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Yea at 1.5mg/week for me I have to force myself to eat and I’m usually always hungry.
Ive been interested in combining retatrutide with slu pp 332 for contest prep or far loae in general see if i can avoid clen at all costs and come in looking juat as good.
I can't tolerate clen - the stimulant effects are just too much. Retatrutide has been a game changer. You can be on the most savage cut but live normally with no hunger pangs, sleep issues etc.
That sounds like a dream come true, clen scares the hell out of me just like tren does, the heart takes a beating the way it is with what we do, if i can exclude a compound known to cause a ton of damage with the heart over time, and all the bad sides that is a win for me if i cam avoid it.
Slu-pp-332 supposed to be really good. I haven’t tried it but it’s exercise in a bottle which seems like it would be fantastic for a cut.
Clen is the worst i was grinding my teeth and sweating my balls off on just 60mcg a day. I tried it for a week, never again.
Yeah see not only that the rpaid heart beat id be afraid it would be beating out if rhymed and cause a stroke or heart attack or afib, i want nothing to do with that nasty stuff, that is why i thought a glp1 with slu pp engery up prime fat burning while in a cut, plus ovwr all good sense of well being, 16 weeks with that or with gw added would be awesome.
How about protein intake and size? have you worked on muscle retention doing this? @Snowbogan
It’s been a challenge eating my protein targets with no appetite. This is my first real cut on reta so it’s a work in progress. Seem to be retaining strength and size.
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Yea I have a slightly abnormal heartbeat it gets out of rhythm from time to time then pops right back. I’ve had incident monitors, ultrasound of heart, etc everything all good but it’s annoying when it does go out of rhythm which is why stuff like clen is off the table.
Clenbuterol is not good for the heart, but so are many stims to be fair.
That’s great to hear
Yea I try to manage my caffeine but it’s tough. I 100% stopped all preworkout though I just do coffee and some diet soda.
Yeah man that is a super smart move, protecting the heart is always my number one priority
i have some concerns using these types of anti diabetes drugs for weight loss
1. when you stop using them boomerang effect is likely
2. the way they work by mimicking certain pathways including secreting insulin to blunt appetite isn't a good thing and i can argue counter productive
3. the long term effects it can have on the gut, pancreas, and thyroid
are they better then clen? when it comes to the heart yes although they still can cause a rise in heart rate. clen is a shitty drug and i've never seen more then 5-10% be happy with it. but they do have their own risks as well. seems like overall the iron clad benefit is the way they satiate you where you don't feel hungry and the mere sit of food makes you sick. if thats the case then just will power and discipline would seem to be a natural and healthier way to fix that issue, and not keeping junk in your house
i wouldn't run these compounds for a long period.
1. when you stop using them boomerang effect is likely
2. the way they work by mimicking certain pathways including secreting insulin to blunt appetite isn't a good thing and i can argue counter productive
3. the long term effects it can have on the gut, pancreas, and thyroid
are they better then clen? when it comes to the heart yes although they still can cause a rise in heart rate. clen is a shitty drug and i've never seen more then 5-10% be happy with it. but they do have their own risks as well. seems like overall the iron clad benefit is the way they satiate you where you don't feel hungry and the mere sit of food makes you sick. if thats the case then just will power and discipline would seem to be a natural and healthier way to fix that issue, and not keeping junk in your house
i wouldn't run these compounds for a long period.
If u have time look into slu pp 332 it can change the way people prep for shows, its still fairly new, it is a fascinating compound, maybe podcast episode one day ?
from what i have seen with it. seems very close to sr9009If u have time look into slu pp 332 it can change the way people prep for shows, its still fairly new, it is a fascinating compound, maybe podcast episode one day ?
This is what intrigued me about it.
agonist for the estrogen-related receptor (ERR
Other than the fact it boosts cognitive function and energy production along with a mlte positive wellbeing along with increased metabolism and fat loss.
I never got the energy boost from sr9009, i thought when i got into my cut, combine gw with slu pp 332 and run a log and see if i geg good results with it, for competing if i cam use those instead if clen and other harsh methods, id feel more comfortable. I have a sense of dred thinking about diuretics and clen.
I really like GW, i'm still using the ones i got in my log.
but i don't use it consistently. i will use it off and on and run it ahead of a workout, so more for endurance and not fat loss.
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