New Guy here..Hi

[BeMe]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to say hi and maybe get a little advice. I've been cruising the forum for a little while now and decided to join up because it seems like a really positive and helpful atmosphere. I've already learned a lot just reading here.

Quick intro on me, I'm a 40yr old guy, train everyday, run a contracting business and I'm on the tools so I basically beat myself into the ground everyday. I work, I train, and find a little time for my wife and hobbies in-between.

Been on "TRT" for almost a year, 5'11, 176lbs, 12% BF, 180mcg a week. I'm working with a good doctor, all biomarkers look good, cept my lipids and RBC are a little low. I run macrofactor, whoop, Garmin, eightsleep, basically track everything all day looking for ways to improve and eeek out more of myself. Kinda at the point where I'm thinking enough with the half measures, I just want to feel better and be able to keep manage my crazy work habits a bit easier.

So Primo, I'm in Canada and it sounds like NF is the way to go. I've read you can run low dose for as much as 6 months? My goal isn't to blow up, maybe add 10-15lbs lean over the next year. Mainly I'd just like to recover a bit better and have a bit more energy.

Sorry for the long winded post....open to any advice or listening to others experiences. Thanks!

 

[Freki]

I work, I train, and find a little time for my wife and hobbies in-between.

Reverse it, no one's on there death bed saying fuck I wish I worked more

 

[BeMe]

Reverse it, no one's on there death bed saying fuck I wish I worked more

True, but I'm working towards a goal. In the next 5-10 years I'll be financially set for the rest of my life. Then I'll work when I feel like it and do a lot of travelling. I partied pretty hard and travelled a lot from 14-30 years old. I'm more than ok with dedicating this part of my life to the grind. Hopefully my plans work out as expected and it wasn't all for not. Looking at my portfolio today....might need to work a few more years lol

 

[stevesmi]

Just blast for 12 weeks then go back to trt

 

[Freki]

Looking at my portfolio today

Ha ha not today , I just checked wow

 

[BeMe]

Just blast for 12 weeks then go back to trt

What would a blast be? I'm on 180mcg test c weekly right now.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to say hi and maybe get a little advice. I've been cruising the forum for a little while now and decided to join up because it seems like a really positive and helpful atmosphere. I've already learned a lot just reading here.

Quick intro on me, I'm a 40yr old guy, train everyday, run a contracting business and I'm on the tools so I basically beat myself into the ground everyday. I work, I train, and find a little time for my wife and hobbies in-between.

Been on "TRT" for almost a year, 5'11, 176lbs, 12% BF, 180mcg a week. I'm working with a good doctor, all biomarkers look good, cept my lipids and RBC are a little low. I run macrofactor, whoop, Garmin, eightsleep, basically track everything all day looking for ways to improve and eeek out more of myself. Kinda at the point where I'm thinking enough with the half measures, I just want to feel better and be able to keep manage my crazy work habits a bit easier.

So Primo, I'm in Canada and it sounds like NF is the way to go. I've read you can run low dose for as much as 6 months? My goal isn't to blow up, maybe add 10-15lbs lean over the next year. Mainly I'd just like to recover a bit better and have a bit more energy.

Sorry for the long winded post....open to any advice or listening to others experiences. Thanks!

True, but I'm working towards a goal. In the next 5-10 years I'll be financially set for the rest of my life. Then I'll work when I feel like it and do a lot of travelling. I partied pretty hard and travelled a lot from 14-30 years old. I'm more than ok with dedicating this part of my life to the grind. Hopefully my plans work out as expected and it wasn't all for not. Looking at my portfolio today....might need to work a few more years lol

What would a blast be? I'm on 180mcg test c weekly right now.

@BeMe welcome to the EVO family we are happy to have you here sharing.

We have other Canadians doing logs here you can read them
@BanditNOLIMIT
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-cycle-testosterone-masteron-hgh-log.103868/
@Likwid
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/likwid-2024-2025-diet-and-cycle-log.102254

You being on TRT means we need to discuss a lot of factors before you jump into a full cycle, but we really don't know much about you. I know your stats but thats about it. What we need is for you to share more with the EVO family, how?
Easy, start a NEW thread with your current TRT log journal, add nutrition training cardio sleep history and more and we will guide you into a full new cycle as a big EVO family, only way we can actually help. Its not time consuming, takes 15-20min of your time and well worth it.

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

What would a blast be? I'm on 180mcg test c weekly right now.

1st blast for most is just upping the test dose for 12 weeks. Most would say 500mg for 12 weeks - it will make a difference.
Make sure you use an AI with that dose.

 

[BeMe]

@BeMe welcome to the EVO family we are happy to have you here sharing.

We have other Canadians doing logs here you can read them
@BanditNOLIMIT
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...t-cycle-testosterone-masteron-hgh-log.103868/
@Likwid
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/likwid-2024-2025-diet-and-cycle-log.102254

You being on TRT means we need to discuss a lot of factors before you jump into a full cycle, but we really don't know much about you. I know your stats but thats about it. What we need is for you to share more with the EVO family, how?
Easy, start a NEW thread with your current TRT log journal, add nutrition training cardio sleep history and more and we will guide you into a full new cycle as a big EVO family, only way we can actually help. Its not time consuming, takes 15-20min of your time and well worth it.

HOW-TO LOG?

• To really guide you we need more info from you.
• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My TRT cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

Thanks, I have been reading some logs and I'll compile something over the weekend and post it. Appreciate the feedback

 

[BeMe]

1st blast for most is just upping the test dose for 12 weeks. Most would say 500mg for 12 weeks - it will make a difference.
Make sure you use an AI with that dose.

Man that sounds like a huge dose for me. My free test is up just over 900 on 180mcg. Trying to avoid as many side fx as possible. Maybe I can titrate up there over time if my bloods support it. Thanks for clearing that up for me tho

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks, I have been reading some logs and I'll compile something over the weekend and post it. Appreciate the feedback

You should start a log within 24 hours to make sure you are on top of things. @BeMe

 

[Allupfromhere]

Reverse it, no one's on there death bed saying fuck I wish I worked more

Agree

True, but I'm working towards a goal. In the next 5-10 years I'll be financially set for the rest of my life. Then I'll work when I feel like it and do a lot of travelling. I partied pretty hard and travelled a lot from 14-30 years old. I'm more than ok with dedicating this part of my life to the grind. Hopefully my plans work out as expected and it wasn't all for not. Looking at my portfolio today....might need to work a few more years lol

I hope in the next 5-10 everything your grinding and setting up for is still present in your life along with your health brother and i mean that in the most genuine way. You have an exciting journey ahead of you just take the time to still pay some attention to the important things. Sometime we dont realise how important some things or some people are until there no longer in our lives. Excited to follow your log bro get after it

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Man that sounds like a huge dose for me. My free test is up just over 900 on 180mcg. Trying to avoid as many side fx as possible. Maybe I can titrate up there over time if my bloods support it. Thanks for clearing that up for me tho

I was similar to you - was on TRT for a year and my first cycle was 300T for 12 weeks (40mg Var for last 6 weeks) and it made a difference.

 

[Mobster]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to say hi and maybe get a little advice. I've been cruising the forum for a little while now and decided to join up because it seems like a really positive and helpful atmosphere. I've already learned a lot just reading here.

Quick intro on me, I'm a 40yr old guy, train everyday, run a contracting business and I'm on the tools so I basically beat myself into the ground everyday. I work, I train, and find a little time for my wife and hobbies in-between.

Been on "TRT" for almost a year, 5'11, 176lbs, 12% BF, 180mcg a week. I'm working with a good doctor, all biomarkers look good, cept my lipids and RBC are a little low. I run macrofactor, whoop, Garmin, eightsleep, basically track everything all day looking for ways to improve and eeek out more of myself. Kinda at the point where I'm thinking enough with the half measures, I just want to feel better and be able to keep manage my crazy work habits a bit easier.

So Primo, I'm in Canada and it sounds like NF is the way to go. I've read you can run low dose for as much as 6 months? My goal isn't to blow up, maybe add 10-15lbs lean over the next year. Mainly I'd just like to recover a bit better and have a bit more energy.

Sorry for the long winded post....open to any advice or listening to others experiences. Thanks!

Nope. Mcg (microgram)is a 1000th of a mg (milligram) which is a 1000th of a gram. Some also confuse ml with mg

 

[Quadsweep]

you can blast with up to a gram of gear if you want. then go back to trt

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro i say hit the tren hot and heavy 10-12 weeks.
then go back to cruise

 

[JasonPriest]

Welcome to The Forum. It's good to have you on here.

Tell us more about you. Why don't you get up a log Journal. Let's get this going.

 

[Wootoom]

Hello. Fellow Canadian. It's good to see you. Would love to see your log as well.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Really many different ways you could do this.

You can blast and cruise off and on for 10 or 15 weeks if you want.

 

[2Thick]

Generally for blasting and cruising you want to go on for 10 or 12 weeks, and come off 15 weeks, but stay at your TRT dose

 

[e2]

One of the cool things about starting a log is we can get to know you

and answer your questions as you go.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

 

[Ulter]

please make sure you get your log going asap. we need that to give you the best tips

 

[chesty]

Can you get your log going? And post up your blood work.

That would go a long way.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Putting up your diet and your training and tracking it would be the best thing you can do for yourself.

 

[ceo]

Bros, we are waiting for your log.

You sound like an absolute Beast, 40 years old and training every day. You're no joke.

 

[BeMe]

Agree

I hope in the next 5-10 everything your grinding and setting up for is still present in your life along with your health brother and i mean that in the most genuine way. You have an exciting journey ahead of you just take the time to still pay some attention to the important things. Sometime we dont realise how important some things or some people are until there no longer in our lives. Excited to follow your log bro get after it

Thanks I appreciate the goodwill. Just got home from work the ram down some food and then I'm turning and burning back to work. Pretty serious state of emergency outside of Toronto here and I'm busy as hell. Looks like I'm going to be working all weekend too. Puts me closer to my retirement goals though LOL. Will definitely post a log as soon as I can.

 

[BeMe]

Nope. Mcg (microgram)is a 1000th of a mg (milligram) which is a 1000th of a gram. Some also confuse ml with mg

Oh ya good point. Been doing a lot of bloodwork lately and looking at a lot of micros. Duhh..

 

[BeMe]

I'll definitely get my log up ASAP. Shouldn't be hard because I have apps tracking everything and gearhead told me I can post screenshots with all the data. The only time consuming bit will be listing my sups. I'm going to try for Sunday but that just depends on how long I'm stuck working tonight and tomorrow and how quick I can get my office work done on Sunday morning.

 

[BeMe]

Bros, we are waiting for your log.

You sound like an absolute Beast, 40 years old and training every day. You're no joke.

Thanks, it sounds crazier than it is tho. I lift 5 days a week and then on my 2 off days I do 40min HIIT workouts on my rower. I'm sure by volume you guys do way more work than me. I'm just good for a regular guy. Not super humans like all of you. Hopefully I will join the club soon

 

[LevButlerov]

I'll definitely get my log up ASAP. Shouldn't be hard because I have apps tracking everything and gearhead told me I can post screenshots with all the data. The only time consuming bit will be listing my sups. I'm going to try for Sunday but that just depends on how long I'm stuck working tonight and tomorrow and how quick I can get my office work done on Sunday morning.

We get you, we are all waiting EVO family is here

 

[ballin2504]

Just blast for 12 weeks then go back to trt

This would be the best plan

 

[BeMe]

Thanks for all the advice and really friendly welcome. I can already tell that you guys have built an amazing community here. Pretty rare on the internet.

I'm posting my log now. I'll try my best to get it right and adjust per members suggestions. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks again!

 

[Noah Wixx]

Just blast for 12 weeks then go back to trt

Thats what I do

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Thanks for all the advice and really friendly welcome. I can already tell that you guys have built an amazing community here. Pretty rare on the internet.

I'm posting my log now. I'll try my best to get it right and adjust per members suggestions. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks again!

@BeMe saw your log bro about to approve it a few hours

 

[BeMe]

Seems like there's 2 streams of thought.

Blast

Or

Titrate up to a peak mid cycle then taper back off.

I'm hoping to go the safest route with minimal side FX. I'm reading that primo is relatively safe though.

So what would a blast look like in my situation? Would I start at around 200mg to match my test and raise both to a bit each week til I hit like 3-500?

I have my log up and all my info is there if you're wondering.

 

[LevButlerov]

Seems like there's 2 streams of thought.

Blast

Or

Titrate up to a peak mid cycle then taper back off.

I'm hoping to go the safest route with minimal side FX. I'm reading that primo is relatively safe though.

So what would a blast look like in my situation? Would I start at around 200mg to match my test and raise both to a bit each week til I hit like 3-500?

I have my log up and all my info is there if you're wondering.

@BeMe lets talk about this in your log more, but right now I think blasting is fine for you, you look really GOOD!
And what I mean is around 300mgs testosterone and 200mgs primobolan, not anything heavy.

 

[LevButlerov]

@BeMe lets talk about this in your log more, but right now I think blasting is fine for you, you look really GOOD!
And what I mean is around 300mgs testosterone and 200mgs primobolan, not anything heavy.

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/