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Veteran Thread High quality eggs, chicken, beef. the difference is real. nutrition post of the month

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Nutrition is definitely #1.
It doesn't matter if you want a body build or whatever you want to do. It's got to be on point.
 
Excellent job on this post.

I think a lot of people don't realize the difference in the quality of food.
 
I do agree with @Mobster comment about skimping a few bucks but spending money on a cycle.
There are always ways to still get good quality produce and good prices.
Just a couple of my suggestions that I do even though I'm probably a lucky one and don't have financial issues (not being arrogant) but if it helps someone else:
1. You can normally buy whole certified free range chickens cheap and sometimes on special here. Get yourself a sharp filleting/boning knife (my mate even uses a fish filleting knife) watch a few videos about how to de bone a whole chicken and debone/section it out to save money. We cook whole boneless butterflied chickens in our house for meal prep. The money you save is just your time so no outlay - if you have a small cry vac machine you can do a few in an hour then cry vacuum them and put in freezer. The upside of this is you can fit more whole chickens in your freezer when they are deboned.. use the bones to make a bone broth! Very good for you.
2. Do the same with grass fed beef and get some mates on board to buy a half a cow straight from the butcher or farm. Cry vac it up to stop freezer burn and it will last otherwise just buy bulk slabs of your desired cut (rump,sirloin etc) and cut/cry vac to desired sizes - buying bulk is usually cheaper and sometimes I'm buying bulk half price per KG when on sale.

Sorry about the long winded reply but hopefully helps someone
 
I've seen that argued and would dispute it.

One recent video I saw (yesterday) argued that buying the ingredients for a sandwich was $26 vs just buying a sandwich. But neglected to mention that the 'left over' would be enough to make multiple sandwiches. There are US homes where NO actual food gets cooked from scratch. Like show kitchens.

The US side also forget that they have, in spite of how much they bitch about it, the cheapest 'gas' and food vs wages/income of most developed countries.

It is no effort at all to buy in bulk. It's a LITTLE bit of work to build a relationship with a local small business food provider. We used to have a local fella that dropped off 6-7 2 dozen grass and free range eggs to my local gym for forward selling to the members. Lidls and Aldis do 5kg/11lb trays of chicken breasts. I just restarted having meat delivered.

By way of example in my latest delivery it included 3 x 18oz mixed grills for £13.99 or about $18. It also included 2 x 12oz (yes 12) RibEye steaks for £13 which is cheaper than 2 x 8oz from a supermarket.

Finally how come, as discussed on the podcasts, we're all happy to have gym memberships and also spend (typically) $1000 on a cycle and then don't want to pony up a few extra bucks for better food. Plus you should be eating less additional garbage so have more to pony up anyway.
No doubt about this @Mobster about the overall issues but I can tell you food price is a big problem for many bro for SURE
@Noah Wixx @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @AE1079 @Pigsy
 
Food cost is a big factor its why i went for 85/15 and 80/20 beef and turkey since it is sold in 3lb packs which are the same price as 1-2lb packs of 90/10 beef or turkey, so with me massively meal prepping it is cheaper to go with something a little more fat heavy in content.
 
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No doubt about this @Mobster about the overall issues but I can tell you food price is a big problem for many bro for SURE
@Noah Wixx @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @AE1079 @Pigsy
It's a bug bear of mine so more bitching by me lol

In both the US and UK I see people moaning about prices. The trouble is prices NEVER stay the same. Or else I'd be paying what I paid when I first started work in 1980.

People say this and that and then carry on doing the same shit. Go to the same shops, buy the same amounts and bitch. Then go and pay stupid money on a car they will never own and buy an even bigger big screen TV or upgrade to the latest iPhone
 
Food cost is a big factor its why i went for 85/15 and 80/20 beef and turkey since it is sold in 3lb packs which are the same price as 1-2lb packs of 90/10 beef or turkey, so with me massively meal prepping it is cheaper to go with something a little more fat heavy in content.
And cook the fat off. I'm not fussed on the too lean stuff
 
Ran out of edit time earlier so...

No doubt about this @Mobster about the overall issues but I can tell you food price is a big problem for many bro for SURE
@Noah Wixx @Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @AE1079 @Pigsy
It's a bug bear of mine so more bitching by me lol

In both the US and UK I see people moaning about prices. The trouble is prices NEVER stay the same. Or else I'd be paying what I paid when I first started work in 1980.

People say this and that and then carry on doing the same shit. Go to the same shops, buy the same amounts and bitch. Then go and pay stupid money on a car they will never own and buy an even bigger big screen TV or upgrade to the latest iPhone and then moan some more about how expensive shit it. C'mon. The worst are ones moaning about costs and still using the internet, having Sky TV and so on. Knock that shit off and save $100 a month. In the US you'll buy a house which comes, all too often, with HOA annual fees too. That shit is crazy to me. I own (outright - no mortgage) my house (huge former social club) and I'm beholden to no one. I don't drive but have owned a car (GF drove it). 2nd hand and paid cash. Moaned about the bills though lol. Same set of off road tyres on it as when I bought it (GF owns it now).

On saving:
1. I have two small chest freezers. One upstairs in the kitchen and one near my office. It means I can buy in bulk and have room for the food.
2. I buy meat (just started doing this again) direct from a local award winning (was Welsh butcher of the year) as well as deals in Lidls. Xmas I spent a small fortune on amazing roasts. I even bought a reduced shin beef thing (feeds 4-6) and straight in the freezer. During covid I had gym buddies buy with me and most weekly orders were £100. The butcher would knock 10% off often or add something for free.
3. I'm probably gonna buy a 20kg/44lbs sack on unflavored whey soon. I'll be buying that direct from the importer. It'll be £220 It's the same company I used when I had a supplement company. If I buy small amounts the per kilo price is double. My business started as a buyers club.
4. Two smallish local farms do lamb (sheep) and you can buy 1/2 and whole lamb direct.
5. One of the strength athletes I know is a mobile slaughter-man (goes to farms to kill and butcher the meat). We ALL have buddies who are electricians and so on. Food too surely


On the quality thing
Start with bulk buying normal grade. Put the savings to one side. Buy top grade with that money. Freeze. Run the top grade when on cycle
 
In Oz even the free range can be hit and miss, as well the cheaper ones are plain shit. They stink.
If you have the room chickens are a great investment, costs me 12c an egg in pellets and they keep the garden fertilised and bug free, real easy to care for
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Coffee - stop spending small fortunes at Costa/Starbucks etc. I've seen $120 a month or more mentioned. I have a Nespresso machine (small pods). I could buy 1 per month plus pods and spend less per month than $120+

TRT - DIY and save $150 as month ore more

PEDs - those of you who have a few cycles under your belt know what works for you - buy when approved sources have sales (PSL, Naps and UGFreak all do monthly and even weekly) ahead of time. Ditto having a good idea of the next cycle

Toilet Roll - I once had an argument/debate with my late brother David on the economy toilet roll and 'posh' quilted costs. I mean you're wiping shit onto it and my ass ain't that sensitive
 
In Oz even the free range can be hit and miss, as well the cheaper ones are plain shit. They stink.
If you have the room chickens are a great investment, costs me 12c an egg in pellets and they keep the garden fertilised and bug free, real easy to care for View attachment 76277
My GF has 3 and always has spare eggs
 
And cook the fat off. I'm not fussed on the too lean stuff
That is one of the reasons i picked up an air fryer years ago, if i want to cook fat off i can, or if im trying to attain higher calories i can keep it in, having flexibility is nice depending on goals at the time.
 
Post up actual US prices for meat, eggs and gas and I'll look up UK prices for the same.
The average price of ground beef in the United States in 2020 was $4.12 per pound. In January 2025, the average price of ground beef was projected to be $5.735 per pound for all uncooked ground beef, $7.110 per pound for lean and extra lean ground beef, and $5.545 per pound for 100% ground beef.

2016: The average price of a dozen eggs was below $2
2022: Egg prices more than doubled
2023: Egg prices peaked at $4.82 per dozen in January
2024: Egg prices continued to increase
January 2025: The average price of a dozen eggs reached $4.95, a 45-year high

In 2020, the average price of regular gasoline was $2.168 per gallon.
2022
In January 2022, the average price of gasoline was $3.315 per gallon, and in April it was $4.213 per gallon.
2023
In January 2023, the average price of gasoline was $3.339 per gallon, and in September it was $3.836 per gallon.
2024
In January 2024, the average price of gasoline was $3.075 per gallon, and in April it was $3.733 per gallon.
2025
In January 2025, the average price of regular gasoline was $3.08 per gallon.
2025 price expectations
The national average for regular gas in 2025 was expected to stay below $3.50 per gallon each month.
 
I do 99% of my food shopping at whole foods/amazon.

there are sales on things constantly. plus you save money having a prime membership. example last week i bought 3 pounds of top round step 4 pastured for $7.20 a pound.. sale + prime membership. that is a bargain on high quality meat.

this week they have both the chicken and ground beef on sale. the poultry is step 2+ and the beef is step 4.

walmart or costco products are step 1 or below. yet the prices are just as expensive and in a lot of cases more expensive. its about being a smart shopper .. the issue too is many in america live in rural areas where they don't have access to high quality ironically unless you are lucky enough to have access to a co-op or find a local farm that practices high quality farming.
 
The average price of ground beef in the United States in 2020 was $4.12 per pound. In January 2025, the average price of ground beef was projected to be $5.735 per pound for all uncooked ground beef, $7.110 per pound for lean and extra lean ground beef, and $5.545 per pound for 100% ground beef.

2016: The average price of a dozen eggs was below $2
2022: Egg prices more than doubled
2023: Egg prices peaked at $4.82 per dozen in January
2024: Egg prices continued to increase
January 2025: The average price of a dozen eggs reached $4.95, a 45-year high

In 2020, the average price of regular gasoline was $2.168 per gallon.
2022
In January 2022, the average price of gasoline was $3.315 per gallon, and in April it was $4.213 per gallon.
2023
In January 2023, the average price of gasoline was $3.339 per gallon, and in September it was $3.836 per gallon.
2024
In January 2024, the average price of gasoline was $3.075 per gallon, and in April it was $3.733 per gallon.
2025
In January 2025, the average price of regular gasoline was $3.08 per gallon.
2025 price expectations
The national average for regular gas in 2025 was expected to stay below $3.50 per gallon each month.
Our eggs are more or less the same price (76p pr $1) at £2.76-3.15
Gas (petrol) is £5.19 so $7 a gallon.
Minced beef per lb is £7.50 or $10 (almost twice that for organic)


Way more here.
 
Our eggs are more or less the same price (76p pr $1) at £2.76-3.15
Gas (petrol) is £5.19 so $7 a gallon.
Minced beef per lb is £7.50 or $10 (almost twice that for organic)


Way more here.
I used to buy 90/10 beef buy it being 14 dollars for 2 lbs it just didnt make sense when i can get 3lbs of 80/20 for less money and more food to prep so less spent over time, at one point California was over 7 dollars a gallon, most other places highest i saw by me was 5 dollars at one point, alot factors in as well, how much some one makes every week or every 2 weeks + plus other expenses, i know it varies alot for each individual.

On average i spend around 240-300 dollars for meal prep for the gym, i know the market goes up and down lots of factors, 2018 i was paying around 180 dollars for gym meal prep, i typically try and stick with Aldi as they have the best prices, organic definitely always more expensive just not doable for myself paying 10 dollars for 1lb of ground beef.
 
I'm a big fan of both Aldi (No2) and Lidl's (No1). Aldi's, a few weeks back, had proper Waygu RibEye in. Now that WAS expensive. I prefer Lidl's just for their theme weeks

The mobile butcher I used started out selling meat to Rugby players and bodybuilders. We also have specific online home delivery meat companies and aimed at bodybuilders. The issue, as is often the case in the US, is delivery. The cost of shipping across country would be hard in the US
 
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