alot to read. Probably too much to be fair. Sometimes easier to get straight to the point.

Nothing wrong with putting things out in the open for transparency. If this infact a genuine issues I'm sure @BigBoyLabs will rectify it.

I have literally just had my mate over for dinner for his birthday who is using BBL HGH and all he kept talking about was carpal tunnel pains.

But if there is inconsistencies within the quality of the product then this needs to be addressed
 
LeakingCoffee said:
Hey everyone,

Thank you for your patience—I’ve finally received my test results, and I’m sharing them here. I’ll leave them open for interpretation, so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Before diving in, I want to address a few things:

Regarding @BigBoyLabs​


I have nothing personal against @BigBoyLabs and never intended to harm his reputation. In fact, I’ve always found him to be a good person. He was very efficient in shipping my order, and I received it quickly. Even after this thread, he remained polite and even offered me the option to return the remaining vials for a refund. When I reached out again after posting this thread, he continued to be courteous and reassured me with "No hard feelings."

I want to be clear: @BigBoyLabs is NOT a scammer but a reliable supplier. He definitely has my respect and seems like a gentleman. However, as with any product, there can be inconsistencies because suppliers source their products from third parties rather than producing them themselves. If this thread has caused any harm to @BigBoyLabs or his reputation, I sincerely apologize.

How I Conducted the Blood Tests​


I followed the guidance of an experienced user (who prefers to remain anonymous) on how to properly perform the test:

  1. Baseline Phase – For three weeks, I injected 5 IU of HGH every night from a vendor other than BBL. The effects were very strongly noticeable - could feel it as hell.
  2. Testing BBL HGH – Immediately after, without any gap, I switched to 5 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs for the next two weeks. (Originally, I planned for three weeks as advised, but due to bullying from some users in this forum, I shortened it to two weeks.) Unfortunately, I didn’t feel any effects from this HGH. However, I was advised not to rely on subjective feelings but to wait for blood work.
  3. Blood Test – After two weeks on BBL HGH, I got tested via iMedical. HGH results took four days, and I received them yesterday. I initially wanted to consult @BigBoyLabs before posting, and even sent the report to him on Threema yesterday but since he did not respond as usual 🤭 so I am sharing the results.

Results & Possible Interpretations​

I’m not imposing any conclusions—this is entirely open to interpretation.
  1. If the results indicate that the HGH is genuine and high quality → My sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  2. If the results suggest the HGH is weaker or underdosed → Still, my sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  3. If the results indicate the HGH is completely ineffective → Again, my sincere apologies. This could mean I received a faulty batch, and BBL may not even be aware of it.

Possible Conclusions That Can be Drawn: (Feel Free to draw Any Conclusion)​

Subject: 38 Years Old Male
  1. IGF-1 levels are above the normal range → BBL HGH is of excellent quality. My initial impressions were wrong, and subjective feelings are unreliable.
  2. IGF-1 levels are only slightly elevated → This may indicate the HGH is weaker or underdosed.
  3. IGF-1 levels were much higher two weeks ago due to my previous HGH use and have since declined while on BBL HGH → This could suggest the new HGH was less effective.
  4. BBL HGH is of excellent quality, and IGF-1 levels remained elevated as expected → Great product.
  5. IGF-1 levels are elevated but lower than expected → The HGH is working, but my body may not have responded well (individual responses vary).
  6. The HGH is good, but the vials are of poor quality (as shown in the video), which could have affected the drug's potency due to air exposure.

Final Thoughts​

This concludes the discussion—everyone is free to interpret the results as they see fit.
  • To those who encouraged me to get blood work done: Thank you. It was the right approach, even though it cost me some money.
  • To those who just wanted to bully me: Here’s my middle finger. You don’t actually care about the truth—you just enjoy harassing people, and I don’t give a damn. Keep bullying - I don't give a fuck 😂
@Admin (Eddie Haskell), if you believe this thread could unfairly damage @BigBoyLabs’ reputation, feel free to remove it. He’s a good person, and occasional product issues are part of the business.

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Did you do the 10iu 3 hrs pre blood test like multiple people suggested? If so that GH serum shows there is no active product. But after reading through all your replies I'm guessing you didn't do this simple protocol to help prove legitimacy
 
if what you said is accurate,
LeakingCoffee said:
Hey everyone,

Thank you for your patience—I’ve finally received my test results, and I’m sharing them here. I’ll leave them open for interpretation, so feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Before diving in, I want to address a few things:

Regarding @BigBoyLabs​


I have nothing personal against @BigBoyLabs and never intended to harm his reputation. In fact, I’ve always found him to be a good person. He was very efficient in shipping my order, and I received it quickly. Even after this thread, he remained polite and even offered me the option to return the remaining vials for a refund. When I reached out again after posting this thread, he continued to be courteous and reassured me with "No hard feelings."

I want to be clear: @BigBoyLabs is NOT a scammer but a reliable supplier. He definitely has my respect and seems like a gentleman. However, as with any product, there can be inconsistencies because suppliers source their products from third parties rather than producing them themselves. If this thread has caused any harm to @BigBoyLabs or his reputation, I sincerely apologize.

How I Conducted the Blood Tests​


I followed the guidance of an experienced user (who prefers to remain anonymous) on how to properly perform the test:

  1. Baseline Phase – For three weeks, I injected 5 IU of HGH every night from a vendor other than BBL. The effects were very strongly noticeable - could feel it as hell.
  2. Testing BBL HGH – Immediately after, without any gap, I switched to 5 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs for the next two weeks. (Originally, I planned for three weeks as advised, but due to bullying from some users in this forum, I shortened it to two weeks.) Unfortunately, I didn’t feel any effects from this HGH. However, I was advised not to rely on subjective feelings but to wait for blood work.
  3. Blood Test – After two weeks on BBL HGH, I got tested via iMedical. HGH results took four days, and I received them yesterday. I initially wanted to consult @BigBoyLabs before posting, and even sent the report to him on Threema yesterday but since he did not respond as usual 🤭 so I am sharing the results.

Results & Possible Interpretations​

I’m not imposing any conclusions—this is entirely open to interpretation.
  1. If the results indicate that the HGH is genuine and high quality → My sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  2. If the results suggest the HGH is weaker or underdosed → Still, my sincere apologies to @BigBoyLabs.
  3. If the results indicate the HGH is completely ineffective → Again, my sincere apologies. This could mean I received a faulty batch, and BBL may not even be aware of it.

Possible Conclusions That Can be Drawn: (Feel Free to draw Any Conclusion)​

Subject: 38 Years Old Male
  1. IGF-1 levels are above the normal range → BBL HGH is of excellent quality. My initial impressions were wrong, and subjective feelings are unreliable.
  2. IGF-1 levels are only slightly elevated → This may indicate the HGH is weaker or underdosed.
  3. IGF-1 levels were much higher two weeks ago due to my previous HGH use and have since declined while on BBL HGH → This could suggest the new HGH was less effective.
  4. BBL HGH is of excellent quality, and IGF-1 levels remained elevated as expected → Great product.
  5. IGF-1 levels are elevated but lower than expected → The HGH is working, but my body may not have responded well (individual responses vary).
  6. The HGH is good, but the vials are of poor quality (as shown in the video), which could have affected the drug's potency due to air exposure.

Final Thoughts​

This concludes the discussion—everyone is free to interpret the results as they see fit.
  • To those who encouraged me to get blood work done: Thank you. It was the right approach, even though it cost me some money.
  • To those who just wanted to bully me: Here’s my middle finger. You don’t actually care about the truth—you just enjoy harassing people, and I don’t give a damn. Keep bullying - I don't give a fuck 😂
@Admin (Eddie Haskell), if you believe this thread could unfairly damage @BigBoyLabs’ reputation, feel free to remove it. He’s a good person, and occasional product issues are part of the business.

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hey mate,

long read, doesnt look like test was done right, as your blood is showing hgh serum of no hgh in blood, shoot 10iu IM then test 2-3 hours after for accurate reading shoot it deep to ensure in the muscle, your IGF1 is slightly elevated but that can be both genetic and from AAS alone, have seen it on myself numerous times,

for a real accurate reading, do it all cold turkey with no gh etc, then retest again with proper parameters followed as mentioned above, that is the only way to accuratly know.

all the best!
 
Oracle911 said:
if what you said is accurate,

hey mate,

long read, doesnt look like test was done right, as your blood is showing hgh serum of no hgh in blood, shoot 10iu IM then test 2-3 hours after for accurate reading shoot it deep to ensure in the muscle, your IGF1 is slightly elevated but that can be both genetic and from AAS alone, have seen it on myself numerous times,

for a real accurate reading, do it all cold turkey with no gh etc, then retest again with proper parameters followed as mentioned above, that is the only way to accuratly know.

all the best!
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Agree regarding the test been done incorrectly I just did a hgh test pinned close to 10iu 1.5hrs pre fasted bloods results came out good different supplier but this is the way I was told is best to do the test
 
Grumpy said:
Agree regarding the test been done incorrectly I just did a hgh test pinned close to 10iu 1.5hrs pre fasted bloods results came out good different supplier but this is the way I was told is best to do the test
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correct, and honestly ive always thought testing IGF1 is a waste of time as everyone can react differently, as i mentioned prior, some people can genetically have raised or not, as well as this some people can have altered numbers even on GH,

most accurate and safest way is the 10iu IM then bloods 2-3 hours post, as if your hgh serum is elevated then it is gh, simple, if it is as your bloods show, it is fake or a peptide (most likely)
 
Oracle911 said:
correct, and honestly ive always thought testing IGF1 is a waste of time as everyone can react differently, as i mentioned prior, some people can genetically have raised or not, as well as this some people can have altered numbers even on GH,

most accurate and safest way is the 10iu IM then bloods 2-3 hours post, as if your hgh serum is elevated then it is gh, simple, if it is as your bloods show, it is fake or a peptide (most likely)
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Hgh has such a short half life pining the night before isn't really going to show much
 
Grumpy said:
Hgh has such a short half life pining the night before isn't really going to show much
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Yeah igf1 is elevated for 36 hours post injection anyway. So the whole shooting gh an hour before cardio makes me laugh. Better off shoot it pre bed and then by morning your fasted cardio will still be utilised by the increase in igf1. Takes I think like 6 hours to Peak when shot subq.

Anyway hope he retests properly would be interesting to see :)
 
Oracle911 said:
Yeah igf1 is elevated for 36 hours post injection anyway. So the whole shooting gh an hour before cardio makes me laugh. Better off shoot it pre bed and then by morning your fasted cardio will still be utilised by the increase in igf1. Takes I think like 6 hours to Peak when shot subq.

Anyway hope he retests properly would be interesting to see :)
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Definitely we would all like to see the results
 
Put of curiosity, what was the lab brand of GH "felt it" better? Be interesting to see if they get it off the same supplier anyway
 
FZ1 said:
How’d you guys even manage to get your gh off @BigBoyLabs as he’s been dodging me for two weeks refusing to send the 21 kits I’ve paid for?
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21 kits? My butthole would be puckering a bit
 
FZ1 said:
How’d you guys even manage to get your gh off @BigBoyLabs as he’s been dodging me for two weeks refusing to send the 21 kits I’ve paid for?
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Please tell me your first order was not 21 kits
Really sould be doing smaller orders just in case 4 orders of 5 kits at least that way if something goes wrong your not out a huge purchase
 
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I'm guessing you didn't inject 2-3 hours before going and getting your blood test, but IGF-1 numbers look like 2IU of GH (from my personal experience on GH).

The GH is either well under dosed, or isn't GH at all (an injection 2-3 hours before should raise GH levels significantly), or has been well and truly compromised to a point that it's lost its potency.
 
hypogaeum said:
I'm guessing you didn't inject 2-3 hours before going and getting your blood test, but IGF-1 numbers look like 2IU of GH (from my personal experience on GH).

The GH is either well under dosed, or isn't GH at all (an injection 2-3 hours before should raise GH levels significantly), or has been well and truly compromised to a point that it's lost its potency.
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From reading his comments he injected the previous night or 5 nights in a row
 
Grumpy said:
Yep correct
In my opinion not the correct way to check hgh or igf 1
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I’d pin before the test to verify elevated GH (as GH isn’t the only thing that can raise IGF-1), but what would you do differently?
 
hypogaeum said:
I’d pin before the test to verify elevated GH (as GH isn’t the only thing that can raise IGF-1), but what would you do differently?
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Exactly that pin a few hours prior the bloods hgh has a short half life so injecting the night before isn't going to show much
 
Grumpy said:
Exactly that pin a few hours prior the bloods hgh has a short half life so injecting the night before isn't going to show much
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👌

Odd that 5IU for several weeks didn’t have the IGF-1 higher, though?
 
hypogaeum said:
👌

Odd that 5IU for several weeks didn’t have the IGF-1 higher, though?
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A little but everyone is different and reacts differently could be many other factors why at that point the igf was not increased

Not saying the gh he is referring to is good as I've never tried it just that the test done properly would have given everyone a better idea
 
It's been about 20years since I got off the forums prob around when Genxxl retired, so I done my time on forums learning etc but family took that time away from me. I only really float around these days to keep in the loop to see how vendors are etc. I can tell you I had the same issue with the GH lids they weren't crimped properly. As for the feedback sorry dude but I got up to 10iu a day and disturbed my GH cycle as I feel I lost a month cause the quality wasn't there 5iu is my happy spot and had been running it for a while. Can also say missing a order.
 
I just got my bloodwork results back after using bbl gh since late feb.
gh- 1.1ug/L
Igf1 - 12.1nmol/L
I injected 10iu’s intramuscular 2 hrs prior to bloods and 2iu’s every night for 3 weeks prior to the blood test. What numbers should I be expecting following this protocol?
 
Apogee said:
I just got my bloodwork results back after using bbl gh since late feb.
gh- 1.1ug/L
Igf1 - 12.1nmol/L
I injected 10iu’s intramuscular 2 hrs prior to bloods and 2iu’s every night for 3 weeks prior to the blood test. What numbers should I be expecting following this protocol?
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GH should be more like 20-50ug/L if you've done 10IU two hours before the blood test.
IGF-1might take longer to improve, but I'd have expected my own to be 20-30nmol/L on the same dose.

I'd guess it isn't GH or it's massively under-dosed (provided you reconstituted and stored correctly).
 
Apogee said:
I just got my bloodwork results back after using bbl gh since late feb.
gh- 1.1ug/L
Igf1 - 12.1nmol/L
I injected 10iu’s intramuscular 2 hrs prior to bloods and 2iu’s every night for 3 weeks prior to the blood test. What numbers should I be expecting following this protocol?
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Sadly that reading is showing the GH being bunk should be much higher
 
Apogee said:
I just got my bloodwork results back after using bbl gh since late feb.
gh- 1.1ug/L
Igf1 - 12.1nmol/L
I injected 10iu’s intramuscular 2 hrs prior to bloods and 2iu’s every night for 3 weeks prior to the blood test. What numbers should I be expecting following this protocol?
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Very sad that gh is completely bunk and you guys r completely ripped off. That’s y don’t go after cheap, read reviews on particular product if there is blood report to back up especially with expensive stuff like gh.
 
Bloke was the dodgiest mf on evo
 
Apogee said:
Thanks for the feedback everyone. For those that wanted to see the blood results they are here. Time to trial the another vendor.View attachment 83081View attachment 83083
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Cheers,
Out of curiosity is it the same vials as you see in the very first post ?

This could explain the current exit a lot if everyone got bunk HGH and he didn't want to replace it all
 
Freki said:
Cheers,
Out of curiosity is it the same vials as you see in the very first post ?

This could explain the current exit a lot if everyone got bunk HGH and he didn't want to replace it all
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Similar think. Caps were loose but not removable, and only one of them lost vacuum.
 
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