Test-tren-EQ-Dbol

[AntonG]

Hi guys,

I would like your opinion on my plan for the next cycle. My goal is to bulk but possibly rather lean(er).
I have done several test E + Tren E cycles (500mg Test E + 400mg Tren E weekly for 12 weeks the last one) and I tolerate Tren E quite well without significant side effects (my blood work has always been alright).

My goal now is to try some additions to it:

12 weeks
Test E - 2x250mg week (all 12 weeks)
Tren E- 2x200mg week (all 12 weeks)
Dbol - 30mg ed (first 4-5 weeks)
EQ - 300 mg week after the Dbol (6-8 weeks)
+arimidex preventively 0.5mg eod

I’d be happy for any input, I am quite happy with the tren so I would prefer to keep that. I am trying to limit orals to save my liver but I get bloodwork every 3 months and every time all was totally ok.

thanks in advance

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hi guys,

I would like your opinion on my plan for the next cycle. My goal is to bulk but possibly rather lean(er).
I have done several test E + Tren E cycles (500mg Test E + 400mg Tren E weekly for 12 weeks the last one) and I tolerate Tren E quite well without significant side effects (my blood work has always been alright).

My goal now is to try some additions to it:

12 weeks
Test E - 2x250mg week (all 12 weeks)
Tren E- 2x200mg week (all 12 weeks)
Dbol - 30mg ed (first 4-5 weeks)
EQ - 300 mg week after the Dbol (6-8 weeks)
+arimidex preventively 0.5mg eod

I’d be happy for any input, I am quite happy with the tren so I would prefer to keep that. I am trying to limit orals to save my liver but I get bloodwork every 3 months and every time all was totally ok.

thanks in advance

@AntonG welcome to the big evolutionary.org family bro.

Your cycle seems pretty big but you have experience. I would make changes to it for sure, using tbol instead of dbol, adding organ liver support n2guard and adding more ancillaries.

Though to be fair, it would be all guess work to tell you anything since we dont know much about you at all.
Can you please share in a NEW thread your LOG journal diary with your diet training cardio sleep and supps.
We can see what you do now and really talk about your cycle form there, please include bodyfat % and details.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

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[stevesmi]

you have experience with tren so you know how you react to it
and you ran test with it so you know

from there i would add a mild steroid to it. dbol isn't it, it has too many estrogenic and androgenic sides. so i would rather you do anavar or tbol

 

[s.gentz]

Hi guys,

I would like your opinion on my plan for the next cycle. My goal is to bulk but possibly rather lean(er).
I have done several test E + Tren E cycles (500mg Test E + 400mg Tren E weekly for 12 weeks the last one) and I tolerate Tren E quite well without significant side effects (my blood work has always been alright).

My goal now is to try some additions to it:

12 weeks
Test E - 2x250mg week (all 12 weeks)
Tren E- 2x200mg week (all 12 weeks)
Dbol - 30mg ed (first 4-5 weeks)
EQ - 300 mg week after the Dbol (6-8 weeks)
+arimidex preventively 0.5mg eod

I’d be happy for any input, I am quite happy with the tren so I would prefer to keep that. I am trying to limit orals to save my liver but I get bloodwork every 3 months and every time all was totally ok.

thanks in advance

I don't get adding in EQ for that duration? It makes no sense. EQ needs to be ran longer. You'd be better off with DHB.

 

[RoidRage69]

I would drop the dbol and run the EQ the entire cycle length. I would also add anavar in place of dbol. If you really want to kick into high gear add in HGH daily with the cycle.

 

[AntonG]

Thanks for the advice.
I have always ran either testo only or testo and tren so I am grateful for the corrections

To make it clear, I found some cycles online that included EQ and DBol so I just slightly adjusted it (as you see in my initial post)

Also any advice on the dosage/ratio between test and tren?

 

[stevesmi]

EQ is a helluva steroid and its my favorite steroid overall and perfect for those who want slow and quality gains who are super active like i am and i like to do things like bicycling, swimming, yoga, other cardio etc and not so weight training focused . its actually very underrated because people think its a horse steroid or think it does this or that when it doesn't. having said that but i would not bother using it with tren in your situation. with EQ i like to add a light androgen with it, something like test at 125mgs a week and let the EQ roll at 400-500mgs.

just no need to add it if you are using lots of test and tren together.

 

[RoidRage69]

EQ is a helluva steroid and its my favorite steroid overall and perfect for those who want slow and quality gains who are super active like i am and i like to do things like bicycling, swimming, yoga, other cardio etc and not so weight training focused . its actually very underrated because people think its a horse steroid or think it does this or that when it doesn't. having said that but i would not bother using it with tren in your situation. with EQ i like to add a light androgen with it, something like test at 125mgs a week and let the EQ roll at 400-500mgs.

just no need to add it if you are using lots of test and tren together.

Now you’re making me wonder if I should change my dosage on my cycle. I am planning on:
200mg Masteron
300mg Test
300mg EQ
Should I lower test to 200 and up EQ to 400? Going 16 weeks on the cycle.

 

[dylangemelli]

the eq duration is pointless and senseless.. its a very long ester and it needs to be ran 12 weeks.. dbol should not go over 4 weeks.. i dont like the amount of test and tren used either.. to get the BEST results (that means low side effects and more keepable gains with easier recovery and less strain on your body) you would be looking at test and tren at around 300 each, dbol at 30 mg at 4 weeks for the dbol and eq at 500-600 mg per week... you really do not need this much on a tren cycle and i would consider dropping the dbol out or using the sarm s23 as opposed to it...

 

[AntonG]

the eq duration is pointless and senseless.. its a very long ester and it needs to be ran 12 weeks.. dbol should not go over 4 weeks.. i dont like the amount of test and tren used either.. to get the BEST results (that means low side effects and more keepable gains with easier recovery and less strain on your body) you would be looking at test and tren at around 300 each, dbol at 30 mg at 4 weeks for the dbol and eq at 500-600 mg per week... you really do not need this much on a tren cycle and i would consider dropping the dbol out or using the sarm s23 as opposed to it...

Thank you, I surely want to do the tren and testo as I have before (I did not have any significant side effects or other issues with it), is there anything you would recommend to add?

 

[dylangemelli]

Test and tren with s23 would be a mean stack and you would not only get more out of it but also avoid so many of the other sides with eq and dbol

 

[ceo]

bros i'm using EQ right now and week 2 already seeing the benefits
yeah it takes a while but depends on dosage

 

[chesty]

make sure you put up a log Journal so we can get to know you
let's be honest we can post up our experiences but it may not be the best for you

 

[ROIDDERS]

can we see a log Journal
we know nothing about you besides what you wrote on your first post

 

[Ulter]

get your pictures up and blur out your face or crop it out
you can stay Anonymous that way check out the other logs and how we help people daily on here

 

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[e2]

please put up a log it will really help us help you
also when it comes to dosing it's dependent on how you react to these individual steroids

 

[2Thick]

you can always adjust your doses as you go along
you can even completely drop a steroid if it's not working well for you

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

it's important to do a log Journal
check out what the other guys and gals on here have put up and how they've improved and transformed their bodies

 

[MONSTRO]

monstros says to please put up a log
the more pictures you put up the better

 

[s.gentz]

bros i'm using EQ right now and week 2 already seeing the benefits
yeah it takes a while but depends on dosage

Where’s your log?

 

[RoidRage69]

Where’s your log?

I think they don’t post logs because they don’t want the competition knowing their secrets.

 

[ballin2504]

I wouldn’t use the eq. Save it for another cycle

 

[Noah Wixx]

Guys got it covered

 

[25homes]

drop the EQ completely if you arent running it min of 12 weeks pref 15 weeks. No point in EQ for 4-6 weeks def a waste

 

[Mobster]

Lean bulk - no dbol